7 weeks into Diet, not much happening

[kevthekid]

why not try that? It's a middle ground approach.

33 grams of carbs on non training days Kev? Unless doing a show, why do this???

Only reason I'm doing it is because I'm trying to get to 7-8% for summer and trying to do it in 8 weeks. If I had more time say 12-16 weeks I would take a much different and slower approach.

[kevthekid]

So if i was operating on the anabolic diet for 7-8 weeks in a pretty decent defecit of 600 cals or so, can i just revert to a 40/40/20 today as long as calories remain constant?

You don't need an anabolic diet or any of that bullshit. Dieting is very simple to me now that I have a good prep coach. You cycle carbs based on the days you train and start of with cardio and slowly add in more every week.

[Competitor 9]

You don't need an anabolic diet or any of that bullshit. Dieting is very simple to me now that I have a good prep coach. You cycle carbs based on the days you train and start of with cardio and slowly add in more every week.

That's pretty much it.

[Competitor 9]

Is that your stage condition, achieved through carb cycling, etc?

Yep befire I fucked it all up over carbing and not pulling enough water 196 there. I'm not going to bs you and say I was stupid shredded in all honestly I need 2 or 3 more weeks to come in ready. But based off my starting point It was pretty amazing what I was able to do in 12 weeks

[Thong Maniac]

U gonna try and maintain that level of conditioning  now ^

[Rami]

high fat?

I wonder why it's not working

[cephissus]

Yep befire I fucked it all up over carbing and not pulling enough water 196 there. I'm not going to bs you and say I was stupid shredded in all honestly I need 2 or 3 more weeks to come in ready. But based off my starting point It was pretty amazing what I was able to do in 12 weeks

Congrats, that is an impressive change.

- could you maintain this condition permanently?
- do you NEED to carb cycle to get in this condition?
- how many cals daily?

[Competitor 9]

Congrats, that is an impressive change.

- could you maintain this condition permanently?
- do you NEED to carb cycle to get in this condition?
- how many cals daily?

Could I sure. Could you and be productive person no. I couldn't. I'll stay leaner some where in-between those two pics. I'm 35lbs heavier now.  I was 217 in that fat pic. I'm 230 now.

Yes carb cycling was and is very important

I was on 2000ish but would carb cycle between 2200 to 1800 

[Simple Simon]

I look like this year round and I have no idea what carb cycling means.

[Competitor 9]

I look like this year round and I have no idea what carb cycling means.

You look great for a 160lb mpd guy.   

[Grape Ape]

Cliff's notes for those who don't want to read it all:

TM: I'm having trouble with my diet

Navy Mike "Oh, I'll post some pics of myself again"

[Thong Maniac]

Cliff's notes for those who don't want to read it all:

TM: I'm having trouble with my diet

Navy Mike "Oh, I'll post some pics of myself again"

ROFl!

Ok posters so i started on the low fat model, but get this
Today ive had

1 cup oats and 1 tablespoon fish oil.

Already that puts me at 27g fat. My limit is like 48 for the day to stay around 20% of macros.
Worried that doesnt leave much for heart healthy fats left.

[Simple Simon]

You look great for a 160lb mpd guy.   

Wait until you are my age, you will look like the fucking Michelin man   

[wes]

DON`T CHEAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111111111

[Thong Maniac]

Wtf, this is my thread,,,why are shirtless muscle men pics winding up in here?

Again, for low fat diet gurus, please see my last post...i am confused

[Grape Ape]

Wtf, this is my thread,,,why are shirtless muscle men pics winding up in here?

Again, for low fat diet gurus, please see my last post...i am confused

Less calories, more exercise.

Confusion over.

[thegamechanger]

maybe you can hire chris aceto

[wes]

ROFl!

Ok posters so i started on the low fat model, but get this
Today ive had

1 cup oats and 1 tablespoon fish oil.

Already that puts me at 27g fat. My limit is like 48 for the day to stay around 20% of macros.
Worried that doesnt leave much for heart healthy fats left.

Yo boss,please list a typical days meal plan for you so that we get a clearer picture of what in hell you`re doing.


TIA

[Thong Maniac]

Yo boss,please list a typical days meal plan for you so that we get a clearer picture of what in hell you`re doing.


TIA

Well just started on low fat diet around 1900-2000 cals, 40/40/20
Havnt gotten it all sorted out but this is typical for me

1 Cup oats
1 table spoon fish oil

Tilapia or chicken
1 Cup brown rice
Greens

1-2 Quest bar

1 cup oats or gluten free brown rice cereal with a protein shake or egg whites

Dinner of chicken or fish sometimes shrimp
Quinoa, rice, or sweet potato
Greens


Thats basically it. Quests are just there since i am traveling alot and need something quick and fairly clean
So with oats, quest, chicken/fish and fish oil, im already breaking 50g of fat so i dunno how to keep it lower than that. Even a cup of oats has fat in it

[Simple Simon]

Well just started on low fat diet around 1900-2000 cals, 40/40/20
Havnt gotten it all sorted out but this is typical for me

1 Cup oats
1 table spoon fish oil

Tilapia or chicken
1 Cup brown rice
Greens

1-2 Quest bar

1 cup oats or gluten free brown rice cereal with a protein shake or egg whites

Dinner of chicken or fish sometimes shrimp
Quinoa, rice, or sweet potato
Greens


Thats basically it. Quests are just there since i am traveling alot and need something quick and fairly clean
So with oats, quest, chicken/fish and fish oil, im already breaking 50g of fat so i dunno how to keep it lower than that. Even a cup of oats has fat in it

just eat some food.

[wes]

Well just started on low fat diet around 1900-2000 cals, 40/40/20
Havnt gotten it all sorted out but this is typical for me

1 Cup oats
1 table spoon fish oil

Tilapia or chicken
1 Cup brown rice
Greens

1-2 Quest bar

1 cup oats or gluten free brown rice cereal with a protein shake or egg whites

Dinner of chicken or fish sometimes shrimp
Quinoa, rice, or sweet potato
Greens


Thats basically it. Quests are just there since i am traveling alot and need something quick and fairly clean
So with oats, quest, chicken/fish and fish oil, im already breaking 50g of fat so i dunno how to keep it lower than that. Even a cup of oats has fat in it

[Thong Maniac]

Whats wrong bro? Looks like fairly standard cutting diet? Oh forgot to mention whey with the oats for breakfast

[The Abdominal Snoman]

You will almost never find anyone who does "the diet"  but doesn't do cardio. Walk on the treadmill just to look at bitch's...Other than that, blow off the cardio...Too many people have the all or nothing attitude. Break your year up in 2. 6 months eat whatever you want and train heavy and 6 months of bringing your diet in line. Absolute zero need for cardio for fat burning...I remember seeing Bob Chicks video of him walking at 3mph on a 10 incline for 30 mins. lol At the end of the 30 mins he just burnt up the amount of calories that equal a small apple...So silly...

[cephissus]

Could I sure. Could you and be productive person no. I couldn't. I'll stay leaner some where in-between those two pics. I'm 35lbs heavier now.  I was 217 in that fat pic. I'm 230 now.

Yes carb cycling was and is very important

I was on 2000ish but would carb cycle between 2200 to 1800  

Thanks very much for the response.  It showed me exactly what I was hoping to learn.

I would say I'm roughly the same leanness as you (in those pictures) on 2200-2400 cals a day, but struggling hard with retaining my sanity.

I think I'm making progress, as i try to find ways to improve my mental health without sacrificing leanness.  I think i should be able to do it, as im naturally lean and small, but its reassuring to hear that others struggle at this level as well.

[HTexan]

You will almost never find anyone who does "the diet"  but doesn't do cardio. Walk on the treadmill just to look at bitch's...Other than that, blow off the cardio...Too many people have the all or nothing attitude. Break your year up in 2. 6 months eat whatever you want and train heavy and 6 months of bringing your diet in line. Absolute zero need for cardio for fat burning...I remember seeing Bob Chicks video of him walking at 3mph on a 10 incline for 30 mins. lol At the end of the 30 mins he just burnt up the amount of calories that equal a small apple...So silly...

cardio does have other benefits, but yes, it isn't the be all end all some people believe it is.