New Ramy PIc

[Ronnie Rep]

If that is to scale, Ramy makes Phil look like a teenager compared to a grown man in his 35-40's

Maybe so but Ramy needs more detail and thickness in his back. It's quality not quantity. Phil is destroying him in that pic.

[Royalty]

There is no point is posting pics from 2013 or 2014.

It is now 2015, and Ramy looks to have made some serious improvements.

[Bevo]

Besides doing 4 plates on the hammer strength does Phil ever dead lift or squat free weights?

[Parker]

What about this pic? 

Ramy has him on abs

[SF1900]

Ramy has him on abs

And legs, lats, and arms.

[old-school-lifter]

Heath never matched his first Olympia showing

Phil had regressed eveyr year since 2011
and 2015 he will look his worst ever with a ruined palumboism midsection and he will still be awarded the O title so long as he keeps sucking off manion and weinberger

[Parker]

And legs, lats, and arms.

Phil's legs are a tad more detailed. Ramy's are bigger.
Phil's are far more detailed and split, Ramy's are bigger. In fact Kai's arms are bigger than Phil's. Phil never had the biggest arms, they were just highly detailed with full triceps. Lat's...that goes to Ramy

[Pet shop boys]

Bodybuilding isn't boxing. Boxing you get other people to speak/promote you. Don King, etc.

IFBB who's gonna talk in the media for you? DJ hogged the mic on him for his own glory, who you gonna get? Bob Chick?? lol

If Ramy wants to be more popular and marketable he needs to learn to speak fluent English. That's business. No ifs or buts.

Its true, its on Ramy if he's too lazy/stupid to learn to speak English. He was asked at the Arnold if he met Arnold.. he reply was "Yes" but looked confused. He was asked the same follow up question, "did Arnold Schwarzenegger meet you with?" then he understands and shakes his head and says "no", looking like a dipshit.

Crack a book instead of an egg today Rami.

Bodybuilding/IFBB do not have a place in the "media" ...

all you get is internet articles/videos clips/blogs and magazines and even the current champs have ghost writers anyways"

Ramy can do well by smiling in a protein jar photo with a "This is what I take" caption .... no brainer lol .



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[Bevo]

Phil's legs are a tad more detailed. Ramy's are bigger.
Phil's are far more detailed and split, Ramy's are bigger. In fact Kai's arms are bigger than Phil's. Phil never had the biggest arms, they were just highly detailed with full triceps. Lat's...that goes to Ramy

Ramy has better structure and flow, Phil's physique has looked odd for some time. Weird looking torso and abs, structure isn't so good

[Parker]

Ramy has better structure and flow, Phil's physique has looked odd for some time. Weird looking torso and abs, structure isn't so good

I also think it's the way he poses as well.

[The Ugly]

This far in and Ramy still can't sculpt his back. Probably Nasser all over.

[Sherief Shalaby]

But why does he need to speak English to beat Philsulin ?


Julio Cesar Chavez being interviewed after winning a world class tittle early 90's : commentator - " when are you learning English?

Chavez (in Spanish) "my priority is to be a boxing champion .... you can learn Spanish if you're than interested in talking with me, but if you want to box that we can do anytime" .






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yes if ramy comes in a great condition he will beat phil at the olympia because he will be clearly better even with his zero english..

but i mean to be successful and continue on the top he must have a big fan base and he will not achieve this without speaking at least "ok english" and to show confidence while speaking... without a big fan base he will not achieve what his abilities can take him to..

imagine if arnold came from austria and didnt learn english!!.. imo arnold's charisma played the main role behind his exceptional success,.. may be more than his great physique..

[local hero]

Maybe so but Ramy needs more detail and thickness in his back. It's quality not quantity. Phil is destroying him in that pic.

Your eyesight must be destroyed if you think phill is dominating that shot...

[Papper]

Your eyesight must be destroyed if you think phill is dominating that shot...

Their brains are working overtime trying to justify why schrimp is better there

Its fairly obvious. Starting to sound like people defending branch warren winning because he has "great conditioning" and that cancels out shape, mass, symmetry etc haha

[Kwon_2]

yes if ramy comes in a great condition he will beat phil at the olympia because he will be clearly better even with his zero english..

but i mean to be successful and continue on the top he must have a big fan base and he will not achieve this without speaking at least "ok english" and to show confidence while speaking... without a big fan base he will not achieve what his abilities can take him to..

imagine if arnold came from austria and didnt learn english!!.. imo arnold's charisma played the main role behind his exceptional success,.. may be more than his great physique..

Diversity is never a bad thing. Neither is choice. Option to pick your preferences? Or poisons for that matter...

Frankly, I find most any and all discussions around this topic to be pretty...enigmatic.

People who are firmly on either side of the fence are firmly in the "sounds too pretentious to pay heed to" camp.

This is too trivial a thing to feel strongly about one way or another...

[Pet shop boys]

I personally could care less if he's holding a tiny bit more water. His physique is built better/flows better in combination with his massive size then the rest.

QFT




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[Parker]

Their brains are working overtime trying to justify why schrimp is better there

Its fairly obvious. Starting to sound like people defending branch warren winning because he has "great conditioning" and that cancels out shape, mass, symmetry etc haha

Nobody can justify Branch winning. Him winning anything or placing high  is a mystery that no one can explain.

[Ronnie Rep]

Nobody can justify Branch winning. Him winning anything or placing high  is a mystery that no one can explain.

Absolutely, comparing Phil and Branch is a joke.

[SF1900]

Phil had regressed eveyr year since 2011
and 2015 he will look his worst ever with a ruined palumboism midsection and he will still be awarded the O title so long as he keeps sucking off manion and weinberger

Gee, what a horrible Mr. Olympia when compared to the other Mr. O winners. Look at 2014. 

[Royal Lion]

yes if ramy comes in a great condition he will beat phil at the olympia because he will be clearly better even with his zero english..

but i mean to be successful and continue on the top he must have a big fan base and he will not achieve this without speaking at least "ok english" and to show confidence while speaking... without a big fan base he will not achieve what his abilities can take him to..

imagine if arnold came from austria and didnt learn english!!.. imo arnold's charisma played the main role behind his exceptional success,.. may be more than his great physique..

I agree that speaking English will help him gain popularity. Though his fan base already seems pretty solid and seems to be increasing. He has a good presence on Instagram and Facebook which I think is equally, if not more, important than speaking English in this day and age.

[SF1900]

Phil's legs are a tad more detailed. Ramy's are bigger.
Phil's are far more detailed and split, Ramy's are bigger. In fact Kai's arms are bigger than Phil's. Phil never had the biggest arms, they were just highly detailed with full triceps. Lat's...that goes to Ramy

In that picture, Ramy is clearly destroying phil.

I dont see Phils arms as more detailed than Ramys in that picture. Its comparable.  Ramy has an X frame, better lats, chest looks better. In that picture, he looks way more complete (from the front) than Ramy.

[Parker]

In that picture, Ramy is clearly destroying phil.

I dont see Phils arms as more detailed than Ramys in that picture. Its comparable.  Ramy has an X frame, better lats, chest looks better. In that picture, he looks way more complete (from the front) than Ramy.

Look at the detailed, separated split between bis and tris that Phil has, and compared that to Ramy. Also look at the splits in his bicep on that one side. Ramy's arms are bigger, yet he doesn't have that separation



Phil has a narrow structure, lats, shoulders, etc. what separates him from another narrow guy, Flex Wheeler, is that Flex had a smaller waist and a more dramatic taper when doing the Front Double biceps. This is a pose where Phil is very beatable in.

[Royalty]

Look at the detailed, separated split between bis and tris that Phil has, and compared that to Ramy. Also look at the splits in his bicep on that one side. Ramy's arms are bigger, yet he doesn't have that separation



Phil has a narrow structure, lats, shoulders, etc. what separates him from another narrow guy, Flex Wheeler, is that Flex had a smaller waist and a more dramatic taper when doing the Front Double biceps. This is a pose where Phil is very beatable in.

It good that this Phil/Ramy debate is taking place. It shows that there is still something to look foward to (at the Olympia in the fall). Bodybuilding boards used to be like this 10-12 years ago.

[closeline]

Nee pics

http://www.bodybuilding-magazin.de/bodybuilding-artikel/imageviewer.php?id=47627&f_id=12051


I have to admit ...he is huge

[Parker]

It good that this Phil/Ramy debate is taking place. It shows that there is still something to look foward to (at the Olympia in the fall). Bodybuilding boards used to be like this 10-12 years ago.

Personally, I am more impressed with how Simeon Panda and Ulisses stacked up to Kai. Those guys made modern day IFBB Pros look terrible. Those guys are what bbing is truly about.