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[Simple Simon]

just finished cardio

I think I look like a God compared to you skinbag

I believe you think you do.

I dont do cardio in the gym, I have a life.

all pics you posted dumbass

[Disgusted]

At the time I heard about Gaspari's cycle I was training at Manion's gym and Art Bedway's gym. The info came from an IFBB judge so I'm sure it was credible. I've only gone as high as 2 amps per week with Para no sides at all was doing seated db presses at the time with 120 for 10 reps.

[Simple Simon]

At the time I heard about Gaspari's cycle I was training at Manion's gym and Art Bedway's gym. The info came from an IFBB judge so I'm sure it was credible. I've only gone as high as 2 amps per week with Para no sides at all was doing seated db presses at the time with 120 for 10 reps.

Why would the word of an IFBB judge be more credible than anyone else?

[SF1900]

just finished cardio

I think I look like a God compared to you skinbag

You have more pics of myself than I do. Obsessed?

Very narrow.

[BigRo]

Cannot believe I am criticized by a fat dude who never had abs, a boy toy who sells his ass to make ends meet and a bipolar skinbag  

I cant believe you look like a tiny titty megadosing anabolics, gh and slin.

[Disgusted]

Why would the word of an IFBB judge be more credible than anyone else?

Because he knew Rich personally. Look bud your good for a funny post here and there but when it comes knowledge and credible info your mostly a shit talker and not relevant.

[Simple Simon]

Because he knew Rich personally. Look bud your good for a funny post here and there but when it comes knowledge and credible info your mostly a shit talker and not relevant.

Then you should have written a personal friend of Richs, I would then have written, why would a personal friend of a pro bodybuilder be spreading gossip about his drug regime.

Rich Gaspari knows what Rich Gaspari took, no one else.

Stop whining you pussy.

[Disgusted]

Then you should have written a personal friend of Richs, I would then have written, why would a personal friend of a pro bodybuilder be spreading gossip about his drug regime.

Rich Gaspari knows what Rich Gaspari took, no one else.

Stop whining you pussy.

ok

[Van_Bilderass]

And you are basing all this on what?

So he should get less sides at 50 as well if your argument holds water?

I'm basing it on logic and observation. An old body already exposed to say 3 decades of
androgens wont respond like a teen body never exposed to exogenous androgens. Many
reminiscing on the old days don't take all this into account. It's like an old junkie saying
drug X used to be so much better 3 decades ago... no shit, they had fresh brains back then!

I wasn't saying higher dosages never cause more sides, they often do. I'm just tired
of all these posters crying about how they couldn't imagine doing X dosage because they
are already getting crazy sides and exploding out of their skin on a small dose. It isn't always the
case, the body can adapt, some sides can disappear or change (like with insomnia or acne for example) or new ones can appear instead. You don't know if you can handle until you try to up the dosage over time.

People attribute some almost magical characteristics to some famous products, like the Negma Parabolan. Either it was a different drug compared to what can be produced to today, or they attached some magic to the steroid molecule... I like to think that there's some other explanation. But let's say it's true, the tren used to be better, maybe 3-4 times better like bigmc says. Then in reality guys are doing less tren today compared to then because it's so much weaker today.

Just remembered, Ric Drasin said "back then" guys were doing 1-2cc of EQ a week (50-100mg) and "exploding".
Today guys are often doing 1 gram, 20 times more!!! And todays EQ has often been analyzed by government labs, verified to be boldenone. What the fuck is going on? Why was it stronger back then? Or was it really?

I do agree that you don't need much to get results. I got nice results from just 10mg of dbol when starting out. There obviously a point of diminishing returns and you have to increase dosage several fold to get even a small percentage of extra gains. That's the reason for mega dosing, the body adapts quickly to any drug or training stressor.

[Simple Simon]

I'm basing it on logic and observation. An old body already exposed to say 3 decades of
androgens wont respond like a teen body never exposed to exogenous androgens. Many
reminiscing on the old days don't take all this into account. It's like an old junkie saying
drug X used to be so much better 3 decades ago... no shit, they had fresh brains back then!

I wasn't saying higher dosages never cause more sides, they often do. I'm just tired
of all these posters crying about how they couldn't imagine doing X dosage because they
are already getting crazy sides and exploding out of their skin on a small dose. It isn't always the
case, the body can adapt, some sides can disappear or change (like with insomnia or acne for example) or new ones can appear instead. You don't know if you can handle until you try to up the dosage over time.

People attribute some almost magical characteristics to some famous products, like the Negma Parabolan. Either it was a different drug compared to what can be produced to today, or they attached some magic to the steroid molecule... I like to think that there's some other explanation. But let's say it's true, the tren used to be better, maybe 3-4 times better like bigmc says. Then in reality guys are doing less tren today compared to then because it's so much weaker today.

Just remembered, Ric Drasin said "back then" guys were doing 1-2cc of EQ a week (50-100mg) and "exploding".
Today guys are often doing 1 gram, 20 times more!!! And todays EQ has often been analyzed by government labs, verified to be boldenone. What the fuck is going on? Why was it stronger back then? Or was it really?

I do agree that you don't need much to get results. I got nice results from just 10mg of dbol when starting out. There obviously a point of diminishing returns and you have to increase dosage several fold to get even a small percentage of extra gains. That's the reason for mega dosing, the body adapts quickly to any drug or training stressor.

Side effects are your body telling you its too much.

Upping the dose to try and eliminate the sides is tantamount to idiocy.

[Van_Bilderass]

Side effects are your body telling you its too much.

Upping the dose to try and eliminate the sides is tantamount to idiocy.

Sure. Maybe. It depends.

Many drugs for common illnesses have side effects, explicitly listed as transient, as
your body acclimates to the drug. A young body may explode with severe acne just
from the normal start of sex hormone production.

An HRT patient may commonly get too high RBC and hemoglobin or even iron levels just
from a low test supplement.

A bodybuilder will have to put up with some sides, can't get around it completely, the body WILL say it's "too much", like your body is telling you right now with the tren. How much
you are willing to put up with is up to you and what you want to achieve.

Low back pumps
Tiredness
Increased sweating
Acne
Insomnia
Hypersomnia
Mood swings
Carpal tunnel syndrome
Unhealthy RBC's
Water retention

... normal reactions to even modest doses

[ritch]

Genetics.
Some have them, some don't.

Guess who dosen't???

[BigRo]

Not many picture updates today, I am dissapoint.

[_aj_]

Not many picture updates today, I am dissapoint.

Maybe you should post a few and give us your contest prep...

[Simple Simon]

Not many picture updates today, I am dissapoint.

Heres one from next week

[BigRo]

Maybe you should post a few and give us your contest prep...

NPC Southern States Teen Champion 2002 at 19 years old.

gear: 5 days of halotestin and 2 lasix

[geeizback]

that pic blows sev out of the water all day

highest I went when using years back was 1ml of Sust, 1ml tren ace, 1 ml mast prop M/W/F and 50mg of Naposim daily. it got pretty uncomfortable being honest but the strength and body transformation was dangerously good.

just not for me now at my age. although I am toying with doing 500mg of test with some Var for 12 weeks early next year. still undecided though

[Cleanest Natural]

Haha yes..

Love the "look how little I took and how much better I looked stories"

[mazrim]

NPC Southern States Teen Champion 2002 at 19 years old.

gear: 5 days of halotestin and 2 lasix

You could have been right up there battling it out with Doug Miller....

[nattybay]

hygetropin and geno pen.. no difference I tell you

Because you used both fake

[nattybay]

we are not thesame size.. pics can be deceiving. For example I am almost 6' at 200lbs and thin legs while Simone is a 5'7" manlet

In real life he would be much shorter, smaller and quieter

Simone panda has superior bodybuilding genetics

With small joints and all black guy genetics. He will look bigger with even very little muscle mass addition.


Cleanest natural is with bug joints and tall
He needs more drugs, more food, more training, more rest to fill up his frame and look just as good as someone panda. But when these two lads stand next to each other with Mr Cleanest natural filled out, he blows away simiome panda

[Simple Simon]

Simone panda has superior bodybuilding genetics

With small joints and all black guy genetics. He will look bigger with even very little muscle mass addition.


Cleanest natural is with bug joints and tall
He needs more drugs, more food, more training, more rest to fill up his frame and look just as good as someone panda. But when these two lads stand next to each other with Mr Cleanest natural filled out, he blows away simiome panda

Lol, hes past 2gms and on GH and insulin now.

[Disgusted]

Side effects are your body telling you its too much.

Upping the dose to try and eliminate the sides is tantamount to idiocy.

One of the dumbest statements ever.

[Primemuscle]

This thread is like "The Bonfire of the Vanities", bodybuilding style.

Sev looks darn good. Everyone works with what they have. -Really cannot compare Sev and Bigro....they each have completely different body types.

[Simple Simon]

Haha yes..

Love the "look how little I took and how much better I looked stories"

The stories are a reality for some , you know, the ones with good genetics for the sport.