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Re: The Mature thread
« Reply #2475 on: June 19, 2013, 07:56:46 PM »
I am managing to take at least one body part exercise routine off every so often....at least it hasn't always been the same muscle group. Tonight I should have worked my back, but I did not make it to the gym because of a series of events.

About the time I would usually head out for my workout, I was held up on the phone dealing with the contractor for my recent replacement gutter purchase which has resulted in some issues I demand be resolved by them. I mean "fuck it" after spending nearly $9,000 on new gutters they should look perfect and they don't. And yes, cross me and I can be a real asshole to deal with as the contractor found out today.

The second disruption is more welcome. Our daughter, son-in-law, grandson and their two dogs are in town for my son-in-law's grandmother's funeral next Friday (note: too many funerals lately). Anyway they are staying with us and my daughter decided to fix all of us dinner tonight. They like to eat early which also resulted in my usual window of opportunity for my workout being further cut away. I did make good use to the time though, I got some much needed yard work done.

I am down with it though. Life is all about maintaining balance. If I miss a day here or there not going to the gym, I will still survive and maybe even progress in the long run. And dinner was very healthy fare. My daughter is a vegetarian. We had soup with very little chicken in it, a great salad and terrific rolls....oh and a few glasses of a really tasty wine.

So I have a question, which always occurs to me when I miss a day at the gym; is it better to skip the routine I would have done and stay on schedule or is it better to do the routine which will put me off schedule? I've tried both. Here is what I have concluded, if I miss working out a particular muscle group, there is always next week as opposed to when I try to stay to the routine, every day I spend catching up feels like I am punishing myself for skipping that one day....which is very negative. Often I end up pooping out and missing a day and a part of my routine anyway, even if it is several days later.

I know what you all are thinking too, the fellow is retired, he doesn't even have to work, what the heck is his problem? I am with you on this except to say that when we get older, there is a reason we retire if we can. That reason is that we simply don't have the same energy levels we once did.

How's that for a lesson in being "mature" and one I bet you don't want to know about, since most all of you are young enough to be my children.

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Re: The Mature thread
« Reply #2476 on: June 19, 2013, 08:04:45 PM »
it is crazy what is going on around the Globe. Germans are very strict about Money.. sounds like the US maybe is better. I do not Know.

I have been accused of being frugal by my family. Perhaps I am too European and too strict with my finances? All I know is that I hate debt. I will do anything including going without to avoid debt. My parents lived the high life all the while they were actually underwater financially. I cannot live like that. So yes, maybe I am a bit frugal or more commonly thought of as being cheap.

I am a senior living on a fixed income, while the economy (no matter how bad it is), keeps inflating, year after year. Although I am doing fine today, if I should get lucky and live another 20 years, things could become tight around here. The last thing I want is to be dependent on others to survive. Although I feel confident that my children would never let my wife or I end up homeless, I rather they never have to make a decision about this. So I will continue with my frugal ways.

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« Reply #2477 on: June 19, 2013, 08:06:44 PM »
i would throw a few sets or couple movements say chinups x2 and rows x2 good heavy weight good reps and then move on to main group that day,,better to get some pump in there so it dosent lapse say 7/10 days between session...miss sorta but not entirely...

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« Reply #2478 on: June 19, 2013, 08:08:00 PM »
i would throw a few sets or couple movements say chinups x2 and rows x2 good heavy weight good reps and then move on to main group that day,,better to get some pump in there so it dosent lapse say 7/10 days between session...miss sorta but not entirely...
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« Reply #2479 on: June 19, 2013, 08:20:48 PM »
i would throw a few sets or couple movements say chinups x2 and rows x2 good heavy weight good reps and then move on to main group that day,,better to get some pump in there so it dosent lapse say 7/10 days between session...miss sorta but not entirely...

Sounds like a plan. I probably need a home gym, because it is now 8:00 p.m. and I have no desire to drive to the gym for a pump. However, this is good advice for the future.

I have to laugh at the idea of chin-ups because I am so pathetically weak on this exercise, which of course means I should be doing them.

We should be training partners, you and I. I am not sure what I have to offer you, but you have a lot of inspiration to offer me.

Incidentally, my son-in-law, who is a great guy, used to be a National Champion Pairs Figure Skater and was fit as a fiddle. After fifteen years in the army, I notice he has a fair sized gut on him. He also has far more injuries than I do and many of them are service related. He has two bum knees, neck issues, migraine headaches, and mild PTSD as a result of three deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan over these last many years. His MOS is forward observer. Forward observers have one of the highest mortality rates of any position in the U.S. Army.

If I miss a day at the gym to spend time with the guy that makes my daughter happy, so be it.

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Re: The Mature thread
« Reply #2480 on: June 19, 2013, 08:28:06 PM »
Sounds like a plan. I probably need a home gym, because it is now 8:00 p.m. and I have no desire to drive to the gym for a pump. However, this is good advice for the future.

I have to laugh at the idea of chin-ups because I am so pathetically weak on this exercise, which of course means I should be doing them.

We should be training partners, you and I. I am not sure what I have to offer you, but you have a lot of inspiration to offer me.

Incidentally, my son-in-law, who is a great guy, used to be a National Champion Pairs Figure Skater and was fit as a fiddle. After fifteen years in the army, I notice he has a fair sized gut on him. He also has far more injuries than I do and many of them are service related. He has two bum knees, neck issues, migraine headaches, and mild PTSD as a result of three deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan over these last many years. His MOS is forward observer. Forward observers have one of the highest mortality rates of any position in the U.S. Army.

If I miss a day at the gym to spend time with the guy that makes my daughter happy, so be it.
i'll be right over,,, ;D

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« Reply #2481 on: June 19, 2013, 11:06:27 PM »
i'll be right over,,, ;D

Thanks Steve, you are a standup guy who I would feel honored to train with.

Just because I have been keeping track, I am going to say I am okay with missing my back workout today, and here's why; in the last seven weeks I had missed 4 days working out, two were legs, one was shoulders and one was chest. The only thing I have not missed a beat on is arms. Since arms are the first work out of the week, this is understandable.

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« Reply #2482 on: June 20, 2013, 06:52:09 AM »
If I miss a scheduled workout I just hit it the day after. It's okay to miss workouts. No where is it written that in order to gain leg day has to be say Tuesday. So if you miss Tuesday it's legs on Wednesday. Guys get so anal about days of the week. Monday is chest. Tuesday is back. Wednesday is off. Thursday is legs. Friday is delt and arms. Weekends off. Don't let the 7 day calendar be a dictator to your recovery. Your body doesn't work according to a 7 day calendar. If you need a day off take it. If work interferes because of over time or just exhaustion push that work out to the next day. Chances are you will come back stronger getting a better pump.  

Now if you are drugged to the gills and you make a living off bodybuilding you can be a little unbending with taking days off. Both Yates and Mentzer said if you need an unscheduled day off then take it.

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Re: The Mature thread
« Reply #2483 on: June 20, 2013, 07:20:19 AM »
If I miss a scheduled workout I just hit it the day after. It's okay to miss workouts. No where is it written that in order to gain leg day has to be say Tuesday. So if you miss Tuesday it's legs on Wednesday. Guys get so anal about days of the week. Monday is chest. Tuesday is back. Wednesday is off. Thursday is legs. Friday is delt and arms. Weekends off. Don't let the 7 day calendar be a dictator to your recovery. Your body doesn't work according to a 7 day calendar. If you need a day off take it. If work interferes because of over time or just exhaustion push that work out to the next day. Chances are you will come back stronger getting a better pump.  

Now if you are drugged to the gills and you make a living off bodybuilding you can be a little unbending with taking days off. Both Yates and Mentzer said if you need an unscheduled day off then take it.
SOUND ADVICE,,AND I AGREE WITH THIS ,,DONE THIS MANY TIMES,,

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« Reply #2484 on: June 20, 2013, 07:53:05 AM »
SOUND ADVICE,,AND I AGREE WITH THIS ,,DONE THIS MANY TIMES,,
yes me too...Sound advice

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Re: The Mature thread
« Reply #2485 on: June 20, 2013, 08:15:13 AM »
so later i will pump up my delts and do some bike cardio...

I will do a very fast moving tri-set..then at the end some seated DB presses. sure i will be using less weight at the end with my presses but for me itīs about Feeling the muscles.. my delts are alway getting worked on chest and even back day to a degree.

Front DB raises 3-5 x 12
side DB raises 3-5x12
Rear DB raises 3-5x12

seated DB press 3-5 x8-12

i will go by feel regarding sets...then i will do an interval Programme on the bike. I think i will do some incline slant board sit ups..

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« Reply #2486 on: June 20, 2013, 09:43:45 AM »
If I miss a scheduled workout I just hit it the day after. It's okay to miss workouts. No where is it written that in order to gain leg day has to be say Tuesday. So if you miss Tuesday it's legs on Wednesday. Guys get so anal about days of the week. Monday is chest. Tuesday is back. Wednesday is off. Thursday is legs. Friday is delt and arms. Weekends off. Don't let the 7 day calendar be a dictator to your recovery. Your body doesn't work according to a 7 day calendar. If you need a day off take it. If work interferes because of over time or just exhaustion push that work out to the next day. Chances are you will come back stronger getting a better pump.  

Now if you are drugged to the gills and you make a living off bodybuilding you can be a little unbending with taking days off. Both Yates and Mentzer said if you need an unscheduled day off then take it.

Thanks for your advice. You hit the nail on the head when you mentioned not getting too anal about the workout routine. I have been rightly accused of being very anal about some things occasionally. This would be one of those things or times.

Clearly I am not either drugged to the gills or planning on being the oldest living professional bodybuilder anytime soon. I just want to be healthy and fit for as long as possible....hopefully until the day I die and also hopefully that day will be a long time from now.

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« Reply #2487 on: June 20, 2013, 09:46:29 AM »
yes me too...Sound advice

Seems like we are all in agreement then. I need to be a little less obsessive about what I do and when I do it when it comes to working out. Got and thanks to you, Steve and Oldtimer1 for giving me permission to be a little less uptight about working out.

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« Reply #2488 on: June 20, 2013, 09:53:17 AM »
THATS WHY I HAVE A NEW MACHINE GIVEN TO ME .STACK VERSION WITH CHEST/LAT/TRI/BICEP/LEG ABILITY I MISS SOMETHING OR WANT EXTRA DAY TO DO TOTAL BODY I CAN ;D...

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« Reply #2489 on: June 20, 2013, 10:29:11 AM »
THATS WHY I HAVE A NEW MACHINE GIVEN TO ME .STACK VERSION WITH CHEST/LAT/TRI/BICEP/LEG ABILITY I MISS SOMETHING OR WANT EXTRA DAY TO DO TOTAL BODY I CAN ;D...

Now I know what I need for Christmas or sooner. Convert one of our three spare bedrooms into a workout room with a multipurpose machine like yours and also move the treadmill in there for cardio. I'll cover the walls with mirrors so I can see my magnificent body developing by flexing between sets. And since I will be in the privacy of my own home, I can work out wearing the proverbial (orange) thong. ;D That should do it....wait, I also need a tripod for my camera and some good lighting for all the photos I will post up on Getbig.  ;D ;D

Note: Some of what I just wrote is serious and some of it is a joke, for those who have trouble telling the difference.

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« Reply #2490 on: June 20, 2013, 10:32:57 AM »
Now I know what I need for Christmas or sooner. Convert one of our three spare bedrooms into a workout room with a multipurpose machine like yours and also move the treadmill in there for cardio. I'll cover the walls with mirrors so I can see my magnificent body developing by flexing between sets. And since I will be in the privacy of my own home, I can work out wearing the proverbial (orange) thong. ;D That should do it....wait, I also need a tripod for my camera and some good lighting for all the photos I will post up on Getbig.  ;D ;D

Note: Some of what I just wrote is serious and some of it is a joke, for those who have trouble telling the difference.
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« Reply #2491 on: June 20, 2013, 11:53:21 AM »
THATS WHY I HAVE A NEW MACHINE GIVEN TO ME .STACK VERSION WITH CHEST/LAT/TRI/BICEP/LEG ABILITY I MISS SOMETHING OR WANT EXTRA DAY TO DO TOTAL BODY I CAN ;D...
yes i like working out at home too. Got enough weight for me...

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« Reply #2492 on: June 20, 2013, 01:18:37 PM »
funny i am just watching The Streets of San Francisco....he he  watched this in the UK as a kid....old 70s cop series  ;D ;D man...check out the Flares

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« Reply #2493 on: June 20, 2013, 01:28:24 PM »
funny i am just watching The Streets of San Francisco....he he  watched this in the UK as a kid....old 70s cop series  ;D ;D man...check out the Flares
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« Reply #2494 on: June 20, 2013, 02:46:41 PM »
Still funny watching it.:....it's in German

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« Reply #2495 on: June 20, 2013, 06:09:17 PM »
It almost killed me to vary from my set routine, but I survived. There is hope for me yet!  :) Thanks for the votes of confidence.

Today I worked back

My weight was 210

Hammer front lat pull-downs, 5X15-8 @ 140-250 lbs.
Nautilus complete rows, 4X12-8 @ 120-160
Hammer low rows, 3X12-8 @ 180-230
Nautilus reverse grip pull-downs, 3X12-8 @ 131-158
Hammer one arm rows, 2X10-8 @ 45-70
Nautilus rowing back, 3X14-12 @ 80-120
Finished off with cable full range front pull-downs (just cause) 3X15 @ 108

Tomorrow I will work deltoids.

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« Reply #2496 on: June 20, 2013, 06:12:44 PM »
Still funny watching it.:....it's in German

My wife watches Law and Order Special Victims shows over and over again. This series has been on the air for so long, it is actually possible to forget how the plot plays out in a given show. I admit that I sometimes watch this with her. One of my favorite shows to watch is House Hunters International. It is almost like traveling to foreign places, almost but not quite the same as actually being there.

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« Reply #2497 on: June 20, 2013, 07:49:00 PM »
delts,

same as last workout hi rep side laterals to start,,20 lb x20,25x20.25x20,30x15
fr press x3
seated bent laterals rear delt,25x12,30x10.30x10
upright rows x2 premade curl bar 70x12,80x10
fr raises db x2 35/35 sets 10

shrugs on chest machine hammer  3 plates x20/4plates x20/5 plates x15
finished holding 45plate per hand and slow trap squeeze up shrug x20 2 sets

forarms reverse cable curl behind back and curl bar reverse 3 times each

calves standing calf raises 3x toes in/out/straight 8 reps per foot position ,,,

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« Reply #2498 on: June 21, 2013, 10:35:48 AM »
pumped my arms today...

after a good warm up...

Close grip chins 3x max Superset with
Close grip bench press 3x10

Seated DB curls 3x10 Superset with
seated (back supported) two arm DB extensions 3x10

Reverse ez bar curls 3x10-15 Superset with
Reverse Grip pulley pushdowns(straight bar) 3x10-15

the last superset i liked...both reverse grips but one Lifting Curling and the opposite with a reverse grip going the other way for triceps... i then did old fashioned leg raises of a flat bench.

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« Reply #2499 on: June 21, 2013, 03:19:50 PM »
a little fun ,,she got new tires today,and i always detail myself unless too tired then car washed 'brushless'of course,she's like me a little older 2004,some mileage 93,000 almost perfect other than some chips in bumper which i try to touch up :P,,,,otherwise well kept,,in and out..