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Title: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 09, 2012, 04:38:31 AM
only on Friday, barbell curls and skull crushers. I think my arms are worked enough with all the pressing and rowing. i then on Friday concentrate on only two exercises for Five sets each.

obviously my reading skills are not what they once were...

makes sense
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 09, 2012, 06:32:05 AM
Looks like a solid routine. Even though I use a bodybuilder type routine for myself I do realize the body part mentality of bodybuilding is sometimes foolish. Your body does anything athletically as a unit. Therefore just using something like power cleans and presses really does work the body as a whole. Does doing 4 types of curls in a routine do anything to make you a better athlete?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 09, 2012, 10:46:51 AM
I TRAIN 4 DAYS PER WK ..44 YRS OLD
MON CHEST/TRI/ABS EXAMPLE
FDB PRESS WARMUP THE 3 SETS 12/10/6-8
INC SMITH OR INC DBBELL 3 SETS SAME REP PATTERN SOMETIMES LAST SET WITH DROP

LOWER HAMMER PRESS X3 10/10/8
DIPS X2 15/20 REPS
FLYES OR CABLE CROSSOVERS TOTAL 14-15 SETS MAXX

TRIS
EXTENSIONS X3 15/12/8-12
DIP MACHINE X3 10-12 HIGHER REPS FOR TRIS
SEATED EXTENSION X3
TRI KICK BACKS CABLE X2 11 SETS TOTAL
 ABS ,,

WED BACK ,,BI'S ..ABS

CHINS X3 15/12/12
BENT OVER OR TBAR ROW X3 12/10/8
SEATED CABLE ROWS X3 10/10/10
REVERSE PULLDOWNS X3
SINGLE ARM DB ROW OR STANDUP PULLDOWN OR SINGLE ARM CABLE ROW 2/3 ,,,14/15 SETS TOTAL

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 12/15 REPS

BIS
CURLS X3 12/10/10
INC OR STANDING DB CURL X3 10//10/8
SCOTT CURL MACHINE X3  USUALLY 9 TOTAL SETS

ABS

THURS DELTS,FOREARMS,CALVES

SMITH FR PRESS WARMUP 3 WORKING SETS 12/10/8/6
SIDE LATERALS X3 10/10/8
REVERSE CABLE LATERALS REAR DELT X3
UPRIGHT ROW X3
SOMETIMES FINISH DB PRESS X3 13/14 WORKING SETS

SHRUGS FR AND REAR X3,,X3,,

FOREARMS OLS SCHOOL WEIGHTED ROPE ROLLUPS
REVERSE CABLE BEHIND BACK WRIST CURLS X3

CALVES STANDING CALF RAISE EITHER 4-5 SETS 12-15 REPS OR TOE POSITION CHANGE SETS SAME WEIGHT BUT 3 TOE POSITIONS

SAT LEGS,,,
WARMUP SETS EITHER LIGHT SQUAT OR EXTENSIONS
AFTER WARMUP START HEAVY EXTENSION'S HEAVY AS STACK AT TIMES X3 12/12/12
SQUAT EITHER SHOULDER OR FEET CLOSE TOGETHER X3 12/10/10/8
LEG PRESS X3
WALKING LUNGES WEIGHTED X3

HAMS
SLDL X4
LEG CURL SEATED OT LYING X3

CALVES
LEG PRESS TOE PRESS X3
SEATED CALF RAISE X3 OR 3 SET DROPS 10 REPS PER SET

ZERO CARDIO ,,1 HR TO 1 HR 20 PER WORKOUT....DIET MEAL 1 EGG BEATERS WITH WHEAT SLICES 2,,MEAL 2 GREEK YOGURT WITH SCOOP
PROTEIN AND BANANA OR SHAKE MIXED WITH BANANA PB BUTTER,,,MEAL 3 TUNA /BROWN RICE 1 CUP OR CHICKEN/RICE ,TUNA SANDWHICH
MEAL 4 DINNER AT HOME VEGGIES,PROTEIN CARB,,MEAL 5 AFTER WORKOUT CEREAL WITH PROTEIN POWDER OR SHAKE ,,EXTRAS INCLUDE

 LOW FAT GRAHAM CRACKERS,,,WHEAT CRACKERS,,LOW FAT ICECREAM WHEN IN MOOD,,,EXRTRA FATS PBUTTER,OLIVE OIL,,
I DO NOT COUNT CALORIES I EAT WHEN HUNGRY TRY TO EAT CLEAN AND OR CLEAN JUNK IF NEEDED LOL,,,ALWAYS HAVE ABS..STILL PRETTY DAMN STRONG AND GREAT ENERGY ,,,SLEEP 6-7 HRS PER DAY AND 2 GIRLS 3 AND 7.

HAVE A LOT OF PICTURES HERE WILL POST IF ASKED,,,,,

FINISH UP WITH SUPP'S I USE MULTI VITAMIN,CREATINE OFF AND ON ,,,3 GRAMS ARGININE BEFORE WORKOUT,PROTEIN MIX 2 X PER DAY,
THATS IT AND REGULAR COFFEE NO STIMULANT TYPE PREWORKOUT OTHER THAN CREA/ARGINE MY OWN BLEND.


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 09, 2012, 10:59:16 AM
Great post.....very detailed and i liked reading  about your diet  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 09, 2012, 11:25:45 AM
61 years old only 3 days out of every 7 now. alt workouts. mon weds friday. 2  diff w/o's.  w/o 1= back 8 sets pulldowns long bar 15-20 reps 100 lbs constant,8 sets with parrarll bar8-15 reps various grips including close palms facing back increasing weight from 100-150 lbs. 2 sets of chins bdwt 22 reps each set. parallel grip chins 2 sets 12. db rows 50 lb dbs 5 sets of 15 reps. chest benchpress 6-8 sets 90 lbs to 225 less reps as wt increases. pushups on parralell bars 6 sets of 20-30 reps. 5 sets high incline db presses 30-60 lbs 30-15 reps as wt increases. 3 sets calf raises 3 sets leg ext leg curls. various ab work.  second workout is 5 diff exercisesof 3 sets each for bis and tris. some ab work that's it. i keep alt workouts every other time. eat mostly chicken and fish potatoes and rice, and various other vegetables.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 09, 2012, 11:28:00 AM
this is how i looked when i was younger. worked out hard but ate and drank everything and anything.no drugs of any kind
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 10, 2012, 05:08:45 AM
Funk you looked solid built in the picture. I take it even then you did old school full body type workouts?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 10, 2012, 10:50:27 AM
i came here expecting other content :-[

ha ha.... no one else thought about making such a hilarious comment
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2012, 10:44:51 AM
I am glad to have found this thread, since I definitely qualify to post here. But right now I have to go pee....again. That's a joke. Actually it is time for me to have breakfast. The idea of the tread is great.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 11, 2012, 11:52:52 AM
Funk you looked solid built in the picture. I take it even then you did old school full body type workouts?
yup only then it was much heavier and not as regimented just used the jc grimek 1000 exercise principle of instinctive training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2012, 01:52:49 PM
So before I contribute to this tread, I need to know if being a somewhat "immature" 68 year old who still enjoys hitting the gym on an irregular basis is a qualifier? It has obviously been a really long time since I was just over 40 years old. With each decade that has passed since turning 40, I've modified my workouts, diet and goals. If there are folks who are interested in what this senior citizen does to stay in shape, then I will contribute by sharing my experiences.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 11, 2012, 02:52:45 PM
Primemuscle....please do tell us.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 11, 2012, 03:51:19 PM
Hey, I'm only 34 but have made a lot of changes to my training over the last 12 months in an attempt to build for longevity... I'm listening (or rather reading)...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on November 11, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Old guys are encouraged to share their trainings secrets for longevity as well as any ideas they have used to work around injuries from being young, dumb and reckless!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 11, 2012, 06:35:43 PM
Primemuscle....please do tell us.

For starters, I should clarify that I have not trained regularly since I was diagnosed with prostate cancer almost a year ago. At first I think I was just so bummed out, I lost interest in working out. After I had a prostatectomy last July, I was in recovery mode for awhile. Still, here it is November and I am fully recovered and doing fine and have yet to restart my workouts. I have no decent excuse for this, just a lot of silly ones.

Before I got sick, I weighed 225 lbs with about 14 to 15%  body-fat (my guesstimate). My waist measurement was 34 or 35" depending on how much I ate. My chest was and is 47". My arms were almost 17" and I hope growing. Anyway that gives you some idea of where I was at a year ago.

After the surgery, I weighed 192 lbs. Presently, I weigh 200 lbs. I haven't taken any measurements because I don't want to get depressed! What I do know is that 36" pants are comfortable, but not tight in the waist and that is depressing to me. Considering my height, which is currently 5' 10 1/2" and my bone structure, which is fairly large, having a 36" waistline is not ideal. I'd prefer 32"....but that may never happen.

When last I was exercising in earnest, I was working one muscle group a day. A complete cycle took 5 days. I made every effort to keep within a one hour time frame. I was working out as heavy as I ever had, so no real loss in strength over the years (it will be interesting to see how quickly I can recover the strength I had once I start back). Mainly, recovery time seems longer than when I was younger.

I have instructed myself to go to the gym tomorrow. I will remember to start out slowly and not expect to lift what I was lifting prior to quitting. Actually, I will stick to machines such as Nautilus equipment. I will start by doing 20 minutes of cardio because if i wait to do this after weight training I won't do it at all. My total workout will not last more than 1 hour. This first week back, I will only go to the gym every other day for three days, as in Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Each day I will work all muscle groups. Call this my warm-up period.

Initially, I will continue to limit my food intake so as not to start gaining any weight. I have, probably for the first time in my adult life decided that I want to be lean again. Well, not like I was before I started lifting as a teenager. Then I weighed only 144 lbs., but I think I might be good at between 175 and 180 lbs today. I have no intention of trying to break any personal lift records. My goal is to get my ass back in shape and stay in shape for the rest of my life.

Wish me luck and success.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2012, 02:13:41 AM
This is what this thread is all about primemuscle, motivating each other to get in shape AND stay in shape.Keep us up dated on any improvements and how you feel mentally. we all have good and bad Days and just coming in here can maybe help you. Sorry to read about your Health problems but you come over as a Fighter. NEVER give up. I have stepped up my cardio now and will lose a bit of flab. My 3 Day split will stay the same but more cardio and my diet i will sort out.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2012, 02:17:31 AM
Old guys are encouraged to share their trainings secrets for longevity as well as any ideas they have used to work around injuries from being young, dumb and reckless!
100%
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 02:46:48 AM
This is what this thread is all about primemuscle, motivating each other to get in shape AND stay in shape.Keep us up dated on any improvements and how you feel mentally. we all have good and bad Days and just coming in here can maybe help you. Sorry to read about your Health problems but you come over as a Fighter. NEVER give up. I have stepped up my cardio now and will lose a bit of flab. My 3 Day split will stay the same but more cardio and my diet i will sort out.

Thanks for the welcome, Donny.

My hope is to use your thread as a catalyst for getting back in the game. I seriously need some inspiration and motivation. I believe that your thread can provide this for me. If I post here everyday, regardless of whether I do what I know I should or not, I think it will help me stay on target.

Today being Sunday (actually it is early Monday morning right now), I did not do much in the way of exercise. Because my wife has a lot of health issues, I spend a portion of everyday making sure she is OK. This is one of the reasons I retired when I did.

Look for tomorrow's post on the success of my Monday workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 12, 2012, 07:52:09 AM
Thanks for the welcome, Donny.

My hope is to use your thread as a catalyst for getting back in the game. I seriously need some inspiration and motivation. I believe that your thread can provide this for me. If I post here everyday, regardless of whether I do what I know I should or not, I think it will help me stay on target.

Today being Sunday (actually it is early Monday morning right now), I did not do much in the way of exercise. Because my wife has a lot of health issues, I spend a portion of everyday making sure she is OK. This is one of the reasons I retired when I did.

Look for tomorrow's post on the success of my Monday workout.
Thanks man, itīs not my thread itīs our thread ;) I replaced Flat Benches today with parallel bar dips...was great. really felt my pecs working.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Viking11 on November 12, 2012, 03:39:44 PM
So, no MILFS then?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 12, 2012, 04:10:52 PM
So, no MILFS then?
Well I've posted in here.  HAHA   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2012, 04:15:14 PM
Well I've posted in here.  HAHA   ;D
yes u have,,,, ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Viking11 on November 12, 2012, 04:34:46 PM
Well I've posted in here.  HAHA   ;D
Well then where's your training posts? Or at least naked workout pics?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on November 12, 2012, 04:43:47 PM
Let me interject here, this thread will be moderated at my discretion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 12, 2012, 05:07:30 PM
Well then where's your training posts? Or at least naked workout pics?
Am just reading the thread.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Viking11 on November 12, 2012, 05:35:16 PM
Let me interject here, this thread will be moderated at my discretion.
All righty then, Cap'n Happy..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 05:43:22 PM
I got home from the gym at about 4:30 p.m. My "workout" went well. I did 20 minutes of light cardio before jumping on the machines. My total time working out was a little shy of an hour. Because I have not seriously worked out for many months, I kept to resistance very light. As I mentioned, to get my ass back into a routine, I decided a full body work out done at least three times a week would be my initial goal.

Interestingly enough, I slept late this morning and when I finally got up, I found myself talking myself out of going to the gym today....not sure why. Anyway, I bit the bullet and went and now I am glad I did. Tomorrow I may go there and swim some laps. Wednesday, I be back on the machines and I'll increase the resistance slightly. I am going to take this one step and one day at a time.

One thing that is encouraging at the gym I go to is that there are a lot of us old farts who have spent a lot of our lives being gym rats. Of course there are also a lot of younger people who work out there too. It is a nice mix. I was amused by a fellow that spent more time setting up his laptop on treadmill then he did actually walking. I find I do best with minimal distractions, although I do like some tunes. My daughter gave me an Ipod a few years ago, which I am going to charge up for my next session.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 05:45:27 PM
Let me interject here, this thread will be moderated at my discretion.

I hope you are being serious. It would be good if there was at least one thread which didn't veer off topic and was relatively serious. I am hoping....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on November 12, 2012, 06:50:46 PM
I hope you are being serious. It would be good if there was at least one thread which didn't veer off topic and was relatively serious. I am hoping....
Dead serious. There was a request for this sticky so some of the older, more experienced lifters could share their experiences and ideas. I will not allow this to turn into another flirty "show us your tits" thread. Everyone is welcome to contribute and offer ideas, but that other shit will be deleted. Take it to the g&o.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 07:53:17 PM
I thought it would be good to also write about my diet, since some of us more mature types aren't following the same diet we did when our metabolisms were faster.

Today I had a bowl of Kashi Go Lean with 2% milk and a very small glass of orange juice for breakfast. Since I didn't get out of bed until the day was half over, I skipped lunch. My wife and I did go to Starbucks and I had a grande Chai latte. For dinner we had sautéed portabella mushroom "burgers" on whole wheat buns. I spread some artichoke dip on mine and had tomatoes on the side. Added to this was acorn squash on the side, with salt pepper and butter. To drink, I had a scotch neat.

As I write this I am drinking a cup of Chai tea, sans milk, but with one teaspoon of sugar. We will probably break open a package of harvest cookies from our local market in an hour or so. Harvest cookies are kind of like eating a granola bar that is instead a cookie. -Full of sugar, but fools you into thinking you are eating healthy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2012, 08:03:10 PM
I thought it would be good to also write about my diet, since some of us more mature types aren't following the same diet we did when our metabolisms were faster.

Today I had a bowl of Kashi Go Lean with 2% milk and a very small glass of orange juice for breakfast. Since I didn't get out of bed until the day was half over, I skipped lunch. My wife and I did go to Starbucks and I had a grande Chai latte. For dinner we had sautéed portabella mushroom "burgers" on whole wheat buns. I spread some artichoke dip on mine and had tomatoes on the side. Added to this was acorn squash on the side, with salt pepper and butter. To drink, I had a scotch neat.

As I write this I am drinking a cup of Chai tea, sans milk, but with one teaspoon of sugar. We will probably break open a package of harvest cookies from our local market in an hour or so. Harvest cookies are kind of like eating a granola bar that is instead a cookie. -Full of sugar, but fools you into thinking you are eating healthy.
cool prime,,,i did the tuna/chick/rice thing strict for yrs,,,still follow it but allow other things carb wise,some sugars. fruits,and even pasta ,,i still do zero cardio and maintain under 10 pct bf..training is important not drug's 1st then train ,,i have old school methods to this day,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 08:10:30 PM
cool prime,,,i did the tuna/chick/rice thing strict for yrs,,,still follow it but allow other things carb wise,some sugars. fruits,and even pasta ,,i still do zero cardio and maintain under 10 pct bf..training is important not drug's 1st then train ,,i have old school methods to this day,,

I was thinking today about the possibility of using an energy booster like Ephedrine to jump-start weight loss. Any thoughts about this?

I have no issues with hypertension, so I was thinking it shouldn't be a problem for me to use it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2012, 08:13:58 PM
I was thinking today about the possibility of using an energy booster like Ephedrine to jump-start weight loss. Any thoughts about this?

I have no issues with hypertension, so I was thinking it shouldn't be a problem for me to use it.
yeah caffeine whether drink or using pills,or ephedra and bronkaid boosters which allow more blood and used to clear lungs..get heart rate going,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 12, 2012, 08:21:26 PM
yeah caffeine whether drink or using pills,or ephedra and bronkaid boosters which allow more blood and used to clear lungs..get heart rate going,,

-Right. Today when I was doing cardio, my heart rate never went above 106. I know I can get it up a lot higher, because I have done so in the past with no problem. However, I was easing into the whole work out thing today and didn't want to overdo any aspect of it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 12, 2012, 08:23:29 PM
-Right. Today when I was doing cardio, my heart rate never went above 106. I know I can get it up a lot higher, because I have done so in the past with no problem. However, I was easing into the whole work out thing today and didn't want to overdo any aspect of it.
good luck,,,take it easy lol,,,easier said than done,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 02:01:10 AM
-Right. Today when I was doing cardio, my heart rate never went above 106. I know I can get it up a lot higher, because I have done so in the past with no problem. However, I was easing into the whole work out thing today and didn't want to overdo any aspect of it.
Just take it one step at a time but with Cardio you will be surprised how quick you get back in shape.I will be out pounding the streets again tonight and there is a nice route i will do. It starts flat and then inclines....inclines and when i am on my way back about 40 mins later i have to hit it again, it is a mental challange... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 02:09:22 AM
Dead serious. There was a request for this sticky so some of the older, more experienced lifters could share their experiences and ideas. I will not allow this to turn into another flirty "show us your tits" thread. Everyone is welcome to contribute and offer ideas, but that other shit will be deleted. Take it to the g&o.
yes this is the idea behind this thread to keep it serious and on track.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 13, 2012, 09:46:25 AM
another thing here would be exercises that are useless and downright dangerous to do. for example the pulldown to the back is not a good exercise as it has contributed to more shoulder injuries than  it's worth from my experience.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 13, 2012, 09:51:36 AM
another thing here would be exercises that are useless and downright dangerous to do. for example the pulldown to the back is not a good exercise as it has contributed to more shoulder injuries than  it's worth from my experience.
skull crushers for me painful,useless,,,behind neck press ,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 10:12:24 AM
What i find interesting is a gym i worked in had Hammer strengh machines, the Boss always said that supinated pull downs are hard for your shoulder. I have always had better results using this grip (under hand). I really do believe as you wrote Funky that behind the neck work is very hard for your shoulder structure. I loved the Hammer strength (supinated) grip pull down.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 10:25:22 AM
skull crushers for me painful,useless,,,behind neck press ,,,,
skull crushers work for me ( try 2 Bells hammer grip maybe kinder to you ) but BB behind the neck press...terrible :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 13, 2012, 11:12:35 AM
another shoulder wrecker is upright close grip rows for traps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 11:15:40 AM
PRIMEMUSCLE....are you still with us ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 13, 2012, 01:30:45 PM
PRIMEMUSCLE....are you still with us ?

I had a breakfast meeting today. I just got home. -Nothing to post at the moment regarding exercise, since all I exercised so far today was my voice and a little hand to mouth action while eating. I'll get back to you in bit. I am headed to the gym to swim some laps in the next hour or so. When I get home there are leaves all over my yard begging to be raked up and put out with the yard debris recycle tonight. I may be otherwise occupied until this evening when I will post an update.

Keep in mind that I live in Oregon and what that means in terms of time zones. Presently, it is 1:35 p.m.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 13, 2012, 05:54:54 PM
I had a breakfast meeting today. I just got home. -Nothing to post at the moment regarding exercise, since all I exercised so far today was my voice and a little hand to mouth action while eating. I'll get back to you in bit. I am headed to the gym to swim some laps in the next hour or so. When I get home there are leaves all over my yard begging to be raked up and put out with the yard debris recycle tonight. I may be otherwise occupied until this evening when I will post an update.

Keep in mind that I live in Oregon and what that means in terms of time zones. Presently, it is 1:35 p.m.
Tomorrow i want you to move your arse
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on November 13, 2012, 07:43:50 PM
another thing here would be exercises that are useless and downright dangerous to do. for example the pulldown to the back is not a good exercise as it has contributed to more shoulder injuries than  it's worth from my experience.
Now I don't do this one all the time but never had any issue with it or bnp.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 13, 2012, 09:14:58 PM
Tomorrow i want you to move your arse

You jump to conclusions. I did move my butt. I went to the gym, swimming laps as planned for 30 minutes. I also enjoyed the sauna and the hot tub. After I was finish relaxing, I hit the high speed tanning bed for 7 minutes. When I got home from the gym, I raked leaves for about an hour.

Just as I was finishing this little leaf clean up project, my sister and her friend pulled in the driveway. They're still here.

Breakfast was off the menu from the Village Inn with two cups of coffee, see menu item below.* For lunch I went to Wendy's and ordered a dinner salad pomegranate vinaigrette. Since my sister and her friend arrived shortly before dinner and I felt the need to feed them, I gave them a choice between Papa Murphy's pizza or take out Chinese food from a local restaurant. They opted for Chinese take out. I ordered almond chicken, sub gum mien mien and fried shrimp for myself. The meal came with chicken fried rice, which I did not eat. We ate off the coffee table out of the to go boxes while watching Jeopardy. It was fun.

*Southwest Potato Pancake Benedict Scramble* Tender pork carnitas, sliced avocado, farm-fresh scrambled eggs, Pepper Jack cheese smothered with our zesty Green Chili Hollandaise atop two potato pancakes with a melon wedge.

I am only mildly sore from yesterday's workout, which is exactly what I was shooting for. Tomorrow I will repeat Monday's workout, increasing the weight resistance only slightly.

Incidentally, I weighed about 1/2 pound less today than yesterday. This is probably water loss. Still, if I could drop 10 to 12 pounds a month I should be right were I want to be in less then two months.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 13, 2012, 09:28:20 PM
another thing here would be exercises that are useless and downright dangerous to do. for example the pulldown to the back is not a good exercise as it has contributed to more shoulder injuries than  it's worth from my experience.

I don't find any exercises dangerous when I do them with good form and reasonable resistance. No exercise seems useless to me, how one does it might make it ineffective though. Sometimes hand position is everything. Pull-downs are much more comfortable when done on a machine that allow you to grip the handles with your palms facing each other. I am a big fan of slow deliberate movements as opposed to going all herky jerky. Everyone I know who has experience injuries was doing the exercise incorrectly, either by using too much weight or by not following good form.

To the best of my recollection, I have never sustained an injury from weight training. I have twisted my knee when running on uneven pavement though. I don't run now except on the treadmill for this reason. More often then not, even when using the treadmill, I will speed walk instead of running. I think this is just as beneficial and much lower impact.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 03:06:39 AM
Primemuscle you are a good guy..you have character, i like this. Yes i am very blunt sometimes but i mean it well.Yesterday i had a great run about 50 mins with hill work. I then did 100 crunches (feet elevated on bench ) and 100 leg raises 2x 50 as after the crunches 100 straight was too much as after running your midsection is also active so i find after running good to hit them. Today is leg day and i will really squat hard. First 2 sets warm up then 3 working sets. I will do a tri set for calves..seated, standing and jumping rope.. this will hit it all and i will also hit my tibialis anterior with seated tibialis raises (weight plate on my toes). Yes today will be fun day  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 03:14:32 AM
.. want to ask Chaos a question.. have you done jumping squats? as i have never tried them, with a light Barbell. I have heard they hit the calfes very good too. I will maybe try them today too if my legs are up to it.I want to specialize on my calfes because they are terrible...yes i know genetics.. :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 14, 2012, 09:39:06 AM
.. want to ask Chaos a question.. have you done jumping squats? as i have never tried them, with a light Barbell. I have heard they hit the calfes very good too. I will maybe try them today too if my legs are up to it.I want to specialize on my calfes because they are terrible...yes i know genetics.. :'(
use dumbells takes the strain off the  back. ;D. when i was young i used to use 75's for high reps.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 09:41:00 AM
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 09:58:14 AM
use dumbells takes the strain off the  back. ;D. when i was young i used to use 75's for high reps.
I did them today with an empty olympic bar. This was after my leg workout and i was sweating buckets. I hope i have sore calfes tomorrow !!
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 10:19:32 AM
  • My legs are short and therefore are one of the strongest parts of my body. I'd rather do leg work any day over upper body presses because my arms are rather long so I have to move the weight farther. Yeah I know, short legs and long arms brings up some funny imagery.

    I got interesting genetics from my parents. My father was 6'6" with really long legs. My mom was more proportionate at 5'8". Somehow I got my father's torso and arms and my mom's legs. My inseam is 31" while my sleeve length is 35". The good thing I got from both of them, although it didn't seem like it when I was younger, was they were both very lean. Better that then to inherit the tendency to be obese.
interesting point Primemuscle, i mean your parents really determine who you are body wise. Well it's funny because i have also a bit of both my parents. i am only 170cm, 5 7" but built and even if i do not train i am fairly solid. I got this from my Father who was also not big but was very strong and had really thick Forearms and a good broad build. I have a youngish face from my Mother and small hands for a man. sounds funny but it is so. Another thing i got from my Father was as a young guy a bad temper. My Father was a Butcher and was not a guy who showed emotion(where as i do ). He was very cold and very old school. He boxed as a young guy and by a lot of accounts was not bad and i trained too at an early age but Boxing for me had too many "rules". I found thrusting a finger in an eye more effective and other things.
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Post by: chaos on November 14, 2012, 11:14:52 AM
.. want to ask Chaos a question.. have you done jumping squats? as i have never tried them, with a light Barbell. I have heard they hit the calfes very good too. I will maybe try them today too if my legs are up to it.I want to specialize on my calfes because they are terrible...yes i know genetics.. :'(
Eh. Tried them once, the impact down the spine isn't worth it to me. For calves, ride a bike with your toes on the pedals.
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 11:18:37 AM
Eh. Tried them once, the impact down the spine isn't worth it to me. For calves, ride a bike with your toes on the pedals.
yes true but i just tried them Today as a finishing off movement. I really got a good workout.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 12:19:37 PM
Eh. Tried them once, the impact down the spine isn't worth it to me. For calves, ride a bike with your toes on the pedals.

Or move into my neighborhood and ride your bike on the hills.

I've tried everything imaginable short of using posing oil in my calves and while muscular, they are not swole in the least. Calves and forearms just are what they are. And yeah, I do forearm exercises....also to no avail.
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 12:26:35 PM
I would love to live near the sea and i could run bare foot and get a great workout for my calfes.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 12:29:05 PM
interesting point Primemuscle, i mean your parents really determine who you are body wise. Well it's funny because i have also a bit of both my parents. i am only 170cm, 5 7" but built and even if i do not train i am fairly solid. I got this from my Father who was also not big but was very strong and had really thick Forearms and a good broad build. I have a youngish face from my Mother and small hands for a man. sounds funny but it is so. Another thing i got from my Father was as a young guy a bad temper. My Father was a Butcher and was not a guy who showed emotion(where as i do ). He was very cold and very old school. He boxed as a young guy and by a lot of accounts was not bad and i trained too at an early age but Boxing for me had too many "rules". I found thrusting a finger in an eye more effective and other things.

I doubt a bad temper is genetic. However, we do learn from our parents. Some of us outgrown our early childhood development lessons, particularly when they don't serve us well. My mother had a horrible temper (like in being nuts), while my stepfather was very calm 99% of the time. I am not sure what my father's temperament was like, since I barely knew him, but I suspect he had issues. I am generally a very easygoing type personality, although I have my moments. -Guess I didn't completely overcome what my parents passed on to me.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 12:31:59 PM
I would love to live near the sea and i could run bare foot and get a great workout for my calfes.

Years ago, I ran with another fellow in the sand and muck which surrounds an island in the Columbia river near Rooster Rock State Park. It was a killer. -Better than weights on your ankles (which I suspect are not good for you).
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Post by: Donny on November 14, 2012, 12:42:49 PM
Years ago, I ran with another fellow in the sand and muck which surrounds an island in the Columbia river near Rooster Rock State Park. It was a killer. -Better than weights on your ankles (which I suspect are not good for you).
I love the sea and beach... donīt live near one but i would love to run in the sand bare foot.  ;D I believe Steve reeves did this but his lower legs were genetics.
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Post by: njflex on November 14, 2012, 03:52:52 PM
i will give a calf workout that hurts and works,,,i did 3 x per wk for long time and now 2x per wk i had to blast them and have built decent set of calves this is one exercise and done 1x per wk will get results,,,same weight is used through out cause the pain is intense,standing calf raise i use a number say 200 lbs on stack it goes ,,10 reps rest 5 sec,15 reps rest 10 sec,,,25 reps rest 10 sec,,back to 15 rest 10 then 10 to finish 75 reps total under minute rest a minute or so go again 2 times is plenty 150 reps less than 3 minutes,,,forearms i do old school weighted rope rolls up ,,down,up 3 x around...
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 14, 2012, 06:38:48 PM
-Not a lot to report here. I repeated my Monday workout routine today for the most part. I did about 5 more minutes of cardio and upped the Resistance on several exercises a little. Actually, I was a bit sore today prior to working out. That seems to be gone now. Oh, and I added forearm exercises on the Nautilus forearm machine. Incidentally, I move from one exercise to the next with no rest period and no shooting the breeze. While I am training, I am all business.

For breakfast, I had a cup of Greek yogurt with honey and a small glass of orange juice. For lunch I bought my wife and I grilled chicken club sandwiches from McDonald's. We are having chicken divan for dinner with a small salad. I drank about two quarts of water and had a couple of cups of coffee so far.

When I weighed myself at the gym today, I was 207....hmm, seem to be headed in the wrong direction. Anyway, I sat in the steam room for about 20 minutes after my workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 15, 2012, 06:44:25 AM
it's normal to gain some weight when starting a lifting program (due to tissue inflammation)... it will pass

you can also look for ways to reduce your overall stress through meditation, going to a comedy club, watching a funny movie or playing a relaxing game of cards (whatever works for you)
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Post by: Donny on November 15, 2012, 07:05:28 AM
well later tonight i will go for a run with a friend. Running around the streets you see some funny things at times... ;D
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 15, 2012, 05:44:40 PM
Did not go to the gym today. Between taking my wife to two doctor's appointments, I climbed up on the roof to get the leaves off and then clean the gutters. My roof is a 6 in 12 pitch, shake roof. I have tie-on cleats for walking on the roof, so as not to slip, fall off and break something. This is not exactly the same as doing cardio but all that up and down the ladder and climbing on a slanted surface puts a lot of stress on areas you wouldn't think it would.  The roof and gutters are done now. Tomorrow I have fall yard clean up if the weather holds. It was dry and sunny today. In Oregon at this time of year that means you do fall cleanup, otherwise you'll be doing it in the rain which is not fun.

I tried to hire this job out this morning since my neighbors had people doing this work for them today. Unfortunately, the fellow doing their job does not work on shake roofs because they are too slippery....and he looked to be somewhere around 35 year old. Am I nuts for doing this myself? I think before next year I will install some way to tie myself off so I if I fall at least I'll dangle from a rope and not hit the ground.

Breakfast: small OJ and a cup of yogurt.

Mid morning: Potato bagel with butter and two cups of black coffee.

Lunch: a small bowl of vegetarian chili in the hospital cafeteria while my wife was getting a mammogram.

Dinner: Don't know what my wife is fixing yet. I saw a box of Rice-A-Roni on the counter. -Let you know later tonight or tomorrow.

The Rice-A-Roni was a red herring. We had corn, french cut green beans with almonds, Polish sausage, tomato and artichoke salad with, Stilton cheese crumbles and blue cheese dressing. I had a glass of Merlot. Right now, I am drinking a cup of Chai tea.

I soaked in the tub for about a half hour to ease the ache from all I did today. Going to the gym to workout would have been less taxing.
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Post by: Donny on November 16, 2012, 01:21:21 AM
you are quite right some jobs in the Garden and what you were doing are a workout too. I remember one job i did about 1995 was erecting scaffolding and that was a hell of a workout. climbing like a monkey all day and passing boards upwards it really hit your shoulders and back. It was summer and the painters were out big time so we had lots of work...funny thing is i do not really like heights and a few times i was living on my nerves,, ;D still needed the work and that was that. Today is shoulders and arms. I might also do Incline Db curls as i have not done them for a while... decisions...decisions.
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Post by: Donny on November 16, 2012, 07:32:03 AM
....so i will now go for an Hour walk for Fresh air and give my knees a rest from running. shoulders and arms were trained in my Home Gym. Feeling very motivated Today, i like to go for long walks too because i am alone with my thoughts...till later.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 17, 2012, 04:30:57 PM
Did not get to the gym yesterday because I decided to take advantage of it not raining and clean up more leaves which covered the ground out front. So, I worked in the yard for about 3 hours.

Did not go to the gym today because it is my day off. And believe it or not, after climbing all over my roof on Thursday and then raking leaves for 3 hours on Friday, I am really sore. Guess I am turning into a wuss.
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Post by: Donny on November 18, 2012, 04:47:15 AM
Did not get to the gym yesterday because I decided to take advantage of it not raining and clean up more leaves which covered the ground out front. So, I worked in the yard for about 3 hours.

Did not go to the gym today because it is my day off. And believe it or not, after climbing all over my roof on Thursday and then raking leaves for 3 hours on Friday, I am really sore. Guess I am turning into a wuss.
nah...good workout and you no doubt kept your wife happy.. ;) I will have a quite day today as it's a rest day and it's pissing down with rain outside. I will later jump rope and do some crunches.
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Post by: njflex on November 18, 2012, 07:19:43 AM
intense leg workout sat,,,,leg presses ,,hack squats,,walking db lunges ...extensions,,,hams stiff legged deads supersetted with lying leg curls and calves standing calf raise superset with leg press calf extensions..
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Post by: Donny on November 18, 2012, 07:45:31 AM
that is a very intensive workout..good drills ;D
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Post by: njflex on November 18, 2012, 07:49:47 AM
that is a very intensive workout..good drills ;D
thanks,,, ;D ;)
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 18, 2012, 08:53:58 AM
nah...good workout and you no doubt kept your wife happy.. ;) I will have a quite day today as it's a rest day and it's pissing down with rain outside. I will later jump rope and do some crunches.

Ha, ha. My wife doesn't pay any attention to the leaves on the ground or the roof. I've always been the groundskeeper and the maintenance guy around the house. What makes my wife happy is taking her out to breakfast, a movie or reading to her. She's pretty easy to please.

It is raining here where I live too. -Supposed to rain all week according to the weather report.
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Post by: WOOO on November 18, 2012, 03:56:46 PM
Ha, ha. My wife doesn't pay any attention to the leaves on the ground or the roof. I've always been the groundskeeper and the maintenance guy around the house. What makes my wife happy is taking her out to breakfast, a movie or reading to her. She's pretty easy to please.

It is raining here where I live too. -Supposed to rain all week according to the weather report.

i like running in the rain... not sure why because i hate walking in it.... but if it's raining on one of the 2 days where i'm planning to go for a run then i'm a happy man... just me and the sound of the rain drops
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Post by: Donny on November 19, 2012, 02:27:47 AM
i like running in the rain... not sure why because i hate walking in it.... but if it's raining on one of the 2 days where i'm planning to go for a run then i'm a happy man... just me and the sound of the rain drops
Wooo you are hardcore. Well i do myself and even in snow. Once you get warmed up you do not feel the cold. Remember doing boxing training in the Army running in the snow wearing army boots. looked funny tracksuit and army boots but it really got you fit. We run through the forests and over Tank ranges and our training was hard but primitive, Wooo you would have loved it..just your style. So today i will start of my chest / back workout with back, sternum pull-ups ala Gironda. Normaly i start with chest but today i will change it for interest
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Post by: Donny on November 19, 2012, 09:14:35 AM
Tonight was very hard. I had to drop weight on my incline Db presses and drop 1 set from each ex. Instead of 4 sets i did 3...i put this down to me now eating better and cutting calories and junk food. Went for my run direct after weight training and i knew it would hurt. Half way round i just went into a state of zen, i canīt explain it i just detach my mind from the bodily pain. I got to my favourite hill on the way back...itīs sickening because it rises..and rises... i have a name for it, "Bastard". I swear i was detached from the pain. i made it. I will shower and eat now and flop on my sofa.. ;D
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Post by: WOOO on November 19, 2012, 03:52:48 PM
Tonight was very hard. I had to drop weight on my incline Db presses and drop 1 set from each ex. Instead of 4 sets i did 3...i put this down to me now eating better and cutting calories and junk food. Went for my run direct after weight training and i knew it would hurt. Half way round i just went into a state of zen, i canīt explain it i just detach my mind from the bodily pain. I got to my favourite hill on the way back...itīs sickening because it rises..and rises... i have a name for it, "Bastard". I swear i was detached from the pain. i made it. I will shower and eat now and flop on my sofa.. ;D

sounds like fun! never worry about dropping sets or weight... a long as the muscle feels exhausted then you're good to go
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Post by: njflex on November 19, 2012, 06:45:03 PM
i like drops did fdb press warmup then 3 sets,,incline db 10 reps with drop till failure ,,seated chest with pin stack,,bodyweight dips,,finish cable crossovers..
tris supersetted smith close grip with lying db extensions ,,pushdowns and seated tri dip machine normal set ,rest,partner went,,abs to finish,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 19, 2012, 11:35:49 PM
I thought about not posting today because I did not make it to the gym again. However, it seems to me one of the aspects of being mature is that there are ever more things we have to deal with which can impact our commitment to working out.

Today I drove in driving rain 40 miles to Oregon's state capitol because a corporation I chair had our monthly board meeting. As chair, I am obligated to show up for meetings. And as for the drive, other board members show up from all over the state for these board meetings, so I have no excuse for not attending.

My plan was to go directly to the gym before coming home tonight. That did not work out as planned. My sister who lives in Salem, OR has been going through some difficulty. She called me crying into my cell just as I was headed back to Portland. So I literally flipped a U and drove back  to comfort her. By the time I got home it was dinner time and I was worn out.

Sometimes I wish my life were as uncomplicated as it was when I was in my 20's. In those days, I was able to be so self-absorbed that nothing got in the way of a workout. That is not so much the case these days.

Hopefully, tomorrow's report will be more on topic.

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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 02:15:49 AM
I thought about not posting today because I did not make it to the gym again. However, it seems to me one of the aspects of being mature is that there are ever more things we have to deal with which can impact our commitment to working out.

Today I drove in driving rain 40 miles to Oregon's state capitol because a corporation I chair had our monthly board meeting. As chair, I am obligated to show up for meetings. And as for the drive, other board members show up from all over the state for these board meetings, so I have no excuse for not attending.

My plan was to go directly to the gym before coming home tonight. That did not work out as planned. My sister who lives in Salem, OR has been going through some difficulty. She called me crying into my cell just as I was headed back to Portland. So I literally flipped a U and drove back  to comfort her. By the time I got home it was dinner time and I was worn out.

Sometimes I wish my life were as uncomplicated as it was when I was in my 20's. In those days, I was able to be so self-absorbed that nothing got in the way of a workout. That is not so much the case these days.

Hopefully, tomorrow's report will be more on topic.


Family comes first, you are a good man Prime...a man of integrity.
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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 02:29:09 AM
Today i will rest...well maybe jump rope and some abs.. ;) I have a couple of arm pads for tai boxing( i just use them for punching and kicking training, as i have no where to hang a boxing bag)Gives a nice workout keeps my shoulders loose and i have to admit my chest is sore today although i did less weight and sets but i did more reps so maybe it was good for me. Any of you guys jump rope too? I have a leather rope that i have had for years.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 20, 2012, 01:30:48 PM
Today i will rest...well maybe jump rope and some abs.. ;) I have a couple of arm pads for tai boxing( i just use them for punching and kicking training, as i have no where to hang a boxing bag)Gives a nice workout keeps my shoulders loose and i have to admit my chest is sore today although i did less weight and sets but i did more reps so maybe it was good for me. Any of you guys jump rope too? I have a leather rope that i have had for years.

I have not jumped rope in years. I should give it a try. It would afford me the opportunity to get some cardio in at home. As it stands the only home equipment I own is a treadmill and that just gets boring after awhile.
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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 01:53:10 PM
I have not jumped rope in years. I should give it a try. It would afford me the opportunity to get some cardio in at home. As it stands the only home equipment I own is a treadmill and that just gets boring after awhile.
I like to do it as a warm up and when i do not run. I prefer to run but it is an alternative if the weather is bad. Good thing is my calfes get a workout as i wrote before they are a weak point !
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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 01:55:50 PM
play your favourite music and itīs fun.. ;)
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Post by: njflex on November 20, 2012, 01:59:22 PM
I like to do it as a warm up and when i do not run. I prefer to run but it is an alternative if the weather is bad. Good thing is my calfes get a workout as i wrote before they are a weak point !

HIT EM HARD I POSTED A GOOD BURN ONE UP A FEW POSTS UP TRY IT DONNY,,,
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Post by: Donny on November 20, 2012, 02:23:57 PM

HIT EM HARD I POSTED A GOOD BURN ONE UP A FEW POSTS UP TRY IT DONNY,,,
I will on my leg workout thanks.
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Post by: njflex on November 20, 2012, 05:53:06 PM
here are 2 contest pics 1992 and same poses kinda 2012 ,,,,
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 20, 2012, 07:42:23 PM
here are 2 contest pics 1992 and same poses kinda 2012 ,,,,

I can see almost no difference between your then and now photos, which is a compliment.
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 20, 2012, 07:46:38 PM
intense leg workout sat,,,,leg presses ,,hack squats,,walking db lunges ...extensions,,,hams stiff legged deads supersetted with lying leg curls and calves standing calf raise superset with leg press calf extensions..

I do lunges up and down the sidewalk in front of my house. The distance is probably a little over 100 ft. We live on a hill, so lunging down the hill hits the muscles in a different way then lunging back up the hill. What I like about doing these is that the trigger for me is simply going out to get the paper or the mail. My daughter thinks it freaks the neighbors out somewhat....like I care.

Being a senior citizen, the last thing I want is a saggy ass. Lunges help to prevent this, I'm told.


As for my daily report, I got on the treadmill for a half hour today at home. I just did not feel like driving to the gym.
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Post by: njflex on November 20, 2012, 07:53:42 PM
I can see almost no difference between your then and now photos, which is a compliment.
thanx prime,,,,i love training,,eating balanced diet not sticking to a 'bbing'only lifestyle,,,
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Post by: Donny on November 21, 2012, 03:00:45 AM
thanx prime,,,,i love training,,eating balanced diet not sticking to a 'bbing'only lifestyle,,,
a good attitude. always strive for a well balanced life... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2012, 03:12:22 AM
so on Saturday there is am open day at a martial arts centre in Hannover and i will go and look around. I think i will look into escrima a bit more. I like the idea of empty hand techniques and that every day objects can be used..like a pen or pencil. It is an all round system. so today i will take a few ideas from njflex and incorperate them in my leg workout today. I used to hate leg workouts like most people but i am now getting in to it more. I feel very relaxed today and very motivated...have a few things to do first and will not drive in my car but will walk and get some fresh air and the walk will get some blood flowing in my legs...ready for some squats... ;)
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Post by: njflex on November 21, 2012, 08:58:14 AM
so on Saturday there is am open day at a martial arts centre in Hannover and i will go and look around. I think i will look into escrima a bit more. I like the idea of empty hand techniques and that every day objects can be used..like a pen or pencil. It is an all round system. so today i will take a few ideas from njflex and incorperate them in my leg workout today. I used to hate leg workouts like most people but i am now getting in to it more. I feel very relaxed today and very motivated...have a few things to do first and will not drive in my car but will walk and get some fresh air and the walk will get some blood flowing in my legs...ready for some squats... ;)
as painful,and pump you get nothing is more exciting than an intense leg workout,,no need to throw up like its lead to believe,,i've gotten queasy on high rep/curcuit supersets for legs but thats a given,,,,when u finish its like your lower body is thankful its over..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 21, 2012, 11:36:39 AM
as painful,and pump you get nothing is more exciting than an intense leg workout,,no need to throw up like its lead to believe,,i've gotten queasy on high rep/curcuit supersets for legs but thats a given,,,,when u finish its like your lower body is thankful its over..
well today i was a bit faint headed... my lower body was hammerd and walking down the stairs to my car i felt it...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 21, 2012, 11:53:38 AM
well today i was a bit faint headed... my lower body was hammerd and walking down the stairs to my car i felt it...lol
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NICE,,,,
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Post by: Primemuscle on November 21, 2012, 12:13:48 PM
well today i was a bit faint headed... my lower body was hammerd and walking down the stairs to my car i felt it...lol

I thought you said you weren't driving today. Changed your mind, I guess.
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Post by: Donny on November 21, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
I thought you said you weren't driving today. Changed your mind, I guess.
no my wife came home with shopping and went down to get the grocerie bags.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 21, 2012, 04:45:36 PM
no my wife came home with shopping and went down to get the grocerie bags.

Fun....carrying groceries upstairs. Fortunately, our garage is attached and is only one step down from the rest of the house. Groceries are a snap. This is a good thing because my wife buys groceries like she plans to feed and army. Of course someone carries them to the car for her and I bring them in the house.

If I walked to the grocery store for everything I needed even if I used some kind of carrying device, I would be skinny. The nearest store is about a mile away and it is all uphill to get there. The next nearest store in down the hill and about 2 miles away. Bringing the groceries home would be a killer.

Another day and another missed opportunity to workout at the gym. I was all set to take off for the gym when my wife asked if I could help her make a pumpkin chiffon pie. The result being that I ended up making it for her. -Not a lot of work, but time consuming. Also, I spent a good part of the day going everywhere she might have been in the last couple of weeks, looking for her cane. She left it somewhere and cannot remember where. This was a special cane I bought for her. It is wooden, handmade, painted yellow with multicolored flowers all over it. I hope whoever has it now, enjoys it. Looks like my wife will be getting a new cane for Christmas. It was expensive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: WOOO on November 21, 2012, 06:55:03 PM
never miss a good opportunity to make and EAT pie...
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Post by: Donny on November 22, 2012, 04:28:18 AM
never miss a good opportunity to make and EAT pie...
i am getting hungry reading this... ;D well i love steak pie. Today is a quite day for me ..i have some paper work to do that i keep puting off..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 22, 2012, 11:27:43 AM
never miss a good opportunity to make and EAT pie...

Unfortunately, the pie was awful. It was a Paula Dean recipe. Not surprisingly, it is way too sweet tasting. I am going to go buy a pumpkin pie today. What is really bad is that we doubled the recipe and gave one pie away to some friends who live up the street. Who knows, they might like it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 23, 2012, 01:48:44 AM
so today is shoulders and arms... I might replace BB press with seated DB press... Pinch grips for grip strength....shame i do not have Woooīs Ab wheel i am game to try that. I have a DB rod at home old style with a revolving collar you can remove and i suppose i could centrally load it with a 5 kg plate... ;)
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Post by: Donny on November 23, 2012, 09:44:10 AM
so trained and just got back from a run...rained a bit but was not cold.
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Post by: Donny on November 25, 2012, 04:29:41 AM
Today i will do a bit of Ab training and have a relaxing Day. I will use my Incline Bench which i have not used for a while...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 25, 2012, 04:35:50 AM
with a few hanging leg raises....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 25, 2012, 04:40:31 AM
 ;D
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Post by: Donny on November 25, 2012, 04:53:37 AM
also like hanging knee raises from my chinning bar...
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Post by: oldtimer1 on November 26, 2012, 03:19:36 AM
I worked legs yesterday.
leg press 2x12
squats 2x9 then 1 x 1
hacks 1 x 10
leg extensions 2 x 20
seated leg curls 2 x 15
standing leg curls 2 x 10

side bends with one dumbbell 1 x 15
hanging leg raise 2 x max
hip ups 2 x 20 (on back legs up raising hips. Good lower ab contractions)
Pulley crunches 2 x 25

leg press calf 2 x 25
standing calf 2 x 15

neck work
I felt close to death after I finished. Had a tough time walking up the stairs from my basement gym. Looked at my gym mirror at the grey haired old guy looking back and felt I can't slack off cause of age. Hard to look at my old work out journals of my youth and see what I used to do. Tomorrow a two mile run on my off day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2012, 03:27:00 AM
solid workout...keep at it. what split are you doing at the moment?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2012, 05:54:49 AM
so today i just did....    

Parallel Bar Dips 4x max
Push ups 4x max
Flat bench flyes

Close grip chins 3x max
Barbell Rows 4x10
One arm Dumbbell Rows 3x10
Dumbbell Shrugs 3x12

On the push ups i used books on my hands and i wore a weight belt today and felt much better on the BB rows... i have not wore a belt in a long time.. so i will now go for a long fast walk. Tomorrow i will run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 26, 2012, 07:31:09 AM
NICE WORKOUTS FROM BOTH OF U,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 26, 2012, 07:57:56 AM
NICE WORKOUTS FROM BOTH OF U,,,,,
Thanks Bro.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 26, 2012, 09:26:29 AM
solid workout...keep at it. what split are you doing at the moment?
I change like the wind. The best success I have ever had was with this split. Day one: Chest and arms. Day Two: Legs. Day three: Off or cardio. Day four: Back and delts. Day five: Off or cardio. Repeat cycle. So the entire body gets hit in a five day cycle. If I miss a day and it turns into a six day cycle no problem. I probably needed the rest anyway.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2012, 03:31:11 AM
After doing close grip chins (parallel grip) and lifting high as possible my Teres minor and major area are sore today..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 27, 2012, 05:48:26 AM
After doing close grip chins (parallel grip) and lifting high as possible my Teres minor and major area are sore today..
I DO CHINS BEGINNING EVERY WORKOUT FOR BACK,,,12/15 REPS 3 SETS TO GET COOKING ALL GRIPS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 27, 2012, 09:23:03 AM
I DO CHINS BEGINNING EVERY WORKOUT FOR BACK,,,12/15 REPS 3 SETS TO GET COOKING ALL GRIPS
yes hitting every grip will give your back a great workout.. as JPM said before a muscle cannot be isolated but i believe you can throw more stress to an area with a change in grip or even just a bodymovement. Look at the chins we are now seeing in fitness. Kipping.. a wider variation of cheating?? Chins now being used in Parks in "Ghetto Workouts" moving the body left to right in chins. The list goes on.. i think you have to keep an open mind and always improve your "game".. in sport it is so so why not muscle building?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on November 27, 2012, 05:09:13 PM
I use the usual pronate and suplinate grip in chins. I recently got d ring handles that attach to the chin bar. It really gives a different feel to pull ups in that your hand can revolve in any way it naturally wants to go. I find it makes the pull up harder in that it takes away some stability but it adds another variation to pull ups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2012, 03:30:35 AM
I use the usual pronate and suplinate grip in chins. I recently got d ring handles that attach to the chin bar. It really gives a different feel to pull ups in that your hand can revolve in any way it naturally wants to go. I find it makes the pull up harder in that it takes away some stability but it adds another variation to pull ups.
Good post... yes itīs the small things that can really make a difference and your workout can be much more exciting and challenging. I will train shoulders + arms today instead of legs because i will now train day on day off and the extra rest between shoulders+ arms and Chest/back i need. Training shoulder+arms Friday and then chest/back sunday would be too much.I think itīs about time i used my preacher bench too just to throw a new move in there... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2012, 03:34:00 AM
Primemuscle.....we have not forgot you my friend... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 28, 2012, 01:43:03 PM
Primemuscle.....we have not forgot you my friend... :)

Thanks.

Clearly I don't have the dedication needed right now to commit to working out with the intensity you do. Shamefully, I have made more promises to myself to get to the gym then I have kept over the past two weeks. -no excuses!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 28, 2012, 02:00:57 PM
I am lucky because i have What i need at home . So no traveling and its easy for me to fit it in
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 28, 2012, 05:37:01 PM
I am waiting until I become mature enough, before I can post in here.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 28, 2012, 06:10:27 PM
I am waiting until I become mature enough, before I can post in here.   ;D

Are you speaking of emotional maturity or chronological maturity? Emotional maturity eludes many folk indefinitely. As for chronological maturity....one can always suggest you are as old as you feel.

If you are still working out with the same intensity that you did when you were in your teens and twenties, this might not be the thread for you. However, if you feel like you reached a level in your development where you find it beneficial to modify your workout and diet routine, then feel free to share those experiences.

I don't think posting here will result in you being perceived as being any more mature than you probably are.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 28, 2012, 06:25:34 PM
Are you speaking of emotional maturity or chronological maturity? Emotional maturity eludes many folk indefinitely. As for chronological maturity....one can always suggest you are as old as you feel.

If you are still working out with the same intensity that you did when you were in your teens and twenties, this might not be the thread for you. However, if you feel like you reached a level in your development where you find it beneficial to modify your workout and diet routine, then feel free to share those experiences.

I don't think posting here will result in you being perceived as being any more mature than you probably are.
It was a joke PM. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on November 29, 2012, 12:48:44 AM
It was a joke PM. 

And my response to you was also written "tongue in cheek".  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 29, 2012, 05:45:27 AM
Nice to see Booty Baby has joined us... today is a fast run( well fast for me ) and i will do some double crunches and leg raises on the floor hands under the buttocks to support my lower back. I like to do leg raises opening the legs and closing them,then up and down alternate and then inwards and outwards in a circle.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on November 29, 2012, 07:04:34 AM
I am waiting until I become mature enough, before I can post in here.   ;D
remember your only young once but you can be immature forever. words i live by. 8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on November 29, 2012, 07:48:05 PM
did delts today started with 3 heavy working sets fr press,,then did the run the rack side laterals 8-10mreps per dbell 35,30,25,20,15  2x around incredible pump...bent over cable rear laterals,,,db press 2x to finish,,,shrugs with diamond shape bar u stand inside and handles on side.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 29, 2012, 07:58:16 PM
I am just reading.  I can't really contribute until I am back to weight training, which will be on thursday when my nose is post op 6 weeks.  I am really looking forward to training properly again.  I have almost given in a couple of times but I won't because I always do something 100% and I want a full recovery from this nose op.  Then it's on.   8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 29, 2012, 08:09:30 PM
remember your only young once but you can be immature forever. words i live by. 8)
Seriously I hate immaturity.  Wise words funk51. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 30, 2012, 02:44:57 AM
did delts today started with 3 heavy working sets fr press,,then did the run the rack side laterals 8-10mreps per dbell 35,30,25,20,15  2x around incredible pump...bent over cable rear laterals,,,db press 2x to finish,,,shrugs with diamond shape bar u stand inside and handles on side.
Think you mean a "trap Bar"...nice workout. very intensive and the fruits of your labours are evident in the picture.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 30, 2012, 02:46:14 AM
I am just reading.  I can't really contribute until I am back to weight training, which will be on thursday when my nose is post op 6 weeks.  I am really looking forward to training properly again.  I have almost given in a couple of times but I won't because I always do something 100% and I want a full recovery from this nose op.  Then it's on.   8)
look after yourself booty.. your health comes first :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 30, 2012, 03:01:18 AM
So I went to the gym tonight where my best friend was working.  I chatted for a while with her and everytime I looked the treadmills were taken so my friend said to me "do you want to do arms with me?".  I didn't want to do tricep dips on the bar/machine so instead I began to train legs on my own.  Well it felt like a drug (not that I would know, haha) as soon as I did my first set of adductor machine.  I only did two sets per exercise except for the last exercise (standing calf raise) as I developed this strange pressure behind the eyes and nose and head and so stopped at 8 reps.  I did high reps with medium weight for the first set and then added more weight for the next set.

Leg adductor x2 sets
Laying leg curls x2 sets
thigh extension x2 sets
seated leg curls x2 sets
cable kickbacks (for glutes) each leg x2 sets
standing calf raises x 1 set

Finished off with treadmill for 20 mins only due to weird pressure behind eyes,nose and head.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 30, 2012, 03:02:53 AM
look after yourself booty.. your health comes first :-*
I will Donny and agreed, health first always. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on November 30, 2012, 03:04:57 AM
nice booty. be careful though... :) good you never did any heavy leg press or squats because of the pressure you felt..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on November 30, 2012, 03:12:45 AM
nice booty. be careful though... :) good you never did any heavy leg press or squats because of the pressure you felt..
I know and my best friend was trying to get me to do leg press, but I told her that it would put too much strain on my nose.  I just did isolation exercises but I maxed out with reps, went for the burn.  I will be sore tomorrow or the next day...not looking forward to the DOMS. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2012, 06:53:13 AM
Today i think i will go and swim a few lengths. Have not been swimming for a while. I will at the end do some leg raises at the side(elbows holding me up on the side of the pool) and do some hanging leg raises in the water..  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 01, 2012, 06:56:32 AM
Today i think i will go and swim a few lengths. Have not been swimming for a while. I will at the end do some leg raises at the side(elbows holding me up on the side of the pool) and do some hanging leg raises in the water..  ;D
whats ur stats donny hght,weight,bf,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2012, 08:20:21 AM
well i am 5 7" and weigh 75 kg(at the moment and was more heavy). I am not sure what body fat i have but i think about 10%. it changes because i run a lot too. Although with weight training i am solid enough.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 01, 2012, 10:59:13 AM
well i am 5 7" and weigh 75 kg(at the moment and was more heavy). I am not sure what body fat i have but i think about 10%. it changes because i run a lot too. Although with weight training i am solid enough.
we're about same height i might be 5'8 lol   break down kg to weight i'm dumb american lol,,,i weigh around 185 to 190 ranges ,,,,i had killer leg wkout today  leg press did 4 plates per,then 5,6 ,,then 2 sets of 7 plates ,,,close feet squat finished 315 for 10 last set,,,lunges changed it up did stairs 50 lb db went up steps skipped over 1 so 2 steps up per then one way down ran down 3x around my heart was jumping on those,,,extensions ,,,,then leg curl lying and stiff legged deads  got up to 235 for 8/10 there pumped hams,,,,calves 2 exerscises,,,thanx for stopping at pic thread love chest training but delts have come up last few yrs balanced off i was all chest for long time,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2012, 11:26:46 AM
I am not sure but i think itīs maybe double.. not sure my bodyweight is i think in lbs 150.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: B_B_C on December 01, 2012, 11:57:36 AM
I am lucky because i have What i need at home . So no traveling and its easy for me to fit it in

oh i wish it was that easy
a while I made a stab at a serious home gym, repaired an old shed, nearly broke my back with the concrete mixing etc, already had the olympic discs and bar and then made a lifting frame from old ESB (telegraph) poles.
didnt have enough energy after that to catchop with previous form. Going to a gym else where has a lot of things going for it (though none nearby have decent free weights)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 01, 2012, 12:04:44 PM
All you need is a barbell which you have and a bench and squat stands. you can then fulfill all the requirements , push,pull, squat.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 01, 2012, 05:29:16 PM
well i am 5 7" and weigh 75 kg(at the moment and was more heavy). I am not sure what body fat i have but i think about 10%. it changes because i run a lot too. Although with weight training i am solid enough.

75 kg = 165.3 lbs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 02, 2012, 08:12:22 AM
Question for you older guys who have had back pain problems in the past. I am 32 and this last happened when I was in my early 20s. I have some problems that are not serious enough to require any surgery but the disc has some damage and sometimes I get that sciatica type pain.

Have you had it and how did you adjust your training?

For example.... I don't want to do say switch to leg presses because I feel that squats will actually help. I just lighten the weight and do more reps and play with the tempo.

MDN
 

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 02, 2012, 08:32:07 AM
sorry to hear about your back. I myself have never had a back problem.. I would use  pre-exhaust on my quads : Leg extension+Squats and Leg curls+ Romanian Deadlifts( if you can do them if not Hyperextensions) Dumbbell squats and lunges work too. I would train my Abs hard too and the obliques. Any other Mature trainers got any better suggestions to help mdn250 ?  I take it we are talking about your lower back?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 02, 2012, 08:34:09 AM
sorry to hear about your back. I myself have never had a back problem.. I would use  pre-exhaust on my quads : Leg extension+Squats and Leg curls+ Romanian Deadlifts( if you can do them if not Hyperextensions) Dumbbell squats and lunges work too. I would train my Abs hard too and the obliques. Any other Mature trainers got any better suggestions to help mdn250 ?  I take it we are talking about your lower back?
same advice i'd give,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 02, 2012, 08:48:56 AM
sorry to hear about your back. I myself have never had a back problem.. I would use  pre-exhaust on my quads : Leg extension+Squats and Leg curls+ Romanian Deadlifts( if you can do them if not Hyperextensions) Dumbbell squats and lunges work too. I would train my Abs hard too and the obliques. Any other Mature trainers got any better suggestions to help mdn250 ?  I take it we are talking about your lower back?

Thanks that sounds like a plan, I haven't done lunges in years that with the new front squats at a higher rep range could be a switch that I need. I am training again after a few years off. I was so happy to train again I probably just overdid it and caused it to flareup. I will get the Active Release Therapy from the chiro if it doesn't go away soon. That is an amazing therapy! But expensive :)

MDN
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 02, 2012, 10:42:57 AM
In the past when I would have back pain, it was due to my "putting it out." My DO would adjust it for me and I'd be fine until the next time it went out. Interestingly enough, this never happened when I was working out at the gym, but rather from some small movement while at home or work. Exercise actually helped correct this problem.

About a year ago my back went out, or so I thought. I went to the doctor for an adjustment. He told me my back was perfectly aligned. I got an x-ray which showed that I had degenerating disks in my back or basically arthritis. six weeks of physical therapy and using a Tens every day on it got it back in shape. I've had no problem with it since. Much of the physical therapy was exercises for the back to build the muscles supporting the spine in that area.

As for weight lifting, while my back was compromised, I didn't lift weights or workout at all except for the exercises I did each day as prescribed by the physical therapist. Once my back had recovered, I got the go ahead to return to my regular workout routine. The only cautionary advice was to always use good form. I was not given any restrictions as to which exercises to do or not do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 02, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
Thanks that sounds like a plan, I haven't done lunges in years that with the new front squats at a higher rep range could be a switch that I need. I am training again after a few years off. I was so happy to train again I probably just overdid it and caused it to flareup. I will get the Active Release Therapy from the chiro if it doesn't go away soon. That is an amazing therapy! But expensive :)

MDN

well keep us informed and let us know how you structure your workout and your results. Your advice and experience could help others and we have some great guys on here.. and good to see Primemuscle  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: B_B_C on December 02, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Question for you older guys who have had back pain problems in the past. I am 32 and this last happened when I was in my early 20s. I have some problems that are not serious enough to require any surgery but the disc has some damage and sometimes I get that sciatica type pain.
.

get someone knowledgable (not a gym buddy or rat) to look at your posture and maybe check out how you are standing and how you place your feet  - whither splayed out in every day use (as distinct from a good squatting position) Almost all back problems come from some muscle mis use some time or other. you are at an age where correction reaps greater rewards than later. Consider some yoga - at least enough to get more body position concious. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2012, 05:21:21 AM
so today i was a bit pushed for time and hit chest only with some calfes...

Flat Bench press 4x8
Flat DB Flyes      4x10+
Incline DB press 4x10
Incline DB Flyes  4x10+
One legged DB Calf raises 5x 15-20 / I also did 1 set of max push-ups. On the incline DB press i rotated my hands during the movement.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 03, 2012, 06:52:43 AM
Good chest routine Donny.  I am going to train chest tomorrow.  Will get a train in tomorrow and then another on thursday which will be 6 weeks since my op and my nose bones will be at their full strength.  I will also be able to wear sunnies which going without is killing me here with the glare and being summer. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2012, 07:02:59 AM
Good chest routine Donny.  I am going to train chest tomorrow.  Will get a train in tomorrow and then another on thursday which will be 6 weeks since my op and my nose bones will be at their full strength.  I will also be able to wear sunnies which going without is killing me here with the glare and being summer. 
Thanks...in about an hour i will go for a run...its snowing here...  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 03, 2012, 07:05:36 AM
Thanks...in about an hour i will go for a run...its snowing here...  ;D
You lucky thing....I want snow.   :(  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2012, 07:19:40 AM
You lucky thing....I want snow.   :(  
just shit for driving and when its too deep for running shoes i will dig out my Boots.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 03, 2012, 07:29:16 AM
just shit for driving and when its too deep for running shoes i will dig out my Boots.
I wouldn't like driving in snow. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 03, 2012, 09:32:30 AM
get someone knowledgable (not a gym buddy or rat) to look at your posture and maybe check out how you are standing and how you place your feet  - whither splayed out in every day use (as distinct from a good squatting position) Almost all back problems come from some muscle mis use some time or other. you are at an age where correction reaps greater rewards than later. Consider some yoga - at least enough to get more body position concious. 


Makes a lot of sense. Thank you. I actually have been considering some basic yoga. Since I first had this pain 10 years ago in my early 20's. The ART (active release therapy) from the chiro took care of everything. The chiro worked for Dr Durlan Castro's practice so of course they worked on bodybuilders and athletes daily. He had mentioned that the constant injections leave you with scar tissue and that MIGHT also cause irritation to the nerves. Made sense. I always worked on stretching after that and of course when I got lazy and didn't stretch for a month or so...bam.

MDN
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 03, 2012, 09:55:46 AM
Makes a lot of sense. Thank you. I actually have been considering some basic yoga. Since I first had this pain 10 years ago in my early 20's. The ART (active release therapy) from the chiro took care of everything. The chiro worked for Dr Durlan Castro's practice so of course they worked on bodybuilders and athletes daily. He had mentioned that the constant injections leave you with scar tissue and that MIGHT also cause irritation to the nerves. Made sense. I always worked on stretching after that and of course when I got lazy and didn't stretch for a month or so...bam.

MDN

Wooo swears by Yoga.. i liked Aikido with the throwing and rolls/breakfalls.. saved my ass one time, i was running and my shoe caught an uneven stone on the street pavement. I rolled perfect and was in a circular motion on my feet. The rolls are different to Judo. I am thinking of starting again and still have my Hakama. It kept my body very supple... although Yoga i agree would be better for you( in my opinion )...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 04, 2012, 04:39:19 AM
I trained back instead of chest. 

One arm dumbell rowes (each side) x 4 sets
Lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
seated rowes x 4 sets

Finished off with 4 sets of rear delt flyes on machine and 4 sets of db bicep curls. 
Nose felt great, very little swelling occurred from training which was awesome. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 04, 2012, 05:33:09 AM
I trained back instead of chest. 

One arm dumbell rowes (each side) x 4 sets
Lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
seated rowes x 4 sets

Finished off with 4 sets of rear delt flyes on machine and 4 sets of db bicep curls. 
Nose felt great, very little swelling occurred from training which was awesome. 
nice balanced workout.. good to hear your nose is getting better. Today i got myself a new pair of running shoes my other ones were wrecked and did not provide much protection for my knees. Felt it on my knees last night after my run. Got some quick release collars too for my ez bar. seated rows i liked too Booty baby with a close grip in the gym. Today i will train Back too...

close grip chin ups 3x max
Barbell Rows         4x10
Deadlifts               4x 6-8
Dumbbell shrugs    3x 10+

I will add Deadlifts in there instead of one arm DB rows. The combination of BB rows and Deadlifts is very taxing.. I will round this off with some crunches (feet on bench) and some knee-ins
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 05, 2012, 05:55:52 AM
so today i will do legs..

Squats 4x10
leg ext 4x12-15
leg curls4x12-15
DB lunges 3x 10
calf raises 5x15+ (3 weigthed with DB and then 2 sets free hand higher reps)

later afterwards a run. No stiff Deads today as i did Standard deads yesterday and feel it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 05, 2012, 06:12:16 AM
so today i will do legs..

Squats 4x10
leg ext 4x12-15
leg curls4x12-15
DB lunges 3x 10
calf raises 5x15+ (3 weigthed with DB and then 2 sets free hand higher reps)

later afterwards a run. No stiff Deads today as i did Standard deads yesterday and feel it.
You'll be okay to do squats after deadlifts yesterday Donny?  Squats is a whole body exercise...it really uses the back too especially lower back. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 05, 2012, 06:19:15 AM
yes i will be ok as i am not lifting massive weight. Itīs more running later i am botherd about because i will feel it in my legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 05, 2012, 06:45:01 AM
yes i will be ok as i am not lifting massive weight. Itīs more running later i am botherd about because i will feel it in my legs.
I just can't train back and legs in a row.  I find it hard to to brisk walking for the first 20 mins if I have DOMS in the legs, but then after that I am fine.  I will go harder next leg work out...add in more sets too.  I didn't experience any DOMS from my last leg workout except for the inner thighs.  My legs seem to be able to take alot of volume. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 05, 2012, 10:44:23 AM
I just can't train back and legs in a row.  I find it hard to to brisk walking for the first 20 mins if I have DOMS in the legs, but then after that I am fine.  I will go harder next leg work out...add in more sets too.  I didn't experience any DOMS from my last leg workout except for the inner thighs.  My legs seem to be able to take alot of volume. 
well i made my run... was not all that bad, just had to watch because the streets are a bit slidey.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 05, 2012, 06:16:58 PM
Today I had lunch with my good friend Pat. It is interesting that when he and his partner get together with my wife and I, Pat and I hardly have a chance to talk. Today we talked about everything and anything for almost 4 hours. I've know Pat for years and now I feel like I know him better than ever. I think we will plan on going out to lunch on a regular basis. We will see how that works out once his lady retires next April.

Anyway, thought I should let you all know that I am still not hitting the gym on any regular basis. Our daughter is visiting from El Paso, for the next couple of weeks and we have been spending a lot of time doing things with her. Between that and preparing for a big holiday get together at our house next week, putting up Christmas decor and such, I have been staying out of trouble, but not going to the gym.

I do want to say that you, Donny, and now Booty are inspirational. I really am beginning to feel like I need to get back into it after reading about your workouts. I have been a little envious of Donny having equipment at home. And sometimes it seems to me like you, Donny are always doing one thing or another which makes me wonder if you have time for work. With out a doubt, you are exceptionally dedicated to staying fit.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 05, 2012, 07:26:45 PM
It's common PM for people to drop off with their training at this time of the year.  People are busy preparing for christmas, travelling to see family and parties.  Here in Australia people get into the festive season probably a month out and eat out on a regular basis and drink a fair bit.  The gyms get very quiet.  Only the dedicated ones keep up with their training.  Enjoy the time with your daughter and the festive season. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 05, 2012, 07:32:20 PM
well i made my run... was not all that bad, just had to watch because the streets are a bit slidey.
We are experiencing a heatwave in Australia.  It's so horrible.  Thank god I can now wear my sunnies as the glare was killing me.  I am now able to do my cardio outdoors, so will be increasing the duration.  I was doing cardio at the gym as there is no way I am doing it outside in this glare without my sunnies. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 06, 2012, 02:06:37 AM
We are experiencing a heatwave in Australia.  It's so horrible.  Thank god I can now wear my sunnies as the glare was killing me.  I am now able to do my cardio outdoors, so will be increasing the duration.  I was doing cardio at the gym as there is no way I am doing it outside in this glare without my sunnies. 
Got to admit i do not like too much heat..being a scot... ;D although i do get brown quick. I prefer cooler climates and think Alaska would be more appropriate for me... ;) Primemuscle do not worry about it enjoy Xmas and say that you will start in January. As for my work i work in a sportverein(sport club) as a Sport und fitnesskaufmann IHK Hannover (management assistant in sports and Fitness) i work mostly in our Training room as i am also a qualified Fitness Instructor (Trainer B license Inline Academy and C Übungleiter C Deutscher Sportbund.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2012, 10:56:40 AM
Got to admit i do not like too much heat..being a scot... ;D although i do get brown quick. I prefer cooler climates and think Alaska would be more appropriate for me... ;) Primemuscle do not worry about it enjoy Xmas and say that you will start in January. As for my work i work in a sportverein(sport club) as a Sport und fitnesskaufmann IHK Hannover (management assistant in sports and Fitness) i work mostly in our Training room as i am also a qualified Fitness Instructor (Trainer B license Inline Academy and C Übungleiter C Deutscher Sportbund.

Ah, this explains a lot about why you are so committed to being fit. Working in the industry is added incentive to look the part. If you were a slouch, folks might not take you seriously when you were trying to instruct them.

I am not going to allow myself to put off going to the gym until January. Despite my excuses, I have more time available then a lot of folks do being as how I am retired. I really think I have just become so lazy that I don't do as many things in a day as I once did. Next week is busy however, with my wife and I hosting the holiday event and a few other things I have on the docket. Our daughter goes back to El Paso on December 17. Things should get back to a more normal routine then.

I can't believe I am still doing fall clean up in the yard. There is a break in the weather today, meaning no rain. I plan to cut back the perennials and dead annuals plus get the leaves out of the beds. My lucky and apparently wealthier then me neighbor had the arborist trimming his trees yesterday. Today he had the gardener back cleaning the rest of the leaves out of the bushes and beds. And yes, there is an element of "keeping up with the Jones" going on here. Before I start work in the yard, I need to take our dog in for his vaccinations and a toenail clip....a man's work is never done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 06, 2012, 11:24:43 AM
Ah, this explains a lot about why you are so committed to being fit. Working in the industry is added incentive to look the part. If you were a slouch, folks might not take you seriously when you were trying to instruct them.

I am not going to allow myself to put off going to the gym until January. Despite my excuses, I have more time available then a lot of folks do being as how I am retired. I really think I have just become so lazy that I don't do as many things in a day as I once did. Next week is busy however, with my wife and I hosting the holiday event and a few other things I have on the docket. Our daughter goes back to El Paso on December 17. Things should get back to a more normal routine then.

I can't believe I am still doing fall clean up in the yard. There is a break in the weather today, meaning no rain. I plan to cut back the perennials and dead annuals plus get the leaves out of the beds. My lucky and apparently wealthier then me neighbor had the arborist trimming his trees yesterday. Today he had the gardener back cleaning the rest of the leaves out of the bushes and beds. And yes, there is an element of "keeping up with the Jones" going on here. Before I start work in the yard, I need to take our dog in for his vaccinations and a toenail clip....a man's work is never done.
you have enough going on there Prime..if i look the part?.. i look like a trained 46 year old nothing special.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 06, 2012, 04:06:24 PM
you have enough going on there Prime..if i look the part?.. i look like a trained 46 year old nothing special.. ;D

Better look around you, looking trained at 46 years old is something special.  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 06, 2012, 04:14:53 PM
Last night I trained chest, side delts, tris.  I have such bad DOMS in my back that it's hard to lift my arms above my head.  Putting on deodrant is a challenge even.   :-[  My body will adapt quickly though to training again so not too worried...the DOMS will lessen after a few workouts.


Incline db presses x 6 sets
db shoulder presses x4 sets
lateral raises x 4 sets
tricep pressdowns with V bar x 4 sets

Finished off with crunches x 4 sets totally 100 reps.

Got up this morning at 5am and did 60 mins of brisk walking.  Tonight is legs so I wanted to do my cardio earlier on in the day as I know that I won't be able to do cardio straight after leg training.  I plan to add more volume in to my leg workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 07, 2012, 03:07:51 AM
Great workout Booty.. i find after Chest even training Triceps hard but shoulders too? ...respect. I will get back on track next week just working out 3 days a week because training 5 days i find hard. Therefor today i will train Shoulders and Arms. I need a days break between sessions. You know if i lived near a beach in the US or Australia i would love to go for morning runs and evening walks on the beach. A friend of mine finished his time in our Army and joined the Australian Army. seems to like it over there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 07, 2012, 03:56:10 AM
Great workout Booty.. i find after Chest even training Triceps hard but shoulders too? ...respect. I will get back on track next week just working out 3 days a week because training 5 days i find hard. Therefor today i will train Shoulders and Arms. I need a days break between sessions. You know if i lived near a beach in the US or Australia i would love to go for morning runs and evening walks on the beach. A friend of mine finished his time in our Army and joined the Australian Army. seems to like it over there.
Thanks Donny.   I always train delts with chest, but the last coulple of years have split my delts up so that I am doing rears with back.  I am still just easing back into my training after a layoff due to recovering from my surgery plus the inconsistancy from the sinus/throat/chest infections.
I love walking on the beach too in the evenings.  I think I will go for a dip in the ocean this weekened, to help with the DOMS. 


Legs.

Walking lunges x 3 sets (10 reps each leg so in total 20 reps per set)
Thigh extensions x 4 sets
SLD's x 3 sets
Seated hamstring curls x 4 sets
Thigh adductor x 4 sets
Standing calf raises x 3 sets

Nose is swelling and my friend noticed it as well.  I am learning to live with it, although it's not really good when my friend tells me that she can see my nose is swelling and thats from accross the room. 

Finished with a soak in the bath with salts.  Just kept the temp to luke warm though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 07, 2012, 07:08:24 AM
youīll feel it after that workout Booty... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 07, 2012, 03:24:37 PM
youīll feel it after that workout Booty... ;D
Yeah I can feel it already in my legs, but it's not too bad.  Mind you it's only the morning after. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 07, 2012, 04:02:06 PM
I live near the Jersey shore. It's fantastic to run the board walk by the ocean. Now after Sandy it's all off limits. Military and Police limit access. I even use to run on board walk near the bay side that's now destroyed. I miss my Ocean side runs. Looking forward to the Shore returning. The beaches in NJ are are really amazing depending where you go. I have been to beaches all over the US and I will tell you a secret. We have better beaches than anyone. You just have to know where to go.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 07, 2012, 05:25:21 PM
great delt wkout thurs,,,smith fr press then did side laterals ran the rack 35,30,25,20,sets of 8-10 2x around,,reverse bent over cable rear delt,db press x2,,cable up right with seperate handles together instead bar x2,,traps...forearms,calves
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 07, 2012, 09:47:22 PM
great delt wkout thurs,,,smith fr press then did side laterals ran the rack 35,30,25,20,sets of 8-10 2x around,,reverse bent over cable rear delt,db press x2,,cable up right with seperate handles together instead bar x2,,traps...forearms,calves

Seems familiar....I use the Smith press which offers a choice of three different hand positions as the cornerstone of my deltoid workout. I vary the hand position from on work out to the next. Then I hit the dumbbells and work them from a variety of different positions, using three sets and 12-8 reps for each position. I finish off with upright rows. If I am feeling really inspired, I will do Hammer Strength rear presses too before hitting the dumbbells.

Got to get my fat ass back in the gym soon!  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 08, 2012, 02:47:24 AM
some great workouts going on here. I hope you can get back to your beach runs Oldtimer.. i would love the fresh air and wind in my face walking along the beach..paradise. Mind you i would turn into a beach bum...lol. Always liked driving near the sea as a kid with my Family. Today itīs a bit fresh outside but tonight before i settle down to watch TV i will go for an Hour walk for fresh air and i sleep better. Monday i will train Chest/Back again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 08, 2012, 09:23:36 AM
First back workout since getting back in the gym after aggrivating old disc problem.

Reverse grip pulldows 3 sets 10-12reps
Close grip V bar pulldowns 3sets 10-12reps
Hammer Strength seated row 3sets 10-12reps (one arm at a time, inside neutral grip)
Hammer Strength shrugs 3sets 10-12reps (seated)
Hyperextensions 3sets 8-12reps (varied reps, more worried about moving smooth and tight posture)

Felt some discomfort but this seems to be something I can do until the pain goes away. So far its slowly getting better, almost considered doing reverse barbell rows but not yet :)

PS- Can't wait to switch back to my old gym when my current expires soon. They have same stuff but they have the supported Tbar which is a personal favorite. Haven't used that in many many years. I honestly like it more than the oldschool Tbar setup even when I had no back problems and could do whatever I wanted...just has this nice groove and its not really a machine since its not in a locked path, just supported. Kind of like the one arm DB rows at Bev Francis's gym. The bench can rest the db and you get in perfect position where you can't cheat at all unless you start swinging lol.

MDN
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 08, 2012, 09:40:50 AM
nice to hear from you. I would leave out the reverse BB rows till you are better but if you can use the supported T bar row later in the new gym then all the better. Hammer strength rows i liked in the Gym. Also liked the hammer pull down machine...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2012, 02:00:59 AM
Looked out the window this morning....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: mdn250 on December 09, 2012, 08:45:47 AM
nice to hear from you. I would leave out the reverse BB rows till you are better but if you can use the supported T bar row later in the new gym then all the better. Hammer strength rows i liked in the Gym. Also liked the hammer pull down machine...

I also like the Hammer Strength Pulldowns they are a personal favorite of mine. Both the gyms 'close' to my home have the one with the overhandgrip. Angled diaganal so you can't grab it underhand. You can only do it one other way by grabbing hold of the actual arms which is a nice movement to do last since you cant go too heavy.

The only thing I am going to miss in my current gym is the Hammer Strength pulldown with reverse grip. The one Dorian always used. The gym I am going to go back to however, has a pullover machine which a lot have phased out. I LOVE doing those pullover machines for 3sets 10reps to get the back nice and pumped.

MDN
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 09, 2012, 10:00:05 AM
very heavy challenging leg workout am
warmed up 4 sets of heavy wght 12 rep sets extensions
then leg press x3 5 plates per side,then 6 ,then 7 12/10/8-10 reps per set
close stance squat x3 275,315,365 ,12/10/8
lunge up steps 50 lb db up skipped every other step so 12 steps up 18 down did it in consecutive sets up,down,up,down,rested then again ..

hams
seated and lying leg curls 6 sets total

calve superset seated and legs press toe press 20 rep sets 3 x around

great pump...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 09, 2012, 10:07:31 AM
I did not do anything today...just 1 hour walking through the snow... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 09, 2012, 03:29:52 PM
Looked out the window this morning....
Wow.  Now that's snow...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 12:15:12 AM
I didn't do anything today either.  I was supose to train back yesterday and got ready to go to gym with my best friend.  She picked me up early and said lets get something to eat first and so we went to ribs and rumps.  Then of course after steak she wanted to let food go down so we did some shopping.  Next minute she said she's too slack to train and by this stage I was tired too, as it was later in the afternoon and I had very little sleep the night before as my kitten bought a baby snake into the house.  Today I got into a cleaning mode and cleaned the home from top to bottom.  My nose was swollen from the heat alone.  I thought it was better if I let it settle down as it was swollen even at the top of the bridge. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2012, 12:30:21 AM
I didn't do anything today either.  I was supose to train back yesterday and got ready to go to gym with my best friend.  She picked me up early and said lets get something to eat first and so we went to ribs and rumps.  Then of course after steak she wanted to let food go down so we did some shopping.  Next minute she said she's too slack to train and by this stage I was tired too, as it was later in the afternoon and I had very little sleep the night before as my kitten bought a baby snake into the house.  Today I got into a cleaning mode and cleaned the home from top to bottom.  My nose was swollen from the heat alone.  I thought it was better if I let it settle down as it was swollen even at the top of the bridge. 

Why is your nose still swelling?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 12:43:33 AM
Why is your nose still swelling?
Apparently it swells from the heat and anything that raises my blood pressure.  So when I exercise/weight train it swells.  And I live in a hot humid climate and its summer.  Even laying on my back sleeping on one pillow will cause it to swell.  I slept sitting up against 3 pillows for a month but I can't do it any longer. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2012, 12:50:40 AM
Apparently it swells from the heat and anything that raises my blood pressure.  So when I exercise/weight train it swells.  And I live in a hot humid climate and its summer.  Even laying on my back sleeping on one pillow will cause it to swell.  I slept sitting up against 3 pillows for a month but I can't do it any longer. 

So is the swelling unrelated to the surgery you had?

Many years ago, I had a deviated septum repaired. It took about 6 months for the swelling to completely subside. However, it was not affected by heat or my blood pressure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 12:55:29 AM
So is the swelling unrelated to the surgery you had?

Many years ago, I had a deviated septum repaired. It took about 6 months for the swelling to completely subside. However, it was not affected by heat or my blood pressure.
Yes it is.  It's only been 6.5 weeks since my surgery.  I had rhinoplasty on the bridge of my nose to straighten it, as well as my sinus's cleaned out.  It's common and perfectly normal for my nose to be swollen apparently.  It just sucks that it swells so easily, especially under the heat because I can't escape the heat long enough for it to go down. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2012, 01:03:38 AM
I see.

If you lived here in Oregon, you'd be enjoying rain and more rain with highs in the mid to low 40's. It is winter here.

Can you ice your nose? Try a package of frozen peas.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 01:17:00 AM
I see.

If you lived here in Oregon, you'd be enjoying rain and more rain with highs in the mid to low 40's. It is winter here.

Can you ice your nose? Try a package of frozen peas.
Yes a colder climate would be ideal for my recovery.  Especially since I can't wear my sunnies.  I was wearing them for 4 days but they were leaving indents on my nose for hours and hours where the nose pads sat even after wearing them for 5 mins.  I googled it and surgeons said that the bones were strong enough to stand the weight of the glasses but due to swelling it created dents which sometimes were left permanent on patients they had seen.  So I put my sunnies away.   :(
I might try the frozen pack of peas PM.  Thank you for your advice.  This might just do the job and bring some swelling down quickly for me even if it's only temporary.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 10, 2012, 01:28:05 AM
Be sure to not leave the frozen peas on too long. Best to only leave it on for 20 minutes max per hour.. People have gotten frost bite from leaving cold packs on too long. Also be sure to protect your skin by putting something between the cold pack and your nose like a dry wash cloth or  some paper towels.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 01:34:47 AM
Must have been hard sleeping sitting up. although after a few nights you would be very tired and could sleep i bet.. wish i could send some snow over.. ;) although i just walked last night around 5pm our time it was very fresh and windy and i liked it, i slept like a babe last night. Even in winter i wear a t-shirt under my jacket as too many layers make me too hot. I always wear short sleeves. I like cooler climates and always sleep with a slightly open window, i always sleep naked too.. ;) ;D( not Bodybuilding related ..LOL) some Women in the past have remarked on this and i run around at home always in shorts and Barefoot. I feel for you in such heat in Australia and it really must be uncomfortable. Still from the last picture you sent it looks OK. You have a nice complexion and smooth skin. Well today i will go back to my 3 Day split and will try a superset workout i wrote in Woooīs thread. Nice fast pace. Chest+Back always a winner... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 01:37:46 AM
Be sure to not leave the frozen peas on too long. Best to only leave it on for 20 minutes max per hour.. People have gotten frost bite from leaving cold packs on too long. Also be sure to protect your skin by putting something between the cold pack and your nose like a dry wash cloth or  some paper towels.

yes good points..remember icing my knee after an op.. but your face is a lot more sensitive..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 03:41:17 AM
Must have been hard sleeping sitting up. although after a few nights you would be very tired and could sleep i bet.. wish i could send some snow over.. ;) although i just walked last night around 5pm our time it was very fresh and windy and i liked it, i slept like a babe last night. Even in winter i wear a t-shirt under my jacket as too many layers make me too hot. I always wear short sleeves. I like cooler climates and always sleep with a slightly open window, i always sleep naked too.. ;) ;D( not Bodybuilding related ..LOL) some Women in the past have remarked on this and i run around at home always in shorts and Barefoot. I feel for you in such heat in Australia and it really must be uncomfortable. Still from the last picture you sent it looks OK. You have a nice complexion and smooth skin. Well today i will go back to my 3 Day split and will try a superset workout i wrote in Woooīs thread. Nice fast pace. Chest+Back always a winner... ;)
Do you mean the pic of the ocean/whitsundays which I posted in some thread a while back?  It's paradise here in winter as the days are warm and sunny still and I lay in the sun and tan.  Summer feels really long though and air con is a blessing. 
I didn't sleep well sitting up, the max sleep I got was 4-5 hours per night and a sore neck/trap.  I felt really exhausted from this op and not getting enough sleep for weeks took it out of me.  I can honestly say that I didn't start sleeping properly until I lay down on one pillow at night.  I love sleeping with a window open too and feeling fresh cool air.  At the moment though I am sleeping with my air con on.  If I was where there was snow...I would bury my face into it and unswell this nose.   :P
Where's the superset workout Donny? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 03:44:20 AM
Be sure to not leave the frozen peas on too long. Best to only leave it on for 20 minutes max per hour.. People have gotten frost bite from leaving cold packs on too long. Also be sure to protect your skin by putting something between the cold pack and your nose like a dry wash cloth or  some paper towels.

I watched dexter with a bag of peas wrapped around my nose.  It did actually take some swelling down.  My nose feels a little better and I can press my nostrils together now.  I am actually going to do this now everytime I feel too much swelling and especially after training.  Thank you for the advice PM, it was really helpful.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 04:03:18 AM
posted it on the thread "chest,back,Tris" from Wooo :

Incline Bench press 2x6-8
Barbell Pull-overs    2x12-15

Flat Bench Flyes      2x8-10
Barbell rowing         2x8-10

Barbell Bench press 2x6-8
DB one arm rows or pull ups 2x10-12

one legged DB calf raises 3x +12-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 04:07:57 AM
less volume than my normal workout but i will work a bit faster with supersets. I have used this before and it does not take long to do and is harder than it looks(if the effort is put in). Any criticism wellcome.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 10, 2012, 05:56:31 AM
posted it on the thread "chest,back,Tris" from Wooo :

Incline Bench press 2x6-8
Barbell Pull-overs    2x12-15

Flat Bench Flyes      2x8-10
Barbell rowing         2x8-10

Barbell Bench press 2x6-8
DB one arm rows or pull ups 2x10-12

one legged DB calf raises 3x +12-15
Looks good Donny. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 10, 2012, 09:15:43 AM
just got in from an hour walk in the snow..gives not a bad workout. My weights workout today i did 3 sets on each and not 2..because of the supersets i dropped my weight a bit. Still was a great workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on December 10, 2012, 11:35:25 AM
chest and back 8 sets wide bar pulldowns 100 lbs next 8 sets 2 each grip parll bar pulldowns up to 150 lbs. 3 sets 22 reps pb chins , 2 sets 15 par chins. 5 sets 50 lb dbs one arm row, chest bench press 90 lbs to 210 lbs 30 reps down to 10 reps. 6 sets 30 par bar pushups. 4 sets 45 lb incl db presses. 3 sets 12 w 115 bb presses.various waist work and some legs to finish off. 85 total minutes. than 3 mile walk pulled by this beastie pic'd below. hey i'm 61 years old unjuiced  what do you expect? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on December 10, 2012, 11:36:27 AM
chest and back 8 sets wide bar pulldowns 100 lbs next 8 sets 2 each grip parll bar pulldowns up to 150 lbs. 3 sets 22 reps pb chins , 2 sets 15 par chins. 5 sets 50 lb dbs one arm row, chest bench press 90 lbs to 210 lbs 30 reps down to 10 reps. 6 sets 30 par bar pushups. 4 sets 45 lb incl db presses. 3 sets 12 w 115 bb presses.various waist work and some legs to finish off. 85 total minutes. than 3 mile walk pulled by this beastie pic'd below. hey i'm 61 years old unjuiced  what do you expect? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
oh here's  the beastie. 55 lbs of pulling power.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 11, 2012, 04:03:40 AM
Nice looking dog Funky.. wish i had a dog to go with for long walks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: funk51 on December 11, 2012, 08:05:49 AM
Nice looking dog Funky.. wish i had a dog to go for long walks.
thanks donny. ;D pic of roy h for inspiration ,shit i'm older than this guy is in the pic. ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 11, 2012, 08:45:57 AM
well today is rest day for me..nice picture. I really donīt think much about my age.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 11, 2012, 07:13:09 PM
well today is rest day for me..nice picture. I really donīt think much about my age.. ;D

Being as young as you are, you shouldn't think about your age.

I just spent the entire day putting up interior Christmas decorations for a holiday potluck we are hosting tomorrow. The only think I have left is to put some leaves in the dining room table, put the tablecloth on and arrange a centerpiece of candle holders and candles. The frustration in hosting these events is that people today are very lax about RSVP so we really have no idea how many people to expect. Last year there was about 30 folks, if my memory serves me well. Luckily the entertaining spaces in our home are generous so I think we can handle up to about 60 or 70 people without it seeming like wall-to-wall bodies. This is all adults (senior citizens like me actually) so it isn't like there will be a bunch of little tykes running amuck.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 12, 2012, 01:39:32 AM
oh here's  the beastie. 55 lbs of pulling power.
Beautiful looking dog!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 12, 2012, 01:47:57 AM
Back, rear delts and biceps

I increased both weight and sets this workout.  My nose felt some pressure during training but it wasn't something I couldn't handle.  On a really positive note, I am loving all the air that is able to get into my nose and down into my lungs.  Just an amazing feeling after having months and months of breathing difficulties.

One arm db rowes x 6 sets
Lat pulldowns to the rear supersetted with lat pulldowns to the front x 6 sets
Diversional lat pulldowns 10 reps on right side, 10 reps on left side, 10 reps both arms  x 2 sets
Rear delt flye machine x 4 sets  (wanted to do bent over db flyes, but chose machine instead due to the fact that I was upright, taking nose swelling into consideration)
db bicep curls x 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 12, 2012, 02:17:03 AM
Very interesting Karen, i take it you mean by Diversional pulldowns One arm. I know the word "Diversion" from Military terminology as "a feint attack to draw the enemy away from the main attack" Diversional "to Divert" I have never used this exercise but have seen it used in Physio(using a single arm. Please explain it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 12, 2012, 02:20:50 AM
Back, rear delts and biceps

I increased both weight and sets this workout.  My nose felt some pressure during training but it wasn't something I couldn't handle.  On a really positive note, I am loving all the air that is able to get into my nose and down into my lungs.  Just an amazing feeling after having months and months of breathing difficulties.

One arm db rowes x 6 sets
Lat pulldowns to the rear supersetted with lat pulldowns to the front x 6 sets
Diversional lat pulldowns 10 reps on right side, 10 reps on left side, 10 reps both arms  x 2 sets
Rear delt flye machine x 4 sets  (wanted to do bent over db flyes, but chose machine instead due to the fact that I was upright, taking nose swelling into consideration)
db bicep curls x 4 sets

So, being as how we both have breathing issues. Do you hope that the surgery will solve all of your problems?

As I mentioned, I had a deviated septum repaired when I was quite young. Guess what? A deviated septum can come back to haunt you. As it turns out, I have  allergies which "clog my breathing" passages. In addition to having surgery, I was injected with whatever to counter allergies for a number of years. I even took and oral medication, Singulair to help me work through all the complications of my allergies which resulted in my getting pneumonia more times then I care to remember. I should have suffocated considering that I had pneumonia the first time when I was still an infant.

Here is my thinking on this, we get what we get. We can succumb to this and spend our lives compromised by our genetics or we can say "fuck it" and see better and healthier life for ourselves.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 12, 2012, 02:27:46 AM
So, being as how we both have breathing issues. Do you hope that the surgery will solve all of your problems?

As I mentioned, I had a deviated septum repaired when I was quite young. Guess what? A deviated septum can come back to haunt you. As it turns out, I have  allergies which "clog my breathing" passages. In addition to having surgery, I was injected with whatever to counter allergies for a number of years. I even took and oral medication, Singular to help me work through all the complications of my allergies which resulted in my getting pneumonia more times then I care to remember. I should have suffocated considering that I had pneumonia the first time when  I was still an infant.

Here is my thinking on this, we get what we get. We can succumb to this and spend our lives compromised by our genetics or we can say "fuck it" and see better and healthier life for ourselves.
It already has solved them all.  Since the surgery I have had no infections and no asthma.  My health has been perfect and the air I am getting through to my lungs feels amazing.  My sinus was blocked due to the fact that my septum wasn't straight and therefore air and what not was unable to flow properly.  By cleaning me completely out and straightening my nose (rhinoplasty), it has solved my health issues and is unlikely to ever return as my nose is straight now. 
I might add that I only began having health issues 16 months ago.  Prior to this, my nose had never bothered me and I rarely got sinus or infections.  I think it was just something that had built up over my lifetime.  Plus the fact that I had a bad cold last year and alot of mucus, so this was unable to drain and resulted in the blockage.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 12, 2012, 02:35:56 AM
so Today i will train shoulders and arms per my normal workout plan. I will however add some grip and forearm training Today. Hanging from my chinning bar and pinch grips. I will also do reverse ez bar preacher curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 13, 2012, 03:08:51 AM
yesterday evening inbetween i did multiple sets of bicep and tricep work. I worked my arms with shoulders and later i just kept doing one arm tricep extensions behind my neck and Dumbbell curls. I used a weight that i could keep using. my arms are sore today...sometimes itīs good to just rep out and forget about reps and sets... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 13, 2012, 06:03:27 AM
had great back workout,,reverse hammer pulldowns..standing pad to chest t bar row wide grip,low cable rows,close grip inner grip t bar row regular version,standing pulldown/pullover wide bar,,weighted hyper's,,  15 sets total ,,,
 bi's
abs too...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 13, 2012, 06:05:38 AM
had great back workout,,reverse hammer pulldowns..standing pad to chest t bar row wide grip,low cable rows,close grip inner grip t bar row regular version,standing pulldown/pullover wide bar,,weighted hyper's,,  15 sets total ,,,
 bi's
abs too...
Nice.... :) i loved reverse Hammer pulldowns...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 13, 2012, 07:04:15 PM
yesterday evening inbetween i did multiple sets of bicep and tricep work. I worked my arms with shoulders and later i just kept doing one arm tricep extensions behind my neck and Dumbbell curls. I used a weight that i could keep using. my arms are sore today...sometimes itīs good to just rep out and forget about reps and sets... ;)
That reminds me of when I first began training and I would rep out on calves all day.  I would be doing calf raises on the stairs at home. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 13, 2012, 11:57:58 PM
After my last back workout 2 days ago, I haven't trained due to the swelling and discomfort accross the bridge of my nose.  Am feeling a bit down today because of it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2012, 12:39:04 AM
After my last back workout 2 days ago, I haven't trained due to the swelling and discomfort accross the bridge of my nose.  Am feeling a bit down today because of it.

Are you feeling down because you didn't train or because your nose is swollen and uncomfortable? Are you remembering to put those frozen peas on your nose to reduce the swelling?

I really need to get back to the gym. Every little thing I do lately, makes me ache, especially my legs. I raked leaves, pulled out dead annuals and cut back perennials the other day and had sore hamstrings for two days. Then I decorated the house and trimmed the Christmas tree for a holiday potluck we hosted yesterday, climbing up and down a ladder all day Tuesday. Now my calves, quads and feet were really sore. I can only guess that this is because I have taken such a long holiday from hitting the weights. The other option is that I am just becoming a old man (which is true, but this is not how I imagined it). I don't mind looking old, but I want to still feel like I did as a young guy.  :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 14, 2012, 03:10:33 AM
Today is leg day...rounded off with some crunches and a run..hey prime do not worry after Xmas youīll be back to it. You are busy with all the preparations at home and that is more important now... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 14, 2012, 03:27:30 AM
Are you feeling down because you didn't train or because your nose is swollen and uncomfortable? Are you remembering to put those frozen peas on your nose to reduce the swelling?

I really need to get back to the gym. Every little thing I do lately, makes me ache, especially my legs. I raked leaves, pulled out dead annuals and cut back perennials the other day and had sore hamstrings for two days. Then I decorated the house and trimmed the Christmas tree for a holiday potluck we hosted yesterday, climbing up and down a ladder all day Tuesday. Now my calves, quads and feet were really sore. I can only guess that this is because I have taken such a long holiday from hitting the weights. The other option is that I am just becoming a old man (which is true, but this is not how I imagined it). I don't mind looking old, but I want to still feel like I did as a young guy.  :'(
Probably both, but more so because my nose is swollen and uncomfortable.  Yes I have been putting frozen peas on my nose multiple times during the day however it's not making a difference. 
PM walking up and down a ladder all day is going to work the calves and quads/glutes big time.  You'll get back into training once christmas is over with.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 14, 2012, 03:31:53 AM
yes all the good food over Xmas.... :P  pudding ....  the gyms are always full again just after Xmas and the New Year... ;D  All the little porkers. Karen maybe you should get your nose looked at by your Doctor..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 14, 2012, 03:53:06 AM
yes all the good food over Xmas.... :P  pudding ....  the gyms are always full again just after Xmas and the New Year... ;D  All the little porkers. Karen maybe you should get your nose looked at by your Doctor..
The gyms will be packed after new year and we will be frustrated by having to fight for equipment and room.  My surgeon isn't back here until March.  I was going to call the surgeon today but instead decided to keep icing my nose with frozen peas.  Nice day it was...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 14, 2012, 06:57:05 PM
Probably both, but more so because my nose is swollen and uncomfortable.  Yes I have been putting frozen peas on my nose multiple times during the day however it's not making a difference. 
PM walking up and down a ladder all day is going to work the calves and quads/glutes big time.  You'll get back into training once christmas is over with.   :)

Good, because there is nothing worst than having a flat sagging ass, IMO!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 03:28:57 AM
Good, because there is nothing worst than having a flat sagging ass, IMO!
QFT.   ;D  At least we can stave off the gravity process via resistant weight training. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 03:35:13 AM
My nose is still swollen and looks the same, but I think the bridge feels a little better and there is less popping in my ears when I swallow.  I have been a little emotional and sensitive the past day or so and then I realised I am getting my monthlys.  I usually don't get pms every month but this time I have it.  I increased my vitamin B.  Something you guys are lucky you don't have to cope with.  I hate it when my hormones are all over the place. 

Chest and delts.

Incline db presses x 4 sets
Incline db flyes x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 4 sets

I will train bis and tris together next time, probably with abs and calves. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2012, 03:39:49 AM
nice and i like how you split up your Delts(rear delts with Back). I also think 4 sets per ex is a good amount of work. Today i will jump some rope at home here and will do a few sets of these....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 03:41:29 AM
Thanks Donny.  I like those abs exercises...they're really good.  How long will you do jump rope?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2012, 03:51:47 AM
I will do some Tabata training and i use a timer of you tube... set it and go...20 secs and 10 secs rest. I will do 2-3 circuits. I sometimes throw these crunches in there too for 20 secs. each circuit is only 4 mins but fairly fast. sometimes i will do 20 mins total and also do a 2-1 ratio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 03:59:45 AM
I will do some Tabata training and i use a timer of you tube... set it and go...20 secs and 10 secs rest. I will do 2-3 circuits. I sometimes throw these crunches in there too for 20 secs. each circuit is only 4 mins but fairly fast. sometimes i will do 20 mins total and also do a 2-1 ratio.
20 mins is a good circuit. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 15, 2012, 04:06:10 AM
20 mins is enough for me and i am average at jumping rope. I just jump with both feet or sometimes in a marking time marching motion 1 foot at a time. Tabata circuits are harder than you think if you go for it. 3 circuits one after another you are working... ;D At least the streets are a bit clearer now for running and it was warmer outside last night.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 15, 2012, 04:19:31 AM
Being warmer in temperature is going to help your workouts for sure.  When it's cold it takes longer for your body to warm up also. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 15, 2012, 02:22:09 PM
My nose is still swollen and looks the same, but I think the bridge feels a little better and there is less popping in my ears when I swallow.  I have been a little emotional and sensitive the past day or so and then I realised I am getting my monthlys.  I usually don't get pms every month but this time I have it.  I increased my vitamin B.  Something you guys are lucky you don't have to cope with.  I hate it when my hormones are all over the place. 

Chest and delts.

Incline db presses x 4 sets
Incline db flyes x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 4 sets

I will train bis and tris together next time, probably with abs and calves. 

Medical science is only just discovering how important hormones are to our health. I suspect mine are off since stopping the testosterone cypionate injections last year when the doctor first diagnosed my prostate cancer. I also suspect this has had much to do with my lack of ambition to workout and general feelings of malaise lately. Interestingly, I mentioned this to him yesterday during my 6 month checkup. As a result, when next I do lab work in three months my testosterone levels will be checked. Since the cancer is gone, I may go back on the shots without risk to my health. In the meantime, I will need to boost my testosterone levels via exercise and diet.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 16, 2012, 01:57:06 AM
bis, tris, abs


Bicep machine curl x 4 sets
db bicep curls x4 sets
db hammer curls x4 sets
Tricep pressdowns with v bar x 4 sets
rope pressdowns x 4 sets
Tricep extensions machine x 4 sets
Reverse crunches 15 reps x 3 sets  (this exercise put alot of pressure on my nose/bridge so didn't do many)
Crunches 50 reps x 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2012, 02:17:38 AM
bis, tris, abs


Bicep machine curl x 4 sets
db bicep curls x4 sets
db hammer curls x4 sets
Tricep pressdowns with v bar x 4 sets
rope pressdowns x 4 sets
Tricep extensions machine x 4 sets
Reverse crunches 15 reps x 3 sets  (this exercise put alot of pressure on my nose/bridge so didn't do many)
Crunches 50 reps x 4 sets

nice bit of intensity in there.. do you find doing Tricep pressdowns better first to warm up before Tri Ext machine? press downs with bar and rope yes i like the diffrent hand positions..the rope hitting the lateral head. very well planned Karen. do you ever use a supinated(underhand grip) on the bar too, the Medial head being hit well. I always liked the underhand grip with one arm at a time. I used pushdowns more as a finishing off movement.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2012, 02:25:28 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 16, 2012, 09:01:48 AM
so just got back from a grueling run.... i am ready for a warm shower and my sofa... ;D and a nice cold Bananna Milk... Today is my Wedding Anniversary too...24 years... ;D i am getting old... :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 16, 2012, 07:19:13 PM
so just got back from a grueling run.... i am ready for a warm shower and my sofa... ;D and a nice cold Bananna Milk... Today is my Wedding Anniversary too...24 years... ;D i am getting old... :'(
congrats....i'm going on 8 soon,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 16, 2012, 08:52:46 PM
so just got back from a grueling run.... i am ready for a warm shower and my sofa... ;D and a nice cold Bananna Milk... Today is my Wedding Anniversary too...24 years... ;D i am getting old... :'(

You are halfway to where my wife and I are. We celebrated 48 years of marriage last October. Trust me, it only gets better and better.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 17, 2012, 09:12:04 AM
Thanks Prime and njflex.. I have had a lot to do today and i will do chest and Back tomorrow and now to relax i will forget the stress and winter blues and go swimming. A trip to the local baths is just what i need... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 10:56:28 AM
Thanks Prime and njflex.. I have had a lot to do today and i will do chest and Back tomorrow and now to relax i will forget the stress and winter blues and go swimming. A trip to the local baths is just what i need... ;)

Good idea. I woke up to snow and rain mix. Fortunately, it is not sticking. Our daughter is flying home to El Paso, TX today. She is afraid of flying and so any inclement weather makes her nervous. Tomorrow, things should start getting back to normal around here so maybe I'll make it to the gym.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: oldtimer1 on December 17, 2012, 05:44:03 PM
Lifted for back and chest today. I was shot but I wanted to do a little cardio so I fast walked 5 miles.

 I thought I would be back before the sun went down but I really was off. The trail in the woods was pitch black and then it started to rain. I couldn't see two feet in front of me. After stumbling around in the dark for what seemed like forever my wife asked when I got home, "how was your walk?"
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 06:19:18 PM
Lifted for back and chest today. I was shot but I wanted to do a little cardio so I fast walked 5 miles.

 I thought I would be back before the sun went down but I really was off. The trail in the woods was pitch black and then it started to rain. I couldn't see two feet in front of me. After stumbling around in the dark for what seemed like forever my wife asked when I got home, "how was your walk?"
That's funny...getting lost in the woods.   ;D  I wouldn't like it, I would be spooked.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 06:21:02 PM
Medical science is only just discovering how important hormones are to our health. I suspect mine are off since stopping the testosterone cypionate injections last year when the doctor first diagnosed my prostate cancer. I also suspect this has had much to do with my lack of ambition to workout and general feelings of malaise lately. Interestingly, I mentioned this to him yesterday during my 6 month checkup. As a result, when next I do lab work in three months my testosterone levels will be checked. Since the cancer is gone, I may go back on the shots without risk to my health. In the meantime, I will need to boost my testosterone levels via exercise and diet.
Hormones are extremely important for optimum health.  I think they rule us to a certain extent. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 06:23:40 PM
nice bit of intensity in there.. do you find doing Tricep pressdowns better first to warm up before Tri Ext machine? press downs with bar and rope yes i like the diffrent hand positions..the rope hitting the lateral head. very well planned Karen. do you ever use a supinated(underhand grip) on the bar too, the Medial head being hit well. I always liked the underhand grip with one arm at a time. I used pushdowns more as a finishing off movement.
I just tried to mix it up Donny.  Personally I don't really like machines but I wanted some variety that day.  My favourite tricep exercise is pressdowns with the V bar.  I like the way it hits my tris.  I don't like using the straight bar as it irritates my wrists.  V bar seems to feel perfect for my body.  

Congrats to everyone who have recently celebrated wedding anniversaries.  I wish I was as lucky to be with someone for as long as you guys.  Instead my partner passed away this month, going on 13 years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 08:25:28 PM
So the plan is to do some brisk walking this afternoon outdoors, when the sun isn't as strong say around 6pm.  Since I am still not wearing my sunnies I will instead wear my aussie cowboy sunhat to keep the sun out of my eyes.  I will aim for at least an hour, possibly 1 hour and 30 mins if the sun stays up for me.  I don't want to be walking in the dark around here, too dangerous.  Tomorrow will be leg day..bring it on!!! 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 08:37:24 PM
I don't want to be walking in the dark around here, too dangerous.  Tomorrow will be leg day..bring it on!!! 

Dangerous? Someone from Australia has been posting in another thread that it is only in the U.S.A. that bad things happen to people (at least involving guns). Are you saying that there are places in Australia which are not particularly safe? Do you live in a major city? Cities are often less safe than small towns. Where I live in West Linn, OR, I think you could go for a walk in the middle of the night and be pretty safe. The only problem would be not enough street lights and thus being able to see where you were going. Seems like there is one street light per block on the street were I live. Couple that with an abundance of trees which block the light and it can be pretty dark on the sidewalks.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 17, 2012, 10:08:53 PM
Dangerous? Someone from Australia has been posting in another thread that it is only in the U.S.A. that bad things happen to people (at least involving guns). Are you saying that there are places in Australia which are not particularly safe? Do you live in a major city? Cities are often less safe than small towns. Where I live in West Linn, OR, I think you could go for a walk in the middle of the night and be pretty safe. The only problem would be not enough street lights and thus being able to see where you were going. Seems like there is one street light per block on the street were I live. Couple that with an abundance of trees which block the light and it can be pretty dark on the sidewalks.
I got grabbed by a young guy on a bicycle oneday when I was walking and it was like 5pm.  He sneaked up behind me and put his hands up my shorts and rode off.  I couldn't do anything because it happened so quickly.  He planned it.  Earlier he had rode past saying sexual things to me and I brushed it off.  Then when nobody was around he grabbed me.  Things happen all the time here in Australia, not just the USA.  We have rapes and women go missing...even children go missing.  The only thing which is safer here is the schools...we have never had any shootings in any of our history. 
I never walk when it is dark or even when the sun is going down.  There have been rapes when I walk and that's just a few blocks from me.  It's a walking track and there are too many places and bushes for somebody to hide.  I wish I had a treadmill at home, I have always wanted one as then I could do my cardio whenever I wanted. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 17, 2012, 11:18:07 PM
I got grabbed by a young guy on a bicycle oneday when I was walking and it was like 5pm.  He sneaked up behind me and put his hands up my shorts and rode off.  I couldn't do anything because it happened so quickly.  He planned it.  Earlier he had rode past saying sexual things to me and I brushed it off.  Then when nobody was around he grabbed me.  Things happen all the time here in Australia, not just the USA.  We have rapes and women go missing...even children go missing.  The only thing which is safer here is the schools...we have never had any shootings in any of our history. 
I never walk when it is dark or even when the sun is going down.  There have been rapes when I walk and that's just a few blocks from me.  It's a walking track and there are too many places and bushes for somebody to hide.  I wish I had a treadmill at home, I have always wanted one as then I could do my cardio whenever I wanted. 


I am sorry to read that Australia is in many ways not much different that the U.S., but it doesn't surprise me. People are people wherever you are. There is really no reason to think otherwise, unfortunately.

When I was a kid 6 years of age, I was shuffled off to live with my father in a small town in Michigan called Parma. Because my dad was trying to get his business going, he farmed me out with some townspeople, so I really wasn't living with him after all. A year later my dad disappeared after a big fight with his girlfriend. I then went to live with cousins on their dairy farm in neighboring Albion, MI. It was a simple and good life for me, a spoiled city kid, who by now had lived all over the world with a variety of relatives from both sides of my family.

For many years, I dreamed of returning to Albion with my wife and children to live. This never worked out, unfortunately. Margie, my wife and I could move there now except for her poor health, so I have to think that it just isn't meant to be. Maybe this is a good thing. I would be very disappointed if we went there and it was no different than living in the city. Years ago, little towns in America, like Albion were somewhat isolated from the ills and complications of the rest of the world. Communications being what they are today, this is no longer the case. Still, I would like to think a person could take a walk at anytime in Albion and be perfectly safe.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 18, 2012, 12:44:16 AM
1 hour of brisk walking outdoors.  Heat just about killed me and it's so humid as it's trying to rain here.  Hello big nose....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2012, 05:43:15 AM
well nowadays you get idiots everywhere. In Winter i run on the streets and have had myself a couple of near run ins. You get groups of young Guys running around looking for trouble, nothing new but nowadays they will be tooled up or will beat you to Death. remember getting comments from a group of young Turks as i ran past and i turned and said "Fuck off". They do not like Brits here(Turks) and one told the other in German to leave it because he knew i was going to rumble. I have thought about getting a telescopic baton and it's quick and closes down to pocket size. Easy to carry while running. Flick it out and whack them. Karen maybe you should try Escrima and it is a good system. Anyway back to training:

Flat Bench press 4x6-8
Flat Flyes           4x10+
Push-ups with feet on bench to hit upper pecs/shoulders 4x max SUPERSET with Incline flyes 4x 10+

Sternum pull-ups 4x max
Barbell rows        4x10
T-Bar rows(using a close grip V attachment i have on the weighted end of the Bar,empty end in a corner.  4x10
shrugs 3x 12-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2012, 05:48:24 AM
http://telescopic-batons.com/telescopic-steel-baton.htm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 18, 2012, 08:22:52 AM
Not big on stretching before weight training but i found this good today but i started holding the towel at waist height and "dislocated" my shoulder moving the towel in an arc over my head to my back region arms always straight as in the picture).
http://exrx.net/Stretches/PectoralisMinor/Towel.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 19, 2012, 04:27:51 AM
Crappy leg workout because I didn't eat enough during the day to carry me through my workout.  It's very hot here and my appetite is down, but I need to force myself to eat more on days where I will be training larger muscle groups such as legs.  Just didn't have the energy...

Thigh extensions x 6 sets
Split squats x 3 sets (10 each leg)
Laying leg curls x 3 sets
Seated Leg curls x 3 sets
Leg adductor machine x 3 sets
Standing calf raises x 3 sets  (Everytime I do this exercise I get a strange headache behind my nose and eyes/head.  It must be the weight on my shoulders putting pressure on my nose). 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 05:21:50 AM
today i have to go to a sport Hall here and supervise a sport group so i will take my bike as the streets are clear now of snow. take me about 25 Min's to get there and i will use this for my cardio. I got myself a new mountain bike...not expensive but it does me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 19, 2012, 05:27:43 AM
How's your shoulder Donny? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2012, 06:49:33 AM
had great chest workout yesterday.
started with heavy inc db presses got up to 80's 
hammer low/mid press plate loaded type 3 plates per side
cable crossovers repped 12/12/12
smith flat press x3 heavy as i could go last set just 45 ea side 15 reps nice pump...
dips bodyweight x2 15/13 reps
total sets 15...
tris and abs too...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 19, 2012, 08:55:24 AM
how much rest do you guys give yourselves?  I wanted to go for a run this AM but my body is revolting, I`m 44 and have been trying to drop some fat so caloric intake has been down, so is the energy level.
 I have been working at some type of vigorous exercise at least 5 days a week but it seems to be catching up with me, down 10lbs in two weeks though.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 09:11:21 AM
How's your shoulder Donny? 
well i have never had another problem with it. i am sure it was behind the neck chins that caused it. i never do any pressing or chins wide grip anymore. The shoulder injury you mention Karen was Bursitis. I used too much weight or incorrect form..or training too much as it is an over use injury. I use now the stretch with a towel and it's fine. Been a while since that injury..you are very observant Karen.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 09:21:07 AM
how much rest do you guys give yourselves?  I wanted to go for a run this AM but my body is revolting, I`m 44 and have been trying to drop some fat so caloric intake has been down, so is the energy level.
 I have been working at some type of vigorous exercise at least 5 days a week but it seems to be catching up with me, down 10lbs in two weeks though.
well i find running in the morning not good.. sure they all say run early on an empty stomach. I believe that about mid afternoon is perfect to weight train and cardio straight after. Train 3 days a week and allow a rest day inbetween, 2 if you need it. The body mid afternoon  is "awake" then and your muscles are warm from normal movements. First thing in the morning is not good in my opinion. I run/walk... move every day but this is through years of activity and my body takes it. I would suggest Quality not Quantity and cut it down to 3 days Vigorous activity and over say a year build it up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 09:29:34 AM
had great chest workout yesterday.
started with heavy inc db presses got up to 80's 
hammer low/mid press plate loaded type 3 plates per side
cable crossovers repped 12/12/12
smith flat press x3 heavy as i could go last set just 45 ea side 15 reps nice pump...
dips bodyweight x2 15/13 reps
total sets 15...
tris and abs too...
Respect..nice weight for Incline DB press. I would not be able to train my Triceps after such a chest workout. I would maybe pair triceps with shoulders...if at all.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 19, 2012, 09:49:44 AM
how much rest do you guys give yourselves?  I wanted to go for a run this AM but my body is revolting, I`m 44 and have been trying to drop some fat so caloric intake has been down, so is the energy level.
 I have been working at some type of vigorous exercise at least 5 days a week but it seems to be catching up with me, down 10lbs in two weeks though.
Also try a routine like this..
Bench press
Chins
Squats

parallel Bar dips
Deadlifts
Barbell shoulder press

alternate the two as workout A and B over 3 days a week or Day on Day off. QUALITY my friend...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 19, 2012, 10:24:22 AM
Respect..nice weight for Incline DB press. I would not be able to train my Triceps after such a chest workout. I would maybe pair triceps with shoulders...if at all.
thanx maybe i will switch up to shoulder day/tris i'm due to shake up...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 19, 2012, 10:29:25 PM

alternate the two as workout A and B over 3 days a week or Day on Day off. QUALITY my friend...

 you are right. I was doing lift, box/run, 1 day off, box/run, lift, box/run, 1 day off.  It was just more than I can recover effectively from, takes more time nowadays for sure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 20, 2012, 07:40:01 AM
Today i did shoulders and arms:
Barbell press 4x6-8
side raises(seated) 4x12
Bent over laterals   4x12

seated alternate DB curls 3x8-10
Preacher bench ez bar reverse curls 3x8-10
Lying ez bar extensions 3x10
close hand push ups on floor 3xmax (safer than close grip bench when training alone)
Crunches 3xmax Feet flat on floor
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 20, 2012, 08:25:17 AM
BACK
REVERSE HAMMER PULLDOWNS
WIDE BAR LOWER CABLE ROW
BENT OVER DB ROW KNEE ON BENCH PUMPED 85/90/100 FOR REPS 12/10/9
TBAR ROW chest to pad type...
WIDE BAR PULLOVER/PULLDOEN STANDING UP SLIGHT BEND AT WAIST

WEIGHTED HYPERS

BI'S
CURLS STRAIGHT BAR 45 LB BAR FINISHED WITH 35 PLATE FOR HARD 8
SEATED DB CURLS FINISHED WITH 45 DB
ROPE CURLS TO LOWER PORTION BICEP
SCOTT CURL MACHINE WEIGHTED STACH TYPE
 11 SETS TOTAL...

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2012, 01:52:04 AM
BACK
REVERSE HAMMER PULLDOWNS
WIDE BAR LOWER CABLE ROW
BENT OVER DB ROW KNEE ON BENCH PUMPED 85/90/100 FOR REPS 12/10/9
TBAR ROW chest to pad type...
WIDE BAR PULLOVER/PULLDOEN STANDING UP SLIGHT BEND AT WAIST

WEIGHTED HYPERS

BI'S
CURLS STRAIGHT BAR 45 LB BAR FINISHED WITH 35 PLATE FOR HARD 8
SEATED DB CURLS FINISHED WITH 45 DB
ROPE CURLS TO LOWER PORTION BICEP
SCOTT CURL MACHINE WEIGHTED STACH TYPE
 11 SETS TOTAL...

ABS

solid as always.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 21, 2012, 03:05:02 AM
Very very average back workout today.  I wasn't really in the right frame mind and therefore felt as though I just went through the motions.  Plus it doesn't help that my nose swells the most when I train back and I felt as though my nose was getting a bit of mucus developing for some odd reason.  It when was I was bent over in db rowes.

One armed db rowes x 6 sets
Lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
Diversional lat pulldown machine x 4 sets
Bent over db lateral raises x 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2012, 04:44:21 AM
Very very average back workout today.  I wasn't really in the right frame mind and therefore felt as though I just went through the motions.  Plus it doesn't help that my nose swells the most when I train back and I felt as though my nose was getting a bit of mucus developing for some odd reason.  It when was I was bent over in db rowes.

One armed db rowes x 6 sets
Lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
Diversional lat pulldown machine x 4 sets
Bent over db lateral raises x 4 sets
Look after your nose.. ;) Itīs snowing again here... :(  still going to run later...HARDCORE ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 21, 2012, 09:01:12 AM
 Lifted last night, bench, bb rows, overhead press, curls. Did a 2 mile run this am followed by 25 minutes on the heavy bag. Off til sunday,  :D, quality not quantity right.
 It was around 25F here this am, I like running and working out in the cold myself.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2012, 09:25:30 AM
Lifted last night, bench, bb rows, overhead press, curls. Did a 2 mile run this am followed by 25 minutes on the heavy bag. Off til sunday,  :D, quality not quantity right.
 It was around 25F here this am, I like running and working out in the cold myself.
yes i mean work hard on a few Basics and you will get results. Keep it simple. You should be a Scot... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 21, 2012, 09:58:37 AM
yes i mean work hard on a few Basics and you will get results. Keep it simple. You should be a Scot... ;D

 Scots Irish and Cherokee, I`m a mutant.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 21, 2012, 10:03:45 AM
Scots Irish and Cherokee, I`m a mutant.
yeah...you got some crazy blood in there... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2012, 05:13:27 PM
Scots Irish and Cherokee, I`m a mutant.

Supposedly, a distant ancestor of mine was a Cherokee Indian princess. According to what my mom told me, I am 1/64 Cherokee Indian. Maybe this is why I never burn when out in the sun. I do like my "fire water" on occasion. LOL! My maternal grandmother was French. She grew up in Brittany, France. I just found out that my maternal grandfather's surname was originally Irish. The paternal side of my family are all English, I believe. However, my dad's ancestors immigrated to the Americas prior to the Revolutionary war. Guess that makes me pretty much just an American.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 21, 2012, 05:17:49 PM
My medical insurance provider sent me a gym membership card called SilverSneakers in the mail today. Apparently this allows me membership in various gyms the world over. Unfortunately, my regular gym is not on their list. Still, it should be good to enjoy a change of scenery every so often and who knows? Maybe I can talk the owners of the gym I use to accept the SilverSneakers card too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 21, 2012, 08:25:59 PM
my great great grandmothers name was red trigger.

 alcohol and me don`t mix well, at all. glad I lived through that phase.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 02:20:10 AM
Well my Mother came from Islay  the W coast of Scotland.. i was born in Dunfermline in the Kingdom of Fife ;) bit of Scottish West and East Coast and my Father Motherwell. I grew up in the Stirling area though...100% Scottish prime Beef  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 04:35:13 AM
Look after your nose.. ;) Itīs snowing again here... :(  still going to run later...HARDCORE ;D
My nose has been throbbing a little today.  I was going to train chest today but due to the throbbing I decided against it.  Been googling about swelling and how to reduce it and I might go back to sleeping up against a couple of pillows.  Also I can try to reduce my salt intake, not that I have alot to begin with.  But with the hot climate there is not alot I can do. 
I wish you could send me some snow Donny.  Like I said I would put my face down in it.   ;D  It would just be nice to be in a cooler climate at this time post op. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on December 22, 2012, 04:57:14 AM
My nose has been throbbing a little today.  I was going to train chest today but due to the throbbing I decided against it.  Been googling about swelling and how to reduce it and I might go back to sleeping up against a couple of pillows.  Also I can try to reduce my salt intake, not that I have alot to begin with.  But with the hot climate there is not alot I can do. 
I wish you could send me some snow Donny.  Like I said I would put my face down in it.   ;D  It would just be nice to be in a cooler climate at this time post op. 

 ::)
do you know how much you've been moaning about your nose ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 05:15:18 AM
My nose has been throbbing a little today.  I was going to train chest today but due to the throbbing I decided against it.  Been googling about swelling and how to reduce it and I might go back to sleeping up against a couple of pillows.  Also I can try to reduce my salt intake, not that I have alot to begin with.  But with the hot climate there is not alot I can do. 
I wish you could send me some snow Donny.  Like I said I would put my face down in it.   ;D  It would just be nice to be in a cooler climate at this time post op. 
you would just need to go for a short walk here and your nose would be cold...LOL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 05:28:53 AM
so no weights today just a brisk walk for fresh air...but at the moment i am full of Tomato soup... :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 05:34:18 AM
you would just need to go for a short walk here and your nose would be cold...LOL
I would love it.   ;D  I love fresh crisp air too...it's so enjoyable to walk in. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 05:35:03 AM
so no weights today just a brisk walk for fresh air...but at the moment i am full of Tomato soup... :P
Did you eat it with toast and lots of butter?   :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 05:47:10 AM
Did you eat it with toast and lots of butter?   :P
yes white toast bread with butter and i must admit i have no table manners...my mouth area was all red.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 05:54:24 AM
yes white toast bread with butter and i must admit i have no table manners...my mouth area was all red.. ;D
That's exactly how I eat mine...I like white toast with alot of butter and I do have manners but I still manage to get butter running down my chin.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 22, 2012, 06:17:40 AM
NUTELLA ON WHOLE GRAIN BREAD,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 06:30:22 AM
NUTELLA ON WHOLE GRAIN BREAD,,,,
You're so healthy.   ;D

 :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 22, 2012, 06:33:29 AM
My ultimate favs are sweet hala bread, french bread of any kind and linseed with 7 seeds.  But for any kind of toast with soups I like white bread and lots of butter and thats how I eat vegemite on toast too...it must be white and buttered well. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 22, 2012, 07:03:21 AM
I really should try harder to have table manners...just canīt help it... :-[
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 22, 2012, 02:10:24 PM
::)
do you know how much you've been moaning about your nose ?

Don't you suppose if your nose were throbbing, you might "moan" about it too?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 22, 2012, 04:06:30 PM
quads
leg press warmed up with 2 per side then,,,,,,4 plates.5,,6,,7,,7.5
hack squat 4 then 2 sets 5 plates per side
lunges up stairs 50 lb db up,down,up,down 2 x tough,heavy breath/heartbeat..
extensions x3//

hams
stifflegged deadlifts 185,235,255,
seated leg curl

calves
superset standing calf raise with leg press toe raise x3 nice pump,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 23, 2012, 12:59:48 AM
Chest, delts

db incline chest press x 6 sets
db incline flyes x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2012, 01:32:44 AM
quads
leg press warmed up with 2 per side then,,,,,,4 plates.5,,6,,7,,7.5
hack squat 4 then 2 sets 5 plates per side
lunges up stairs 50 lb db up,down,up,down 2 x tough,heavy breath/heartbeat..
extensions x3//

hams
stifflegged deadlifts 185,235,255,
seated leg curl

calves
superset standing calf raise with leg press toe raise x3 nice pump,,,
Lunges upstairs..jeez by the time you got to extensions you must have been walking like John Wayne..!! Hardcore
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 23, 2012, 04:13:45 AM
I've never heard of lunges upstairs. That would be a killer!   Great leg workout Njflex.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2012, 04:16:57 AM
I've never heard of lunges upstairs. That would be a killer!   Great leg workout Njflex.
I have years ago done walking up stairs with a sand bag on my shoulders and that is a killer. Lunges is new to me.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2012, 06:23:14 AM
yeah i have fallen in love with lunges lst few yrs great way to end workout,,,as for the stairs its about 20 steps up what i do i skip the 1st one and plant foot to 2nd and then skip again and other leg follows so its 12 up usually then turn around and its all 20 down i kinda fast pace down ,then turn around back up so i do this 2x then rest and go again 2x  and i use 50 lb dbells it hurts but nice hurt,,,i usually train with someone not yesterday i usually clock in at an 1 hr for quads,hams ,calves,,,thanxs for positive feedback..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2012, 06:44:19 AM
yeah i have fallen in love with lunges lst few yrs great way to end workout,,,as for the stairs its about 20 steps up what i do i skip the 1st one and plant foot to 2nd and then skip again and other leg follows so its 12 up usually then turn around and its all 20 down i kinda fast pace down ,then turn around back up so i do this 2x then rest and go again 2x  and i use 50 lb dbells it hurts but nice hurt,,,i usually train with someone not yesterday i usually clock in at an 1 hr for quads,hams ,calves,,,thanxs for positive feedback..
Itīs no wonder you have such great Leg development ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2012, 07:10:59 AM
Itīs no wonder you have such great Leg development ..
thanx donny,,,people at my gym kids/ older guys shake there heads and say u really like training legs,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on December 23, 2012, 09:41:16 AM
Don't you suppose if your nose were throbbing, you might "moan" about it too?

no

this is a training thread not a support group for whiners
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 23, 2012, 11:27:37 AM
so...i went for a nice easy jog tonight. Tomorrow Germans celebrate Xmas on the 24th..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 23, 2012, 01:26:27 PM
no

this is a training thread not a support group for whiners

Perhaps you are right. However, sometimes some things get in the way of training. I know I have come up with a goodly number of excuses lately.  ;)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 23, 2012, 03:20:30 PM
lifted today, bench, overhead press, bb rows, curls, and then a 2 mile walk with the dogs in the rain.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 23, 2012, 05:52:14 PM
chest today did a 'donny' workout a bit supersetting
pretty strong considering the pump..
fdb press 60,70,70,reps 12,10,8 supersetted with db flat flyes 40,45,45 dbs,,reps 10/10/8
smith incl supersetted with hammer mid press 10 reps per superset eac movement
cable crossovers with bodyweight dips  ,,,

tris
overhead rope outs supersetted with reverse grip pulldowns
tri dip machine superset w/pushdowns
finished cable kickbacks..

abs..

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 24, 2012, 04:38:02 AM
chest today did a 'donny' workout a bit supersetting
pretty strong considering the pump..
fdb press 60,70,70,reps 12,10,8 supersetted with db flat flyes 40,45,45 dbs,,reps 10/10/8
smith incl supersetted with hammer mid press 10 reps per superset eac movement
cable crossovers with bodyweight dips  ,,,

tris
overhead rope outs supersetted with reverse grip pulldowns
tri dip machine superset w/pushdowns
finished cable kickbacks..

abs..


Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 24, 2012, 04:53:28 AM
Nice workout njflex i like it. I will also superset today With my chest +back workout.

I will do a very short intense workout because of time limitations today(its Xmas Day in Germany):

Parallel Bar Dips  With
Chinning the bar  Maximum reps on Both Exercises For 5 sets each.

short but 5 hard sets on each and it will work all my pulling and pushing muscles. Quality of Training !!

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 24, 2012, 08:25:06 AM
TRAINING BOARDERS HAVE GOOD CHRISTMAS EVE,,,AND CHRISTMAS,,,,,2 DAYS OFF TRAINING  :),,,NEED IT,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 24, 2012, 09:01:14 AM
TRAINING BOARDERS HAVE GOOD CHRISTMAS EVE,,,AND CHRISTMAS,,,,,2 DAYS OFF TRAINING  :),,,NEED IT,,,
SAME TO YOU :::AND MERRY XMAS EVERYONE  ;D ;) ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 24, 2012, 02:27:19 PM
It's Christmas here now.  So Merry Christmas everyone and enjoy the time with your family!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 24, 2012, 03:16:21 PM
2 mile run and 1/2 hr on the heavy bag, peace and merry christmas.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 24, 2012, 03:44:26 PM
It's Christmas here now.  So Merry Christmas everyone and enjoy the time with your family!

Thanks for posting this. Merry Christmas to you too.

It is Christmas eve where I live. My wife and I are chilling out. We tried calling our son, but they were probably out at a German Christmas bash (fest). Germans celebrate on Christmas eve. I just ran to McDonald's for some chicken McNuggets for a snack for us. My suggestion for dinner was chicken enchiladas and salad. My wife thought that sound good. Tomorrow we are fixing a prime rib. We celebrate Christmas on Christmas day.

After Margie goes to bed, I'll wrap her presents. I am a last minute sort of guy with a Santa beard. LOL!   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2012, 09:30:24 AM
my christmas eve dinner even tho i'm american keeping italian tradition is some way,,,7 fishes course i do five have in laws over here the meal..
course 1
antipasto with provolone,parmigano reggiano,stuffed peppers with breadcrumbs,tomatoes,anchovies,,artichokes,assorted olives,shrimp cold,
mozzarella and tomatoe and basil ,pepperoni bread,baccala

course 2 cooked mussels with diced tomatoes and stuffed scallops,bread,,

course 3 lobster ravioli w vodka sauce,,

dessert ,,espresso,reg cofee,,homeade choc mousse,homeade cookies biscotti,peanut butter,apple pie,,

wine of course red,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 25, 2012, 03:48:05 PM
my christmas eve dinner even tho i'm american keeping italian tradition is some way,,,7 fishes course i do five have in laws over here the meal..
course 1
antipasto with provolone,parmigano reggiano,stuffed peppers with breadcrumbs,tomatoes,anchovies,,artichokes,assorted olives,shrimp cold,
mozzarella and tomatoe and basil ,pepperoni bread,baccala

course 2 cooked mussels with diced tomatoes and stuffed scallops,bread,,

course 3 lobster ravioli w vodka sauce,,

dessert ,,espresso,reg cofee,,homeade choc mousse,homeade cookies biscotti,peanut butter,apple pie,,

wine of course red,,,,

When is dinner served? I'll be there.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2012, 04:29:31 PM
When is dinner served? I'll be there.
lol....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 25, 2012, 04:32:07 PM
I want to come for dinner too.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 25, 2012, 04:45:54 PM
yeah good food and family,,,christmas day at mom's again nuts,,,
cheese ravioli,antipasto,sausage,meatball's,turkey ham white and pink,brussels sprouts,stuffing,espresso,baked cookies homeade,wine...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 25, 2012, 05:25:27 PM
yeah good food and family,,,christmas day at mom's again nuts,,,
cheese ravioli,antipasto,sausage,meatball's,turkey ham white and pink,brussels sprouts,stuffing,espresso,baked cookies homeade,wine...

You Italians, I don't know how you can eat such quantities of delicious food and not all be as big as houses. Is it the wine?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 25, 2012, 05:30:27 PM
Italian is my favourite food.  I reckon I could eat that alone and never touch another dish from any other culture/nationality. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 26, 2012, 02:16:38 AM
I have a bit of a hangover today...i am tempted to do a short workout... ;D It was the wine yesterday :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 26, 2012, 02:23:42 AM
No hang over but my kitten threw up on me at 1am and so I got very little sleep due to cleaning and then being cold all night as my doona was in the laundry.  I skipped my workout from lack of sleep. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 26, 2012, 02:25:54 AM
No hang over but my kitten threw up on me at 1am and so I got very little sleep due to cleaning and then being cold all night as my doona was in the laundry.  I skipped my workout from lack of sleep. 
later you can take a nap... I have 2 rabbits at home.. i like animals.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 26, 2012, 02:33:50 AM
later you can take a nap... I have 2 rabbits at home.. i like animals.
I love animals too, but I don't like being thrown up on when I am asleep. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 26, 2012, 03:44:10 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 26, 2012, 04:28:16 AM
Awwww I love their colourings, they are so cute Donny.  :) I had rabbits when I lived in Melbourne (Tolya and Natasha) but I couldn't bring them with me when I moved back to queensland as you need a permit here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 26, 2012, 04:07:42 PM
SMITH MACHINE SQUATS   4 SETS

LEG PRESS   3 SETS

LEG EXTENSIONS  3 SETS


STIFF LEG DEADLIFTS  3 SETS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 27, 2012, 01:27:39 AM
Nice to see the wild Willie with us..a simple no nonsence workout...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 27, 2012, 03:29:13 AM
Today is Shoulders +arms :

Pre exhaust superset with :
Side Db laterals strict seated + BB press 4x10( 12 reps on side laterals)
Rear delt raises with head on incline bench so no body swinging. 4x12

BB curls 5x10 superset with
Lying ez bar extensions 5x10

reverse ez bar curls on preacher bench 3x10+ superset with
BB wrist curls on flat bench 3x10+

I will finish off with some hanging knee raises for abs.. i will use my bench where i am supported on my arms. After a rest doing Abs i will do some pich grips.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 27, 2012, 04:40:56 AM
Nice to see the wild Willie with us..a simple no nonsence workout...
one of the finer posters on the whole board,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 27, 2012, 05:52:13 AM
one of the finer posters on the whole board,,,
I agree always very polite.. as you are too. I TRY to be nice... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 03:10:10 AM
so today i am going for a long cycle in the woods here on my moutain bike. Cycling is a great fat burner and works my legs and calfes..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 28, 2012, 04:01:08 AM
Bis, tris and abs followed by 20 mins on treadmill walking on incline

db bicep curls x 6 sets
barbell bicep curls x 6 sets
tricep pressdowns with V bar x 6 sets
rope pressdowns x 6 sets
Crunches x 100 reps
situps x 3 sets 15 reps per set  (should have done them before crunches)
crunches on ball x 2 sets

I began squeezing after my first set of crunches and had a lot of mucas in my nose.  I had to cut my ab training short as I then had so much swelling and mucas that I was blowing my nose into a tissue.  When I got home I used my air flow bottle to wash/cleanse my nose out.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 04:10:47 AM
nice ab workout ..well suppose you pre-exhausted them... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 28, 2012, 04:21:00 AM
nice ab workout ..well suppose you pre-exhausted them... ;D
I didn't really, that's the thing.  I only did a couple of reps on the ball before I decided to stop because I remembered the exact same thing happening last time I trained my abs.  More like I pre-exhausted my nose. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 05:11:38 AM
well the bike ride got kicked into touch...lol too lazy today...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 28, 2012, 05:18:33 AM
well the bike ride got kicked into touch...lol too lazy today...
Don't be lazy like me...go for that bike ride Donny!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 05:33:17 AM
Don't be lazy like me...go for that bike ride Donny!
too late...i just pigged out..iīm bloated now... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 28, 2012, 05:37:19 AM
so today i am going for a long cycle in the woods here on my moutain bike. Cycling is a great fat burner and works my legs and calfes..

thats funny I rode mine yesterday morning as well, just a 2 mile ride with the hounds up the mountain, nothing fancy.
 tried to lift yesterday evening and was exhausted. made it through bench [sloppy] and curls did a couple of sets of dips and that was it.

 2 mile run and heavy bag work today, we will see how that goes. Haven`t been sleeping right this week so at least I know why I am down.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 05:48:36 AM

thats funny I rode mine yesterday morning as well, just a 2 mile ride with the hounds up the mountain, nothing fancy.
 tried to lift yesterday evening and was exhausted. made it through bench [sloppy] and curls did a couple of sets of dips and that was it.

 2 mile run and heavy bag work today, we will see how that goes. Haven`t been sleeping right this week so at least I know why I am down.
Bike riding i find easy on the joints(as long as your seat is adjusted correctly). when i had my last bike before it got stolen.. ??? i cycled every day to work and it really kept me slim. I enjoyed it. I really only ran maybe a couple of times a week in between with a friend. cycling is a fun way to get your cardio in.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on December 28, 2012, 05:58:17 AM

thats funny I rode mine yesterday morning as well, just a 2 mile ride with the hounds up the mountain, nothing fancy.
 tried to lift yesterday evening and was exhausted. made it through bench [sloppy] and curls did a couple of sets of dips and that was it.

 2 mile run and heavy bag work today, we will see how that goes. Haven`t been sleeping right this week so at least I know why I am down.

how long do you work on the bag ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 28, 2012, 06:37:42 AM
 I wind up working at it for 25 to 30 minutes, I have a stopwatch and go for a minute and a half on, then 1 minute off just working on combos, after about 20 minutes of that I do 2 drills where you go in throw 10 punches and back out for 1 and 1/2 minutes. I finish with 2 rounds of a drill I call 1 to 20, you start throwing 1 punch and back out, 2 punches and back out all the way up to 20 hits in a flurry. It usually takes me up to the threshold of barfing,  :D,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 28, 2012, 07:04:59 AM
I TOOK 2 DAYS OFF FOR HOLIDAY MON,TUES,,,WED CAME AND SNOW /SLEET IN JERSEY MY MOM WAS GOING TO COME OVER TO WATCH KIDS FOR ME TO TRAIN SHE COULDN'T COME DUE TO WEATHER SO I DID A DUMBELL,PUSHUP THING IN BASEMENT FOR PUMP SOME LATERALS,CURLS,RAISES,TRI KICKBACKS,ONE HANDED EXTENSIONS ONLY HAD LIGHT DUMBELL ,,YESTERDAY MAKE UP FOR BODYPARTS MISSED WED/THURS BACK,BI,CALVES,DELTS DID A CURCUIT BUT HEAVY WEIGHT DID THIS,,,,

CURCUIT 1 2X AROUND...DB PRESS,,TBAR ROW,,BICEP CURL
CURCUIT 2 2 X  SIDE RAISE,LOW ROW,SEAT DB CURL
CURCUIT 3 2X ..HAMMER REVERSE PULLDOWN,,,BENT OVER REAR RAISE CABLE,,DB CURL ELBOW TO THIGH
CURCUIT 4 2X,,CABLE UPRIGHT WITH HANDLES ...STANDUP PULLOVER/PULLDOWN,,,SEATED SCOTT CURL MACHINE
CURCUIT 5..ABS ROMAN SITUP,LAYING DOWN ON FLOOR FEET ON BENCH CRUNCH 10 LB PLATE,,,CALF RAISE 3 X AROUND...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 28, 2012, 07:47:58 AM
yes Circuit training can be brutal ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 28, 2012, 03:26:24 PM
Bike riding i find easy on the joints(as long as your seat is adjusted correctly). when i had my last bike before it got stolen.. ??? i cycled every day to work and it really kept me slim. I enjoyed it. I really only ran maybe a couple of times a week in between with a friend. cycling is a fun way to get your cardio in.

Many years ago, my doctor told me to stop running and start riding my bicycle more. He thought running was harmful to one's health. Maybe it was because I was forever twisting my knee by stepping wrong on the curb or some such thing. The Portland metro area is filled with bicycle paths and right-of-ways. Despite this, you often read about someone getting hit by a car while riding their bikes. A lot of folks act like bicycle riders shouldn't be on the road. I like riding my bicycle in good weather. However, I think my doctor was mistaken about it not being harmful to one's health. It seems more bicyclist are run over than joggers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 12:50:57 AM
Well it's the next day and I am still swallowing mucas from my nose and it's pretty blocked and swollen.  I got very little sleep last night because I worked myself up over it all.  And yes i am disappointed in myself for being so weak minded and allowing this to get to me.  I haven't trained today because I didn't know if I should or not. The level headed side of me says to listen to my body, be smart etc but then another side is telling me to just go to gym.   Do I push myself?  I have basically tore into myself so bad today that now I need to train for my sanity and for the endorphins.  So I am writing this so that now I have no choice but to go to gym. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2012, 02:34:03 AM
Well it's the next day and I am still swallowing mucas from my nose and it's pretty blocked and swollen.  I got very little sleep last night because I worked myself up over it all.  And yes i am disappointed in myself for being so weak minded and allowing this to get to me.  I haven't trained today because I didn't know if I should or not. The level headed side of me says to listen to my body, be smart etc but then another side is telling me to just go to gym.   Do I push myself?  I have basically tore into myself so bad today that now I need to train for my sanity and for the endorphins.  So I am writing this so that now I have no choice but to go to gym. 
maybe just do 2 sets on each exercise Karen. 2 good sets are enough. Today i will get my bubble butt outside and will run at 6pm with a friend. He is a runner and i know it will hurt, sweat out the booze ;D before hand i will work legs(not a good idea if i run later but i will just have to) Today:

Dumbbell squats 4x15
Dumbbell stiff legged Deadlifts 4x15
Dumbbell lunges 3x10
one legged Dumbbell calf raise 5x12+

Ab crunches calves on a Bench 3x max

thatīs it very simple and i like Dumbbells too..higher reps.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2012, 02:44:24 AM
Many years ago, my doctor told me to stop running and start riding my bicycle more. He thought running was harmful to one's health. Maybe it was because I was forever twisting my knee by stepping wrong on the curb or some such thing. The Portland metro area is filled with bicycle paths and right-of-ways. Despite this, you often read about someone getting hit by a car while riding their bikes. A lot of folks act like bicycle riders shouldn't be on the road. I like riding my bicycle in good weather. However, I think my doctor was mistaken about it not being harmful to one's health. It seems more bicyclist are run over than joggers.
well over here itīs not too bad because there are good cycle paths but i know what you mean. The guy who iīm running with later does Tri- athlon stuff too and has a top racer bike. He told me when he was training for competition on the roads he got a lot of abuse from drivers. Of course my Mountain bike is not expensive and itīs really just for around this area. nice cycle path near me that leads into woods so itīs great.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 03:24:42 AM
maybe just do 2 sets on each exercise Karen. 2 good sets are enough.

Legs (excluding calves) followed by 20 mins of treadmill

Barbell back squats x 4 sets  (kept it light but high reps at 20 per set)
SLD x 4 sets  (high reps again, moderate weight)
thigh extension machine x 4 sets

My quads were really feeling it during squats.  I haven't done any compound movements such as squats for months due to the fact that I had pretty bad asthma as a result of the sinus blockage and had little air getting down into my lungs.  This is probably my fav exercise for legs, so it was really good to do it again.  It made me happy anyway, which is what I needed.  With the combo of squats and SLD, my hamstrings were cramping up so I only did a short workout today.  I bumped into a couple of really good friends natty bb competitors and they gave me the prep talk that I needed to hear.  She said that my cortisol levels will be through the roof, which won't be helping and I already knew this.  Anyway it was good to hear this from friends which know me well and had a positive effect.  So I feel normal again.  I am just going to listen to my body and not push it too hard too soon... will do it gradually and not put pressure on myself. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 03:28:14 AM
maybe just do 2 sets on each exercise Karen. 2 good sets are enough. Today i will get my bubble butt outside and will run at 6pm with a friend. He is a runner and i know it will hurt, sweat out the booze ;D before hand i will work legs(not a good idea if i run later but i will just have to) Today:

Dumbbell squats 4x15
Dumbbell stiff legged Deadlifts 4x15
Dumbbell lunges 3x10
one legged Dumbbell calf raise 5x12+

Ab crunches calves on a Bench 3x max

thatīs it very simple and i like Dumbbells too..higher reps.
I find that legs respond well to high reps Donny.  I like to do 30 reps per set for leg exercises to start with and as I increase weight, I still do high reps (25 ) but at the end of my sets (5th and 6th) I am doing max weight for 6-8 reps.  I go for the burn and just push past it...zone out. 
It's going to kill you though to train legs and then go for a run.  Good luck..haha 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 05:38:14 AM
booty never commented on ur nose situation hope it gets better ur training still like nothings there but its frustrating i bet,,,yeah high reps/volume for me is what works,,i still squat heavy every few leg workouts for ego 6/8 rep set 405 brutal,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 05:48:37 AM
booty never commented on ur nose situation hope it gets better ur training still like nothings there but its frustrating i bet,,,yeah high reps/volume for me is what works,,i still squat heavy every few leg workouts for ego 6/8 rep set 405 brutal,,,,
Thank you njflex and yes it's frustrating as hell.  I am very hard on myself which doesn't help.  Just got to take my own advice which I would dish out to others, that's all. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 06:51:35 AM
once in a while i like to throw a pic or 2 here how i maintain a peak build at 44  :P....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2012, 07:13:34 AM
once in a while i like to throw a pic or 2 here how i maintain a peak build at 44  :P....
like the Tartan shorts... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 07:16:17 AM
like the Tartan shorts... ;D
;D....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 29, 2012, 07:27:02 AM
i used have a pair of Tartan Y-fronts years ago... ;D well i have a couple hours rest untill i go for a run. Legs are OK.. would have went tomorrow but no time. Yes njflex a solid looking physique as always... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 29, 2012, 07:37:57 AM
You look pretty good flex - no homo. Thats about what I am shooting for this summer, except with more hair.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 09:41:58 AM
i keep simple approach,,i like training for one,,i eat home cooked clean foods,,,rice brown,oats,greek yogurt,cooked chicken,fish,canned tuna as well,fruits everyday 3-4 services no matter what day/weekends,,i eat peanutbutter/olive oil for extra fats,,snacks could be low fat graham crackers or wheat crackers,or some low fat icecream if needed/wanted.train 4x per wk abs and calves done 2x everything else once ,,train with some volume depending body part larger 15/16 smaller 9/11,,,train smart in terms of weight but pretty heavy relative for me ,,example heavy weight on squats for me is 405 repped 8 zone,,,bent over rows 225/255 heaviest set,,hard to believe i do zero 'cardio'diet and fast intense training keeps me ripped...a little insight on my routine...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 04:50:25 PM
Good Physquie njflex.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 07:21:11 PM
Good Physquie njflex.
thank you booty,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 29, 2012, 07:56:42 PM
So my diet consists of plenty of salads especially in this hot weather.  I eat no red meat what so ever, but eat plenty of fish especially salmon and I eat alot of prawns (shrimp for yanks) and callamari.  Basically I eat any seafoods apart from octopus, that's the only thing I won't touch.  I eat alot of veges although not so much in this hot weather....save it more for winter.  Sweet potatoe really agrees with me as does rice.  I don't touch brown rice though as it makes me incredibly lethargic.  I love fruits, especially bananas because I can always carry one with me and eat where ever.  I will take a banana with me to the gym to eat afterwards.  I eat chicken and turkey but lately I have only eaten chicken once in the past two months for some reason.  Just been sticking to fish.  I drink as much water as I can during the day.  No soft drinks ever...the bubbles really upset my stomach lately and I am unable to drink anything with bubbles.  I used to drink an occasional pepsi max but due to the tummy upset, no longer do.  I gave up tea a while ago so the only caffeine I drink is two cups of coffee in the mornings with soy milk...no sugar.  I will drink a mocha on soy when out with my girlfriends though.  That's like a splurge.  I like oats for breakfast (save the horse jokes  :P) and I eat egg white omlettes either with mixed veges or just plain.  I like a slow release protein powder...bsn syntha6 is the one I use and have for the past 5 years.  I used to use a wpi but to be honest it's like water...it does nothing for hunger and I feel I get better results on a slow release one. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on December 29, 2012, 08:45:40 PM
LOOKING GREAT, NJ!!!!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 09:05:37 PM
So my diet consists of plenty of salads especially in this hot weather.  I eat no red meat what so ever, but eat plenty of fish especially salmon and I eat alot of prawns (shrimp for yanks) and callamari.  Basically I eat any seafoods apart from octopus, that's the only thing I won't touch.  I eat alot of veges although not so much in this hot weather....save it more for winter.  Sweet potatoe really agrees with me as does rice.  I don't touch brown rice though as it makes me incredibly lethargic.  I love fruits, especially bananas because I can always carry one with me and eat where ever.  I will take a banana with me to the gym to eat afterwards.  I eat chicken and turkey but lately I have only eaten chicken once in the past two months for some reason.  Just been sticking to fish.  I drink as much water as I can during the day.  No soft drinks ever...the bubbles really upset my stomach lately and I am unable to drink anything with bubbles.  I used to drink an occasional pepsi max but due to the tummy upset, no longer do.  I gave up tea a while ago so the only caffeine I drink is two cups of coffee in the mornings with soy milk...no sugar.  I will drink a mocha on soy when out with my girlfriends though.  That's like a splurge.  I like oats for breakfast (save the horse jokes  :P) and I eat egg white omlettes either with mixed veges or just plain.  I like a slow release protein powder...bsn syntha6 is the one I use and have for the past 5 years.  I used to use a wpi but to be honest it's like water...it does nothing for hunger and I feel I get better results on a slow release one. 

nice,,,,after u mention it brown rice makes me tired too couldn't figure it out ,,,i eat it but sometimes it does that,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 29, 2012, 09:06:17 PM
LOOKING GREAT, NJ!!!!
thanx willie,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 29, 2012, 11:27:25 PM
....I eat alot of prawns (shrimp for yanks).... 


Just so you know, we also have prawns in the U.S. The main difference between shrimp and prawns is size. Prawns are larger. The other difference is price. Prawns are more expensive than shrimp.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 30, 2012, 01:29:34 AM
Just so you know, we also have prawns in the U.S. The main difference between shrimp and prawns is size. Prawns are larger. The other difference is price. Prawns are more expensive than shrimp.
Prime i hope some day i get an invite for dinner because you seem to like good food.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 30, 2012, 06:13:05 AM
so today i will rest and get a good solid workout in tomorrow. Tonight a good walk and i will sleep well after lots of fresh air
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Prime i hope some day i get an invite for dinner because you seem to like good food.. ;)

My wife and I do like to eat well. Years ago, my wife did catering on the side. We were both probably somewhat spoiled as kids with respect to the fact that our parents could afford to feed us well. The first eight years of my life, I lived with a variety of relatives all over the world. Because of this, I was exposed to a lot more foods then the average kid would be. Most 5 year olds don't travel to Europe on an ocean liner such as the SS Ile de France, sitting at the captain's table for meals because their grandmother and the captain are old friends and eating foods like turtle soup. My early exposure to a huge variety of foods resulted in my willingness to try almost anything once. There is very little that I don't like eating. 

I don't think my wife and I are food snobs though. Last night we had red beans and rice for dinner. The other night we had tuna noodle casserole. Sometimes we eat chicken pot pies from Costco. For breakfast today we had Eggo waffles.  So it isn't as if we eat sword fish, filet mignon or lobster all the time. However, we generally feed guests something a little fancier than tuna noodle casserole. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on December 30, 2012, 03:21:09 PM
mmmm food. We don`t go for the exotic here but something can be said for raising your own beef. When I have a steer butchered I get to decide on how thick I want my steaks, if you are a guest in my home a T-bone and inch and half thick will be put on your plate. Nothing like eating a nice steak that would set you back well over $100 in a premium steakhouse.
 I have a way of smoking them over hickory that makes for some of the finest steaks you have ever tasted.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 30, 2012, 06:00:02 PM
mmmm food. We don`t go for the exotic here but something can be said for raising your own beef. When I have a steer butchered I get to decide on how thick I want my steaks, if you are a guest in my home a T-bone and inch and half thick will be put on your plate. Nothing like eating a nice steak that would set you back well over $100 in a premium steakhouse.
 I have a way of smoking them over hickory that makes for some of the finest steaks you have ever tasted.

I lived on a cousin's farm when I was 7 years old. They butchered a young steer every year. No beef has ever compared to the what that beef. It was a dairy farm. The ice-cream we churned in the summer was out of this world. There was always fresh milk and butter too. Too bad my stay with them was cut short or I would probably have put on some size as a kid.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2012, 02:34:22 AM
first time i went to Canada i could not believe how big the steaks were..love a good steak.. Today i will train chest+back:

Flat Dumbbell press 3x superset with
Barbell rows 3x

Incline Barbell press 3x superset with
chin ups 3x
 
Barbell pullovers 2x superset with
Flat Dumbbell flys 2x

the last superset of BB pullovers and DB flyes should be intresting...  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 31, 2012, 02:49:21 AM
I was supose to train today, but the heavy rain has kept me from driving to the gym.   I don't want to get soaking wet and then train in air conditioning.  Plus I woke up with ear ache and pain behind my eyes due to the swelling in my nose...it still hasn't gone down from the other day.  I will be stepping out of my comfort zone tomorrow when I train and doing something different.  I will post up my programme when I train. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2012, 02:53:43 AM
I was supose to train today, but the heavy rain has kept me from driving to the gym.   I don't want to get soaking wet and then train in air conditioning.  Plus I woke up with ear ache and pain behind my eyes due to the swelling in my nose...it still hasn't gone down from the other day.  I will be stepping out of my comfort zone tomorrow when I train and doing something different.  I will post up my programme when I train.  
take it easy today. look after yourself. I will train and then see in the New Year itīs 11.52AM here now. My 2 sons are going out to partys and i will have a quite night at home. Did enough celebrating over Xmas...lol.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on December 31, 2012, 03:11:00 AM
take it easy today. look after yourself. I will train and then see in the New Year itīs 11.52AM here now. My 2 sons are going out to partys and i will have a quite night at home. Did enough celebrating over Xmas...lol.
Yes I will be training on new years day also Donny.  It's a good way to start off 2013.  I am having a quiet one also tonight.  I just heard the fire works go off, so they did decide to do them after all here.  But I couldn't see anything from my house and usually I can.  So I dare say the rain has played a role in that.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on December 31, 2012, 03:19:20 AM
yes i will watch then too here..itīs very mild outside and no snow. was a bit windy last night as i was walking but i like a fresh wind. I wish you all a great time for New year( we celebrate at diffrent times i know due to the time zones)..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on December 31, 2012, 05:29:52 PM
take it easy today. look after yourself. I will train and then see in the New Year itīs 11.52AM here now. My 2 sons are going out to partys and i will have a quite night at home. Did enough celebrating over Xmas...lol.

We are staying in tonight. Dinner is cheese fondue and salad with homemade cookies for desert. I cannot remember the last time we went out on New Year's Eve. What's the point? If you have a drink and your smart, you'll take a cab home. The police are always out in full force on New Year's. At least if your home, you don't have to worry about all the other crazy folks on the road and if you want a drink then so what?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on December 31, 2012, 09:10:50 PM
happy 2013 in jersey its 12:10 am,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 03:06:03 AM
any sore heads on here...? ;D well i am sore today(my muscles) after my workout yesterday. The combination of BB pullovers and DB flyes was very hard. I knew it would be best to do this at the end. I used lighter weight on the flyes too because i wanted to keep good form... being careful on my shoulders.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 01, 2013, 04:44:43 AM
No alcohol for me Donny, so the only thing sore on me is my quads (still but almost recovered) and the tip of my nose (from swelling).  I didn't train today, just watched movies as I figured I would give my body and nose one more day of rest.  Happy New Year to all! 
All I have wanted all day is cheesecake, but couldn't find any place open for it.  I will get some this week when everything opens here again. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 06:09:25 AM
No alcohol for me Donny, so the only thing sore on me is my quads (still but almost recovered) and the tip of my nose (from swelling).  I didn't train today, just watched movies as I figured I would give my body and nose one more day of rest.  Happy New Year to all! 
All I have wanted all day is cheesecake, but couldn't find any place open for it.  I will get some this week when everything opens here again. 
Cheesecake i love ! :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 01, 2013, 06:50:20 AM
No alcohol for me. I did get a big slice of cherry cheesecake last night and one cupcake, little cheat eating at a party but nothing more. Went to bed a 2:30, dogs let me sleep in til 8 and said thats enough, out of bed.  :D
 Lifted sunday, boxing and running yesterday, today when the rain lets up I want to take the dogs on a nice 3 mile walk up the mountain. I am considering starting to carry my backpack again, I used to load it with freeweights wrapped in towels and hike. You would be surprised how much just a 30lb pack can work your legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 07:08:19 AM
No alcohol for me. I did get a big slice of cherry cheesecake last night and one cupcake, little cheat eating at a party but nothing more. Went to bed a 2:30, dogs let me sleep in til 8 and said thats enough, out of bed.  :D
 Lifted sunday, boxing and running yesterday, today when the rain lets up I want to take the dogs on a nice 3 mile walk up the mountain. I am considering starting to carry my backpack again, I used to load it with freeweights wrapped in towels and hike. You would be surprised how much just a 30lb pack can work your legs.
Good post.. walking with a weighted rucksack is great. One thing i found intresting was in Steve Reeves Book "Building the Classic physique the Natural way" he said he devised a weight belt filled with shot that in his words..."the midsection is where the human body can naturally carry the most weight , just above the hip bones . so it is a perfect place to add weight in exercising". with this he advised hand weights.. i have always used a rucksack as you do and have never tried a belt. I have also thought about getting a weighted vest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 01, 2013, 01:02:40 PM
Good post.. walking with a weighted rucksack is great. One thing i found intresting was in Steve Reeves Book "Building the Classic physique the Natural way" he said he devised a weight belt filled with shot that in his words..."the midsection is where the human body can naturally carry the most weight , just above the hip bones . so it is a perfect place to add weight in exercising". with this he advised hand weights.. i have always used a rucksack as you do and have never tried a belt. I have also thought about getting a weighted vest.

Steve Reeves also wrote that he built his calves delivering newspapers in a hilly area on a bicycle as a kid. In those days bikes had one speed (I know, I had one) so it was all leg work and he must have had to stand to pedal up those hills with a canvas newspaper bag filled with papers. I never had a paper route, but a friend did. I would help him deliver papers sometimes so he could get done quicker and we could do other stuff like ride to the beach. Apparently, I didn't do this often enough since my calves are weak.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 01:28:50 PM
as a kid i did a paper round too as we called it. The boss was an ex Argyll Sgt Maj and i have to say i liked him. was a hard guy but sound as a pound. later i did a milk round ..we hung on the back of a milk wagon and jumped off with a crate of milk or 2 cariers with 6 in each (hand) run like hell and run door to door . I still believe to this day i found the Army fitness entrance run not easy but "ok" because of my activity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 01, 2013, 01:49:36 PM
back today
chins x3 12/15 reps
tbar row wide grip chest to pad type
low cable row wide bar
bent over row last set 225 repped
reverse hammer pulldown single arm

weighted hypers

bi's
straight bar curls
concentration curls
scott curl machine
2 set finish alt db curls 12 rep sets

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 02:05:31 PM
back today
chins x3 12/15 reps
tbar row wide grip chest to pad type
low cable row wide bar
bent over row last set 225 repped
reverse hammer pulldown single arm

weighted hypers

bi's
straight bar curls
concentration curls
scott curl machine
2 set finish alt db curls 12 rep sets

abs
consistant and hard as always !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 01, 2013, 03:23:17 PM
Everyone has eaten cheesecake except for me.   I am over the craving now. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 01, 2013, 04:16:06 PM
Everyone has eaten cheesecake except for me.   I am over the craving now. 
i want some... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 01, 2013, 05:42:18 PM
i want some... ;D
Enjoy then.  I won't be...have decided I have a six pack of hard rock abs to compete with. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 01, 2013, 06:06:44 PM
booty do u like key lime cheescake....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 01, 2013, 06:29:58 PM
booty do u like key lime cheescake....
Yes I do. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 02, 2013, 04:58:16 AM
so today i will train legs:

pre-exhaust supersets:

leg extensions 3x15
Front Squats   3x15

Leg curls 3x15
stiff legged deads 3x15
 
Jumping rope with
standind one legged calf raises 3x 15( will maybe go over 15 reps and then partial reps to failure)

Abs.. Double crunches 2x 50 superset with  lying leg raises max reps.. i will enjoy the pain  ;)

so there we have it very simple and the front squats will stimulate my front quads a bit diffrent. A fast moving workout to get me sweating.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 02, 2013, 05:39:42 AM
so today i will train legs:

pre-exhaust supersets:

leg extensions 3x15
Front Squats   3x15

Leg curls 3x15
stiff legged deads 3x15
 
Jumping rope with
standind one legged calf raises 3x 15( will maybe go over 15 reps and then partial reps to failure)

Abs.. Double crunches 2x 50 superset with  lying leg raises max reps.. i will enjoy the pain  ;)

so there we have it very simple and the front squats will stimulate my front quads a bit diffrent. A fast moving workout to get me sweating.

NICE,,,,I'VE DONE THOSE TYPE WORKOUTS PUMP IS EXCRUCIATING,,,LEGS RESPOND TO HIGHER REPS I THINK,,HEAVY LOAD WORKOUTS LOW TO MID REP SQUATS AND LEG PRESSES HAVE THERE PLACE,,BUT VOLUME /HI REP 12-15 IS THE BEST ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 02, 2013, 06:48:06 AM
Anyone setting goals for this year? For me I am going to keep it pretty simple, stay healthy and hang with a steady routine. I already know work is going to be a ball buster this year so my aim is consitency, slow steady progress. I have some numbers I would like to reach of course but staying with the workouts when work gets busy will probably be the biggest challenge.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 02, 2013, 09:32:36 AM
Anyone setting goals for this year? For me I am going to keep it pretty simple, stay healthy and hang with a steady routine. I already know work is going to be a ball buster this year so my aim is consitency, slow steady progress. I have some numbers I would like to reach of course but staying with the workouts when work gets busy will probably be the biggest challenge.
A good post. maybe you can do an abbreviated routine when your very busy and will keep you "ticking over". when iīm very busy i do this and just concentrate on the important basic exercises. My goals are really pretty much the same as yours...i think a good goal is to try to be positive and keep healthy. Funny i met an old friend the other day who i have not seen for 9/10 years and he said iīm quieter.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 02, 2013, 12:55:11 PM
Anyone setting goals for this year? For me I am going to keep it pretty simple, stay healthy and hang with a steady routine. I already know work is going to be a ball buster this year so my aim is consitency, slow steady progress. I have some numbers I would like to reach of course but staying with the workouts when work gets busy will probably be the biggest challenge.

If you mean like making resolutions, then no. I don't believe in that. However, I do expect to get back into good exercise routine, which I have fallen away from in the past year. I am also going to try to keep it simple and not become obsessed with working out, like I've sometimes done in the past. At the grand old age of 68 with friends and family dropping like flies, I've concluded that variety is the spice of life. I will make every effort to live life to its fullest each and every day because one never knows which day will be their last one.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 02, 2013, 01:29:03 PM
If you mean like making resolutions, then no. I don't believe in that. However, I do expect to get back into good exercise routine, which I havefallen away from in the past year. I am also going to try to keep it simple and not become obsessed with working out, like I've sometimes done in the past. At the grand old age of 68 with friends and family dropping like flies, I've concluded that variety is the spice of life. I will make every effort to live life to its fullest each and every day because one never knows which day will be their last one.
prime...you will i am sure be around for a long Time  yet
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 02, 2013, 06:05:58 PM
prime...you will i am sure be around for a long Time  yet

Not to be melodramatic or anything, but some days I would agree with you and sometimes I feel very old and tired.

Today, I found out that a cousin of mine just died a few days ago in his sleep. Armand was just 71 years old, two and a half years older than me. He was a farmer in the Midwest and he was hardy fellow. When I was a kid of seven and lived with these cousins, he was like my big brother. This part of my family are hardy people who live good clean uncomplicated lives for the most part. They should out live the rest of us.

Three days ago, a good friend's husband, who is younger than I am, fell and fractured his skull among other injuries. He was put on a permanent feeding tube today as well as other life support since he cannot breath on his own. Frankly, it doesn't look good for him.

A long time ago, a friend and fellow bodybuilder (actually he got me started bodybuilding) complained to me that you really start to realize how mortal you are when your contemporaries start dying. Well guess what? My contemporaries have been dying for some time now.

The weather was beautiful today as I drove around running errands. The sun was out and the air was crisp. I had my two puppies in the car with me. It was one of those days when you just want to live forever....but sadly, that isn't possible.
 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 02, 2013, 07:51:43 PM
Not to be melodramatic or anything, but some days I would agree with you and sometimes I feel very old and tired.

Today, I found out that a cousin of mine just died a few days ago in his sleep. Armand was just 71 years old, two and a half years older than me. He was a farmer in the Midwest and he was hardy fellow. When I was a kid of seven and lived with these cousins, he was like my big brother. This part of my family are hardy people who live good clean uncomplicated lives for the most part. They should out live the rest of us.

Three days ago, a good friend's husband, who is younger than I am, fell and fractured his skull among other injuries. He was put on a permanent feeding tube today as well as other life support since he cannot breath on his own. Frankly, it doesn't look good for him.

A long time ago, a friend and fellow bodybuilder (actually he got me started bodybuilding) complained to me that you really start to realize how mortal you are when your contemporaries start dying. Well guess what? My contemporaries have been dying for some time now.

The weather was beautiful today as I drove around running errands. The sun was out and the air was crisp. I had my two puppies in the car with me. It was one of those days when you just want to live forever....but sadly, that isn't possible.
 
tough news,,,but your health is still ok considering prime,,,and think u never know you could go 10 20 more yrs to late 80's 90 like nothing,,,but yeah time passes very fast :-\,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2013, 01:15:03 AM
so Today i wanted to use my bike and not my car..but itīs raining heavy today :(. Maybe tonight when iīm home it will be ok to go for a run or walk...how are you feeling today Karen?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 01:29:44 AM
so Today i wanted to use my bike and not my car..but itīs raining heavy today :(. Maybe tonight when iīm home it will be ok to go for a run or walk...how are you feeling today Karen?
I haven't exercised in 3 days so am feeling very frustrated.  I am off to gym with a taped nose. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2013, 02:35:23 AM
Cheer up Karen  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 03:49:52 AM
Cheer up Karen  ;)
Easier said than done.   30 mins treadmill....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2013, 03:50:44 AM
Easier said than done.   30 mins treadmill....
proud of you Girl... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 04:02:03 AM
proud of you Girl... ;D
Haha thanks   ;D  I will tape my nose tonight before bed so that no swelling will occur and then tomorrow I will do the programme that I have.  I did notice that I got no additional swelling from my cardio with my nose taped so that is a good thing. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 03, 2013, 11:17:06 AM
tonight i went for an hour walk, was raining a bit but was very refreshing. Finished off with some Abs at home.. Basic crunches on the floor(feet flat on floor) 3 sets to failure and some twisting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 03, 2013, 11:34:16 AM
Had a good hike [light pack] yesterday, today was lifting. Bench, bb rows, curls and since the sun was out I carried the bar outside and did 3 sets of clean and press. Nice to be out in the sun. Followed that with a 20 min ride on the mountain bike for legs. For some reason my legs REALLY respond to that bike.
 Tomorrow is run and heavy bag.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 06:08:11 PM
There was less swelling in my nose when I woke after a night of having it taped.  I am not sure if I am taping it correctly but since I have an appointment tomorrow with a surgeon he can tell me if it's right.  I will do my programme today and write it up afterwards. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 03, 2013, 06:52:39 PM
On Saturday, we are having a big birthday party for my wife. Her sister and her husband are coming down from Seattle to put the party on at our house. So once again, my exercise has been to spend time in the yard making it perfect. My wife's sister is a master gardener. Just a little more to go and I'll have all the fall/winter clean-up done.

I was going to hit the gym on Wednesday, but I got caught up doing a bunch of errands and it was too late by the time I got home. That is probably okay since all the folks who made New Year's resolutions to get fit were probably crowding the gym. It is looking like next week is the week where I have no more excuses and I will be in the gym getting myself fit as a fiddle.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 09:39:59 PM
So I took this programme out of Kranks training journal.  My times will be terrible but you have to start somewhere.  I didn't get all the reps for pushups...just couldn't do 21 reps so I did what I could.  My nose was throbbing afterwards where the incision was made which is between my nostrils.  Got a bit of mucus buildup as well.  


Pushing:  Push press, dips, pushups

reps 21 for each, then 15 reps for each and then 9 for each.

time:  8.30 mins 72 secs

Pull:  Pullups, curls  ( I did assisted pullup machine)

reps, same above  21,15,9

time:  6.22 mins 50 secs

I am going to go brisk walking outdoors later at around 6pm when the sun isn't as strong.  Will walk for one hour.  I just want that mental relaxation which walking gives me.

Edit:  I decided to not go brisk walking as my shoulders feel heavy and my body feels tired after that workout.  It's setting in.  Plus my nose is very blocked.  I will be in the kitchen instead making a nice spinach salad, potatoe bake and salmon.   :P
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 03, 2013, 11:15:44 PM
I am going to take another programme from Kranks journal tomorrow.  I like that one where you do barbell back squats and then do a set of back extensions and repeat.  I know I would like this one. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 12:04:30 AM
I'm a little over half the requisite age to participate in this thread; when should I go on PEDs?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 01:15:32 AM
I'm a little over half the requisite age to participate in this thread; when should I go on PEDs?
How old are you because this thread is for anybody over 40 and there is a range of ages on here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 02:22:16 AM
I am going to take another programme from Kranks journal tomorrow.  I like that one where you do barbell back squats and then do a set of back extensions and repeat.  I know I would like this one.  
yes why not karen.. who said anyone hast to train in a certain way? results are what matters. some great workouts on here from everyone. Itīs great to see this area of the Forum come alive on other threads too.
Had a good hike [light pack] yesterday, today was lifting. Bench, bb rows, curls and since the sun was out I carried the bar outside and did 3 sets of clean and press. Nice to be out in the sun. Followed that with a 20 min ride on the mountain bike for legs. For some reason my legs REALLY respond to that bike.
 Tomorrow is run and heavy bag.
i like the workout basic and outdoor too. clean and press i think i will do today in my shoulder and arm workout :) some great variety in workouts here from you all..good ideas for me too ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 02:25:19 AM
yes why not karen.. who said anyone hast to train in a certain way? results are what matters. some great workouts on here from everyone. Itīs great to see this area of the Forum come alive on other threads too. i like the workout basic and outdoor too. clean and press i think i will do today in my shoulder and arm workout :) some great variety in workouts here from you all..good ideas for me too ;)
Yes it's good to mix it up and we can learn from each other.   :) 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 02:25:28 AM
On Saturday, we are having a big birthday party for my wife. Her sister and her husband are coming down from Seattle to put the party on at our house. So once again, my exercise has been to spend time in the yard making it perfect. My wife's sister is a master gardener. Just a little more to go and I'll have all the fall/winter clean-up done.

I was going to hit the gym on Wednesday, but I got caught up doing a bunch of errands and it was too late by the time I got home. That is probably okay since all the folks who made New Year's resolutions to get fit were probably crowding the gym. It is looking like next week is the week where I have no more excuses and I will be in the gym getting myself fit as a fiddle.
I think its great that you keep busy prime..you are very much in demand by the sounds of it !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 02:26:41 AM
Yes it's good to mix it up and we can learn from each other.   :) 
yes thatīs the idea to motivate each other and learn from each other...well put Karen.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 02:29:26 AM
How old are you because this thread is for anybody over 40 and there is a range of ages on here. 

62.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 03:00:39 AM
62.
Welcome to the mature bunch.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 03:36:15 AM
My nose is suffering tonight.  I have alot of mucus where I am constantly blowing my nose and it's so swollen and tender on the knob.  I think that's what you call the end of the nose...the button bit?  Anyway I am seeing a surgeon tomorrow and he will check that I am healing properly.  Apparently he's going to have a good look in my nose. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 03:53:15 AM
My nose is suffering tonight.  I have alot of mucus where I am constantly blowing my nose and it's so swollen and tender on the knob.  I think that's what you call the end of the nose...the button bit?  Anyway I am seeing a surgeon tomorrow and he will check that I am healing properly.  Apparently he's going to have a good look in my nose. 
never had anyone look up my nose before..aparantly i snore quite loud... :) so workout today:
Shoulders are a Triset:

Clean and press 4x10
sde laterals       4x12
bent over laterals 4x12

Incline DB curls  3x8-10
Barbell reverse curls 3x 10+
Dumbbell wrist curls 3x10+

pull over and press 3x10
lying extensions Hammer grip Dumbbells 3x10

only two exercises for Triceps due to shoulder press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 04:33:01 AM
never had anyone look up my nose before..aparantly i snore quite loud... :) so workout today:
Shoulders are a Triset:

Clean and press 4x10
sde laterals       4x12
bent over laterals 4x12

Incline DB curls  3x8-10
Barbell reverse curls 3x 10+
Dumbbell wrist curls 3x10+

pull over and press 3x10
lying extensions Hammer grip Dumbbells 3x10

only two exercises for Triceps due to shoulder press.

Well they put this camera up there and it goes all the way up.  It's a bit of a weird feeling to have something that far up inside your nose.
Good programme Donny.  I haven't done incline db curls in forever so I will be adding them into my programme next time I train arms. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 04:41:19 AM
Welcome to the mature bunch.  

Thanks, now tell me where I can get some PEDs for my ancient ass.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 04, 2013, 04:46:48 AM
Thanks, not tell me where I can get some PEDs for my ancient ass.
I have no idea.  Maybe you should go and see your doctor and get a script. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 05:11:32 AM
I have no idea.  Maybe you should go and see your doctor and get a script. 

Tell meh where dem dere PEDs are before I get cranky.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 04, 2013, 05:31:30 AM
Ya gotta do the centrum silver, prune juice and ensure combo. available at wongmart.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 05:48:08 AM
Ya gotta do the centrum silver, prune juice and ensure combo. available at wongmart.

How much muscle can I expect to gain my first cycle of this stack?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 04, 2013, 06:14:56 AM
You should be powerful enough to quit having to park in the handicap spots in no time.  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 07:05:24 AM
You should be powerful enough to quit having to park in the handicap spots in no time.  ;D
  ;D nice answer..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 04, 2013, 09:26:35 AM
Clean and press worked well today in my shoulder tri set ..really felt it burn and I think doing inline dumbbell curl worked well because with barbell curls it would have been hard..because the front delts do come into play with bb curls. Good stretch and better isolation with incline db curls
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 04, 2013, 10:35:06 AM
Tell meh where dem dere PEDs are before I get cranky.

By PEDs, do you mean Viagra? I mean, you did say you were 62 years old.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 04, 2013, 04:25:43 PM
You should be powerful enough to quit having to park in the handicap spots in no time.  ;D

Thanks bra.

By PEDs, do you mean Viagra? I mean, you did say you were 62 years old.

Yes, Cialis or Viagra may comprise part of my 'PED package' as a 62 year old man.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 02:29:51 AM
Anyway lets get back on topic.. Today i will do a bit of rope jumping and some Abs.  Maybe i will throw in some burpees in there and star jumps to get me really working. Itīs raining hard again so i think a bike ride is out and running/walking.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 05:45:30 AM
Tell meh where dem dere PEDs are before I get cranky.
You need a muzzle..now zip it. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: syntaxmachine on January 05, 2013, 06:09:11 AM
You need a muzzle..now zip it. 

Sorry, being 62 with rapidly declining test levels and no PEDs has me on edge. Here, let us defuse the tension: come sit on my lap and we'll talk about the first thing that pops up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:15:38 AM
Sorry, being 62 with rapidly declining test levels and no PEDs has me on edge. Here, let us defuse the tension: come sit on my lap and we'll talk about the first thing that pops up.
This is a serious training thread.  If you are not here to discuss and share with us your training and diet, then you will be ignored.  We are too mature for any kind of trolling.   ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:18:21 AM
Sorry, being 62 with rapidly declining test levels and no PEDs has me on edge. Here, let us defuse the tension: come sit on my lap and we'll talk about the first thing that pops up.
you know this was a funny joke when i was a kid in school. If you used it now you really are a clown. Clearly you have nothing constructive to say Son so do us a favour .. go play with the kids on the other threads for this sort of thing.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:20:37 AM
This is a serious training thread.  If you are not here to discuss and share with us your training and diet, then you will be ignored.  We are too mature for any kind of trolling.   ;)

he is not even funny..why is he making a fool of himself?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:22:49 AM
he is not even funny..why is he making a fool of himself?
Have no idea Donny but one thing is for sure..he is not a mature man.  I would guess his age to be around 18 years of age.  Maybe 21 at best. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:26:34 AM
Have no idea Donny but one thing is for sure..he is not a mature man.  I would guess his age to be around 18 years of age.  Maybe 21 at best. 
no not 21.. really a clown. really i heard that joke he made in 1975/76. Embarrassed for the Guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 06:27:32 AM
This is a serious training thread.  If you are not here to discuss and share with us your training and diet, then you will be ignored.  We are too mature for any kind of trolling.   ;)


there's been more off topic discussion in this thread than you want to admit , all down to YOU

don't make rules you can't keep
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:32:41 AM
there's been more off topic discussion in this thread than you want to admit , all down to YOU

don't make rules you can't keep
not really because she spoke about the injury and how it effected her training and motivation. Not the same as coming on here and writing stupid jokes. Itīs a fact of life that injuries can happen and effect training. I think itīs good to learn and find out how others deal with it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 06:35:25 AM
not really because she spoke about the injury and how it effected her training and motivation. Not the same as coming on here and writing stupid jokes. Itīs a fact of life that injuries can happen and effect training. I think itīs good to learn and find out how others deal with it.

elective rhinoplasty is not a training injury Donny it's not an injury at all ::)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:36:49 AM
survived holidays,,,if u saw what i ate few meals u be like 'steve'my real name i can't believe ur eating cookies,lot of pasta due to family'italian'but for most part kept same training days,workouts,calories/meals lol,,i'm boring,,,'donny/booty'what would u guestimate my bf pct by eye ,,,8~10 zone..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:38:54 AM
all i can say is you have good taste in shorts... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:40:09 AM
all i can say is you have good taste in shorts... ;D
there actually sweats lol,,,,,u follow american football?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:42:26 AM
there actually sweats lol,,,,,u follow american football?
no i do not know anything about it. Looks like a hard sport. so what is your BF ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:43:03 AM
not really because she spoke about the injury and how it effected her training and motivation. Not the same as coming on here and writing stupid jokes. Itīs a fact of life that injuries can happen and effect training. I think itīs good to learn and find out how others deal with it.
Yes, my surgery is affecting my training and is something that I have to take into consideration when training.  I wish I had this information prior to my operation, as I would have been more prepared on what to expect.  Unfortunately I have had to learn it all on my own and from my own experience.  For example I found out that the drainage system in the nose doesn't start working until 6 months after surgery which is why I am having a big issue with swelling.  And as I am suffering from swelling at the moment, it is causing ear aches and a terrible pressure on the bridge of my nose.  I recommend for anybody who has this surgery to tape their nose prior to exercise and before bed, as anything which raises the bp will cause you to swell.  It's something I am going to have to train around as I will have it for quite a while.  It is a highly invasive surgery with a long recovery and if the surgeon breaks any bones which in my case he did, then it doubles or triples the time the swelling goes down.  That is what I learned today from my surgeons appointment.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:43:25 AM
elective rhinoplasty is not a training injury Donny it's not an injury at all ::)


well she has good vibe,positive and she's liked here,,so little extra tidbits are good as well,,,and she's trained through it,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:47:18 AM
all i can say is you have good taste in shorts... ;D
They're not boxers?  I thought they looked like underwear.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:47:44 AM
no i do not know anything about it. Looks like a hard sport. so what is your BF ?
never checked i mean you love classic bbing like me ,lean with as much muscle u could build and or frame handle is key like zane our inspiration,,,u have good eye what do u think?for someone who dosen't compete anymore'me'i would say this is pretty much as i want to be at other than a tweaking in the summer..i do zero cardio to achieve this,,all diet and good balanced hard training,,,i do it drug free no less lol,,,i did cycle a bit when i was young...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:49:39 AM
They're not boxers?  I thought they looked like underwear.   ;D
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these are boxers underwear lol,,,turning into mature wardrobe thread,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 06:50:08 AM
never checked i mean you love classic bbing like me ,lean with as much muscle u could build and or frame handle is key like zane our inspiration,,,u have good eye what do u think?for someone who dosen't compete anymore'me'i would say this is pretty much as i want to be at other than a tweaking in the summer..i do zero cardio to achieve this,,all diet and good balanced hard training,,,i do it drug free no less lol,,,i did cycle a bit when i was young...
I would not lose any more weight because you look Healthy...i really am not sure but i would think about 10% ?? no doubt i am wrong ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 06:51:59 AM
They're not boxers?  I thought they looked like underwear.   ;D
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these are boxers underwear lol,,,turning into mature wardrobe thread,,,



Okay I have been corrected.   ;D  I can't tell whats what, lately.   :-[
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 06:55:03 AM
well she has good vibe,positive and she's liked here,,so little extra tidbits are good as well,,,and she's trained through it,,,,

BAH , take a poll
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 06:58:45 AM
I would not lose any more weight because you look Healthy...i really am not sure but i would think about 10% ?? no doubt i am wrong ;D
i agree just enough size /hardness/cuts,,,my legs which unless contest shape never were this lean at this bodyweight 185/190 i needed to be
170ish on stage to have legs like this now,,,i have stated here many times lunges heavy/walking or stairs version really bring in legs,,,and the heavy squats and hi rep leg presses help too,,,i would say closer to 8pct if i would guess but 10 is great ,,i need 'galineko'to assess lol,,,donny
thanx for all the positive posts ...we train for lot of reasons and look wise show our builds to our best ,,little ego and self praise is there too  ;D,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 07:02:43 AM
Is it a goal of yours to compete Njflex?  Masters maybe? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 07:04:23 AM
survived holidays,,,if u saw what i ate few meals u be like 'steve'my real name i can't believe ur eating cookies,lot of pasta due to family'italian'but for most part kept same training days,workouts,calories/meals lol,,i'm boring,,,'donny/booty'what would u guestimate my bf pct by eye ,,,8~10 zone..

you do shrugs ?

curls ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 05, 2013, 07:04:38 AM
Stayed with my exercise all week but a couple of family gatherings crushed the diet, had a giant bacon cheeseburger yesterday that was so good.  :D Just gonna walk today, lift tomorrow and boxing class starts back up Monday night.
 All in all did decent through the holidays, didn`t gain any weight, didn`t lose, and managed to keep my workout schedule.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:10:33 AM
you do shrugs ?

curls ?
need em bigger?just one pose is what it is,,,actually quite strong in both,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 07:13:52 AM
Stayed with my exercise all week but a couple of family gatherings crushed the diet, had a giant bacon cheeseburger yesterday that was so good.  :D Just gonna walk today, lift tomorrow and boxing class starts back up Monday night.
 All in all did decent through the holidays, didn`t gain any weight, didn`t lose, and managed to keep my workout schedule.
your doing great. walking is a great form of exercise. Good enough for Steve reeves, good enough for us !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:14:11 AM
Is it a goal of yours to compete Njflex?  Masters maybe? 
considered it,,,guy who dieted me yrs ago saw me he just did pro master's show nobody famous but good build for 52 ,,he could'nt believe i have maintained build so long ,,never know,,,need to practice posing and diet bit more....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 07:15:39 AM
need em bigger?just one pose is what it is,,,actually quite strong in both,,,

jmo

more development definition would look better on you

like you said it was just one photo
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:24:44 AM
yeah traps could be a bit bigger ,,,bi's have shape ,,,side chest arms decent...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 07:27:59 AM
yeah traps could be a bit bigger ,,,bi's have shape ,,,side chest arms decent...

I concur
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 07:28:37 AM
your doing great. walking is a great form of exercise. Good enough for Steve reeves, good enough for us !
Agreed, if you can stick to your training over christmas and new years holidays then you are doing great.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 07:30:11 AM
considered it,,,guy who dieted me yrs ago saw me he just did pro master's show nobody famous but good build for 52 ,,he could'nt believe i have maintained build so long ,,never know,,,need to practice posing and diet bit more....
I think you should go for it.  Posing...you are already doing and will need more practice but it will come and you already have the discipline when it comes to training and eating a well balanced clean diet. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:32:32 AM
I concur
lulu whether ur guy/girl input is welcome,,,i am not perfect ,,alway's go gym with one motivation to improve,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 05, 2013, 07:45:40 AM
flex you should go for it if its something you want to do, never know how many chances you will get.
 booty I hope you get to feeling better soon.

 Donny, I have found one of the things that help me the most with my mind is walking. Its a form of meditation for me, a nice long quiet walk helps me clear my mind and sharpen my focus.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 07:50:34 AM
flex you should go for it if its something you want to do, never know how many chances you will get.
 booty I hope you get to feeling better soon.

 Donny, I have found one of the things that help me the most with my mind is walking. Its a form of meditation for me, a nice long quiet walk helps me clear my mind and sharpen my focus.
thanxs horspwer,,,words/post noted,,,,never know just need to get into next mindset for 'show'i am there 90pct other 10pct is big factor no turning back i competed 3 times in 90's was in incredible shape all 3,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: lulu on January 05, 2013, 08:21:12 AM
lulu whether ur guy/girl input is welcome,,,i am not perfect ,,alway's go gym with one motivation to improve,,,

improve=key

I was just mentioning what I saw from the photo and meant no insult , traps are part of a protocol to some not everyone , that was my question and forearms are hard to build up 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 08:35:46 AM
improve=key

I was just mentioning what I saw from the photo and meant no insult , traps are part of a protocol to some not everyone , that was my question and forearms are hard to build up 

none taken ,,,i do train all bodyparts hard ,,,i try to train different angles and different rep/weight protocals esp traps some pics they look different fuller,,,calves and forearms i have grown and again depending on pic inner forearms i have grown ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 05, 2013, 09:58:41 AM
massive forearms  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2013, 04:57:49 PM
In my opening post I indicated I was a little over 20:

Upon which you asked for my age, completely unawares. At that point I thought it'd be funny to immediately contradict myself and say I was 62. And it was funny (to me, my sole audience for my attempts at humor).

Goodbye, old persons.

In this post, you seem a little bitter. Sorry if any of us old persons offended you, but you did seem to come on a bit strong, in my opinion. Anyway, maturity is not so much about age as it is about attitude. I've know old persons who were not particularly mature and I know young people who are surprisingly mature acting.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 05:05:53 PM
leg day kiddo's...
hack squat warm up 2 plates per side,then 3,4,5,5.5 sick pump..
extensions 2nd lil different than usual worked up to 250 lbs on stack all sets over 10 reps
walking lunges 50 lb dumbel 12/15 steps per leg up gym floor
finished 3 sets leg presses 5 plates per side then  6 plates per side 2 sets reps 12,12,10

hamstrings
stiff legged deadlift dumbell 60,70,80's reps all over or close to 12
leg curls 10 rep sets x3 155 lb on stack

calves seated calf raise
3 plates 20
3.5 plates 15
4 plates 10
4 plates 10
3 plates 15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 07:34:25 PM
flex you should go for it if its something you want to do, never know how many chances you will get.
 booty I hope you get to feeling better soon.

 Donny, I have found one of the things that help me the most with my mind is walking. Its a form of meditation for me, a nice long quiet walk helps me clear my mind and sharpen my focus.
Thank you, I am feeling better today actually...less swelling and the ear ache has gone as well as the terrible pressure I had on the bridge of my nose. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 08:10:59 PM
 >:(,,,cmon not cool,hope removed,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 08:13:11 PM
>:(,,,cmon not cool,hope removed,,
What do you mean njflex? 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 05, 2013, 08:15:14 PM
What do you mean njflex? 
;),,, :D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
;),,, :D...
I think it went right over my head cause I am not getting the joke. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 05, 2013, 08:21:53 PM
Okay so my plan is to do some form of exercise every single day, whether it is cardio or weights.  I won't exert myself to the point where I swell up and then end up taking 2-3 days off completely.  That just defeats the purpose.  I want to make progress everyday.  I will have to train abs on separate days rather than at the end of other bodyparts, since it appears to be a real issue in off setting terrible swelling and mucus buildup.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 05, 2013, 09:07:21 PM
I tried the do something everyday routine, my body gets irritable with me eventually and stuff starts to go bad. I thought if I just used sheer will power I could overcome, that approach worked for me when I was in my twenties.
 I`m doing 2 days on, one day off, 2 days on 2 days off. Off days are restricted to walking, stretching, bicycle etc. My body needs that time to recover.  Maybe if I had access to some type of PED things would be different.
 Diet is even more important now than it ever used to be.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 05, 2013, 11:49:46 PM
none taken ,,,i do train all bodyparts hard ,,,i try to train different angles and different rep/weight protocals esp traps some pics they look different fuller,,,calves and forearms i have grown and again depending on pic inner forearms i have grown ,,,

Seeing the photos of your forearms has raised my curiosity as to your statute and here is why, my forearms are skinny. They measure something like 12".  I have done every imaginable forearm exercise with not much success. The same is true for my calves, which top out at about 16". My arms are unusually long. I have a 36" sleeve length. Considering that I am 5'11" on tiptoes, this means I am built a little like an ape. Furthermore, my inseam is much shorter at 31", so I am really ape like. Do you have shorter limbs? I have noticed that guys who have a stockier build from a bone structure standpoint often have more developed calves and forearms.

Genetically speaking, I have an ectomorphic body. My parents were both tall and very skinny. Truth be told, this is what got me started bodybuilding. I didn't like being a string bean. The good news is that as a senior citizen, things have balanced out. Between all the years of lifting weights and, yes, using ABS at times I filled out some. However, I still tend to revert to the slim guy I started out being....well maybe not quite as slim as I once was. Hint, I no longer fit into 29" Levi 501's. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 01:02:37 AM
85 mins brisk walk outdoors.  I find I can always walk for longer outdoors than on a treadmill at the gym, which is probably the same for most people.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2013, 01:41:59 AM
85 mins brisk walk outdoors.  I find I can always walk for longer outdoors than on a treadmill, which is probably the same for most people. 

Treadmills are a bore, especially the one at home. At least at the gym you can look around the room and there are other folks walking or running along side you for inspiration. At home the only advantage is that I can run naked on the treadmill if I want....don't think that would go over too well at the gym though.  ;D

You have the advantage of good weather where you are. I would have to bundle up in so many clothes right now to go for a long walk, it wouldn't be that much fun. It is really hard to want to go for a walk when it is pouring rain out. Even the dogs don't seem that interested. When the weather is better, I take the dogs down by the river. The paths at the park to the river are mostly paved. Coming back up the path to the main part of the park really gets my breathing going and heart rate up, since it is a long uphill walk. On the other hand, walking around the neighborhood gives me the choice of going uphill at the beginning of the walk or at the end since I live at the 500 foot elevation marker. The top of the hill is 800 ft. and the bottom is probably around 200 ft. above sea level. So either way there is a good opportunity for a good workout walk.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 01:51:44 AM
yes i agree with the posts here about walking. you can when out walking really have time out to clear your head. Walking really works the glutes very well too. Depends on my motivation and if i have slept well i will break it up too like a sort of interval training..run/walk. I go through periods where i just run but when i do building new muscle is hard. I find walking better if you goal is to build some size. I do also like my rope jumping in between to elevate my heart rate. I always jump rope to warm up when weight training and even between sets! I see njflex you do Dumbbell stiff deads too, i like them more than a bar and leg curls. I normally do my leg curls first then stiff deads..mainly superset.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 03:33:15 AM
I would love a treadmill at home.  I would just watch tv or listen to music.  And before anybody tells me I would never use it, I would.  I stayed with a friend in melbourne years ago and she had a treadmill.  I would get up every morning and walk on it for an hour..I never missed a day and I stayed with her for a month.  So I know I would definitley get good use out of one.  I just get bored walking on a treadmill at the gym. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 04:03:26 AM
I would love One too. I had some years ago an exercise bike . Was a good workout too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 04:07:55 AM
I would love One too. I had some years ago an exercise bike . Was a good workout too.
I can't walk here at night as too dangerous and then there's the heat factor.  If I want to walk in the mornings then it has to be 5am, as by 6.30am the sun is too hot.  Then at night it's around 5.30pm until 7pm, when the sun goes down.  If I had a treadmill I could do it anytime...it would so awesome.  Oh I forgot to mention the rains.  In summer we can get up to 3 months of heavy tropical rains and storms so again you can't walk outside. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 04:09:19 AM
leg day kiddo's...
hack squat warm up 2 plates per side,then 3,4,5,5.5 sick pump..
extensions 2nd lil different than usual worked up to 250 lbs on stack all sets over 10 reps
walking lunges 50 lb dumbel 12/15 steps per leg up gym floor
finished 3 sets leg presses 5 plates per side then  6 plates per side 2 sets reps 12,12,10

hamstrings
stiff legged deadlift dumbell 60,70,80's reps all over or close to 12
leg curls 10 rep sets x3 155 lb on stack

calves seated calf raise
3 plates 20
3.5 plates 15
4 plates 10
4 plates 10
3 plates 15

Very good leg workout.  Love how you call us kiddos. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 06:02:14 AM
njflex do you like seated calf raises better than standing? i have to admit when i do seated with a Barbell i feel it more than standing...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2013, 07:55:32 AM
njflex do you like seated calf raises better than standing? i have to admit when i do seated with a Barbell i feel it more than standing...
both i mix it up 2x per wk lots of sets and reps,,,heavy weight controlled tho ,,i never bounce rep,,,i do leg press extensions too toes to edge sled bottom part and extend knees locked,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 09:33:59 AM
both i mix it up 2x per wk lots of sets and reps,,,heavy weight controlled tho ,,i never bounce rep,,,i do leg press extensions too toes to edge sled bottom part and extend knees locked,,,
yes i like them on the leg press too..work very well. I was just out with a friend walking for 1 hour 10 mins, he normally runs but because of an injury i suggested walking which we do together. I feel hungry now.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2013, 11:11:06 AM
back shot,,,,now from the rear i hold my leaness/weight different ...dry from the front and from the rear my lower back is where i hold water/fat ,i do plenty of hypers,lower back/ham still legged deads,,,genetic trait too short torso i have like dad kinda stocky italian gene,,,i stay lean everywhere else easy but there,,diet a bit harder and water will rectify but i'm happy with overall look right now...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 11:25:11 AM
well looks ok to me. everyone has a problem area but to be honest you have an outsanding overall physique so itīs really minor.have you Bill pearls getting stronger or keys to the universe because there is an exercise i just started doing and it works the lower back/obliques well...bend to opposite feet with Dumbbell
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2013, 11:29:59 AM
well looks ok to me. everyone has a problem area but to be honest you have an outsanding overall physique so itīs really minor.have you Bill pearls getting stronger or keys to the universe because there is an exercise i just started doing and it works the lower back/obliques well...bend to opposite feet with Dumbbell
:),,,ur good guy,,,always up to try new things,,,like i said i'm a very well trained type like lifting ,,,cosmetic asthetic look is a bi product off one of the keys needed with diet,rest ,,,ect...i'm very focused on what i need to do at gym for the time i'm there and days i go,,,have to do alot in 4 days with balancing work,family,life,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 06, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
:),,,ur good guy,,,always up to try new things,,,like i said i'm a very well trained type like lifting ,,,cosmetic asthetic look is a bi product off one of the keys needed with diet,rest ,,,ect...i'm very focused on what i need to do at gym for the time i'm there and days i go,,,have to do alot in 4 days with balancing work,family,life,,,
you are too. you sound like a guy who looks after his family too.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 06, 2013, 11:41:27 AM
you are too. you sound like a guy who looks after his family too.
8)..yeah 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 06, 2013, 12:37:14 PM
I would love a treadmill at home.  I would just watch tv or listen to music.  And before anybody tells me I would never use it, I would.  I stayed with a friend in melbourne years ago and she had a treadmill.  I would get up every morning and walk on it for an hour..I never missed a day and I stayed with her for a month.  So I know I would definitley get good use out of one.  I just get bored walking on a treadmill at the gym.  

Currently, our treadmill out in the garage. It is in a location where it is usable, although our garage isn't exactly well decorated or climate controlled. I should move it back into the house. I had it set up in one of our spare bedrooms on the main floor in hopes that my wife would use it, but she never did. It was also upstairs in the loft area for awhile. I liked having it up there because it is a nice open and bright space. It is a bitch to cart up the stairs though because it is not only heavy, but also awkward. Right now, the treadmill isn't seeing much action.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 06, 2013, 08:20:49 PM
Chest, delts

db incline press x 4 sets
pec flye machine x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2013, 01:47:32 AM
Chest, delts

db incline press x 4 sets
pec flye machine x 4 sets
db shoulder presses x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets
nice Karen today i will hit my chest/back more to follow....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2013, 04:43:47 AM
Today i just did:

jumping rope 10 mins 1 minute with 30 secs rest.
ABS:a  good warm up too
bend to opposite foot (as pic above) with DB 2x20 each side.
leg pull ins on floor 2x 50
Feet against wall crunches 2x 30

Barbell flat bench 4x8-10
flat flyes 3x12
Inclind DB press 4x10 ( i really went slow on the last 2 sets on the negative phase..felt it  ;) )
Incline Flyes 3x 12
1 set max push ups on floor

I just trained chest today and that was enough for me :) Have you noticed i like these smileys!! for cardio tonight at my work there is a martial arts group and i will join in for a bit of cardio. A kick boxing class. The Guy who runs it is a good friend.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 07, 2013, 05:14:48 AM
OFF YESTERDAY TOOK DOWN ALL CHRISTMAS STUFF,LAWN DECORATIONS,TREE OUT THE DOOR,,SWEPT THOUSAND'S OF TREE NEEDLE'S,RECONFIGURED LIVING ROOM BACK TO NORMALCY,,,DRANK SOME CABERNET  ;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 07, 2013, 10:42:45 AM
well tonight was a great workout. Did a bit of sparring too. really got me sweating, have to do it more often.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 07, 2013, 12:40:20 PM
OFF YESTERDAY TOOK DOWN ALL CHRISTMAS STUFF,LAWN DECORATIONS,TREE OUT THE DOOR,,SWEPT THOUSAND'S OF TREE NEEDLE'S,RECONFIGURED LIVING ROOM BACK TO NORMALCY,,,DRANK SOME CABERNET  ;D...

It is always great putting up Christmas decorations and just a nice when you take them down and everything is back to normal. I took ours down on January 1. I still have some exterior decorations in the garage which I need to haul up to the attic. My next project is to organize the garage and the attic. It is hard to fine what you are looking for when things are disorganized.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 07, 2013, 07:52:23 PM
lifted yesterday, bench ,bb rows, curls clean and press, walk 2 miles. today I went to boxing class and the instructor had to go out of town so I wound up in the fitness center instead. 20 minute run on the treadmill, back extension, leg press, deadlifts, 1 arm dumbbell presses and medicine ball sit ups.
 I like using that nice equipment every once and while but what I have here gets the job done.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 07, 2013, 09:25:30 PM
Abdominals. 


Situps x 5 sets, first set 15 reps and rest 10 per set
Reverse crunches x 3 sets, 15 reps per set
Weighted side bends x 3 sets, 15 reps each side (only do these with light db's, 7 kg, 8kg, 9kg)
Crunches x 1 set at 50 reps
weighted crunches x 3 sets, 15 reps per set (started to sneeze on the last set so knew it was time to stop)

I am training abs on their own, since this seems to be causing the most swelling in my nose.  I am also sleeping up on two pillows at night, which is going to take some training on my part to get used to however if it makes me wake up in the mornings with little swelling then it's worth it.  I have slept this way for the past 3 nights and my nose feels and looks great.  I am going for a brisk walk this afternoon once this sun is less intense. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 03:21:43 AM
Funny how things repeat themselves.. i was looking through a muscle mag that my son buys now and again and he asked me about Reg Park as there is an article on the Reg Park old school 5x5 training. I remember as a kid asking my Father nearly the same things except i asked about Steve Reeves. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 04:51:05 AM
so i just worked Back:

chins 4x max
Barbell Rows 4x10
Dumbbell pullovers 3x12 (better than a barbell on my shoulders)
Deadlifts 4x10( plan to work legs on sat so no stiff deads on sat because it would be too much)
shrugs DB 4x12

calf raises standing one leg 4x max with bodyweight.
Cardio i will do at work on a bike, an interval program short...sweet..hard 20 mins  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2013, 05:31:35 AM
smith press
hammer lower press
inc dbell 60.65.75 reps 10/10/8
flyes flat 45/50/55 10/10/8
dips bodyweight 2x 20/15

tris
PUSHDOWNS
CLOSE GRIP SMITH
REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWNS
TRI EXTENSION MACHINE

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 09:42:41 AM
smith press
hammer lower press
inc dbell 60.65.75 reps 10/10/8
flyes flat 45/50/55 10/10/8
dips bodyweight 2x 20/15

tris
PUSHDOWNS
CLOSE GRIP SMITH
REVERSE GRIP PUSHDOWNS
TRI EXTENSION MACHINE

ABS
Donīt know how you manage your tricep training after a good solid chest workout.. I find it tires my Triceps out too much. Reverse grip pushdowns a nice exercise too, got it all covered.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2013, 09:52:54 AM
Donīt know how you manage your tricep training after a good solid chest workout.. I find it tires my Triceps out too much. Reverse grip pushdowns a nice exercise too, got it all covered.. ;D
hear ya,,,i get good workout and great pump,,not going to kidd u its tough but sometimes i'll do superset gian sets on tri's to get them done,,i always had good tri head/shape to them the strenght is there too but i like to pump them...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 10:00:23 AM
I plan to train arms on their own Friday, will do Dips(overlap for my chest too). This week i am going to hit each muscle group on itīs own with a small one like Abs/calfes.

Mon:chest
tues:Back
Wed:shoulders
thurs:off
Fri:Arms (concentrated forearm training too)
Sat:Legs
Sun:Off
Abs and Calfes rotated each day... bit of a change for me doing this split.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2013, 10:07:32 AM
I plan to train arms on their own Friday, will do Dips(overlap for my chest too). This week i am going to hit each muscle group on itīs own with a small one like Abs/calfes.

Mon:chest
tues:Back
Wed:shoulders
thurs:off
Fri:Arms (concentrated forearm training too)
Sat:Legs
Sun:Off
Abs and Calfes rotated each day... bit of a change for me doing this split.
LIKE IT,,,,I CAN ONLY DO 4 DAYS MOST WKS,,,2 KIDS 7/3 GIRLS,,,
MON CHEST,TRI ABS
TUES OFF
WED BACK,BI ABS
THURS DELTS,CALVES,FOREARMS
FRI OFF
SAT LEGS COMPLETE
SUN OFF...
TUES OFF
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 08, 2013, 10:14:29 AM
I have done that split but as i said i found it hard to train my Tris, could do biceps on chest Day and tris on back Day but i like to train arms with shoulders or alone. Wanna blast my puny Forearms.. :D you are lucky you have Mentzer type lower arms.. I am lucky too my sons are big now so no problems there ! 2 Girls ..nice. We wanted a girl too but all boys in my Family ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 08, 2013, 10:18:18 AM
4/5 DAYS IS PLENTY,,,,BUT I LIKE THE 3 ON 1,2 ON 1 U DO BEST,,,,WHAT THROWS IT OFF MY WIFE IS A NURSE DOES OVERNIGHTS 7PM TO 7AM SHIFTS,,,,BUT SHE'LL WORK 3 DAY WK AND THEN 4DAY WK;;$$$ IN NJ IS GOOD FOR NURSES THO ESP NITE/WKEND/HOLIDAY PAY....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 01:20:53 AM
60 mins brisk walking outdoors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 02:03:37 AM
60 mins brisk walking outdoors.
nice Karen and respect that you are still training despite your nose  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 04:10:02 AM
Today was shoulders:

skipping 10 minuten / 1 min and 30 secs rest

Tri set ::

Clean and press( not a full clean.. like a hang clean from waist height and press) 4x10
Side laterals 4x10
Bent over Laterals 4x10

Abs: sit ups on a smaller bench i have and 2 punch combination at Top, my son held the pad ;D 4x20

Thatīs it today and later a walk. Tomorrow is REST Day.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 10:37:56 AM
Tonight was a fast walk and running in between. was raining but not cold and i enjoyed it, lets you know you are alive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 09, 2013, 10:46:56 AM
Tonight was a fast walk and running in between. was raining but not cold and i enjoyed it, lets you know you are alive.

I LOVE WALKING IN A SMALL SNOW STORM WHEN ITS SO QUIET OUTSIDE YOU HEAR THE FLAKES FALL AND HIT THE TREES AND ITS COLD BUT NOT BITTER COLD.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 10:51:11 AM

I LOVE WALKING IN A SMALL SNOW STORM WHEN ITS SO QUIET OUTSIDE YOU HEAR THE FLAKES FALL AND HIT THE TREES AND ITS COLD BUT NOT BITTER COLD.
yes itīs great.. my favourite time of year is Autumn...The air is fresh and leaves everywhere...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 04:22:28 PM
nice Karen and respect that you are still training despite your nose  ;)
Thanks Donny.  I am going to do something everyday and choose exercises that don't cause excessive swelling and train abs on their own, since they do tend to swell up my nose.  It must be the fact that I am laying on my back mostly, like in the sleep positon..which raises the bodys bp.  I guess I have got to start doing hanging knee tucks because that is an upright position.  At worst I am expecting to have this swelling for 6 months and it's the 12 week mark today, so I am half way there. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 04:24:26 PM

I LOVE WALKING IN A SMALL SNOW STORM WHEN ITS SO QUIET OUTSIDE YOU HEAR THE FLAKES FALL AND HIT THE TREES AND ITS COLD BUT NOT BITTER COLD.
Sounds amazing.  Especially since I am covered in sand flie bites from walking outdoors in the tropics here. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 04:26:17 PM
Thanks Donny.  I am going to do something everyday and choose exercises that don't cause excessive swelling and train abs on their own, since they do tend to swell up my nose.  It must be the fact that I am laying on my back mostly, like in the sleep positon..which raises the bodys bp.  I guess I have got to start doing hanging knee tucks because that is an upright position.  At worst I am expecting to have this swelling for 6 months and it's the 12 week mark today, so I am half way there. 
well you are braver than most of us Karen..when i get a sore throat i am touchy lol...respect.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 04:38:18 PM
well you are braver than most of us Karen..when i get a sore throat i am touchy lol...respect.
I had sore throats and infections for 16 months prior to this op, so I will take the swelling for 6 months if it means a lifetime of no more nasty sinus infections.  I never get touchy when I get sick, I just get miserable and withdraw. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 04:45:42 PM
I had sore throats and infections for 16 months prior to this op, so I will take the swelling for 6 months if it means a lifetime of no more nasty sinus infections.  I never get touchy when I get sick, I just get miserable and withdraw. 
we are here for you.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 04:55:02 PM
we are here for you.. ;)
Haha..thanks but I am not sick Donny.  If I get sick you will all know as I will disappear or be extremely quiet for a few days.  I get quiet too, when I have things on my mind or when something is upsetting me. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 04:57:41 PM
Haha..thanks but I am not sick Donny.  If I get sick you will all know as I will disappear or be extremely quiet for a few days.  I get quiet too, when I have things on my mind or when something is upsetting me. 
well most Australians i have met were quite hard people.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 09, 2013, 05:46:04 PM
well most Australians i have met were quite hard people.
I probably come accross as tough on the outside but am soft on the inside, or so I have been told.  Probably the hardest people I have ever known were Russians/Ukranians.  Generation after generation have gone through so many hardships and tough times that the people are so tough and strong/hard. When I was first with my partner, he was so hard that I spent the first few years crying all the time. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 09, 2013, 05:50:04 PM
i would not hurt a fly  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 02:45:24 AM
today is my rest day and tonight i will go for a swim and relax in the whirl pool.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 10, 2013, 02:58:47 AM
I've got to confess that I didn't do any exercise today, even though I said I would do something everyday.  I have a bad blister at the back of my heel and so I bought some new socks which prevent blisters.  And my other excuse is that I wanted to give my body a rest from being a feeding ground for the sandflies.  I will do weights tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 03:07:01 AM
I've got to confess that I didn't do any exercise today, even though I said I would do something everyday.  I have a bad blister at the back of my heel and so I bought some new socks which prevent blisters.  And my other excuse is that I wanted to give my body a rest from being a feeding ground for the sandflies.  I will do weights tomorrow.
well itīs good to rest. I would love to just walk along a nice beach today...take in the sea air.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 10, 2013, 03:14:15 AM
well itīs good to rest. I would love to just walk along a nice beach today...take in the sea air.
That's what I have wanted to do all week, just walk on the beach with my knees up to water in the waves.  I think I will do it tomorrow after I have trained.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 03:19:15 AM
That's what I have wanted to do all week, just walk on the beach with my knees up to water in the waves.  I think I will do it tomorrow after I have trained.
you are so lucky...but i would be scared of the Jelly fish... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 10, 2013, 05:18:36 AM
you are so lucky...but i would be scared of the Jelly fish... ;D
I will be really careful. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 05:36:20 AM
That's what I have wanted to do all week, just walk on the beach with my knees up to water in the waves.  I think I will do it tomorrow after I have trained.
lucky,,,,water on the beach now in jersey frozen to the core,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 07:08:26 AM
lucky,,,,water on the beach now in jersey frozen to the core,,
funny how we have diffrent weather...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 07:45:12 AM
funny how we have diffrent weather...
YEAH BUT MAY/JUNE/JULY/AUG CAN BE SCORCHING AND OCEAN TEMPS BALMY 70/75...NOW THE ISLAND WHICH I HAVE BEEN TO A FEW ARE PARADISE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 07:57:24 AM
I want to live near a beach :) i would walk every morning or evening along the sea front.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 08:44:56 AM
I want to live near a beach :) i would walk every morning or evening along the sea front.
would be nice ,,in u.s place to be if u have $$ san diego in california ,,beach,weather,food,heard awesome.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 08:52:25 AM
would be nice ,,in u.s place to be if u have $$ san diego in california ,,beach,weather,food,heard awesome.
and the girls... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 08:58:56 AM
and the girls... ;D
that's a given,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 09:02:01 AM
that's a given,,,
your a solid guy
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 09:08:20 AM
your a solid guy
8),,,TRY TO ,,JERSEY HAS SOME LOOKERS TOO...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 10, 2013, 09:12:03 AM
8),,,TRY TO ,,JERSEY HAS SOME LOOKERS TOO...
i have to visit the US of A sometime... ;) give your country a bit of Scottish culture...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 09:21:10 AM
i have to visit the US of A sometime... ;) give your country a bit of Scottish culture...
;D...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 10, 2013, 06:30:35 PM
lucky,,,,water on the beach now in jersey frozen to the core,,
The ocean water up here where I live is very warm, like bath water.  It is pure bliss. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 10, 2013, 06:52:40 PM
The ocean water up here where I live is very warm, like bath water.  It is pure bliss. 
nice  booty,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 03:01:29 AM
Today is Arm day and i will do my Supersets and i will throw in these 2 moves. These you never see being used and the barbell Tricep "kickback" is not to be confused with lying tricep "extensions". I will blast my arms today and pay special attention to my grip strength and squeeze the Dumbbell rods and then direct forearm training.( i read that Mentzer once said he developed massive lower arms by just squeezing the bars) :o Anyway enough talk::
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 03:41:25 AM
Nothing from me again today.  It could have been the heat today, but I didn't feel well...was very lighted headed.  It's 50 degrees celicus in some places around here.  Birds are dying from the heatwave and they are telling people to put out bowls of water for them.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 04:56:38 AM
Nothing from me again today.  It could have been the heat today, but I didn't feel well...was very lighted headed.  It's 50 degrees celicus in some places around here.  Birds are dying from the heatwave and they are telling people to put out bowls of water for them.   
really...i would put water out..but i like animals.. well my arms are pumped like balloons... ;D donīt think i could write a letter now !!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 05:03:58 AM
really...i would put water out..but i like animals.. well my arms are pumped like balloons... ;D donīt think i could write a letter now !!
A pump that good is great Donny....good to hear it.   :)  I always have water outside at the back door for my cats and possumns and refill it several times per day. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 05:48:35 AM
A pump that good is great Donny....good to hear it.   :)  I always have water outside at the back door for my cats and possumns and refill it several times per day. 
only thing about where you live that i do not like is all the snakes and spiders...put your shoes on and there is a big black spider in there  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 05:53:01 AM
only thing about where you live that i do not like is all the snakes and spiders...put your shoes on and there is a big black spider in there  :o
I've got my shoes in containers designed for shoes...nothing can get in there, no dust and no bugs/spiders. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 06:05:34 AM
I've got my shoes in containers designed for shoes...nothing can get in there, no dust and no bugs/spiders. 
just make sure there are no spiders in your panty drawer.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 06:12:03 AM
just make sure there are no spiders in your panty drawer.... ;D
I did find a spider in one of my other drawers the other day.   :o   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 06:13:49 AM
I did find a spider in one of my other drawers the other day.   :o   
so is there a chance that you could be in bed sleeping and you get bitten ? serous question...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 06:21:30 AM
so is there a chance that you could be in bed sleeping and you get bitten ? serous question...
Well possibly, although I clean my home every week of spider webbs.  And I have a few geckos around which eat bugs and spiders, although I have much fewer geckos lately since one of my kittens is a real hunter and keeps killing them.  I had a spider once in my bedroom and it was the size of a humans head.  I was on my computer ready to go to bed and turn it off when I looked up and saw this massive spider on the wall in front of me.  My heart started pounding and as I moved to the door, it's eyes followed me.  I got a shoe and hit it and it chased me around the room and I screamed so loud that I am sure I woke up half the neighbours.  I did kill it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 11, 2013, 08:44:17 AM
WOW SPIDERS,,,,ON TO LIGHTHEARTED SUBJECT DELT DAY

SMITH FRONT PRESS
SIDE LATERALS
REAR DELT WITH CABLE BENT OVER
CABLE LATERAL NO HANDLE JUST CABLE AND SLIGHT BENT AT ELBOW PULL TO A BIT OVER SHOULDER LEVEL ANOTHER SIDE DELT PUMPER,,
SHOULDER PRESS DB X2 TO FINISH

SHRUGS FRONT SMITH X3
DB SHRUG X2 AT SIDES AND THEN SLIGHT POSITION TO REAR AND THEN REAR DELT AND TRAPS FLEXED AND PULLED UP,, 85 X12,95X12

SMALL BODYPARTS TOO

FOREARMS
ROPE WEIGHT ROLLUPS OLD SCHOOL X3
REVERSE WRIST CURL CABLE X3

CALVES
STANDING CALF RAISE 200LB ON STACK DONE AS TOES AND FOOT IN X 8,FOOT REG FLAT POSITION X8,TOE IN X8 24 REPS SETS DONE 4X
SICK PUMP,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 11, 2013, 09:43:48 AM
WOW SPIDERS,,,,ON TO LIGHTHEARTED SUBJECT DELT DAY

SMITH FRONT PRESS
SIDE LATERALS
REAR DELT WITH CABLE BENT OVER
CABLE LATERAL NO HANDLE JUST CABLE AND SLIGHT BENT AT ELBOW PULL TO A BIT OVER SHOULDER LEVEL ANOTHER SIDE DELT PUMPER,,
SHOULDER PRESS DB X2 TO FINISH

SHRUGS FRONT SMITH X3
DB SHRUG X2 AT SIDES AND THEN SLIGHT POSITION TO REAR AND THEN REAR DELT AND TRAPS FLEXED AND PULLED UP,, 85 X12,95X12

SMALL BODYPARTS TOO

FOREARMS
ROPE WEIGHT ROLLUPS OLD SCHOOL X3
REVERSE WRIST CURL CABLE X3

CALVES
STANDING CALF RAISE 200LB ON STACK DONE AS TOES AND FOOT IN X 8,FOOT REG FLAT POSITION X8,TOE IN X8 24 REPS SETS DONE 4X
SICK PUMP,,,
nice workout...i was just out running and it snowed a bit...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 11, 2013, 07:55:25 PM
Not letting the heatwave or spiders stop me from training today.   :P  I will just drink more water and keep my blood sugar levels from dropping.  It might have been a bit of the case yesterday since i was dizzy but heat didn't help also and it did make me a bit lazy.  I think it was still 40 degrees celicus at 2am when I got up for a drink of water. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 11, 2013, 10:25:19 PM
Not letting the heatwave or spiders stop me from training today.   :P  I will just drink more water and keep my blood sugar levels from dropping.  It might have been a bit of the case yesterday since i was dizzy but heat didn't help also and it did make me a bit lazy.  I think it was still 40 degrees celicus at 2am when I got up for a drink of water. 

Do you not have air conditioning?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 12, 2013, 12:50:01 AM
Do you not have air conditioning?
Yes but I am only using it in the bedrooms because electricity has gone up 18 % since last year.  I am walking outdoors and getting to and from places and so I can't avoid the heat.  I don't think it's healthy either to constantly be in air con. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2013, 02:09:16 AM
Yes but I am only using it in the bedrooms because electricity has gone up 18 % since last year.  I am walking outdoors and getting to and from places and so I can't avoid the heat.  I don't think it's healthy either to constantly be in air con. 

Here tonight the temperature is 1.6 celcius or 29 degrees farenheit. I am not running the air-conditioning, just the heat. Fortunately our place is fairly well insulated. I actually have not heard the furnace come on in the last hour. Our electric bill runs around $100 a month year around. The furnace is gas so that bill climbs a lot in the winter.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 02:11:29 AM
Yes but I am only using it in the bedrooms because electricity has gone up 18 % since last year.  I am walking outdoors and getting to and from places and so I can't avoid the heat.  I don't think it's healthy either to constantly be in air con. 
I think it will dry your skin too..or it does to me because i remember working all day in a gym with it and in summer it was on full blast..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 12, 2013, 02:23:50 AM
I think it will dry your skin too..or it does to me because i remember working all day in a gym with it and in summer it was on full blast..
Yes it's dehyrdating for the skin.  I always have to use a really good moisturizer at night when sleeping in air con.  Really air con is not healthy but in this extreme heat it's either that or keep waking up from sweating at the back of my neck/hair. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 12, 2013, 02:35:28 AM
Here tonight the temperature is 1.6 celcius or 29 degrees farenheit. I am not running the air-conditioning, just the heat. Fortunately our place is fairly well insulated. I actually have not heard the furnace come on in the last hour. Our electric bill runs around $100 a month year around. The furnace is gas so that bill climbs a lot in the winter.
That's a really cosy temp to sleep to at night.  I have insulation too however Australia pays the most for electricity in the world even though we sell coal to other countries.  My electricity bill last year during summer was $75 per week, I am not kidding.  That was mostly for air con since I never used any hot water in showers because the cold water is very warm when it comes from the tap.  I only used hot water for dishes.  It's ridiculous what aussies pay for electricity.  I never remember it being this expensive but the government especially the greens want electricity so that its not affordable and that has basically what has happened.  Alot of aussies don't even use heating during winter for this reason because they can't afford it.  We are using less electricity than previous years. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 05:37:10 AM
so Today i will do some Leg training::

 warm up jumping rope 10 mins.
 Abs.. incline sit ups 3x20
 hanging knee raises 3x20

 Squats 4x 10-15
 leg extensions 4x10-15
 DB lunges 4x10-15
 leg curls    4x10-15
 standing one leg calf raise DB 5x 15,12,10,10,8 (adding weight each set)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 12, 2013, 05:53:57 AM
so Today i will do some Leg training::

 warm up jumping rope 10 mins.
 Abs.. incline sit ups 3x20
 hanging knee raises 3x20

 Squats 4x 10-15
 leg extensions 4x10-15
 DB lunges 4x10-15
 leg curls    4x10-15
 standing one leg calf raise DB 5x 15,12,10,10,8 (adding weight each set)
Are you going to train abs after legs Donny?  I just would never do my abs first as I wouldn't want to tire then before squats.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 07:04:37 AM
Are you going to train abs after legs Donny?  I just would never do my abs first as I wouldn't want to tire then before squats.
karen my workout went totally diffrent. No i like to warm up with abs it warms my abs and lower back, i know what your thinking it will tire my "core" but i am OK. so it went like this today::
 Abs and skipping as my original plan...

leg extension3x15 Superset with
squats 3x12

Leg curls 3x15 SUPERSET with
DB stiff deads 3x15 ( i know i was not going to do them but my head said DO THEM!!)
Calf raises as Original plan.

when i did the pre-exhaust superset with squats i squated down with a flat bench under my ass for safety as i really went for it. I am lying now on my couch like an old man,,, ;D Now with pre-exhaust some say you will reach cardio failure before muscle failure but as i do lots of cardio i can cope.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 07:35:46 AM
A good read about pre-exhaust wrote by Alan who i believe writes here too on getbig. A couple of exercises i do not like in the article, bench press to neck and sissy squats but a very good read...
http://www.palmieribodybuilding.com/PreExhaust.pdf
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 12, 2013, 07:40:54 AM
work started with a vengeance on tuesday. 10 to 12 hr days carrying boxes, moving steel, moving equipment, cleaning the shop etc. No time or energy to do anything more, going to relax today, lift and go walking tomorrow. hopefully do some boxing stuff monday since it will be mostly meetings all day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 07:51:19 AM
work started with a vengeance on tuesday. 10 to 12 hr days carrying boxes, moving steel, moving equipment, cleaning the shop etc. No time or energy to do anything more, going to relax today, lift and go walking tomorrow. hopefully do some boxing stuff monday since it will be mostly meetings all day.
yes sometimes you have to rest till you feel you have the energy otherwise you just go through the motions...i have worked in Manuel jobs i know what you mean.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 12, 2013, 07:53:07 AM
karen my workout went totally diffrent. No i like to warm up with abs it warms my abs and lower back, i know what your thinking it will tire my "core" but i am OK. so it went like this today::
 Abs and skipping as my original plan...

leg extension3x15 Superset with
squats 3x12

Leg curls 3x15 SUPERSET with
DB stiff deads 3x15 ( i know i was not going to do them but my head said DO THEM!!)
Calf raises as Original plan.

when i did the pre-exhaust superset with squats i squated down with a flat bench under my ass for safety as i really went for it. I am lying now on my couch like an old man,,, ;D Now with pre-exhaust some say you will reach cardio failure before muscle failure but as i do lots of cardio i can cope.
NICE,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 12, 2013, 07:56:38 AM
i really felt my quads work.. 9/10 reps my quads were burning. a simple workout i did at home but it got me working. No walking or running iīm gonna rest now and get some food down my neck... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 12, 2013, 01:29:54 PM
Yes it's dehyrdating for the skin.  I always have to use a really good moisturizer at night when sleeping in air con.  Really air con is not healthy but in this extreme heat it's either that or keep waking up from sweating at the back of my neck/hair. 

Living in Oregon, we only get a few days of uncomfortably hot weather a year. It seems unnecessary to have air conditioning here. We have a ceiling fan in the loft. The furnace fan can also be used without heat to circulate the air in the house when it is hot. Supposedly, the older one gets the more susceptible to temperature extremes they are. Being one who is older, I have yet to have a problem with the few days in late summer that the inside of our home gets up to 75 or 80 degrees farenheit.

Having said the above, most houses in my area do have air-conditioning. I know people that start running it when the temperature gets up to around 80 degrees outside. This seems ridiculous. In the winter, they turn the thermostat up to 75 to get warm and in the summer they turn it down to 65 to cool off. To me they are simply spoiled energy hogs. Some friends of mine argue over the thermostat, he's always too cold and she's always too hot....wouldn't want to pay their energy bills. My cousin who lives in Main never turns her heat on above 50 degrees farenheit. We don't visit her in the winter. My son did and he said he nearly froze. I guess it is to each his own.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 13, 2013, 03:10:18 AM
Just 60 mins of brisk walking outdoors today. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 13, 2013, 03:14:25 AM
karen my workout went totally diffrent. No i like to warm up with abs it warms my abs and lower back, i know what your thinking it will tire my "core" but i am OK. so it went like this today::
 Abs and skipping as my original plan...

leg extension3x15 Superset with
squats 3x12

Leg curls 3x15 SUPERSET with
DB stiff deads 3x15 ( i know i was not going to do them but my head said DO THEM!!)
Calf raises as Original plan.

when i did the pre-exhaust superset with squats i squated down with a flat bench under my ass for safety as i really went for it. I am lying now on my couch like an old man,,, ;D Now with pre-exhaust some say you will reach cardio failure before muscle failure but as i do lots of cardio i can cope.
If it works for you then by all means do it Donny.  I was just wondering that's all.  I guess it was old school to train abs first and then train other bodyparts, but in recent years that has all changed and they recommend to train abs of a workout.  I sometimes squat down onto a bench and really focus on squeezing my glutes.  I will keep legs together for this, as opposed to having a wider stance.  I like to vary it for squats.  Another one I love is sumo squats.  It is so awesome for hitting the inner thighs, glutes, quads and hams. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 03:34:20 AM
If it works for you then by all means do it Donny.  I was just wondering that's all.  I guess it was old school to train abs first and then train other bodyparts, but in recent years that has all changed and they recommend to train abs of a workout.  I sometimes squat down onto a bench and really focus on squeezing my glutes.  I will keep legs together for this, as opposed to having a wider stance.  I like to vary it for squats.  Another one I love is sumo squats.  It is so awesome for hitting the inner thighs, glutes, quads and hams. 
yeah i as i wrote on another thread i use staggered sets too for abs and calfes..i got the idea for training abs first from Bill Pearl when i tel with him some years ago...I just had the seat end of the bench behind me and just touched it lightly i did not straddle the bench..was for for safety as i have no power rack. I could not squat as low as normal but today i feel it..some snow today but i will go for a walk/run later..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 03:47:11 AM
Just 60 mins of brisk walking outdoors today. 
i am thinking of getting a weight vest...the weight is better distributed than a ruck sack
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 13, 2013, 03:51:10 AM
i am thinking of getting a weight vest...the weight is better distributed than a ruck sack
Shit I couldn't stand a weight vest.  It's bad enough having to drag my own body around without any additional weight.   ;D  I will get back to weights tomorrow.  I spent the day getting jerked around waiting for the store where I got my iphone from, to replace my charger since it was faulty and stopped charging last night.  Then I didn't feel like training later in the evening as I drink too much water and then am up all night peeing. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 07:43:19 AM
Shit I couldn't stand a weight vest.  It's bad enough having to drag my own body around without any additional weight.   ;D  I will get back to weights tomorrow.  I spent the day getting jerked around waiting for the store where I got my iphone from, to replace my charger since it was faulty and stopped charging last night.  Then I didn't feel like training later in the evening as I drink too much water and then am up all night peeing. 
I just like the pain... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 12:09:50 PM
tonight i went for a nice easy run..was quite fresh outside.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 13, 2013, 12:20:01 PM
wound up doing my boxing workout yesterday afternoon, walked this AM and just finished lifting. Bench, bb rows, ez bar curls, hammer curls, deep knee bends, and some flys.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 13, 2013, 12:52:50 PM
legs...
leg press 3 plates per side warmupx12,,,4 for 12,,,,5 x12...6 x10,,7 x9..8 x6...
leg extensions x3 sets 12 got up to 265 stack is 305,,
hack squat 4 plates per side x2 10 reps,,then set with 5 plates for 8 dead...
walking lunges 50 lb dbells walk up gym floor 12 steps per leg x2

hams seated leg curls x3
lying leg curls x3

calf press on leg press x4 3 plates per side,3.5,then 2 sets 4 plates all over 10 to 15 rep sets...

very big pump,fatigued and still pump/sore hrs later,,, ;D,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 13, 2013, 01:11:34 PM
I walked down to the curb today to pick up the Sunday paper from the paper box. It is 30 degrees farenheit outside; very crisp and nice with the sun shinning. Whenever the sun shines in Oregon, we are happy regardless of how cold it is out.

I am reading all of your posts about your various exercise routines. If I don't hit the gym next week, one of you needs to come to Oregon and slap me upside my head. Each week, I say this is the week I start back working out and then something gets in the way of this happening. I know it is just a matter of prioritizing things better, but I am having a hell of a time doing that lately. Other than a few business calls, a breakfast meeting and lunch with a friend, I don't believe there is anything on my calendar next week. NO EXCUSES!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 13, 2013, 08:09:26 PM
legs...
leg press 3 plates per side warmupx12,,,4 for 12,,,,5 x12...6 x10,,7 x9..8 x6...
leg extensions x3 sets 12 got up to 265 stack is 305,,
hack squat 4 plates per side x2 10 reps,,then set with 5 plates for 8 dead...
walking lunges 50 lb dbells walk up gym floor 12 steps per leg x2

hams seated leg curls x3
lying leg curls x3

calf press on leg press x4 3 plates per side,3.5,then 2 sets 4 plates all over 10 to 15 rep sets...

very big pump,fatigued and still pump/sore hrs later,,, ;D,,,
no wonder you were still pumped after a hardcore workout like that ..makes mine look tame...LOL
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 13, 2013, 08:13:35 PM
I just wish I was anywhere else except in this horrible harsh hot and scorching country.  Yeah I am having one of those negative feel sorry for myself days.  I am over this heat...I am over my clothes sticking to me and constantly sweating.  I am over my aching and overly sensitve nipples and I am over not sleeping until 3am at nights because I cannot get used to sleeping up on pillows.  I am over my dark circles under my eyes...I never had them before surgery.  And I feel like miss piggy.  I am supose to like how I look after I get my nose done and straightened but today I just prefer how I looked before...swollen free and no circles under my eyes.  Hopefully I feel better after I train today.  >:(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 01:12:57 AM
Change of plan, was supose to do legs but instead trained bis and tris.  I just wanted a quick workout and I didn't feel like doing any big muscle groups.  I noticed my arms were stronger and I am back to the weights I was doing before I developed the asthma from the upper sinus blockage and from the time off I had after the op.  So that was a good feeling...to be back where I once was in regards to strength.  It didn't take me that long to focus from the neck down and I forgot that I was tired and over the whole swelling thing.

Incline db curls x 5 sets
barbell straight bar curls x 4 sets
tricep pressdowns V bar x 5 sets
rope pressdowns x 4 sets

Finished off with 60 mins brisk walking outdoors. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 04:26:22 AM
Change of plan, was supose to do legs but instead trained bis and tris.  I just wanted a quick workout and I didn't feel like doing any big muscle groups.  I noticed my arms were stronger and I am back to the weights I was doing before I developed the asthma from the upper sinus blockage and from the time off I had after the op.  So that was a good feeling...to be back where I once was in regards to strength.  It didn't take me that long to focus from the neck down and I forgot that I was tired and over the whole swelling thing.

Incline db curls x 5 sets
barbell straight bar curls x 4 sets
tricep pressdowns V bar x 5 sets
rope pressdowns x 4 sets

Finished off with 60 mins brisk walking outdoors. 
sometimes you got to go by how you feel and adapt your training..i do this too. Well today i am going for a Dumbbell only chest workout but i will do straight sets::

Flat Dumbbell bench press 4x8-10
Flat flyes 4x12
Incline Dumbbell press Hammer grip 4x8-10
Incline Flyes 4x12
push ups to failure 1-2 sets if i have the strength.

V-raise sit ups 2 sets to failure.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 04:29:07 AM
wound up doing my boxing workout yesterday afternoon, walked this AM and just finished lifting. Bench, bb rows, ez bar curls, hammer curls, deep knee bends, and some flys.
got all the main muscles covered right there...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 04:33:43 AM
sometimes you got to go by how you feel and adapt your training..i do this too. Well today i am going for a Dumbbell only chest workout but i will do straight sets::

Flat Dumbbell bench press 4x8-10
Flat flyes 4x12
Incline Dumbbell press Hammer grip 4x8-10
Incline Flyes 4x12
push ups to failure 1-2 sets if i have the strength.

V-raise sit ups 2 sets to failure.

I prefer dumbells over barbells in most cases.  Yes sometimes its good to adapt to how you are feeling in regards to training and other times you have to push yourself to do something you don't really feel like doing.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 05:44:51 AM
really killed me doing 4 sets for all exercises...you do not realize how much impact the stabilizing muscles have... these two ab exercises i did old but hammer my abs from top to bottom  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 05:52:11 AM
really killed me doing 4 sets for all exercises...you do not realize how much impact the stabilizing muscles have... these two ab exercises i did old but hammer my abs from top to bottom  ;D

These V situps are great..how many did you do Donny?  I haven't done them for ages.  When this nose is not swelling, I will start doing them again.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 05:55:48 AM
well i did 30 reps on the first exercise for 3 sets and then on the twisting i donīt know i just went to failure for two sets. one rep is left and right.. i just worked till failure. I lost count ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 06:01:06 AM
did these in the Army a lot but i like this book still some good stuff in there::
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 06:29:58 AM
If you want a brillant book Donny, then I suggest this one.  Had it for years and it's one of my favs.  If you love anatomy and want to see it in use when executing exercises then this is the book to get. 

http://books.google.com.au/books?id=GgLGWbv763EC&source=gbs_similarbooks
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 06:38:16 AM
yes....got it ....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 06:40:34 AM
yes....got it ....
Ah ha Awesome.   ;D 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 06:44:24 AM
A good book for German speakers, wrote by 2 sport doctors.. used this when i did my Trainer licence..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2013, 02:22:51 PM
These V situps are great..how many did you do Donny?  I haven't done them for ages.  When this nose is not swelling, I will start doing them again.

I thought you might be interested in these doctor's opinions regarding nasal swelling following rhinoplasty:

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Swelling after Rhinoplasty: Gradual Improvement

The amount of swelling and how long it persists after rhinoplasty depends on several factors such as the surgeon's technique, open versus closed approach, whether the nasal bones were broken, and the number of prior nasal surgeries.

Patients in whom open rhinoplasty techniques were used, cases in which the nasal bones were broken, and a history of one or more previous nasal surgeries often will have more prolonged swelling.

During the first week, most patients will have moderate swelling . Usually, by the end of the second week, much of the bruising and swelling have subsided to the point that it is not obvious to the casual observer that the patient has had surgery.

However, the nose will look swollen or puffy to the patient for 3 to 4 months. It usually takes a full year for the residual swelling to resolve and the final result be apparent.

C. Spencer Cochran, MD

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Swelling 3 weeks after Rhinoplasty is normal

Rhinoplasty swelling occurs both on the outside and inside of the nose. Patients are generally "restaurant ready" and socially acceptable within 2 weeks following surgery. Most swelling after rhinoplasty resolves within a month. The final 20% of swelling takes a much longer time to resolve, up to a year after surgery. Fortunately, this final swelling is usually only evident to the surgeon and patient.

Rhinoplasty swelling varies greatly and is largely based on the areas of the nose treated, surgical approach to the nose (open or closed/endonasal), skin thickness, postoperative care, and your healing ability. The more extensive the surgery, the more you will swell and the longer the swelling will last. The tip of the nose holds onto swelling longer than the other parts of the nose. Open rhinoplasty, where there is an external incision at the base of the nose, swells more and longer than closed/endonasal rhinoplasty. Patients with thicker skin will have more swelling.

Keeping your head elevated, maintaining the nasal splint/cast, ice, arnica montana, and following your plastic surgeon's guideline will help reduce rhinoplasty swelling. Persistant swelling may also be reduced by steroid treatment into the nose. Don't hesitate to speak to your plastic surgeon about any swelling.

Houtan Chaboki, MD

I don't recall how long it has been since your surgery, but if it has been several weeks and the worst of the swelling has not subsided, I would be concerned. I remember that you recently saw your surgeon and he said everything was as expected. However, if the the worst of the swelling has not subsided pretty soon, you might want to have a second opinion regarding this. You sure don't want to end up looking like Michael Jackson with the tip of your nose falling off.

I had rhinoplasty when I was in my late twenties. The main reason was to repair a deviated septum. Unlike you, no bones were broken and the doctor worked from within the nostrils, so he didn't need to cut the base of the nose (closed proceedure). I guess I was lucky because aside from the first couple of weeks, I didn't have much swelling at all.

My daughter had rhinoplasty twice. In addition to having a deviated septum, she had a small bump on the bridge of her nose reduced, which was too bad because her nose was attractive and more distinctive prior to the surgery, in my opinion. The second surgery was to fix some flaw she felt she had from the previous surgery that none of the rest of us could see. Anyway, she didn't have noticeable swelling after several weeks and she said all the swelling was gone in six months.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 14, 2013, 06:07:21 PM
My back workout today is:

sternum chins 3x max
barbell rows 4x10
Dumbbell pullovers 3x15
DB shrugs 3x 12+
one legged db standing calf raises 3x15-20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 06:37:25 PM
I thought you might be interested in these doctor's opinions regarding nasal swelling following rhinoplasty:
 
C. Spencer Cochran, MD
 
Houtan Chaboki, MD

I don't recall how long it has been since your surgery, but if it has been several weeks and the worst of the swelling has not subsided, I would be concerned. I remember that you recently saw your surgeon and he said everything was as expected. However, if the the worst of the swelling has not subsided pretty soon, you might want to have a second opinion regarding this. You sure don't want to end up looking like Michael Jackson with the tip of your nose falling off.

I had rhinoplasty when I was in my late twenties. The main reason was to repair a deviated septum. Unlike you, no bones were broken and the doctor worked from within the nostrils, so he didn't need to cut the base of the nose (closed proceedure). I guess I was lucky because aside from the first couple of weeks, I didn't have much swelling at all.

My daughter had rhinoplasty twice. In addition to having a deviated septum, she had a small bump on the bridge of her nose reduced, which was too bad because her nose was attractive and more distinctive prior to the surgery, in my opinion. The second surgery was to fix some flaw she felt she had from the previous surgery that none of the rest of us could see. Anyway, she didn't have noticeable swelling after several weeks and she said all the swelling was gone in six months.

I've done quite a bit of googling and have been told to stop by the surgeon.  It just makes things go over and over in your mind and doesn't help.  My nose ears throat specialist is a visiting surgeon meaning that he doesn't live in my town.  We don't have any nose ears throat specialists here....they are all visiting ones so too difficult to get a second opinion.  Plus I already saw his partner a couple of weeks ago and he said that what I am experiencing is very normal.  It takes 8 weeks for all swelling to go down if the patient just gets cleaned out..meaning no bones are broken.  If a bone is broken which in my case it was to straighten my nose then you double or triple the time, so that takes it to 6 months.  It's been 12 weeks since my surgery so I am at the half way point.  Anything which overheats the body or raises the bp will make the nose swell.  I am living in an extremely hot climate...it was close to 50 degrees celicus the other day in some parts of Mackay so you can imagine this kind of heat all the time.  Plus I am exercising which again heats the body and I am already hot all the time.  If I didn't work out I can imagine I would feel alot more comfortable and would have way less swelling.  I know this because a couple of times I didn't exercise for 2-3 days and my nose felt and looked great and I had very little discomfort.  Then I train again and bam the swelling comes up.  I have got a low steriod ampule pulmicort to put into my air flow solution when I clean out my nose and this is to help bring down the swelling. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 14, 2013, 07:59:04 PM
I've done quite a bit of googling and have been told to stop by the surgeon.  It just makes things go over and over in your mind and doesn't help.  My nose ears throat specialist is a visiting surgeon meaning that he doesn't live in my town.  We don't have any nose ears throat specialists here....they are all visiting ones so too difficult to get a second opinion.  Plus I already saw his partner a couple of weeks ago and he said that what I am experiencing is very normal.  It takes 8 weeks for all swelling to go down if the patient just gets cleaned out..meaning no bones are broken.  If a bone is broken which in my case it was to straighten my nose then you double or triple the time, so that takes it to 6 months.  It's been 12 weeks since my surgery so I am at the half way point.  Anything which overheats the body or raises the bp will make the nose swell.  I am living in an extremely hot climate...it was close to 50 degrees celicus the other day in some parts of Mackay so you can imagine this kind of heat all the time.  Plus I am exercising which again heats the body and I am already hot all the time.  If I didn't work out I can imagine I would feel alot more comfortable and would have way less swelling.  I know this because a couple of times I didn't exercise for 2-3 days and my nose felt and looked great and I had very little discomfort.  Then I train again and bam the swelling comes up.  I have got a low steriod ampule pulmicort to put into my air flow solution when I clean out my nose and this is to help bring down the swelling. 

Surely, you are fine. Like you suggest, the combination of air temperature and you working out is probably exasperating the situation with your nose swelling. It probably isn't the best idea to focus on it anymore than you already are. Worry never fixed anything. Age probably plays some role in the healing process too. As I mentioned, I was only 29 when I had rhinoplasty. My daughter was 34 if I remember correctly. Every person heals differently. I tend to be a fast healer.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 14, 2013, 10:25:12 PM
I think as we get older Prime, that we heal at a slower rate.  But in this case I think that it's perfectly normal what I am experiencing.  Anyway I just got back from gym and I had a good train.  I did legs and I found that I am stronger like I was stronger yesterday in my arms.  I feel good.


Barbell back squats x 4 sets 
SLD's x 4 sets
thigh extensions x 4 sets

Just waiting for the sun to get a bit lower in the sky and I will be going for another brisk walk....60 mins outdoors. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 03:21:08 AM
yes...we are slowly aging but i will continue to press and pull that old rusty iron bar till i die...itīs my destiny to one Day train with steve reeves and reg park in the Big Gym in the sky...Today i added barbell shrugs behind my back. i feel great, tonight i will go swimming and use the whirl pool to massage my muscles. A great way to finish a very productive Day ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 03:27:45 AM
yes...we are slowly aging but i will continue to press and pull that old rusty iron bar till i die...itīs my destiny to one Day train with steve reeves and reg park in the Big Gym in the sky...Today i added barbell shrugs behind my back. i feel great, tonight i will go swimming and use the whirl pool to massage my muscles. A great way to finish a very productive Day ;)
We get older everyday and there's nothing we can do to stop it, however I believe that resistance weight training does keep the hormones functioning at a healthier level than if we did nothing and that in itself is the fountain of youth.  Really anything that keeps you moving is anti aging. 
That whirlpool sounds good.  I sometimes sit in the massage chair at the gym after I train and that feels good.  Sometimes the massage gets a bit rough too and that hurts. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 04:29:25 AM
We get older everyday and there's nothing we can do to stop it, however I believe that resistance weight training does keep the hormones functioning at a healthier level than if we did nothing and that in itself is the fountain of youth.  Really anything that keeps you moving is anti aging. 
That whirlpool sounds good.  I sometimes sit in the massage chair at the gym after I train and that feels good.  Sometimes the massage gets a bit rough too and that hurts. 
i agree.. have you looked at the typical long distance runner?? weight training does help in anti-ageing...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 04:37:44 AM
i agree.. have you looked at the typical long distance runner?? weight training does help in anti-ageing...
I haven't paid too much attention except to the fact that they are in good shape and with firm skin and a good healthy colour. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 04:39:31 AM
I haven't paid too much attention except to the fact that they are in good shape and with firm skin and a good healthy colour. 
well do not worry because you have a very pretty face and nice skin... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 04:41:46 AM
well do not worry because you have a very pretty face and nice skin... ;)
Thank you Donny.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 15, 2013, 04:48:30 AM
well do not worry because you have a very pretty face and nice skin... ;)
DOWN UNDER HAS IT REWARDS,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 04:52:58 AM
DOWN UNDER HAS IT REWARDS,,,,
Today I was thinking to myself as the sun beat down on my skin and intensity of it hurt my skin...this country should have just kept the aborigines only and kept the white people out of it.  It's not made for white people...the heat, the sun.  
That was my grumpy mood leaving the gym, as I had to walk out into the hot sun and then get in the car and have the sun beating down on me.  I don't know guys, but have you ever had eyes sweat???  
The best thing about Australia is the beaches, the ocean and the beauty.  But it's a harsh country!  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 04:54:42 AM
Today I was thinking to myself as the sun beat down on my skin and intensity of it hurt my skin...this country should have just kept the aborigines only and kept the white people out of it.  It's not made for white people...the heat, the sun. 
That was my grumpy just leaving the gym mood, as I had to walk out into the hot sun and then get in the car and have the sun beating down on me.  I don't know guys, but have you ever had eyes sweat??? 
The best thing about Australia is the beaches, the ocean and the beauty.  But it's a harsh country! 
i would not last 2 mins in the heat... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 04:57:01 AM
i would not last 2 mins in the heat... :)

You would if bobbed up and down in the ocean.  But you would want to get out and as the sun starts to go down, it's when the sharks come out to feed.  So you would have to get out.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 05:04:22 AM
You would if bobbed up and down in the ocean.  But you wouldn't want to get out and as the sun starts to go down, it's when the sharks come out to feed.  So you would have to get out.   ;D
respect...crazy ... i mean where you live and in some parts of the US itīs really dangerous but intresting how people have learned to live in Harmony with nature with itīs nice and hard side...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 05:11:30 AM
respect...crazy ... i mean where you live and in some parts of the US itīs really dangerous but intresting how people have learned to live in Harmony with nature with itīs nice and hard side...
It's just accepted here.  You get used to living amongst some of the most dangerous creatures in the world.  It becomes the norm and you don't know anything else.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 05:39:31 AM
It's just accepted here.  You get used to living amongst some of the most dangerous creatures in the world.  It becomes the norm and you don't know anything else.
well you know in Scotland we have a very dangerous creature called the "Haggis".. very nasty... :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 05:43:39 AM
well you know in Scotland we have a very dangerous creature called the "Haggis".. very nasty... :D
Omg that's that disgusting looking sausage isn't it?  I think it's some horrible part of an animal.   :-X
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 06:24:57 AM
Omg that's that disgusting looking sausage isn't it?  I think it's some horrible part of an animal.   :-X
it tastes not bad.. have not eaten it in years... :'(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 06:58:49 AM
it tastes not bad.. have not eaten it in years... :'(
I wouldn't eat it for all the tea in china.  I don't eat any red meats and things like that make me feel sick in my stomach just thinking about it. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 07:03:37 AM
I wouldn't eat it for all the tea in china.  I don't eat any red meats and things like that make me feel sick in my stomach just thinking about it. 
i like meat but i think i could do without it. my father was a Butcher and as a kid i went Saturday mornings with him and helped clean up. I could not slaughter animals and from what my father told me in the old days it was brutal. maybe this is why i like animals today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 15, 2013, 07:10:16 AM
i like meat but i think i could do without it. my father was a Butcher and as a kid i went Saturday mornings with him and helped clean up. I could not slaughter animals and from what my father told me in the old days it was brutal. maybe this is why i like animals today.
I have always thought to myself that I would never have a relationship with a butcher.  I just find it cruel and barbaric to slaughter animals and the smell of the blood on a persons hands would turn me off.  It turns me off even thinking about it. 
My father used to hunt deer when I was little and I think this is what turned me off eating red meat.  I would see him bring home the dead deer and just all the cleaning up of the dead animal etc..blood.  I went pure vegetarian when I was a child, even refused to eat chicken.  The only thing I would eat was fish/oysters/scallops etc.  I started eating chicken when I was older but to be honest I could give it up no worries. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 15, 2013, 07:56:39 AM
still love haggis...just got to catch one... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 15, 2013, 10:44:17 AM
If I had to kill what I ate, I would starve. I lived on a farm when I was a kid. My cousin butchered a young steer. I ate the meat, but I hadn't watch him butcher it. When I was older, my parents had a small "gentlemen's farm" where they raised two pigs among other animals. The neighbors complained about the pigs because they were loud and, well, because they were pigs. Anyway, they had them butchered. I actually help the fellow butchering them. What I remember most was that they "jumped" out of the wheelbarrow after they'd be shot and were supposedly dead. They were dead, it was just their muscles twitching. I don't remember eating the meat. I probably blocked it out. I eat meat today. I just don't think about where it came from.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 15, 2013, 11:38:23 AM
chest workout
fdb press 60x12,75x10,80x10,85x7
smith inc x3
inc flye 45,50,55 12/10/8
dips x2 15 reps per set
flat smith x3 finish 8/8/15 pump set

tris
pushdowns x3 stack machine 130x15,140x12,150 x9
seat tri dip x3
lying tri extension 30lb dbells x3 12 reps
cable kick back x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2013, 04:57:37 AM
so today i will train shoulders....

Abs double crunches and flutter kicks( leg raises with an alternative motion)

TRISET:
standing barbell press 4x10
side laterals 4x10
bent over laterals 4x10
I will finish off with alternate Dumbbell press as i feel i can hold my arms further back and hit my delts more centrally.. safer than behind the neck press.3x10
I will go to the local school tonight and do some sprints.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 16, 2013, 05:43:34 AM
What's a double crunch Donny?  Maybe we call it something different here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2013, 07:07:51 AM
doing a reverse crunch(rolling the knees to the rib cage) and a crunch(rolling the rib cage to the pelvis)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 16, 2013, 02:51:00 PM
caught some kind of cough/cold, been feeling down the last few days. forcing myself to go to the gym after work tomorrow, got to do something, tired of feeling like dogcrap.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 16, 2013, 03:07:32 PM
caught some kind of cough/cold, been feeling down the last few days. forcing myself to go to the gym after work tomorrow, got to do something, tired of feeling like dogcrap.
take a lighter workout.. donīt be tough on yourself. better still mellow out at home,eat well and come back refreshed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 16, 2013, 07:31:45 PM
back tonite'
chins x3 12/12/12
tbar row machine x3 2.5 plates 12,3plates x10,4 plates x6
wide bar low rows x3
hammer reverse pulldowns x3 2 plates per side x10,2 plates and ten x2 8-10 reps
single arm cable row did them like pulling lawn mower chord old style mower lol x3

weighted hypers x3 12 rep sets

bi's
cable curls with small straight bar x4 15/12/10/10
bi cep db curl 35,40,45 10/10/8
seated concentration curls dbell elbow on inside leg 30,35,40 ,,10/10/8 with cheat,,,

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2013, 03:23:23 AM
back tonite'
chins x3 12/12/12
tbar row machine x3 2.5 plates 12,3plates x10,4 plates x6
wide bar low rows x3
hammer reverse pulldowns x3 2 plates per side x10,2 plates and ten x2 8-10 reps
single arm cable row did them like pulling lawn mower chord old style mower lol x3

weighted hypers x3 12 rep sets

bi's
cable curls with small straight bar x4 15/12/10/10
bi cep db curl 35,40,45 10/10/8
seated concentration curls dbell elbow on inside leg 30,35,40 ,,10/10/8 with cheat,,,

abs
no training for me today...hypers i have not done in a long time. do you find them better for your back?(i think you said one time that you had an injury)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 17, 2013, 03:30:40 AM
caught some kind of cough/cold, been feeling down the last few days. forcing myself to go to the gym after work tomorrow, got to do something, tired of feeling like dogcrap.

There's that flu going around.  I hope you feel better soon, so maybe take a couple of days to rest up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2013, 04:00:32 AM
There's that flu going around.  I hope you feel better soon, so maybe take a couple of days to rest up.
there was a bad flu here too...lucky i never caught it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 17, 2013, 04:01:31 AM
there was a bad flu here too...lucky i never caught it.
It's predicted to hit Australia. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 17, 2013, 04:09:07 AM
It's predicted to hit Australia. 
hope you donīt get it Karen because of your nose...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 17, 2013, 04:15:22 AM
hope you donīt get it Karen because of your nose...
Well I think I already got it last time it was here because I hardly ever get sick and I remember getting this flu that I couldn't shake.  And I had a lot of mucus in my nose and it was going down the back of my throat and I lost my voice completely for two weeks.  Anyway after being sick for a month and having no voice for two weeks i went to the doctor and he said lets get you sorted.  And I went on course after course of antibiotic and that was for sinus infections which I just couldn't get rid of.  So I believe that it was that flu which got me into the situation with the nose/sinus blockage.  Because I have always had this nose and never had any issue with sinus etc until I got that flu.  I would already have immunity to it since I got it last time and I clean my nose out daily with the air flow bottle so I would never get a build up ever again.  I am not worried Donny.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 04:26:31 AM
so time to have fun itīs Arm Day.
Jumping rope as always to warm up and i will do Abs:

Bend to opposite foot Dbsī2x20( warms my lower back up for sit ups)
lying leg pull-ins (knee ins ) 3x30+
Incline bench sit ups 3x20+  I will SUPERSET them both after the knee ins my Abs really work harder on the Incline bench sit ups and i use a small motion just going back far enough to keep tension on the Abs.
Note: i almost never use weight on Abs.

SUPERSETS:
Barbell close grip bench press 2x6-8  with
Barbell curls   2x6-8

seated Db curls 2x6-8   with
incline french press(ez bar) 2x8-10

Barbell concentration curls 2x10-12 (not an ex for heavy weight)
lying 4x4x4 DB curls 2x12 (also an ex where i have to concentrate and correct form is important)

forearms:
preacher reverse curls ez bar 2x15 SUPERSET
barbell wrist curls forearms on knees  2x15 ( OPENING THE FINGERS ;))
 I will finish off with pinch grips with a smooth plate.




Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 04:41:29 AM
This is knee ins then sit ups on my smaller bench...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2013, 05:43:47 AM
cool donny,,,,

delts
shoulder db press
side laterals
rear delt lying on slight incline face down on bench
cable upright row i used handles instead of bar
cable side lateral no handle just cable hook attached came from across body and elbow up angled down on top of movement hits side delt different a tad lol,,,,
total 15 sets

traps smith shrug front and rear 3 front 2 rear..reps and squeeze 12 reps each set

calves standing calf raise

donny favorite forearms took advice from the wrist curl thread the rope curl did overhand grip then lower then flipped to underhand grip
great pump on inner forearms sick vascularity.then i did cable behind back lower to fingertips then flex at top wrist curls
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 05:55:53 AM
I will over the weekend make a rope device... ;) I keep saying it. i dropped the volume because i am now training 5 days a week and really going for Quality reps and feeling it. on the 4x4x4 curls..i was nearly screaming.. ;D i really did the reps conttrolled.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 18, 2013, 05:58:08 AM
Good workouts guys.  I will train tomorrow and get mine up. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2013, 06:18:25 AM
I will over the weekend make a rope device... ;) I keep saying it. i dropped the volume because i am now training 5 days a week and really going for Quality reps and feeling it. on the 4x4x4 curls..i was nearly screaming.. ;D i really did the reps conttrolled.
ITS AWESOME PUMP ,,,I LOVE THE OLD SCHOOL PICS WITH 25 LB PLATE ,,,10 AND A 5 I'M HURTING,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 06:30:30 AM
ITS AWESOME PUMP ,,,I LOVE THE OLD SCHOOL PICS WITH 25 LB PLATE ,,,10 AND A 5 I'M HURTING,,,
yes...you know i find the cable side lateral you do very intresting.. yes i can picture that... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 18, 2013, 06:52:07 AM
yes...you know i find the cable side lateral you do very intresting.. yes i can picture that... ;)
CAN BE DONE WITH DUMBELL TO HOLD IT TO SIDE OR PELVIC AREA INSTEAD HAVING DUMBELL GO UP KNUCKLES UP ITS DUMBELL TOP FINISHES FACING UP KNUCKLE FACES FOWARD.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 18, 2013, 09:41:31 AM
was just out running ...my ears are freezing..i was wearing a hat too
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 18, 2013, 09:15:04 PM
Trained abs.  Not really enjoying training abs, probably due to the fact that I feel as though I can't go all out for fear of "the nose".  But I have decided that anything is better than nothing and the past couple of days my nose has felt and looked pretty good and I feel as though the swelling is somewhat lessening and I can see light at the end of the tunnel.

Situps x 5 sets 15 reps per set
Reverse crunches x 3 sets (didn't do many as felt alot of pressure in nose)
Crunches x 5 sets 30 reps per set
Weighted crunches x 3 sets 10 reps only, ears started popping so stopped
Weighted side bends x 3 sets 10 reps each side with light weight (10kg)


I am going to post a pic up.  This shows where I am at, currently.  My goal is to reduce bodyfat and bring up the width of my shoulders, back and I want leaner harder arms.  Since I began training again after this surgery I gained 2.2 kg which I believe to be is muscle that I had lost when I wasn't training consistantly due to my sinus blockage etc.  It's just muscle memory.  I know it's not fat as I have been eating pretty clean and doing cardio and I just know my body...that it has gone to my back mostly, possibly other bodyparts as well but I can mostly see it in my back.  I am not pumped or posing in pic, it's just a standing pic.  I will take a progress pic again in a few weeks time.  This will motivate me to achieve my goals since I have to beat this pic now..haha 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 19, 2013, 12:01:26 AM
You are a nice looking woman booty, I was expecting to see your face all bruised to hell with a couple of bandages on your nose,  :D

 I like those weighted sit ups, I`m good for 10 x 3 and then everything gets blurry.

 If I can get the mrs to take a pic of me in a good light I will post one as well, I could use the motivation. Work has been rough and we probably have 2 more weeks like that before it settles back down to a normal schedule. I have been getting plenty of exercise just not the kind I want.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 19, 2013, 01:30:26 AM
You are a nice looking woman booty, I was expecting to see your face all bruised to hell with a couple of bandages on your nose,  :D

 I like those weighted sit ups, I`m good for 10 x 3 and then everything gets blurry.

 If I can get the mrs to take a pic of me in a good light I will post one as well, I could use the motivation. Work has been rough and we probably have 2 more weeks like that before it settles back down to a normal schedule. I have been getting plenty of exercise just not the kind I want.
Thank you hrspwr1.  I was lucky I didn't get much bruising...just a little under my eyes and that went away at 2 weeks post op.  I haven't been taping my nose when I train for the past week and that's how I know I am getting better because I have less swelling and some feeling coming back to the end of my nose...the knob bit.  Surgeon told me it would take a full year to get all feeling back in it.  I am getting some feeling back now so it's a good sign.   :)
My ab training sucks at the moment and the only thing I enjoyed today was the situps.  I feel as though I need to train harder in that department but am hesitant to do so as fear of getting all swollen.  I want to keep training at the pace that I am as I feel as though I am making progress. 
Yes get your mrs to take a pic and post it, as it will motivate you to train and work harder towards your goals.  It's like you have something to compare to and want to improve on it or rather have to. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 19, 2013, 06:01:09 AM
Today is leg Day...iīm a bit tired and did not sleep well but i will do 3 sets of each ex....
Warn up jumping rope and Abs:
crunches and V-sit ups twisting

Pre-exhaust supersets

leg extension 3x15
Squats          3x10-15

leg curl          3x15
stiff Deads(DB)3x15

seated calf raises 3x15-20
standing(Db)       3x15-20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2013, 09:24:53 AM
look good booty ,,figure is nice,,your goal is set so i'm sure your results will show ,,,did u have deviated septum or combo for cosmetic purpose i'm vain too so its cool if its cosmetic mostly...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 19, 2013, 09:35:29 AM
wk goes by quick last sun legs tough its sat so less than wk ago legs again ,,,

quads
squat 135 x15,225 x12,315 x10,365 x10,405 x9,,,
leg press 5 plates x12,6 plates x12,7 plates x 10 gassed,,,
lunges a bit different old school of rack step back then 1 leg foward back then other leg sets 12 steps 135,185 lbs,,,
extensions 235 x15,245 x12,250 x11

heaviest sets squat and leg press slight knee wraps and belt for squat,,,,

hams stiff legged deadlift usually do leg curl only sdl's today
135 x12.185 x10,230 x1o,230 x10

calfs seated calf raise 4 sets 20/12/12/12/  3 plates then 3 sets 3 plates and 25....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 19, 2013, 03:36:33 PM
look good booty ,,figure is nice,,your goal is set so i'm sure your results will show ,,,did u have deviated septum or combo for cosmetic purpose i'm vain too so its cool if its cosmetic mostly...
Thank you njflex.  I am very focused on my goals and I enjoy the discipline and routine that bodybuilding/sculpturing brings me.  I know what I need to do and I will do it.  This is the worst out of shape that I have been in years due to the fact that I couldn't be consistant with my training last year due to sinus infections.  I don't know if I had a deviated septum...I never had an issue with my nose, how it looked.  When I told a friend recently about my nose op his reply was "I never noticed anything with your nose".  He said he never had an issue with my nose.  It was an ex who said this btw.  The bridge of my nose went off to the side slightly at the end towards the knob and this meant that it was cutting off airflow and when I got sick mucus wasn't able to drain properly.  So when I saw the surgeon he told me he could clean out my nose but it was possible that it could return and I would get a sinus blockage in the future. So I decided to get the septum straightened perfectly to allow the best flow of air etc as I believe in prevention and what I went through for 16 months I never want to go through again.  So I though to myself if I was going to go under for an operation I might as well do it all at once..make sure this never happens again. 
I would have no problem admitting if I had it done for vanity reasons as I don't see anything wrong with it, if it makes a person really happy but I had it done for medical reasons.  I don't think my nose looks that different, it's still the same size..the knob is the same the only difference is I have a nicer profile and thats about it.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 19, 2013, 09:40:21 PM
Back.


One arm db rowes x 6 sets
seated cable rowes x 4 sets
lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
back extensions x 3 sets


90 mins brisk walking outdoors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Roger Bacon on January 19, 2013, 10:42:02 PM
Trained abs.  Not really enjoying training abs, probably due to the fact that I feel as though I can't go all out for fear of "the nose".  But I have decided that anything is better than nothing and the past couple of days my nose has felt and looked pretty good and I feel as though the swelling is somewhat lessening and I can see light at the end of the tunnel.

Situps x 5 sets 15 reps per set
Reverse crunches x 3 sets (didn't do many as felt alot of pressure in nose)
Crunches x 5 sets 30 reps per set
Weighted crunches x 3 sets 10 reps only, ears started popping so stopped
Weighted side bends x 3 sets 10 reps each side with light weight (10kg)


I am going to post a pic up.  This shows where I am at, currently.  My goal is to reduce bodyfat and bring up the width of my shoulders, back and I want leaner harder arms.  Since I began training again after this surgery I gained 2.2 kg which I believe to be is muscle that I had lost when I wasn't training consistantly due to my sinus blockage etc.  It's just muscle memory.  I know it's not fat as I have been eating pretty clean and doing cardio and I just know my body...that it has gone to my back mostly, possibly other bodyparts as well but I can mostly see it in my back.  I am not pumped or posing in pic, it's just a standing pic.  I will take a progress pic again in a few weeks time.  This will motivate me to achieve my goals since I have to beat this pic now..haha 

camel toe  :P  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2013, 03:00:29 AM
Back.


One arm db rowes x 6 sets
seated cable rowes x 4 sets
lat pulldowns to the front x 4 sets
back extensions x 3 sets


90 mins brisk walking outdoors.
90 mins is great... bet you felt tired but refreshed after that.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 03:38:04 AM
90 mins is great... bet you felt tired but refreshed after that.
The only thing I felt was relief to get out of the heat.  I am a bit naughty in the fact that I come in from the heat and into my air conditioned bedroom.   :P  That's like pure heaven.  But actually I wasn't as tired, I felt fitter today.  Had a great back workout too earlier and got a good pump.  I feel like it's just on and upwards from here.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2013, 03:59:25 AM
The only thing I felt was relief to get out of the heat.  I am a bit naughty in the fact that I come in from the heat and into my air conditioned bedroom.   :P  That's like pure heaven.  But actually I wasn't as tired, I felt fitter today.  Had a great back workout too earlier and got a good pump.  I feel like it's just on and upwards from here.
YEAH...think positive ;D I will go for a run tonight.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2013, 07:50:22 AM
went back to the booty pic,,curvy and don't know age but very nice,,,she trains ,,,booty do use trainer or train alone and own program.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 20, 2013, 09:52:01 AM
that was a cold 40 min run tonight.. running up hill against an icy wind... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 04:09:15 PM
went back to the booty pic,,curvy and don't know age but very nice,,,she trains ,,,booty do use trainer or train alone and own program.
Thank you njflex and I am 43 years of age.  Definitely belong in the over 40 group...hence the mature thread.   ;D  I don't use a trainer and I train alone as I have had training partners over the years but I prefer to train alone and just grab a spotter when I need one.  I do my own programme and to be honest It would probably benefit me for someone else to give me a progamme as I need help in bringing up my arms. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 04:13:15 PM
that was a cold 40 min run tonight.. running up hill against an icy wind... ;D
Oh god, sounds like heaven running up against an icy wind.   ;D  When I walk it's like  I am in one of those butterfly enclosures at the zoo..that's the temp I am in. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 20, 2013, 06:51:59 PM
couple new pics of legs i always post my leg workouts and hit all angles and train them hard and heavy .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 20, 2013, 09:40:30 PM
you look strong flex. I had the mrs take some pics of me today and I look like shit, working on it. Ran 2 miles as fast as I could this AM then lift - bench 3x10 light sets, 3x5 heavy, bb rows 3x8, clean and press 3x7, ez curl 3x10, hammer curl 3x10, then did 30 minutes on the heavy bag waited 3 hours and another 20 minutes on the heavy bag. This was the first day this week I didn`t feel like crap and wanted to get a good workout or two in before work cranks back up tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 09:45:14 PM
hit all angles and train them hard and heavy .
And it shows!  Really good legs there njflex.  Your quads, hams and calves are all in proportion and you have some good thickness to them. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 09:47:26 PM
you look strong flex. I had the mrs take some pics of me today and I look like shit, working on it. Ran 2 miles as fast as I could this AM then lift - bench 3x10 light sets, 3x5 heavy, bb rows 3x8, clean and press 3x7, ez curl 3x10, hammer curl 3x10, then did 30 minutes on the heavy bag waited 3 hours and another 20 minutes on the heavy bag. This was the first day this week I didn`t feel like crap and wanted to get a good workout or two in before work cranks back up tomorrow.
Don't worry about it, at least you have something to look back on to compare to as you make progress.  Good work out and it would be hard going at the bag for 30 mins and then another 20 mins...great cardio.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 20, 2013, 09:49:33 PM
Chest, delts.

Incline db presses x 5 sets
flye machine x 4 sets
seated db shoulder presses x 4 sets
seated lateral raises x 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 21, 2013, 03:44:12 AM
And it shows!  Really good legs there njflex.  Your quads, hams and calves are all in proportion and you have some good thickness to them. 
i agree he has a really  dense physique.. quality muscle and no blubber.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 21, 2013, 04:05:07 AM
you look strong flex. I had the mrs take some pics of me today and I look like shit, working on it. Ran 2 miles as fast as I could this AM then lift - bench 3x10 light sets, 3x5 heavy, bb rows 3x8, clean and press 3x7, ez curl 3x10, hammer curl 3x10, then did 30 minutes on the heavy bag waited 3 hours and another 20 minutes on the heavy bag. This was the first day this week I didn`t feel like crap and wanted to get a good workout or two in before work cranks back up tomorrow.
stick with it..i went through a bad illness too in my life and you will make it. great support here. Today is chest day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2013, 05:29:11 AM
I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED THIS THREAD I READ IT EVERYDAY AND TRY TO ADD SOMETHING,,ME AND DONNY GO BACK AND FORTH ON OTHER THREADS AS WELL,HE'S COOL PEOPLE,,I LIKE BOOTY HERE TOO SHE IS BETTER HERE THAN OTHER BOARD PARTS WHERE THE WOLVES ARE OUT,BUT SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF 'HERSELF'NO DOUBT.....OTHER THAN BACK MY LEGS WHEN I TRAIN THEM PEOPLE SHAKE THERE HEADS WHEN I SQUAT OR VOLUME AND PYRAMIDING WEIGHT EACH SET WITH NO FATIGUE.ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER HERE ON MY OTHER PIC THREAD REFERS TO ME AS'HORSE LEGS'LOL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 21, 2013, 07:27:21 AM
I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED THIS THREAD I READ IT EVERYDAY AND TRY TO ADD SOMETHING,,ME AND DONNY GO BACK AND FORTH ON OTHER THREADS AS WELL,HE'S COOL PEOPLE,,I LIKE BOOTY HERE TOO SHE IS BETTER HERE THAN OTHER BOARD PARTS WHERE THE WOLVES ARE OUT,BUT SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF 'HERSELF'NO DOUBT.....OTHER THAN BACK MY LEGS WHEN I TRAIN THEM PEOPLE SHAKE THERE HEADS WHEN I SQUAT OR VOLUME AND PYRAMIDING WEIGHT EACH SET WITH NO FATIGUE.ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER HERE ON MY OTHER PIC THREAD REFERS TO ME AS'HORSE LEGS'LOL...
Thanks man... ;D  yes there are some great people on here and i like my daily dose of getbig. Wife has my car so i have to go now on my moutain bike and itīs snowed fairly deep again...oh well suppose iīll get a good workout. so i did chest today::

Flat Barbell press 4x8
Flat flyes 3x12
Incline Dumbbell press 4x10
Incline flyes 3x12
Max push ups 2x sets to failure

Abs: hanging knee raise 3x 25
       Incline sit ups 3x 20 (small movement to hit the sweet spot)

so my Friends this is Donald(Duck) signing out till later.... :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2013, 07:50:17 AM
Thanks man... ;D  yes there are some great people on here and i like my daily dose of getbig. Wife has my car so i have to go now on my moutain bike and itīs snowed fairly deep again...oh well suppose iīll get a good workout. so i did chest today::

Flat Barbell press 4x8
Flat flyes 3x12
Incline Dumbbell press 4x10
Incline flyes 3x12
Max push ups 2x sets to failure

Abs: hanging knee raise 3x 25
       Incline sit ups 3x 20 (small movement to hit the sweet spot)

so my Friends this is Donald(Duck) signing out till later.... :-*
NICE,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2013, 09:16:11 AM
THANKS FOR ALL THE POSITIVE COMMENTS ,, I LIKE THIS THREAD AND IT'S JUST NOT COMING HERE FISHING FOR COMPLIMENTS,IT'S MORE THAN THAT. IT'S HERE TO SHOW THAT OVER 40 REALLY IS THE NEW 30 ,OVER 50 IS THE NEW 40..ECT..TRAINING IS STILL DEPENDING ON YOUR MAKEUP JUST AS INTENSE,FUN,DIETING ,KEEPING ONESELF AS CLOSE TO BEST OR EVEN FOR SOME SURPASSING THERE BEST.SO FAR DONNY HAS KEPT IT GOING,BOOTY,PRIME,HORSEPOWER1,MYSELF HAVE ADDED OUR CLOSE TO DAILY REGIMINE TO DISCUSS,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 21, 2013, 10:26:09 AM
yes everyone makes it great..the Mature thread is also tranquility...peace and respect for everyone !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 21, 2013, 03:19:51 PM
I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED THIS THREAD I READ IT EVERYDAY AND TRY TO ADD SOMETHING,,ME AND DONNY GO BACK AND FORTH ON OTHER THREADS AS WELL,HE'S COOL PEOPLE,,I LIKE BOOTY HERE TOO SHE IS BETTER HERE THAN OTHER BOARD PARTS WHERE THE WOLVES ARE OUT,BUT SHE CAN TAKE CARE OF 'HERSELF'NO DOUBT.....OTHER THAN BACK MY LEGS WHEN I TRAIN THEM PEOPLE SHAKE THERE HEADS WHEN I SQUAT OR VOLUME AND PYRAMIDING WEIGHT EACH SET WITH NO FATIGUE.ANOTHER BOARD MEMBER HERE ON MY OTHER PIC THREAD REFERS TO ME AS'HORSE LEGS'LOL...
I really enjoy this thread too and I always check it every single day.  It's my fav thread on getbig because here we can all chill, discuss our training and sometimes follow with some banter.  We are all here to motivate each other and help one another.  It's a tight good little group.  Sending love to you guys from the ocean.   ;D  Thank you for making it a great thread. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 21, 2013, 07:28:24 PM
chest
fdb press 60 x12,70x12,80x10 85x8,65x10
smith inc x3 and last set drop with slow down full squeeze to top.
hammer low mid press 2 sets 2 plates and 25 x10,3rd set same weight drop to 2 plates and go single arm 6 reps per arm..
cable crossovers
dips x2

tris
pushdowns 15,12,10,10
rope overhead extensions x3
reverse grip pusdown x3
dip machine 2 x12...

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 21, 2013, 07:57:05 PM
I've got to train bis and tris today and I am bored thinking about it.  I need to mix it up as it feels as though I do the same thing all the time when it comes to arms.  I will go to gym soon and then post up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 21, 2013, 08:39:37 PM
Thanks man... ;D  yes there are some great people on here and i like my daily dose of getbig. Wife has my car so i have to go now on my moutain bike and itīs snowed fairly deep again...oh well suppose iīll get a good workout. so i did chest today::

Flat Barbell press 4x8
Flat flyes 3x12
Incline Dumbbell press 4x10
Incline flyes 3x12
Max push ups 2x sets to failure

Abs: hanging knee raise 3x 25
       Incline sit ups 3x 20 (small movement to hit the sweet spot)

so my Friends this is Donald(Duck) signing out till later.... :-*

On one hand, it is a bummer only having one car, but on the other hand, you had to pedal you mountain bike through the snow. How does that work anyway?

Here it is Monday, the first workout day of the week and I had to attend a board meeting (I'm the chair, so I can hardly get out of it). Anyway the meeting lasted longer than usual. By the time I got back to West Linn, it was nearly dinner time. Once I have dinner, I'm done. My best time to work out is around 2:00 p.m. I am not a morning person at all, so mornings are out. When I worked, my shift ended at 2:30 p.m. I could be at the gym before 3:00 p.m. and home before 5:00 p.m. I need to work this system into my current schedule.

My wife fixed deep fried chicken with tater tots and peas for dinner. I know fried food isn't on most fitness buff's diets, but she got the fat hot enough that nothing was the least bit oily. Anyway, being fit is my thing and not so much hers.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 21, 2013, 08:51:22 PM
I've got to train bis and tris today and I am bored thinking about it.  I need to mix it up as it feels as though I do the same thing all the time when it comes to arms.  I will go to gym soon and then post up.

Do some opposing super sets, 21's or drop sets then get the fuck outtathere!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 21, 2013, 09:47:32 PM
Do some opposing super sets, 21's or drop sets then get the fuck outtathere!
I wish I had seen this before I went to gym Alex.  Anyway good advice, I will use it next time.  So I didn't do much volumn today as it felt as though I was going through the motions...wasn't really into it.  I tried to do a standing over head tricep extension but it hurt my elbows and they started clicking so I stopped it after 8 reps. 

tris, bis


Tricep pressdowns V bar x 5 sets
db standing over head tricep extensions x 1 set
rope pressdowns x 3 sets
Ezy bar curls x 3 sets
straight bar curls x 3 sets
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 02:10:33 AM
Do some opposing super sets, 21's or drop sets then get the fuck outtathere!
YES !!!  SUPERSET feel the pain.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 02:17:14 AM
On one hand, it is a bummer only having one car, but on the other hand, you had to pedal you mountain bike through the snow. How does that work anyway?

Here it is Monday, the first workout day of the week and I had to attend a board meeting (I'm the chair, so I can hardly get out of it). Anyway the meeting lasted longer than usual. By the time I got back to West Linn, it was nearly dinner time. Once I have dinner, I'm done. My best time to work out is around 2:00 p.m. I am not a morning person at all, so mornings are out. When I worked, my shift ended at 2:30 p.m. I could be at the gym before 3:00 p.m. and home before 5:00 p.m. I need to work this system into my current schedule.

My wife fixed deep fried chicken with tater tots and peas for dinner. I know fried food isn't on most fitness buff's diets, but she got the fat hot enough that nothing was the least bit oily. Anyway, being fit is my thing and not so much hers.
well the Germans being efficient people have great cycle paths and clear them fast. The snow was deep but not so deep you could not cycle but it was much harder. I just had to watch the down hill cycling as it was a bit tricky. Prime you sound like you have a great wife who looks after you.. ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 22, 2013, 04:30:25 AM
well the Germans being efficient people have great cycle paths and clear them fast. The snow was deep but not so deep you could not cycle but it was much harder. I just had to watch the down hill cycling as it was a bit tricky. Prime you sound like you have a great wife who looks after you.. ;)

The paths and roads are perfectly clean.  I always love seeing these pics Donny.  I dream about being in the snow.   ;D
x 2 in regards to Primes wife taking good care of him, although he still needs to step into the gym as he has been planning to do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:02:53 AM
yes where i live itīs a dreamy little town...lots of old buildings...

Today was Back:
skipping to warm up:

Parallel grip chin ups 3x max
Barbell Rows 3x 10 Overhand Grip
Barbell Rows  3x10  Underhand grip
Barbell Deadlifts 3x10
Dumbbell shrugs 3x12

Standing calf raises holding 2 Dumbbells 4x 20 .. had to use straps my lower arms were burning.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:05:14 AM
trying to type and phone at the same time...lol
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Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:50:42 AM
another one for karen....
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Post by: AVBG on January 22, 2013, 04:40:45 PM
yes where i live itīs a dreamy little town...lots of old buildings...

Today was Back:
skipping to warm up:

Parallel grip chin ups 3x max
Barbell Rows 3x 10 Overhand Grip
Barbell Rows  3x10  Underhand grip
Barbell Deadlifts 3x10
Dumbbell shrugs 3x12

Standing calf raises holding 2 Dumbbells 4x 20 .. had to use straps my lower arms were burning.



Good workout Donny
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Post by: booty on January 22, 2013, 04:59:04 PM
another one for karen....

Very pretty.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:18:02 PM
Good workout Donny
Thank you very much  ;D
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Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:20:24 PM
Very pretty.   :)
i will make more pics Karen  ;) when i run tonight.
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Post by: AVBG on January 22, 2013, 05:23:34 PM
Thank you very much  ;D

Lol.. I don't get the use of the smiley as I wasn't being sarcastic?

 Your workout was solid, good choice of exercises and good amount of volume/rep range.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:27:43 PM
no .. i always use the smile thing. I liked your comments
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 22, 2013, 05:29:17 PM
Lol.. I don't get the use of the smiley as I wasn't being sarcastic?

 Your workout was solid, good choice of exercises and good amount of volume/rep range.
thank you .. i love Barbell rows
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 22, 2013, 05:35:29 PM
i will make more pics Karen  ;) when i run tonight.
I might take a pic of my house blowing away.  I think there's a cyclone up north and we are now getting the shitty weather.   :D
But yes take pics I love them...I imagine I am burying my nose in all that snow.  Nose delight.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 22, 2013, 05:36:39 PM
Lol.. I don't get the use of the smiley as I wasn't being sarcastic?

 Your workout was solid, good choice of exercises and good amount of volume/rep range.
Alex start posting up your workouts.  And nice to have you in here btw, welcome. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 22, 2013, 05:53:51 PM
well the Germans being efficient people have great cycle paths and clear them fast. The snow was deep but not so deep you could not cycle but it was much harder. I just had to watch the down hill cycling as it was a bit tricky. Prime you sound like you have a great wife who looks after you.. ;)


My son and his family live in Uettingen, Germany. It is a quaint village in Bavaria, which is not far from Wurzburg. He married his German bride 25 years ago. Uettingen is her hometown. We love visiting them, however it is getting more and more expensive and complicated for us to do that between airfare and medical issues/equipment for my wife. She uses oxygen 100% of the time. On the plus side, we never have to worry about logging while we are there.

We look after each other. She is a great wife. Maybe that's the reason we have managed to stay married for 48 years. Of the two of us, she is the better person.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 03:31:20 AM
My son and his family live in Uettingen, Germany. It is a quaint village in Bavaria, which is not far from Wurzburg. He married his German bride 25 years ago. Uettingen is her hometown. We love visiting them, however it is getting more and more expensive and complicated for us to do that between airfare and medical issues/equipment for my wife. She uses oxygen 100% of the time. On the plus side, we never have to worry about logging while we are there.

We look after each other. She is a great wife. Maybe that's the reason we have managed to stay married for 48 years. Of the two of us, she is the better person.
I remember as a young soldier we used to go skiing in Bavaria and we called it eX Snow Queen( they liked to name everything). we had a ski hut/lodge which the Regiment rented and we lived there. I enjoyed the Down hill skiing but also the Langlauf cross country skiing.. there were routes to follow and we went from Cafe to Cafe and got Drunk on Glühwein ;D. they stopped it after a guy had an accident on the Ski slope, this guy used to just fly down the slopes and shout , "BANZIE".. no joke. the slopes were colour coded to show the difficulty and this Guy was drunk and just went for it on a difficult slope i think it was colour code RED. anyway he broke a leg so the instructor got into trouble( we had our own guys as instructors) and we then had to behave ourselves. Yes Prime..i have good memories of the Girls there too...lots of Rich girls skiing with Mummy and Daddy and they loved to party with us. Great Times.
well Prime i live near HANNOVER and feel free to give me a shout if you are over.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 04:02:25 AM
was planning to do legs today but i will take today off because i feel it today after my chest+back workouts..good fatigue. I will do an Ab workout and go for a walk tonight to stretch off my legs and lower back and tomorrow i will Squat hard and Pre Exhaust my Quads and Hams. i think you have to listen to your body and take a rest when you need it. This is not being lazy and at 46 i know and feel when i need to take a Day off.My older son is laughing at me now as he is packing his Gym Bag to go and Train...he tells me there are some nice Girls where he trains... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 23, 2013, 04:51:37 AM
donny in germany is it mandatory to do a stint in military?had a guy i worked with stationed in germany loved it,and my training partner who's turkish lived in germany for a bit...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 05:57:46 AM
donny in germany is it mandatory to do a stint in military?had a guy i worked with stationed in germany loved it,and my training partner who's turkish lived in germany for a bit...
well you know iīm a Scot..and was in the British Army. When i joined it was still the cold war time and a lot of us got sent to BAOR ( British Army of the Rheine). The US Army were more in the South of Germany but i did work with them now and again. My Brother was in Germany too. I served :
1985 till 1989 Royal Artillery
1989 till 1995 Royal Corps of Signals

The Germans did do national service as we used to do years ago in the UK. I think the Germans had to do 9 months service if they got called up, have to ask my Brother in law as he did it..he was in the German Air Force.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 23, 2013, 06:01:05 AM
well you know iīm a Scot..and was in the British Army. When i joined it was still the cold war time and a lot of us got sent to BAOR ( British Army of the Rheine). The US Army were more in the South of Germany but i did work with them now and again. My Brother was in Germany too. I served :
1985 till 1989 Royal Artillery
1989 till 1995 Royal Corps of Signals

The Germans did do national service as we used to do years ago in the UK. I think the Germans had to do 9 months service if they got called up, have to ask my Brother in law as he did it..he was in the German Air Force.
YEAH,,THANKS FOR CLARIFYING....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 06:01:49 AM
I do not want to show inside but you get this when you leave and tells where you served,how long, medals ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 23, 2013, 09:39:45 AM
well i wimped out tonight i just jumped rope here at home for cardio...still a good workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 04:31:43 AM
so legs Today.. feeling very full of energy today.
Jump rope warm up. 10 minutes(1 min skipping 30 secs rest till i reach 10 mins)
Supersets
Leg extensions 3x10-15
Front squat 3x10+

leg curls 3x10-15
Dumbbell lunges 3x10( hit my Hams nice too)
standing one leg calf raises 3x15+ With
jumping rope( this is a great combination which i really enjoy, simple but effective)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 24, 2013, 04:39:38 AM
so legs Today.. feeling very full of energy today.
Jump rope warm up. 10 minutes(1 min skipping 30 secs rest till i reach 10 mins)
Supersets
Leg extensions 3x10-15
Front squat 3x10+

leg curls 3x10-15
Dumbbell lunges 3x10( hit my Hams nice too)
standing one leg calf raises 3x15+ With
jumping rope( this is a great combination which i really enjoy, simple but effective)


Good workout Donny.  I am hoping to train tomorrow, couldn't today as we have alot of flooding where I am and very strong winds from a cyclone up north.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 04:45:23 AM
Look after yourself Karen....stay indoors
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Post by: booty on January 24, 2013, 05:04:01 AM
Look after yourself Karen....stay indoors
I am trying to but I had to get food today.  My cats would never leave me alone if I didn't feed them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 05:13:15 AM
I am trying to but I had to get food today.  My cats would never leave me alone if I didn't feed them.
yeah make sure they get their Kitty cat food... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 24, 2013, 05:19:48 AM
yeah make sure they get their Kitty cat food... ;D
Yes they will turn from domesticated cats into big wild ones.  Plus I wouldn't be able to sleep if I didn't feed them.  It would keep me up all night feeling terrible.  I bought them chicken breast today because I give them that a couple of times a week.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 05:48:51 AM
Yes they will turn from domesticated cats into big wild ones.  Plus I wouldn't be able to sleep if I didn't feed them.  It would keep me up all night feeling terrible.  I bought them chicken breast today because I give them that a couple of times a week.
chicken breast?? get better fed than me...lol Itīs a bit warmer outside which is good as i will go later out on my bike, still got to wrap up though..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2013, 09:19:59 AM
BACK
CHINS X3
LOW PULLEY CABLE ROW
TBAR ROW ELEVATED TYPE CHEST TO PAD
FRONT PULLDOWN
CABLE ROPE UPPER SECTION PULL TO FACE HITS UPPER BACK/RHOMBOIDS

WEIGHTED HYPERS

BIS
CURL BAR PRE MADE BAR 80/90/100 ...12/12/10
DB CURLS 35,40,40 DID 6/8 REPS FULL THEN ADDITIONAL 5/6 FROM START POSITION TO MID POINT,,,LIKE THE 1ST PART OF 21'S
STRAIGHT BAR CURL  BAR CLOSE GRIP INSIDE RIGHT BEFORE IT HURTS WRISTS 3X 10/8/8
scott curl machine x2....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: chaos on January 24, 2013, 09:27:48 AM
You guys still being mature in here ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2013, 09:37:30 AM
You guys still being mature in here ???
TRYING,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 09:50:41 AM
BACK
CHINS X3
LOW PULLEY CABLE ROW
TBAR ROW ELEVATED TYPE CHEST TO PAD
FRONT PULLDOWN
CABLE ROPE UPPER SECTION PULL TO FACE HITS UPPER BACK/RHOMBOIDS

WEIGHTED HYPERS

BIS
CURL BAR PRE MADE BAR 80/90/100 ...12/12/10
DB CURLS 35,40,40 DID 6/8 REPS FULL THEN ADDITIONAL 5/6 FROM START POSITION TO MID POINT,,,LIKE THE 1ST PART OF 21'S
STRAIGHT BAR CURL  BAR CLOSE GRIP INSIDE RIGHT BEFORE IT HURTS WRISTS 3X 10/8/8
scott curl machine x2....
Intresting Arm workout... the closest grip i use is the inside of an ez bar (if you know what i mean) when doing preacher curls.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2013, 10:02:50 AM
Intresting Arm workout... the closest grip i use is the inside of an ez bar (if you know what i mean) when doing preacher curls.
depends on the ez bar hurts my wrist,,straight bar is just right..i did wider grip on the premade ez curl bar.im sore from the dumbells full to partial reps..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 10:03:26 AM
You guys still being mature in here ???
is anyone on getbig... ;D ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 24, 2013, 10:09:34 AM
depends on the ez bar hurts my wrist,,straight bar is just right..i did wider grip on the premade ez curl bar.im sore from the dumbells full to partial reps..
yes i have been experimenting too with a similar thing the 4x4x4 curls. you got to use lighter weight but it works...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 24, 2013, 10:11:25 AM
yes i have been experimenting too with a similar thing the 4x4x4 curls. you got to use lighter weight but it works...
it all works....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 24, 2013, 07:26:12 PM
You guys still being mature in here ???

Always....except when we act immature.  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 02:02:12 AM
chicken breast?? get better fed than me...lol Itīs a bit warmer outside which is good as i will go later out on my bike, still got to wrap up though..
Yes I find it fills them up and makes them very content.  I do spoil my pets.  Glad it's warmer for you though.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 02:53:54 AM
Yes I find it fills them up and makes them very content.  I do spoil my pets.  Glad it's warmer for you though.   :)
yes i will be going out tonight with a friend for a 1 hour fast walk..he is recovering from a knee and calf injury. He runs marathons and does other extreme cardio events. However now he told me that at 58 he is getting more injuries and really has just started to train serious with weights to prevent more happening. now he will train the muscles with a good intensive programme.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 03:05:51 AM
you know as i get older myself i think about my training a lot deeper and injuries, does not mean wrap yourself in cotton wool but to know the safer ways to train. Today i have to Double up with Shoulders+Arms due to time constraints this week:

Tri-set
Scott Db shoulder press 4x10 (thanks Monty)
BB front press 4x10
bent over rear delt raises 4x10
Will be a fairly intensive workout and the scott press will make the front press burn like hell.

Barbell curls 3x8-10 superset with
lying ez bar extensions 3x10

parallel bar dips 3xmax superset with
close grip chinning the Bar 3x max

crunches 2-3 sets to failure
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 05:12:24 AM
yes i will be going out tonight with a friend for a 1 hour fast walk..he is recovering from a knee and calf injury. He runs marathons and does other extreme cardio events. However now he told me that at 58 he is getting more injuries and really has just started to train serious with weights to prevent more happening. now he will train the muscles with a good intensive programme.
Are you doing his programme for him Donny?
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Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 05:31:02 AM
Are you doing his programme for him Donny?
he trains in a Gym here and i just gave him a few pointers on his training because he asked me. He told me the trainers at the gym only give a basic overview of exercises on your first visit then you are charged per session.. ???
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 05:39:24 AM
he trains in a Gym here and i just gave him a few pointers on his training because he asked me. He told me the trainers at the gym only give a basic overview of exercises on your first visit then you are charged per session.. ???
It sounds like they take you through the gym, an initiation and then you are on your own.  They expect you to pay for personal training sessions afterwards.  There are gyms like that here.  It's how they get members to pay for pt sessions.  Then there are other gyms and their memberships include programmes.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 05:45:32 AM
It sounds like they take you through the gym, an initiation and then you are on your own.  They expect you to pay for personal training sessions afterwards.  There are gyms like that here.  It's how they get members to pay for pt sessions.  Then there are other gyms and their memberships include programmes.
yes  and i said to him, use the Adduction/Abduction machine(s) because these are important too and the Gym owner said, "oh no these are only in the Womans training area" ::) so you canīt use them. sorry but i do not agree this is only for women..he has to use the cable apparatus with an ankle strap..works too but not the same.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 25, 2013, 10:33:11 AM
so my Training partner never turned up.. i hate when he does not phone to say he'll not make it.. anyway i had a good run, wrapped up well and really got a good sweat on. It was -11 outside so i kept a good pace going.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 25, 2013, 03:32:46 PM
I did entire back workout comprised only with different chinnig variation... 4x12 wide grip (palm fwd), 4 x10 vbar, 3x failure dhandle & 3x failure (palm facing) mid grip
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 25, 2013, 04:30:11 PM
delts
fr press smith x4
side laterals x3
bent rear laterals lying on bench face down inclined x3
uprights on smith x3
side laterals cable x2 no handle just cable hands at finish facing foward

traps shrugs fr and then 2x rear on smith 10/12 rep sets

calves standing calf raise 3 toe positions 8/8/8 each position 4 x around...

abs

put a new pic all together upper/lower..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 11:55:34 PM
so my Training partner never turned up.. i hate when he does not phone to say he'll not make it.. anyway i had a good run, wrapped up well and really got a good sweat on. It was -11 outside so i kept a good pace going.
That's rude and unreliable.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 11:56:34 PM
I did entire back workout comprised only with different chinnig variation... 4x12 wide grip (palm fwd), 4 x10 vbar, 3x failure dhandle & 3x failure (palm facing) mid grip
Good basic hardcore workout Alex.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 25, 2013, 11:57:56 PM
delts
fr press smith x4
side laterals x3
bent rear laterals lying on bench face down inclined x3
uprights on smith x3
side laterals cable x2 no handle just cable hands at finish facing foward

traps shrugs fr and then 2x rear on smith 10/12 rep sets

calves standing calf raise 3 toe positions 8/8/8 each position 4 x around...

abs

put a new pic all together upper/lower..
Looking good!!!!  You are very in proportion.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 12:03:21 AM
Legs.

Barbell back squats x 5 sets
SLD's x 3 sets
thigh extensions x 6 sets
seated leg curls x 6 sets
seated calf raises x 3 sets

Floods have stopped here and moved down south so i will commence my brisk walking tomorrow.  Just giving it another day to get rid of all the water on the walking track.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 26, 2013, 12:17:42 AM
Good basic hardcore workout Alex.

Thanks.. Just training around a lower back injury
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 26, 2013, 12:32:57 AM
Legs.

Barbell back squats x 5 sets
SLD's x 3 sets
thigh extensions x 6 sets
seated leg curls x 6 sets
seated calf raises x 3 sets

Floods have stopped here and moved down south so i will commence my brisk walking tomorrow.  Just giving it another day to get rid of all the water on the walking track.

The Pacific Northwest is on a warming trend. The good news is that it is warmer here. The bad news is that the rains have returned. I don't know what is better, cold or wet. Wet weather makes me feel colder sometimes then cold weather. I remember the good old days when I rode my bicycle to work in the rain and changed clothes when I got there. Back then,  once I got wet, I just went with it. These days when the only reason to get on my bicycle is for exercise , the decision to ride in the rain becomes harder to make.

I feel like my life is more focused on mental activities lately. I really could give a shit about how fit I look, which is a big change from previous times. Never-the-less, I know that to be mentally fit one must be also physically fit. At 68 years of age, I am thinking I will be around for another ten or fifteen years. I would like to think I have somethings of value to contribute to the world during the remains of my life. Clearly, the healthier I am, the more energy I have to pursue all that interests me.

Long story short, life has once again gotten in the way of me hitting the gym this week. I feel like such a failure. I know i have much to contribute to mature fitness and yet, week after week, I am not doing this. Well, in the words of Scarlet O'Hara in Gone With The Wind, tomorrow is another day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 26, 2013, 02:57:28 AM
I did entire back workout comprised only with different chinnig variation... 4x12 wide grip (palm fwd), 4 x10 vbar, 3x failure dhandle & 3x failure (palm facing) mid grip
Great workout and a good guidline for anyone who is unlucky to get a lower back injury...thanks for posting.
Looking good!!!!  You are very in proportion.
I agree njflex puts in some great regular workouts although working and 2 young Daughters to keep him busy...RESPECT !
Legs.

Barbell back squats x 5 sets
SLD's x 3 sets
thigh extensions x 6 sets
seated leg curls x 6 sets
seated calf raises x 3 sets

Floods have stopped here and moved down south so i will commence my brisk walking tomorrow.  Just giving it another day to get rid of all the water on the walking track.
your leg workout is one i would do too...i like it.

Prime..i was missing you on here.. you are a very likeable man... we hope you are around for at least the next 20 years...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 09:08:11 AM
Looking good!!!!  You are very in proportion.
thank you booty,,,i take the term bodybuilding /physique shaping seriously,,,everything in some sort of order,training,eating,sleep at least 6/7 hrs and i fall asleep within a minute laying down lol,,,my training is consistent and a wide array of exercises.movements,variations,rep schemes,with little rest betwwen sets i go partner goes and back ect,,,,,they vanity is something that is not great in excess trait but you have 1 healthy body given if it lasts at all at any age so why not if you love to take of it take it to the limits it could be,,,now training/eating/rest/take you far and 'natural'i use the term loosley supplements can take u only so farther ,then 'anabolics' are the closing deal to go to edge of the genetic limits breaks it,,,,all said and done if ur lucky to be peaked at 20,30,40 ect,,,thats great.i got lucky so far to achieve that,,,honestly speaking i did use steroids aged 19/23 few cycles nothing crazy but i did use,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 26, 2013, 12:51:19 PM
^ Great mature perspective, particularly when juggling family life and looking good all at the same time.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 01:01:20 PM
^ Great mature perspective, particularly when juggling family life and looking good all at the same time.
THANXS SAME TO U AS WELL,AND THIS CREW WHERE GROWING A NICE THREAD ,,DONNY WANTED IT AND STARTED It HE DID GOOD...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 26, 2013, 04:49:08 PM
thank you booty,,,i take the term bodybuilding /physique shaping seriously,,,everything in some sort of order,training,eating,sleep at least 6/7 hrs and i fall asleep within a minute laying down lol,,,my training is consistent and a wide array of exercises.movements,variations,rep schemes,with little rest betwwen sets i go partner goes and back ect,,,,,they vanity is something that is not great in excess trait but you have 1 healthy body given if it lasts at all at any age so why not if you love to take of it take it to the limits it could be,,,now training/eating/rest/take you far and 'natural'i use the term loosley supplements can take u only so farther ,then 'anabolics' are the closing deal to go to edge of the genetic limits breaks it,,,,all said and done if ur lucky to be peaked at 20,30,40 ect,,,thats great.i got lucky so far to achieve that,,,honestly speaking i did use steroids aged 19/23 few cycles nothing crazy but i did use,,,

You are not alone when it comes to steroid use. My doctor prescribed D-bol to help me gain some weight when I was in my late teens and early twenties. Now being a senior citizen, my urologist prescribed testosterone cypionate, which I was taking for a couple of years before I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. Although testosterone does not cause prostate cancer, once you have it, it accelerates the cancer's growth, which is why I stopped taking it. Now that I am cancer free, my doctor will prescribe it again if I decide I want him to. My energy levels were better when I was using the testosterone. Injecting test does get old after awhile even though I have no problem with needles. I was injecting once a week at a rate of .75 ml. This is nothing too drastic.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 06:01:44 PM
Thanks.. Just training around a lower back injury
Injuries suck.  Hope it heals up quickly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 06:05:16 PM
^ Great mature perspective, particularly when juggling family life and looking good all at the same time.

X 2 That's what I love about this thread.  Everyone who posts in here is mature, level headed and is supportive of one another offering good training advice and encouragement.   
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 06:20:27 PM
trip down contest lane,,,ages 22,23,27....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 06:23:11 PM
3 more sorry...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 06:46:43 PM
Omg look at you njflex...wow!  Very impressive, you got conditioning down thats for sure and have a very good Physquie...Great legs!!!  

Edit:  Great everything, I just especially love your legs!   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 06:52:37 PM
Omg look at you njflex...wow!  Very impressive, you got conditioning down thats for sure and have a very good Physquie...Great legs!!!  

Edit:  Great everything, I just especially love your legs!   ;D
those yrs seem like yesterday 91/92/96,,,best yrs in jersey to compete,great fun,,,miss those days booty,,,yeah people always freak out with my legs ...i showed up ripped every show main thing diet,,, hated being under hot lights prejudging tho,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 07:12:53 PM
those yrs seem like yesterday 91/92/96,,,best yrs in jersey to compete,great fun,,,miss those days booty,,,yeah people always freak out with my legs ...i showed up ripped every show main thing diet,,, hated being under hot lights prejudging tho,,,
The 90's was a great era.  You definitely looked ripped in every pic.  Hot lights suck especially trying to stop the tan from running.  I don't enjoy cramping either.  My calves always get a bit crampy when I competed. 
Change of subject, I think I hurt my ear drum during training legs yesterday.  I was straining and felt something happen in my ears to my jaw.  Anyway last night I had to be careful eating and today my jaw feels much better but I feel sore in my left ear.  My ears are connected to my nose.  I am still going to train today but I might go to my doctor tomorrow if It doesn't feel any better by the morning. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 07:17:20 PM
The 90's was a great era.  You definitely looked ripped in every pic.  Hot lights suck especially trying to stop the tan from running.  I don't enjoy cramping either.  My calves always get a bit crampy when I competed. 
Change of subject, I think I hurt my ear drum during training legs yesterday.  I was straining and felt something happen in my ears to my jaw.  Anyway last night I had to be careful eating and today my jaw feels much better but I feel sore in my left ear.  My ears are connected to my nose.  I am still going to train today but I might go to my doctor tomorrow if It doesn't feel any better by the morning. 
i guess ur pain is tied in,,,,stay positive it will keep u motivated,,if u feel like recovery is not right check w/doctor ...u probably have heard this 'to slow down'but it's difficult cause u love to train,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 26, 2013, 07:20:48 PM
i guess ur pain is tied in,,,,stay positive it will keep u motivated,,if u feel like recovery is not right check w/doctor ...u probably have heard this 'to slow down'but it's difficult cause u love to train,,,
I am feeling positive.  I don't think it's anything serious, just a little uncomfortable.  My strength yesterday in the legs was right up there...I am back to the weights I was lifting and so I couldn't slow down.  Today is chest and since I only train my upper chest since I have implants underneath the muscle it shouldn't affect my ears/nose etc.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 26, 2013, 07:25:29 PM
I am feeling positive.  I don't think it's anything serious, just a little uncomfortable.  My strength yesterday in the legs was right up there...I am back to the weights I was lifting and so I couldn't slow down.  Today is chest and since I only train my upper chest since I have implants underneath the muscle it shouldn't affect my ears/nose etc.
i do same thing keep throttle on training wise,,,hate setbacks,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 27, 2013, 01:16:21 AM
I enjoyed reading all the newposts and pictures...great stuff people  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 27, 2013, 01:31:27 AM
Killa build njflex!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 27, 2013, 01:45:03 AM
Great Delts and i like his crazy shaped Abs...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 27, 2013, 06:01:20 AM
 I wish I could get my body to look that good again. I was there in the early 90`s but I let it go.

 I haven`t done shit this week except work from 8am til 7pm everyday. Come home, shower and collapse, and then go do it again. I can see daylight now on this project and should be able to start easing up on the hours by the end of next week, my deadline is Feb 1 to get this factory cleaned and ready so its non negotiable.
 The stress on my body has been rough, my eyeballs have started twitching and I pretty much drove home asleep Friday night.
 I have told my wife its time for a break so after the factory is online I told her we are going to Hawaii for a week. I booked the trip already and we fly out Feb 22nd and stay until March 1st.
 I went for a walk yesterday and pretty much ate a whole pizza last night,  :D, I just want to lift a bit today and maybe go for another walk before its time to start the insanity again tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 27, 2013, 10:13:25 AM
legs today  :P....
warm up extensions sets 12 reps 195,205.230,245,250,,stack type pin model
hack squats 3 plates per side 10,4 x10,5 x10
squat close stance 275 x12,315 x10,315 x10
db walking lunges 2x 50lbers

hams
seated leg curl x3 sets 8-10 195,195,210..
lying leg curl stack type x3 reps 10 140,155,165

calves super set 3x 10 reps per set leg press 3 plates per side then seated calf raise 3 plates ,,,great pump...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 27, 2013, 10:48:24 PM
I've got to post up yesterdays workout and todays.  For those who don't know, we are experiencing big floods in queensland australia and the phone lines, ATM machines and internet was down for almost 24 hours due to a phone line getting taken out in brisbane floods.  I couldn't get online but that's not the worse of it.  Haven't been able to get any money out or get food as its australia long weekened here so its a public holiday today.  No doubt alot of businesses would have been affected with no atm machines working etc.  Three people are dead from the floods...RIP, very sad news.  It's expected to get worse tonight as the river in brisbane peaks around 6pm so hopefully there are no more deaths.

Yesterday trained chest.

Incline db presses x 5 sets
Incline db flyes x 4 sets

Finished off with 20 mins on treadmill.  I wanted to walk outdoors but the high levels of humidity and heat are literally unbearable.  I can't walk outside...will have to wait until the humidity decreases.


Today trained back.

I am feeling a bit drained and flat in energy.  So it was not much volume.

Lat pulldowns to front x 3 sets
Seated pully rowes x 5 sets
back extensions x 3 sets

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 27, 2013, 11:43:29 PM
We've been getting a bit of rain down south but nothing as serious as what's happening up north.

Trained traps/shoulders.

3 sets of db rear lateral raises 8-12 reps (1/2 pyramid)
5 set of db side lateral raises 8-12 reps (last 2 descending strip sets)
4 sets of db shoulder presses 8 reps (weight raised progressively heavier if 8 reps reached in good form).
4 sets of bb upright rows 8 reps
4 sets of db shrugs

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio -whilst working out and doing the cardio. I got to listen to John Romano on VPX POWER HIT Radio (episode 16) http://www.vpxsports.com/resources/audio-media/vpx-radio/new-power-hit-radio do an informative interview with Christian Duque talking about how Aaron Singerman was lying about some communication he said to have had with Jim Manion. Lol!

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 27, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
We've been getting a bit of rain down south but nothing as serious as what's happening up north.

Trained traps/shoulders.

3 sets of db rear lateral raises 8-12 reps (1/2 pyramid)
5 set of db side lateral raises 8-12 reps (last 2 descending strip sets)
4 sets of db shoulder presses 8 reps (weight raised progressively heavier if 8 reps reached in good form).
4 sets of bb upright rows 8 reps
4 sets of db shrugs

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio -whilst working out and doing the cardio. I got to listen to John Romano on VPX POWER HIT Radio (episode 16) http://www.vpxsports.com/resources/audio-media/vpx-radio/new-power-hit-radio do an informative interview with Christian Duque talking about how Aaron Singerman was lying about some communication he said to have had with Jim Manion. Lol!


Is that a recent radio show Alex?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 27, 2013, 11:51:02 PM
Is that a recent radio show Alex?

Very recent, you should listen to it, you'll like it - shows yet another person who's been a victim of Singerman's underhanded manoeuvrings.. Start it at around the 40 min mark?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 27, 2013, 11:56:16 PM
Very recent, you should listen to it, you'll like it - shows yet another person who's been a victim of Singerman's underhanded manoeuvrings.. Start it at around the 40 min mark?
I will listen actually.  It's too hot here to walk anyway. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 02:43:18 AM
I just had a power cut a little while ago, so if I am not online again tonight..that's why.  I honestly think I will die tonight if there is no electricity...no air con, no fans even... :(  This heat is sickening, I fucken HATE it!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 04:30:11 AM
well here itīs just snow and wind...
so itīs chest today:
skipping 10 minutes
hanging knee raises on vertical bench 3x20-30
sit ups on small bench 3x20-30

Flat Barbell press 3x6-10
flat DB flyes 3x12+
Incline DB press 3x10
incline DB flyes 3x12+
1-2 sets of max push ups

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 04:53:45 AM
I wish I could get my body to look that good again. I was there in the early 90`s but I let it go.

 I haven`t done shit this week except work from 8am til 7pm everyday. Come home, shower and collapse, and then go do it again. I can see daylight now on this project and should be able to start easing up on the hours by the end of next week, my deadline is Feb 1 to get this factory cleaned and ready so its non negotiable.
 The stress on my body has been rough, my eyeballs have started twitching and I pretty much drove home asleep Friday night.
 I have told my wife its time for a break so after the factory is online I told her we are going to Hawaii for a week. I booked the trip already and we fly out Feb 22nd and stay until March 1st.
 I went for a walk yesterday and pretty much ate a whole pizza last night,  :D, I just want to lift a bit today and maybe go for another walk before its time to start the insanity again tomorrow.
Do not worry about the pizza...LOL i eat one now and again. I think maybe you should look into Abbreviated routines and even ultra abbreviated routines with even only 2 or 3 Basic power moves.
Example taken from Brawn:
Monday: Squat with Parallel Bar Dip
Thursday: partial stiff legged Deadlift with Press
Saturday: Bench press with One_arm DB rows

arm work and calfes can be worked in there. you have a very hard job and so i would be "Efficient" as possible...

We've been getting a bit of rain down south but nothing as serious as what's happening up north.

Trained traps/shoulders.

3 sets of db rear lateral raises 8-12 reps (1/2 pyramid)
5 set of db side lateral raises 8-12 reps (last 2 descending strip sets)
4 sets of db shoulder presses 8 reps (weight raised progressively heavier if 8 reps reached in good form).
4 sets of bb upright rows 8 reps
4 sets of db shrugs

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio -whilst working out and doing the cardio. I got to listen to John Romano on VPX POWER HIT Radio (episode 16) http://www.vpxsports.com/resources/audio-media/vpx-radio/new-power-hit-radio do an informative interview with Christian Duque talking about how Aaron Singerman was lying about some communication he said to have had with Jim Manion. Lol!


gonna listen to this..hardcore workout like njflex nice volume in there. just upright rows i canīt do..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2013, 05:33:11 AM
Do not worry about the pizza...LOL i eat one now and again. I think maybe you should look into Abbreviated routines and even ultra abbreviated routines with even only 2 or 3 Basic power moves.
Example taken from Brawn:
Monday: Squat with Parallel Bar Dip
Thursday: partial stiff legged Deadlift with Press
Saturday: Bench press with One_arm DB rows

arm work and calfes can be worked in there. you have a very hard job and so i would be "Efficient" as possible...
 gonna listen to this..hardcore workout like njflex nice volume in there. just upright rows i canīt do..
i like up rights and occassionally with a bar i get some stiffness,so i use smith machine instead or cable version with small bar or i use 2 cable handles to do them  like those the best.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:37:44 AM
i like up rights and occassionally with a bar i get some stiffness,so i use smith machine instead or cable version with small bar or i use 2 cable handles to do them  like those the best.
i used to be able to do them but i get a good effect from DB shrugs and DB side raises so i stick with these.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 28, 2013, 04:01:38 PM
I just had a power cut a little while ago, so if I am not online again tonight..that's why.  I honestly think I will die tonight if there is no electricity...no air con, no fans even... :(  This heat is sickening, I fucken HATE it!

Last week we had really cold weather for our area. This week it has really warmed up. Unfortunately, with the warmer weather we also get rain. So it is about 42 degrees Fahrenheit, windy and wet right now. The dogs and I prefer cold and dry to warmer and wet.....but that is what you get when you live in the Pacific Northwest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 04:08:04 PM
Last week we had really cold weather for our area. This week it has really warmed up. Unfortunately, with the warmer weather we also get rain. So it is about 42 degrees Fahrenheit, windy and wet right now. The dogs and I prefer cold and dry to warmer and wet.....but that is what you get when you live in the Pacific Northwest.
well prime i still want an invite to Dinner !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 28, 2013, 04:17:07 PM
well prime i still want an invite to Dinner !

You got it. Although tonight we are taking it easy with cooking; we are having Marie Callender's chicken pot pies. -Pretty simple fix....freezer to oven to plate to mouth to stomach. Last night my wife fixed a great pork stew. It had orange segments and cranberries in it along with some savory foods like onions and garlic. It was a nice combination of sweet and savory. She served it with white rice and steamed miniature green beans. For desert we had coconut crisps. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 04:28:50 PM
You got it. Although tonight we are taking it easy with cooking; we are having Marie Callender's chicken pot pies. -Pretty simple fix....freezer to oven to plate to mouth to stomach. Last night my wife fixed a great pork stew. It had orange segments and cranberries in it along with some savory foods like onions and garlic. It was a nice combination of sweet and savory. She served it with white rice and steamed miniature green beans. For desert we had coconut crisps. 
if i am ever over there i will give you a shout.. makes me hungry reading it !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on January 28, 2013, 05:33:54 PM
 Feeling better, made it through a good workout yesterday - bench, bb rows, clean and press, curls & hammer curls. Knocked off work tonight at 5 so I could make it to boxing class and had a real good workout there. Whatever cold/cough I had seems to have finally worked its way out of my system and I have some good energy coming back.
 Being sick and run down is miserable. Making pan seared chicken breast with bbq sauce over romaine lettuce with a little caesar dressing tonight, no more pizza for a while.  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 06:42:26 PM
Feeling better, made it through a good workout yesterday - bench, bb rows, clean and press, curls & hammer curls. Knocked off work tonight at 5 so I could make it to boxing class and had a real good workout there. Whatever cold/cough I had seems to have finally worked its way out of my system and I have some good energy coming back.
 Being sick and run down is miserable. Making pan seared chicken breast with bbq sauce over romaine lettuce with a little caesar dressing tonight, no more pizza for a while.  :D
your workouts are important but your health and well being are the first priority.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2013, 06:55:00 PM
glad everyone is well here ,,,,

good chest and tri's

inc dbell warmup 45's x2 15 reps...65x12,70x10,80x8
hammer sit up lowchest press 2plate and 25 x10,2 sets 3 plates x10/8
hammer flat 3 sets x10 2 plates per side
flat flyes 50 x10,55 x8,60x8
low cable pull flye x2

tri's donny special triset
dip machine x10,seated extension x10,rope pulldowns x10 ,,3 times around great pump
2x's holding cable ball at end kickbacks x10

abs,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:09:13 PM
glad everyone is well here ,,,,

good chest and tri's

inc dbell warmup 45's x2 15 reps...65x12,70x10,80x8
hammer sit up lowchest press 2plate and 25 x10,2 sets 3 plates x10/8
hammer flat 3 sets x10 2 plates per side
flat flyes 50 x10,55 x8,60x8
low cable pull flye x2

tri's donny special triset
dip machine x10,seated extension x10,rope pulldowns x10 ,,3 times around great pump
2x's holding cable ball at end kickbacks x10

abs,,,

my tris would be exhausted after your chest workout..OUTSTANDING
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:12:05 PM
Last week we had really cold weather for our area. This week it has really warmed up. Unfortunately, with the warmer weather we also get rain. So it is about 42 degrees Fahrenheit, windy and wet right now. The dogs and I prefer cold and dry to warmer and wet.....but that is what you get when you live in the Pacific Northwest.
I am jealous of your cold weather. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:13:43 PM
Feeling better, made it through a good workout yesterday - bench, bb rows, clean and press, curls & hammer curls. Knocked off work tonight at 5 so I could make it to boxing class and had a real good workout there. Whatever cold/cough I had seems to have finally worked its way out of my system and I have some good energy coming back.
 Being sick and run down is miserable. Making pan seared chicken breast with bbq sauce over romaine lettuce with a little caesar dressing tonight, no more pizza for a while.  :D
Good to see that you are in the recovery of your virus/flu/cold and getting back to training with lots of energy.   :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2013, 07:14:19 PM
I am jealous of your cold weather. 
how ya feeling karen,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:15:40 PM
how ya feeling karen,,,
x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:29:26 PM
how ya feeling karen,,,
I think my ear is a bit better.  It still feels weird though but I have managed to train without it getting worse.  I am just having a issue with this heat.  I had to run around  today with my daughter alot in the car and the heat is unbearable.  I was a ball of sweat.  I really want to walk outside tonight but the heat has been stopping me the past few days but I want to get back to my routine.  I think I might just have to put my water bottle in the freezer and get the water frozen and just do it.  I will probably cry though.  I might jump in the pond around the track and not give a fuck that a croc lives in there.  I think I am getting crazy from this heatwave.  I will take a knife with me like crocodile dundee.   :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:31:54 PM
x2
Want to swap countries???  I am starting to dislike australia. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:34:17 PM
Want to swap countries???  I am starting to dislike australia. 
I would love to see your country...the Koala bears...ok sounds romantic but i would love to touch a Koala..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 28, 2013, 07:38:38 PM
I think my ear is a bit better.  It still feels weird though but I have managed to train without it getting worse.  I am just having a issue with this heat.  I had to run around  today with my daughter alot in the car and the heat is unbearable.  I was a ball of sweat.  I really want to walk outside tonight but the heat has been stopping me the past few days but I want to get back to my routine.  I think I might just have to put my water bottle in the freezer and get the water frozen and just do it.  I will probably cry though.  I might jump in the pond around the track and not give a fuck that a croc lives in there.  I think I am getting crazy from this heatwave.  I will take a knife with me like crocodile dundee.   :D
wow,,is it bothering you due to operation or in general discomfort?is it normal this time of year,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 28, 2013, 07:40:18 PM
I would love to see your country...the Koala bears...ok sounds romantic but i would love to touch a Koala..

Lol.. Booty lives in a pretty wild part of the country (far north queensland) where theres warm weather year round and extremely tropical/stormy at this time of the year which lends itself to the kinda places Crocs hangout. Koalas are found more or less all over the country except obviously in the centre of the big cities and built up suburbia.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:45:46 PM
Lol.. Booty lives in a pretty wild part of the country (far north queensland) where theres warm weather year round and extremely tropical/stormy at this time of the year which lends itself to the kinda places Crocs hangout. Koalas are found more or less all over the country except obviously in the centre of the big cities and built up suburbia.
Yes it's wild up here Alex.  I can pretty much handle the wildlife and getting up to baby snakes in my kitchen is pretty much the norm now...so much that the last one I saved and put back in the garden.  I couldn't believe that the snake actually pretended to play dead when I touched it.  I felt sorry for it and ended saving the little guy.  I must be going soft.   :-\
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:46:01 PM
Lol.. Booty lives in a pretty wild part of the country (far north queensland) where theres warm weather year round and extremely tropical/stormy at this time of the year which lends itself to the kinda places Crocs hangout. Koalas are found more or less all over the country except obviously in the centre of the big cities and built up suburbia.
the Australians i met i liked..really sound guys. Donīt want to meet a crock...but the Koala Bears and other stuff...Kangaroos i want to touch and see. Of course living there is not so romantic as my thoughts but still..i like Aussies
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:47:47 PM
I would love to see your country...the Koala bears...ok sounds romantic but i would love to touch a Koala..
Here's a picture that my friend took when she was driving back from work which was about 15 mins out of town. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:51:49 PM
wow,,is it bothering you due to operation or in general discomfort?is it normal this time of year,,,
Remember how I said that I hurt it during my leg workout the other day?  My ears are connected to my nose...I think I over strained or something and hurt something in there.  It's not an ear ache but a different kind of discomfort.  And yes this weather and heat is normal for this time of the year, although this year aussie has had some of the highest recorded heat waves ever. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:52:18 PM
look nice but i bet they bite...still i always liked Australians. we had a Sgt Maj from the Australian Army come to us...great guy.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 07:56:24 PM
look nice but i bet they bite...still i always liked Australians. we had a Sgt Maj from the Australian Army come to us...great guy.
I have never heard of a Koala biting you.  They are always really sleepy from eating gum leaves all day.  They just lay in your arms.  I love koalas they are so sweet and soft to touch.  Nicer than a snake anyday. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 07:58:33 PM
I have never heard of a Koala biting you.  They are always really sleepy from eating gum leaves all day.  They just lay in your arms.  I love koalas they are so sweet and soft to touch.  Nicer than a snake anyday. 
does the gum leaves make them high?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 28, 2013, 08:05:21 PM
I don't think Koalas bite, these days (I am pretty sure) they've stopped allowing people at the zoo from petting them - something them being protected and germs risking their health. Japanese tourists seem to have gotten around that issue by bribing the handlers lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 28, 2013, 08:06:18 PM
does the gum leaves make them high?
yeah it does, they don't drink water either - lazy little shits
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 08:09:29 PM
yeah it does, they don't drink water either - lazy little shits
ha ha..love them  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 28, 2013, 08:15:04 PM
so i will have to love you and leave you my friends...itīs bed time here. I will visit Australia...one Day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 28, 2013, 08:36:16 PM
does the gum leaves make them high?
Yes it does.  We have birds here also that drink some nector and get drunk and then fall out of trees. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 29, 2013, 12:51:14 AM
Just saw this link concerning the massive internet, atm, phone outage north queensland experienced over the long weekened.  Unbelieveable that people in emergency floods couldn't even call for help because triple O wasn't working. 

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/telstra-sorry-north-qld-outage-232103041.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 05:49:45 AM
Just saw this link concerning the massive internet, atm, phone outage north queensland experienced over the long weekened.  Unbelieveable that people in emergency floods couldn't even call for help because triple O wasn't working. 

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/telstra-sorry-north-qld-outage-232103041.html
really terrible conditions, the weather around the globe in the last few years is really changing for the worst. keep safe Karen...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 06:02:06 AM
so back today::
as always 10 mins skipping untill i get a light sweat on, 1 min jump rope. 30 secs break till i reach 10 mins.
ABS: Reverse crunch 3x to failure Superset with
Crunches(feet in the air) 3x to failure i will throw in a few twisting..i really do not train my obliques so much.

Sternum chins 3x max
Barbell rows 4x10
Barbell Rows underhand grip 4x10
Deadlifts 4x10
DB shrugs 3x12-15(after the Deads i like to isolate the traps with shrugs)

I might do a couple of sets of DB pullovers depending how it goes...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 09:05:40 AM
so back today::
as always 10 mins skipping untill i get a light sweat on, 1 min jump rope. 30 secs break till i reach 10 mins.
ABS: Reverse crunch 3x to failure Superset with
Crunches(feet in the air) 3x to failure i will throw in a few twisting..i really do not train my obliques so much.

Sternum chins 3x max
Barbell rows 4x10
Barbell Rows underhand grip 4x10
Deadlifts 4x10
DB shrugs 3x12-15(after the Deads i like to isolate the traps with shrugs)

I might do a couple of sets of DB pullovers depending how it goes...
NICE,,,,CLASSIC POWER WORKOUT,,,I LIKE PULLDOWNS.LOTS OF ROWS CABLE,BENT OVER,TBAR ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 09:22:17 AM
this workout really hits my back hard from traps to erectors....simple and effective.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 09:24:08 AM
this workout really hits my back hard from traps to erectors....simple and effective.
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COOL...I LIKE WEIGHTED HYPERS DO THEM EVRY WORKOUT,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 09:35:01 AM
this workout really hits my back hard from traps to erectors....simple and effective.
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COOL...I LIKE WEIGHTED HYPERS DO THEM EVRY WORKOUT,,,
I like them too but i am on the move a lot during the day and i travel from school sport hall to another hall. The club uses school sport halls for diffrent sports and martial arts. when i am in the main building of the club i can use machines and cardio equipment but trouble is i canīt during working hours and afterwards if i train i do not get peace to train because you are always asked things. I got my own equipment a while back when i worked in security and did a lot of nights. I then worked for a private firm doing private functions and fashion shows and such..was fun but point is i have always liked to train when i like and control my time and not have to work around anything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 10:24:05 AM
I liked this video...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 29, 2013, 12:47:07 PM
Chest/abs

4 sets of 30 degree incline bb presses 20-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 sets of flat bb press 12-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 (super)sets vbar dips/db pullovers (to failure)

4 (super)sets of leg raises/incline crunches 25 reps

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio
15 mins HIT jump rope intervals
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 01:04:35 PM
Chest/abs

4 sets of 30 degree incline bb presses 20-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 sets of flat bb press 12-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 (super)sets vbar dips/db pullovers (to failure)

4 (super)sets of leg raises/incline crunches 25 reps

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio
15 mins HIT jump rope intervals
nice,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 01:35:56 PM
Chest/abs

4 sets of 30 degree incline bb presses 20-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 sets of flat bb press 12-8 reps (1/2 pyramid)
4 (super)sets vbar dips/db pullovers (to failure)

4 (super)sets of leg raises/incline crunches 25 reps

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio
15 mins HIT jump rope intervals
i like the superset of V bar dips and pullovers...intense.  your cardio is very hard too.. 30 mins then 15 mins HIT jumping rope..a real pro. nice intensity because i have always believed that Bodybuilders should also be cardio fit and be ..yes athletic and not so big that you canīt function normally. Frank Zane... a man who brought zen to Bodybuilding.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 01:44:34 PM
I am a firm believer in combining zen and Bodybuilding. I take this too from my Martial Arts background but i like Frank Zanes Intelligence and philosophy
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 03:57:07 PM
I am a firm believer in combining zen and Bodybuilding. I take this too from my Martial Arts background but i like Frank Zanes Intelligence and philosophy
i love zane's approach,and ways as well,,he knew how to pose to his strenghts ,today guys hit a few most muscular's and arm poses wave to crowd to bring it on then more of the same poses.for a big man dorian yates has some cool poses and transitions ,,he stomped his leg down on rear poses and front arm pose turned his calf out looked like a ham hanging off shin,,,,back to zane great quote 'my body is a piece of clay and as a sculptor dumbell and barbells are the chisel's...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 04:17:32 PM
FRANK ZANE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 05:10:46 PM
FRANK ZANE

that wasn't even his best...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 29, 2013, 05:23:44 PM
i like the superset of V bar dips and pullovers...intense.  your cardio is very hard too.. 30 mins then 15 mins HIT jumping rope..a real pro. nice intensity because i have always believed that Bodybuilders should also be cardio fit and be ..yes athletic and not so big that you canīt function normally. Frank Zane... a man who brought zen to Bodybuilding.

Thanks! Super sets are a great way to jack intensity, especially when training alone. The cardio IMO is not that hard as I use the 30 mins on the bike to essentially warm up the lower half.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 06:42:06 PM
Thanks! Super sets are a great way to jack intensity, especially when training alone. The cardio IMO is not that hard as I use the 30 mins on the bike to essentially warm up the lower half.
I like to train very fast and supersets i like.. i do them for antagonistic muscles or i just train the same muscle Pre-exhaust style which i really like for legs.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 07:26:35 PM
ok, my friend donny asked me to state some examples for arm training, so here i am.

firstly, dont be affraid of overtraining them, even as a natural.

how would you know where the limit is if you didnt try to go full out on them.

ok, first, this one isnt training per se, but do pump them up randomly at home, by flexing, by whatever means necesary.
this helps developing a good feeling to squeeze the muscle, may increase definition(arnold believed so,and i do too btw), and for me,it increased vascularity over time.

second:
traiing back and benchpress is not an arm training.i believe in training arms on their own, a just arms day.i think its better than doing couple half assed sets of arms after benchpress.

i train 1 bodypart at a time,except legs as a whole and arm as a whole on 1day each.

yes, if you destroy your triceps today, your bench or shoulder press will suffer the day after, but this doesnt matter,it will not stop growth.
another thing is to smartly work around intererence of muscle groups.something like day1 chest,day2 leg2,day 3 arms, day4 off, day 5 back, day 6 back.
i dont have particular training plan, i just train the mscle that feels fresh on that particular day, at times im horribly off, but so what.

now, if youre on say back day, do a couple pump sets for triceps anyway.

if youre on chest day, do some biceps sets anyway.

after legs workout, pump your arms up, couple sets to get some bloodflow into them.

now on the arms day itself, do something like this:

-properly warm up

-no cheating on movement, no swinging, except maybe for the last reps on some sets.otherwise stay strict in form.

-do double the amount of sets for triceps compared to biceps.

-dont forget to hit the brachialis muscle, best is reverse grip sz bar curls and hammer curls with dumbells.this will absolutely add either size of definition to the arms, whichever happens,its positive.

-the best exercise for triceps bar none,imho, are french press,resp skullcrushers.do the skullcrushers on INCLINE bench, some 20-30 degree angle, and contrary to what a personal trainer homo would say, do not keep the elbows as close as possible, make yourself comfortable.
use a close grip with sz bar, but keep the elbows outward,not close.
why.this will enable you to use more weight than on flat bench, and put LESS stress on the joints.try and see for yourselves.

-close grip bench press,i dont believe in this exercise.

-dips, these are good.however, theres different forms, if you lean forward, youll rather hit the chest, make sure to be dead straight during all the movement and keep both elbows tightly pressed to your ribs.dont go all the way down, the further down you go on those,the more youll hit the chest muscle.

-dumbell kickbacks are a joke, dont waste your time on those.

-dumbell overhead press is suboptimal,dont waste time on this.

-cable exercises, theyre good, use 1 arm, stand close to the tower,use full range, always always elbow tight to the ribs,and when the 1arm cant do full range anymore, help out with the other for some extra reps.then ofc exchange arms.
always use full motion.
dont lock out the elbows,on none of the exercises.

2arm movements on cable are also good, no doubt.pick your grip and tool you feel comfy with.

now, brachialis ive covered.hammer curls,reverse grip sz curls theres noting to add there.

now for biceps, for sinbgle arm dumbell curls, lock the shoulder out forward,let the whole arm hang, never strectch it fully out, just barely full and use maximum range.

also, for standing curls with bar,sz or olympic bar is choice of preference, always pull back the shoulders all the way,like for benchpress and keep them back firmly, now curl,all the way down.

some 10 sets biceps and 20 for triceps will do.

not every set must be to total failure, alternate between easy weight sets and heavby ones.
as for repetition ranges, try bit of everything betwen 6 and up to 20.

the above is precisely what i do and this has given me the best results in all those years.

ps, be fast paced, in general,on any muscle.not much talking and chitchat on iphone.when you can breathe after previous set, you can train again.

hope this helps 8)
<thank you..very sound advice. I love to hear diffrent aproaches to training and if i can learn a small piece from what i read i will make gains.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 07:28:24 PM
good stuff galineko,,,,,donny knows i like forearms and balance top to bottom tri down on arms,,,old skool side chest too,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 07:37:06 PM
I have small joints and hands... my upper arms are strong but i really suffer with my small hands and wrists
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 07:39:03 PM
I have small joints and hands... my upper arms are strong but i really suffer with my small hands and wrists
i loved the way arnold hit his side chest and nubret/ferrigno..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 07:40:33 PM
Deadlifting and shrugs hit my lower arms hard... like anyone but i really have to concentrate and only use straps when i am very fatigued.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 07:43:35 PM
Deadlifting and shrugs hit my lower arms hard... like anyone but i really have to concentrate and only use straps when i am very fatigued.
i use straps to shrug and heavy back work,,,thats why i throw forearms workouts in ,,i like training them tho,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 29, 2013, 07:52:10 PM
i use straps to shrug and heavy back work,,,thats why i throw forearms workouts in ,,i like training them tho,,
well you got great lower arms like mike mentzer or chuck sipes..power is in your grip
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 29, 2013, 07:55:31 PM
well you got great lower arms like mike mentzer or chuck sipes..power is in your grip
sipes and mike rip,,,,powerful guys,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 29, 2013, 09:01:46 PM
I'm glad I stumbled onto this thread.. I'm getting some great ideas/variations from you fookers! :-*
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 29, 2013, 11:39:22 PM
I'm glad I stumbled onto this thread.. I'm getting some great ideas/variations from you fookers! :-*
Yes good to have you join us Alex.  I am getting lots of good ideas here also. 

So today I trained delts and did cardio indoors as it's still too hot outside to walk.

Delts.

Db shoulder presses x 4 sets
Upright rowes x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets

30 mins cardio consisting of 15 mins treadmill and 15 mins bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 04:27:04 AM
nice one Karen...how are things over there with the weather? hope you are keeping safe
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 30, 2013, 04:32:52 AM
nice one Karen...how are things over there with the weather? hope you are keeping safe
I am lucky I live on the coast and even though we had very bad floods a few years ago, lately it seems that floods are occuring inland and so it hasn't happened here.  The floods are 4 hours south of me so the only issue I am having is that my town is low on stock like food and water as the trucks are unable to get up because of roads that are flooded and closed.  I went shopping today and there were many shelves empty. 
I just want this weather to ease up a bit though.  It has been 45 degrees celicus during the day here and around 35 degrees celicus at night. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 04:43:29 AM
I am lucky I live on the coast and even though we had very bad floods a few years ago, lately it seems that floods are occuring inland and so it hasn't happened here.  The floods are 4 hours south of me so the only issue I am having is that my town is low on stock like food and water as the trucks are unable to get up because of roads that are flooded and closed.  I went shopping today and there were many shelves empty. 
I just want this weather to ease up a bit though.  It has been 45 degrees celicus during the day here and around 35 degrees celicus at night. 
i feel sorry for anyone working in a Manuel job outside...so where you live in in a remote area?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 30, 2013, 05:02:34 AM
i feel sorry for anyone working in a Manuel job outside...so where you live in in a remote area?
Yeah I don't know how some do it.  I know someone who was mowing lawns and threw their job in because of the heat.  I live on the coast in a town half way between Cairns and Brisbane.  It's not in a remote area. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 06:22:27 AM
Yeah I don't know how some do it.  I know someone who was mowing lawns and threw their job in because of the heat.  I live on the coast in a town half way between Cairns and Brisbane.  It's not in a remote area. 
well itīs a bit warmer here today.. so later i will go for a 1 hour walk and stretch off my legs. I will rest today and hit legs tomorrow.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 06:32:11 AM
Yes good to have you join us Alex.  I am getting lots of good ideas here also. 

So today I trained delts and did cardio indoors as it's still too hot outside to walk.

Delts.

Db shoulder presses x 4 sets
Upright rowes x 4 sets
db lateral raises x 3 sets

30 mins cardio consisting of 15 mins treadmill and 15 mins bike
good training karen,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 10:39:07 AM
well my training tonight never happend...wife phoned me up to tell me she had a small car crash and was going to Hospital for a check up. Lucky she is ok was a little bit under shock but ok. guy in the other car has a bit of whip lash in the neck. well my car is a bit damaged but nothing serious...who cares anyway.. shit happens..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 10:42:09 AM
well my training tonight never happend...wife phoned me up to tell me she had a small car crash and was going to Hospital for a check up. Lucky she is ok was a little bit under shock but ok. guy in the other car has a bit of whip lash in the neck. well my car is a bit damaged but nothing serious...who cares anyway.. shit happens..
SUCKS,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 30, 2013, 10:45:23 AM
SUCKS,,,
yeah...lucky no one was badly hurt...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 30, 2013, 11:51:08 AM
Back.

5 sets x10 palm fwd chins
5 sets x10 vbar chins
3 sets x12-8 one arm db row (1/2 pyramid)
3 sets x12-8 BB row undergrip (1/2 pyramid)

30 mins recumbent bike steady state cardio (reading GB via iPad & listening to Joe Rogan Experience #319)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 11:58:19 AM
Back.

5 sets x10 palm fwd chins
5 sets x10 vbar chins
3 sets x12-8 one arm db row (1/2 pyramid)
3 sets x12-8 BB row undergrip (1/2 pyramid)

30 mins recumbent bike steady state cardio (reading GB via iPad & listening to Joe Rogan Experience #319)
NICE,,I HAVE BACK/BI TONITE,,,WHAT KIND OF WEIGHT YOU MOVING IN DB ROW.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 30, 2013, 12:07:56 PM
NICE,,I HAVE BACK/BI TONITE,,,WHAT KIND OF WEIGHT YOU MOVING IN DB ROW.

100-125lb db
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 12:49:36 PM
100-125lb db
AWESOME,,,I USUALLY FINISH WITH THOSE TOO 2 SETS 10 100LBERS I MIGHT TRY 110'S SEE WHAT I HAVE IN THE TANK...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on January 30, 2013, 01:16:17 PM
yeah...lucky no one was badly hurt...

That's the most important thing, that no one was badly hurt. I like your attitude, some folks get all stressed out over these kinds of things which eventually happen to almost everyone.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 30, 2013, 04:10:47 PM
yeah...lucky no one was badly hurt...
Glad no one was hurt Donny.  Cars can be replaced, people can't. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 30, 2013, 04:22:08 PM
well my training tonight never happend...wife phoned me up to tell me she had a small car crash and was going to Hospital for a check up. Lucky she is ok was a little bit under shock but ok. guy in the other car has a bit of whip lash in the neck. well my car is a bit damaged but nothing serious...who cares anyway.. shit happens..

Glad it wasn't any worse
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 30, 2013, 07:37:39 PM
great tri galineko,,,

did a change up for back 2 nite supersets trisets
chins x2 x10 with cable low row x2 x10 used 195/210 on the stack and 2x standup tbar row 2plates/2.5 plates 6 sets total...
hammer reverse pulldown x2 x10 2 plates per side then 1 w/extra 10lbs ,,db row 90's x10 x2,,cable rope pull high for upper back x2x10,,6 sets
finished with reverse single arm cable low pull to waist standing slight bend to waist stretch and pull x3...
 weighted hypers

bi's
premade curl camber bar 90/100/110  reps 12/10/10
db curls 40,40,45  6 reps full and six start point to mid portion
close grip curl with reg 45 lb bar..

abs



Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 02:38:37 AM
Thank you for the kind words everyone...so today i will hit legs...
warm up and Abs:
hanging knee raises 3x20-30
double crunch 2x30-50

Leg extension 3x15 with
leg curls         3x15

Tri-set
Barbell squats 3x10
Barbell hack squats 3x10
Barbell Fronts 3x10
This tri set really taxes you and i do not ever use a heel raise but rely on my ankle flexibility. I do the leg Extensions first superset with leg curls to get my legs warmed up. I will after this do 4x15 calf raises (standing) 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 04:49:54 AM
great tri galineko,,,

did a change up for back 2 nite supersets trisets
chins x2 x10 with cable low row x2 x10 used 195/210 on the stack and 2x standup tbar row 2plates/2.5 plates 6 sets total...
hammer reverse pulldown x2 x10 2 plates per side then 1 w/extra 10lbs ,,db row 90's x10 x2,,cable rope pull high for upper back x2x10,,6 sets
finished with reverse single arm cable low pull to waist standing slight bend to waist stretch and pull x3...
 weighted hypers

bi's
premade curl camber bar 90/100/110  reps 12/10/10
db curls 40,40,45  6 reps full and six start point to mid portion
close grip curl with reg 45 lb bar..

abs




NICE, always good to change it now and again...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 05:04:39 AM
NICE, always good to change it now and again...
yeah i see your super/triset workouts so i got it driving in TO SWITCH IT UP....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 06:36:21 AM
yeah i see your super/triset workouts so i got it driving in TO SWITCH IT UP....
yeah shake it up Baby  ;D some great workouts appearing on the thread.. always great to read them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 06:42:27 AM
yeah shake it up Baby  ;D some great workouts appearing on the thread.. always great to read them.
YEAH BOOTY,MYSELF,AVBG,U,,,SOME GOOD WORKOUTS ,INFO,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 10:38:31 AM
well my legs are tired so i will rest and not go running and itīs raining hard outside(getting soft in my old age) watch a good film and drink a Bannana milk shake...love it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 31, 2013, 12:13:52 PM
Delts

4 sets (descending/strip sets) x 20-6 reps
4 sets BB military press x 8 reps
4 sets upright rows 135lb (shoulder width grip) supersetted with rear delt raises 30lb reps to failure

3 sets crunches x 25 reps

30 mins recumbent bike steady state whilst reading/viewing vids http://www.mmaroasted.com/ on the iPad
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 12:27:30 PM
Delts

4 sets (descending/strip sets) x 20-6 reps
4 sets BB military press x 8 reps
4 sets upright rows 135lb (shoulder width grip) supersetted with rear delt raises 30lb reps to failure

3 sets crunches x 25 reps

30 mins recumbent bike steady state whilst reading/viewing vids http://www.mmaroasted.com/ on the iPad

NICE,,,,MY AB WORKOUT TOO...ALSO THROW IN LEG RAISES ON THE ROMAN CHAIR LAST NITE,,,DELTS NICE TOO
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on January 31, 2013, 12:29:05 PM
NICE,,,,MY AB WORKOUT TOO...ALSO THROW IN LEG RAISES ON THE ROMAN CHAIR LAST NITE,,,DELTS NICE TOO

You can never have too much (legit) side or rear delt!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on January 31, 2013, 12:41:03 PM
Delts

4 sets (descending/strip sets) x 20-6 reps
4 sets BB military press x 8 reps
4 sets upright rows 135lb (shoulder width grip) supersetted with rear delt raises 30lb reps to failure

3 sets crunches x 25 reps

30 mins recumbent bike steady state whilst reading/viewing vids http://www.mmaroasted.com/ on the iPad

nice work....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 31, 2013, 04:08:26 PM
I didn't train yesterday either.  I felt really dizzy and dipsy (no jokes) all day so I didn't hit the gym.  Managed to piss off two friends because of it though.  My friend the other day wanted to train with me but I didn't want to train when she wanted to and my other friend tried to talk me into going to gym at peak time when I was feeling dizzy.  I told her I was staying home to make tomatoe and lentil soup instead.
Anyway it's a bit cooler here as from yesterday.  There is a bit of a breeze so I will start walking again outdoors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 08:02:34 PM
I didn't train yesterday either.  I felt really dizzy and dipsy (no jokes) all day so I didn't hit the gym.  Managed to piss off two friends because of it though.  My friend the other day wanted to train with me but I didn't want to train when she wanted to and my other friend tried to talk me into going to gym at peak time when I was feeling dizzy.  I told her I was staying home to make tomatoe and lentil soup instead.
Anyway it's a bit cooler here as from yesterday.  There is a bit of a breeze so I will start walking again outdoors.
feel better and regroup next day get great workout,,,,

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on January 31, 2013, 08:06:25 PM
supplements any one use and what?i do protein powder shake or greek yogurt mixed with whey and after training whey w/cheerios or rice chex or some whey with low fat choc icecream 8)...i do multi/creatine pre train only on train days and recently added glycerine powder jury still out get good vascularity pump which i get anyway can't tell if it more tho,,feel little fuller after training pump/look wise use this only on train days..thats it,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on January 31, 2013, 10:00:12 PM
feel better and regroup next day get great workout,,,,


Yes I think so too, I don't want to have a crappy train.  Today it's boiling hot again, the cooler breeze we had yesterday has been replaced by an intense heat.  I ate something that has seen me in the toilet all day.  I had pancakes for breakfast but because I have been eating so clean, it has gone through me. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 03:02:42 AM
feel better and regroup next day get great workout,,,,


great advice from nJ...if i feel tired i am not afraid to wait another day and then have a good workout when i am refreshed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 03:20:35 AM
so Today i will do a Triset for shoulders and supersets for my arms:
Warm up as normal 10 mins jumping rope.
Double crunches 2x30-50
TRISET:
clean and press(from waist height) 4x10
side laterals 4x12
rear delt raises 4x12

ez bar pullover and press 3x10 with
Barbell curls 3x10
Incline tricep ez bar extensions 3x10 with
Incline DB curls3x10

EZ Bar preacher reverse curls 3x10+ With
Barbell wrist curls 3x10+
I will finish off hanging from my chin bar using a thumbless grip for as long as i can. I decided to hit triceps first today in my supersets as i normally hit biceps first.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 01, 2013, 05:47:54 AM
great advice from nJ...if i feel tired i am not afraid to wait another day and then have a good workout when i am refreshed.
Yes better to listen to your body.  Sometimes I will push myself to train even if I don't feel like it because it's consistancy that gets results.  I will train legs tomorrow and will be fresh and ready to squat till I drop.  I like how it rhymes.   ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 07:48:45 AM
starting to get sick of the weather here...itīs raining hard again. I will go out though and get my cardio in..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 01, 2013, 11:00:12 AM
starting to get sick of the weather here...itīs raining hard again. I will go out though and get my cardio in..

It is dry and warmer here for a rare change. This weather is supposed to last through Super Bowl weekend. I have a couple of hundred bulbs to get in the ground for some spring color. Planting these should keep me busy today. I should have planted them months ago, but I didn't. I am not big on working in the garden when it is raining cats and dogs.

I have an all day meeting tomorrow in Salem, OR. Just as I get one thing wound up another pops up. I guess this is better than not having anything to do.

The cooling fan control module on my car has gone tits up. My mechanic has ordered the part which he will install on Monday. Although this will run about $250, it is less than a car payment would be on a new car. My car is now 9 years old. It has 100K miles which is nothing really these days. I guess it is worth maintaining what I have although some of the new cars are really exciting, have more features and get better gas mileage. I took my wife's car in for an oil change yesterday. Her car is 15 years old. She has barely 60K miles on it and it runs like a top. Clearly she doesn't drive that much. Fortunately, she is happy with what she has. This may be one of the reasons I love her, she is so easy to please.

I can't talk about the gym because I am still avoiding it for some reason.

Someone on Getbig recommended Costco brand Salmon patties, which I bought and they are excellent. Last night I made salmon burgers. We had fresh baked hamburger buns from a local bakery, which we toasted. My wife put together a wonderful aioli sauce while I grilled some zucchini and the salmon patties. We assembled the salmon burgers by spreading a layer of aioli sauce on the buns, added the grilled zucchini, the salmon patties and some sliced tomatoes, topping everything with the other half of the bun. It was a pretty messy sandwich to eat, but it was fabulous.

Aioli sauce is made using 1/2 cup mayonnaise, some lemon juice, lemon zest, garlic, chives, salt and pepper. My wife added capers to make it even more tasty. It is good on many things including french fries.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 11:13:17 AM
prime i got to take my car to the Garage...lucky i am fully covered by my Insurance. I really got to visit you man...you got it good with all that great food ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 01, 2013, 12:27:17 PM
Legs

30 min recumbent bike steady state cardio/warm up.

4 sets unilateral leg extension 20-6reps weight 1/2 pyramid
4 sets lying hamstring x 10 reps @ 100lbs super slow negatives
5 sets barbell squat 25-5 reps 135-365lbs 1/2 pyramid
5 sets Romanian deadlift 135-315lbs 1/2 pyramid

No calf training as they're big mofos  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 12:52:46 PM
Wow....they are Great calfes ... :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2013, 02:17:37 PM
avbg sick calves ,,,i thought i had decent ones...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 01, 2013, 02:22:01 PM
Thanks fellas.. njflex you got cows bro  8)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2013, 02:24:01 PM
thurs delt day did a tri set day time and just good pump workout

set 1 group dbpress then side laterals and bent over rear delt laterals... x3 each... 10 reps per movement
set 2 group cable upright row then fr raise with straight bar finish with shrugs x3 each... same reps range 10

forearms rope roll's and reverse wrist curl cable

calves leg press toe press extensions...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2013, 02:26:01 PM
Thanks fellas.. njflex you got cows bro  8)
thanx still digging ur's tho 8),,,diamond and nice ridge at bottom cut,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 01, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
You Both have Great calfes ....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 01, 2013, 03:34:28 PM
You Both have Great calfes ....
donny ever so the moderator,,, ;D,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 02:17:25 AM
thurs delt day did a tri set day time and just good pump workout

set 1 group dbpress then side laterals and bent over rear delt laterals... x3 each... 10 reps per movement
set 2 group cable upright row then fr raise with straight bar finish with shrugs x3 each... same reps range 10

forearms rope roll's and reverse wrist curl cable

calves leg press toe press extensions...
a nice fast compact workout njflex...tri-sets are perfect for the shoulders. I do not think you need to hammer the shoulders with massive weights, they get a good workout with dips and other exercises. laterals i like to hit on average about 12 reps and really work the delts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 04:59:59 AM
a nice fast compact workout njflex...tri-sets are perfect for the shoulders. I do not think you need to hammer the shoulders with massive weights, they get a good workout with dips and other exercises. laterals i like to hit on average about 12 reps and really work the delts.
u right donny with delts did the whole rest try to go heavy delt thing ,,fast sets hi reps work for me better i think,,took me yrs to figutr into this ,still do regular heavy type day every few traing cycles,still all in all on my sets of db presses i did 60lbers followed by 30 lb laterals and 25's for bent laterals all for 10 so that's not exactly weak as most would feel or deem with supersetting/trisets u lose strenght...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 05:30:07 AM
u right donny with delts did the whole rest try to go heavy delt thing ,,fast sets hi reps work for me better i think,,took me yrs to figutr into this ,still do regular heavy type day every few traing cycles,still all in all on my sets of db presses i did 60lbers followed by 30 lb laterals and 25's for bent laterals all for 10 so that's not exactly weak as most would feel or deem with supersetting/trisets u lose strenght...
yes Brother nj... :) last night i got piss wet through...still i got a run in. Today is sunny and i might get my bike out and cycle to a friend. kill 2 birds with one stone...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 05:35:16 AM
yes Brother nj... :) last night i got piss wet through...still i got a run in. Today is sunny and i might get my bike out and cycle to a friend. kill 2 birds with one stone...
today is leg day,,,enjoying cup of black italian roast cofee 1 splenda,eggbeaters with red/yell/green/peppers with potatoes and low fat shredded cheese and 2 slices whole grain with flax and oats bread with natural peanut butter,,,i'm kinda in breakfast heaven  :D.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 05:42:27 AM
today is leg day,,,enjoying cup of black italian roast cofee 1 splenda,eggbeaters with red/yell/green/peppers with potatoes and low fat shredded cheese and 2 slices whole grain with flax and oats bread with natural peanut butter,,,i'm kinda in breakfast heaven  :D.
sounds great.. your diet and discipline amaze me..great physique and you are always very polite and act like a Gentleman.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 05:55:46 AM
sounds great.. your diet and discipline amaze me..great physique and you are always very polite and act like a Gentleman.
thanks man just trying to contribute,little insight into my daily life plan in regard to fitness/training,you really box urself in if u say you'bodybuild'cause stage bodybuilding is temporary stage look that unless your teenager and could eat whatever u want and have abs is not feasible,to maintain 8-10 bodyfat yr round and not compete but have build above and beyond the normal person/normal trained person takes discipline,commitment,design,plan that is carried out not 24/7 cause that's limiting life but enough structure to maintain your achieved goal,,,have to drink wine  8),,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 08:03:58 AM
thanks man just trying to contribute,little insight into my daily life plan in regard to fitness/training,you really box urself in if u say you'bodybuild'cause stage bodybuilding is temporary stage look that unless your teenager and could eat whatever u want and have abs is not feasible,to maintain 8-10 bodyfat yr round and not compete but have build above and beyond the normal person/normal trained person takes discipline,commitment,design,plan that is carried out not 24/7 cause that's limiting life but enough structure to maintain your achieved goal,,,have to drink wine  8),,,,
a little bit of Wine is OK ... ;D ENJOY
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 02, 2013, 09:01:33 AM
a nice fast compact workout njflex...tri-sets are perfect for the shoulders. I do not think you need to hammer the shoulders with massive weights, they get a good workout with dips and other exercises. laterals i like to hit on average about 12 reps and really work the delts.
X2!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 10:48:31 AM
How are you Willie?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 02, 2013, 11:39:12 AM
"I just can't get out of the gym workout"

Abs/traps/rear delts

4 sets incline crunches x20 reps
4 sets leg raises x20 reps

4 sets BB shrugs 135-225lb 1/2 pyramid (16-8 reps)
4 sets BB upright rows (narrow grip) 135lbs x10 reps

4 sets db rear delt raises 32lb x10 reps

30mins recumbent bike steady state cardio (listening to Joe Rogan's Shiny Happy Jihad)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 03:18:20 PM
leg day and i rolled out a tough one today partner is going skiing tommorrow he 's high after this workout it was tough,,,
extensions the stack goes to 295 we did 4 sets 12 reps and hit 270 final set
leg press we worked 'hi reps to low' started 5 platesx15,6 platesx12,6.5 plates x10,7 x8
did hack squat opposite' low reps to hi' this was brutal,,5.5 plates x10,4.5 x12,3.5 x15,2.5 x20
walking dumbell lunges 15 steps per leg 50 lb's dumbell's

hams
stiff legged deadlifts 135 x12,185x10.235 x10.255 x10

calves
leg press 3 plates x15,3.5 x12,4 plates x12
standing calf raise toes pointed in 3x12
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 03:46:07 PM
Nj...that is pure intensity.....I hate writing from my phone ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 03:48:03 PM
Nj...that is pure intensity.....I hate writing from my phone ...
lol,,,,donny it was painful the pump ,,the weights/reps used was crazy,, i mean people max out for 6/8 reps what i did for 20 on the last set after moving the big weight sets 1st,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 02, 2013, 03:53:48 PM
You  are a very intense trainer nj...motivates me to read you and  AVBG 's workouts...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 02, 2013, 03:56:36 PM
You  are a very intense trainer nj...motivates me to read you and  AVBG 's workouts...
thanxs donny,,,really,,,saw my old diet guru who dieted me for show's he compete's as a pro master's class looks great for 50 plus,,,he was there and shook his head that i'm still doing this shit 'clean no less 'weight/intensity,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 02, 2013, 04:32:52 PM
Thanks D! As I said before, I get plenty of motivation and ideas from seeing what you guys do!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 02:10:02 AM
Tonight i will go for short but fast run and i will do some Ab training. Last night when i was out it snowed a bit..nothing that bothers me. However the paths are clear. As i run i think about things and i will plan my Monday workout in my head. my Abs will be hit when i am finished running as i feel the exercises better because my waist and lower back have been used quite hard to stabilize my torso when running..the direct Ab training is just the icing on the cake.. ;D..the best Abs in the world like Frank Zane,serge nubret,bill pearl(great waist for a big guy) were built with high reps. i have never enjoyed weighted Ab training, using my mind to work the muscles rather than external poundages...actually great teqniques for Abs are Isotension,Peak contraction...even Giant sets work great for Abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 02:20:01 AM
A book i got some years ago but it gave me some great ideas...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 07:21:44 AM
anyone know if Karen is still with us??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 03, 2013, 08:53:16 AM
usually sun off have dinner mon so chest /tri done ..

incl db warmup 50's,,then 60 x12,70x10,80x8
hammer flat press 2 plates x10.2 plates and 10 x10,2 sets 2plates and 25 per x8-10
flat dumbell with a twist ,,,turn palms to face each other at top end of movement,,,60x10,70x8,75x8
cable crossovers x3 12 rep sets
finished smith gironda bench to neck x2 x12 reps

tris
pushdowns x3 all 10-12 rep sets
tri dip machine x3 10-12
overhead extensions using v bar x3 10-12
kickbacks holding ball on cable x3 12 rep sets

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 11:28:59 AM
I am scared to Do gironda press to neck because of my shoulder...Great  workout nj Bro
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 11:32:50 AM
Tomorrow i will blast my chest ...High intensity ...  ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 03, 2013, 12:05:07 PM
Delts

3 sets reverse lateral raises (starting position arms above head, wrists supinated {Sergio myth pose} end position arms open {crucifix pose}) 5lbs db x 15 reps

4 sets lateral raise (1/2 pyramid) 15-40lb x 15-8 reps

4 sets seated db press 50lbs x 12 reps

4 sets military press 185lbs x 8 reps

30 min cardio - 15 min recumbent bike steady state/ 15 min HIT recumbent bike 1 min full pace: 1 min coast
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 12:19:18 PM
how do you find these AVBG, have you had good results?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 03, 2013, 12:26:35 PM
how do you find these AVBG, have you had good results?


That's the fuckers! I was taught that exercise as a pre-exhaust movement by Justin Wessels (Australia's best ever amateur - unbeaten on Aussie shores and perennial NABBA UNIVERSE top 5 finalist) .. I like the continuous tension aspect of the exercise, happy with the results thus far)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 03, 2013, 12:36:43 PM
Great picture Alex... :) itīs 21.35 here in germany..man iīm going to hit chest tomorrow ! Itīs Sunday night here now.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 03, 2013, 09:49:42 PM
I am having issues with my laptop guys. It won't load and is stuck at please wait so am using my iPhone. Trained bis and tris today and will go for a brisk walk in a little bit once the sun is lower in the sky.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 02:12:11 AM
I am having issues with my laptop guys. It won't load and is stuck at please wait so am using my iPhone. Trained bis and tris today and will go for a brisk walk in a little bit once the sun is lower in the sky.
Good too see you back.. ;) yeah i hate writing from my phone but i do when iīm out and about..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 02:24:51 AM
so today is Chest:
warm up jump rope
Abs: Incline sit ups 3x20-30
Incline knee raises  3x20-30

Pre-Exhaust supersets:
flat db flys 3x10 with
Flat DB Press 3x10
Incline DB flys 3x10
incline DB press 3x10
2x max push ups 1 set close hand and 1x set wide hand (if i have the strength because this will work me hard)
later on tonight i will due to heavy rain go to the local swimming baths and do some lengths. My Breast stroke is very good.. :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 04:49:27 AM
that workout killed me...i do not see how anyone can do more sets than this of intense pre-exhaust..well i canīt and i will be honest i struggled on the push ups doing only 1 set even though i took the triceps out the equation with pre exhaust so even though i had strength in my triceps my chest was thoroughly worked  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 05:24:32 AM
so today is Chest:
warm up jump rope
Abs: Incline sit ups 3x20-30
Incline knee raises  3x20-30

Pre-Exhaust supersets:
flat db flys 3x10 with
Flat DB Press 3x10
Incline DB flys 3x10
incline DB press 3x10
2x max push ups 1 set close hand and 1x set wide hand (if i have the strength because this will work me hard)
later on tonight i will due to heavy rain go to the local swimming baths and do some lengths. My Breast stroke is very good.. :D
NICE,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 05:25:35 AM
Thank you Brother in Iron.... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 05:33:06 AM
Thank you Brother in Iron.... :)
I'M A BIT SORE TODAY FROM MY CHEST AND TRI WORKOUT ,,MY LEGS FROM SAT 2 DAYS NOW ARE STILL PUMPED AND SORE AS HELL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 05:38:15 AM
I'M A BIT SORE TODAY FROM MY CHEST AND TRI WORKOUT ,,MY LEGS FROM SAT 2 DAYS NOW ARE STILL PUMPED AND SORE AS HELL...
not surprising after what you did nj..i would be sore for at least 4 days... this is why i canīt understand how some people say they train legs or chest/back HARD 2x a week... i canīt do it not with such a workout as say you did..no way. Not saying 2x a week is wrong but i could not do it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 05:45:43 AM
not surprising after what you did nj..i would be sore for at least 4 days... this is why i canīt understand how some people say they train legs or chest/back HARD 2x a week... i canīt do it not with such a workout as say you did..no way. Not saying 2x a week is wrong but i could not do it.
I AGREE 100PCT,,,DON'T KNOW ,,UNLESS YOU DO THE WHOLE BODY 2X BREAK IT UP 2 EXERCISES EACH PART SAY DAY ONE CHEST,DELTS,BACK,ABS,  DAY 2 LEGS,BI.TRI ABS,THEN DO CYCLE END OF WEEK AGAIN DIFFERENT EXECISE THO,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 06:43:51 AM
I find i can concentrate on one muscle group better and do say abs and or calfes with a large muscle group. The volume i do is by no means as heavy as yours or Alex but i get results with the "overlap" effect i get because you can never isolate a musle group 100%.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 06:50:36 AM
I find i can concentrate on one muscle group better and do say abs and or calfes with a large muscle group. The volume i do is by no means as heavy as yours or Alex but i get results with the "overlap" effect i get because you can never isolate a musle group 100%.
GUESS I WAS GETTING AT TOTAL BODY WORKOUT BROKEN DOWN WITH FEW SESSIONS ,,,THEN U COULD DO EVERY THING 2X PER WK...NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE IF UR CLEAN/NATURAL/DRUGFREE/OVER CERTAIN AGE ANYTHING MORE THAN 4X PER WK OR TRAINING DAYS IN A ROW ARE VERY TOUGH TO RECOVER FROM ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 06:57:45 AM
GUESS I WAS GETTING AT TOTAL BODY WORKOUT BROKEN DOWN WITH FEW SESSIONS ,,,THEN U COULD DO EVERY THING 2X PER WK...NOT TO BEAT A DEAD HORSE IF UR CLEAN/NATURAL/DRUGFREE/OVER CERTAIN AGE ANYTHING MORE THAN 4X PER WK OR TRAINING DAYS IN A ROW ARE VERY TOUGH TO RECOVER FROM ...
yes i agree... old guys like me need more recovery plus i do a fair amount of cardio so that is also a point.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 07:37:55 AM
yes i agree... old guys like me need more recovery plus i do a fair amount of cardio so that is also a point.
OLD?U MEAN SEASONED OR MATURED,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 08:28:02 AM
OLD?U MEAN SEASONED OR MATURED,,,
yes sorry... slip of the tongue...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 08:46:56 AM
UR NOT SO OLD YET WHERE WE SAW U IN HALF AND COUNT THE RINGS YET,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 09:00:04 AM
UR NOT SO OLD YET WHERE WE SAW U IN HALF AND COUNT THE RINGS YET,,,,
yeah...lol i feel ok for 46... been blessed with a young(ish) face but slightly balding.. donīt bother i just shave it. Take it like a Mature man... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2013, 12:12:44 PM
Arms

4 (super)sets db incline curls/overhead db tricep extensions (1/2 pyramid) 20-55lb

4 (super)sets ez bar curls/vbar dips 10 reps:failure

3 (super)sets db hammer curls/close grip bench press 45lbs:225lbs

Cardio
15 mins HIT cardio jump rope

Was listening to Joe Rogan Experience Podcast # 302 (Josh Barnett, Brian Redban 12/22/2012)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2013, 12:16:21 PM
UR NOT SO OLD YET WHERE WE SAW U IN HALF AND COUNT THE RINGS YET,,,,

The fact that we're getting up everyday and getting shit done ie working, family, relationships & working out speaks volumes - no excuses and no bullshit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 12:25:10 PM
The fact that we're getting up everyday and getting shit done ie working, family, relationships & working out speaks volumes - no excuses and no bullshit.
Exactly. Mature men who have a bit of life behind us and have responsibilities. we still train hard and donīt complain..MEN of iRON.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 12:30:43 PM
Arms

4 (super)sets db incline curls/overhead db tricep extensions (1/2 pyramid) 20-55lb

4 (super)sets ez bar curls/vbar dips 10 reps:failure

3 (super)sets db hammer curls/close grip bench press 45lbs:225lbs

Cardio
15 mins HIT cardio jump rope

Was listening to Joe Rogan Experience Podcast # 302 (Josh Barnett, Brian Redban 12/22/2012)
outstanding workout that Bill Grant would applaud.. he loved supersets for arms. I wrote with him on facebook.. another Bodybuilder i like.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2013, 12:54:22 PM
Thanks D. I find that if I don't do super sets for arms then I'd be in the gym way too long.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 04, 2013, 01:01:56 PM
The fact that we're getting up everyday and getting shit done ie working, family, relationships & working out speaks volumes - no excuses and no bullshit.
TRUTH,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 01:05:34 PM
Thanks D. I find that if I don't do super sets for arms then I'd be in the gym way too long.
yes and it is the best way in my opinion. I do however swap it up..i start with triceps or i start a superset with biceps... depends how i feel.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 01:07:29 PM
TRUTH,,,,
yes nj... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 04, 2013, 05:51:19 PM
Good too see you back.. ;) yeah i hate writing from my phone but i do when iīm out and about..
I am still here just going to be posting from my iPhone until I get my laptop sorted. I did post up my workout yesterday but it didn't go through. I supersetted my bis and tris and did 90 mins of brisk walking outdoors.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 04, 2013, 05:56:27 PM
I am still here just going to be posting from my iPhone until I get my laptop sorted. I did post up my workout yesterday but it didn't go through. I supersetted my bis and tris and did 90 mins of brisk walking outdoors.
see we miss you Karen...nice workout ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 04, 2013, 06:08:47 PM
Chin up Booty! Tough times don't last!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 04, 2013, 06:59:00 PM
Thanks, it's nice to be missed. Thank god for my iPhone, I love it as its reliable and works better than my toshiba laptop. Next time I think I will get a mac
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 04, 2013, 11:24:43 PM
They say it comes in threes. I saw the doctor today with both my children. My son has an infection in his arm because he wasn't cleaned and stitched properly when he came off his dirt motorbike two weeks ago and went to the hospital. The gravel wasn't all removed. That's how messed up our public hospitals are here. My daughter has phemonia and is to have bed rest for the remainder of the week. I saw the doc about my jaw and I have tmj syndrome in my jaw. :-(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 04, 2013, 11:54:07 PM
I am still here just going to be posting from my iPhone until I get my laptop sorted. I did post up my workout yesterday but it didn't go through. I supersetted my bis and tris and did 90 mins of brisk walking outdoors.

If you are using Windows operating system, have you tried starting your computer in "safe mode" and then resetting it to an earlier time when It loaded without any problem? If you don't know how to do this, let me know and I will walk you through it if I can. Anyway, it is worth giving this a try before you hire a repair at probably about $100 an hour.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2013, 12:12:37 AM
yes i agree... old guys like me need more recovery plus i do a fair amount of cardio so that is also a point.

I think it is OK to refer to oneself as being old. Some days lately, I feel very old and I am only 68 years young. I wonder what I will feel like at 80 years of age.

I am with you on recovery, I have found that the older I get the more time my body seems to like for recovery after a workout. The good news is that once recovered, my body seems ready to go again. When last I worked out, I was working essentially one muscle group a day. I divided leg workouts to quads and calves and later in the week hams and calves. I like to hit each muscle a few different ways in each workout. For quads I really like doing reverse hack squats. After doing them for awhile, I noticed several other folks doing them too. I think I started a trend. I haven't done squats for a couple of years now, preferring to do leg presses instead. I worry about my knees and my back even though I have never hurt them doing squats.

Cardio can be very boring for me. Living in a rainy climate, I tend to do cardio indoors much of the time. This rather limits the array of activities to the more boring ones: such as, stationary bike rides, stair steppers to nowhere, treadmills which leave you right were you started, with a slightly elevated heart rate, etc. Years ago, I was more ambitious about riding my bicycle and getting soaked while doing it or running on the sidewalks and in the streets, (wrenched my knees couple of times doing this by stepping wrong off a curb). I walk my dogs off leash late at night when no one is out. They move at a pretty good pace. Sadly, I have found myself out of breath just keeping up with them while walking up our hill. These are times when I wish I walked on four legs like they do. They seem to manage the hills with ease.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2013, 12:28:39 AM
They say it comes in threes. I saw the doctor today with both my children. My son has an infection in his arm because he wasn't cleaned and stitched properly when he came off his dirt motorbike two weeks ago and went to the hospital. The gravel wasn't all removed. That's how messed up our public hospitals are here. My daughter has phemonia and is to have bed rest for the remainder of the week. I saw the doc about my jaw and I have tmj syndrome in my jaw. :-(

Karen,

Here you are with TMJ and a bum nose....you're broken girl! Just kidding. Be careful that you don't over focus on these things. My daughter who is 37 years old has so many ailments that sometimes she seems like a hypochondriac although her illnesses/conditions are all legitimate.

Pneumonia is nothing to mess with. once you have it you are more susceptible to getting it again. I didn't get many childhood diseases, but I first had pneumonia when I was 4 years old. Throughout my childhood years and well into adulthood, I suffered from bronchial pneumonia many times. I know now that at the first sign of a cold, I go to the doctor for antibiotics. If I don't I end up with pneumonia and coughing for 3 or 4 months. On the plus side, all that coughing does tighten ones abs somewhat.

Even though I have been on Medicare for the last three years, I buy supplemental medical insurance to insure I have good coverage in the event of medical necessities. Aside from medical insurance premiums, all I paid for the prostatectomy was $300 for the two days in the hospital. The procedure cost nearly $30,000. Had I had to pay that, it would have seriously impacted my savings account. I hope as the U.S. moves forward with the affordable healthcare act, medical care will not suffer. I hear horror stories about government healthcare plans such as they have in Canada and England. On the other hand, Germany has excellent health care.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2013, 12:34:24 AM
Thanks, it's nice to be missed. Thank god for my iPhone, I love it as its reliable and works better than my toshiba laptop. Next time I think I will get a mac

A good friend of mine who is definitely not very computer savvy, recently purchased an Apple desktop computer. He loves it! He was always running into difficulties with his PC which, frankly, was very old and tired. The real problem though is that PC's and Windows based laptops require tinkering to operate optimally. Apple products are computer dummy friendly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 05, 2013, 01:05:54 AM
My nose isn't bum it's just swollen which is normal this far out from surgery. I love how it looks and the fact that I haven't had any infections so it is functioning really well. My jaw I strained in the gym when I was training legs a couple of weeks ago. It still hurts but at least it's getting easier to eat. I had to eat soft foods the first week and eat really slowly.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 03:25:40 AM
I have a little Toshiba and it works well..my son had a Medion i do not think its a make name over in the US or where you are Karen in Germany its well known. He had trouble with it...and i had to send it away twice to get it fixed(was under guarantee) had to argue with the firm too... :(
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 03:42:21 AM
so Back today.. my chest is sore today, push my finger tips on my upper chest and i feel it so i did what i wanted yesterday. so::
as always jump rope and abs:
Sternum chin ups holding the peak contraction 3x max
Supersets:
Dumbbell pull overs 3x15 with
Barbell rows 3x10

Barbell pull overs 3x15 with
One arm Dumbbell rows 3x 10
Deadlifts 4x10
last ex to finish off my traps Dumbbell shrugs 3x10-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2013, 09:47:33 AM
Nice work D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 09:49:52 AM
Nice work D
Thanks Alex...i always train very fast.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 10:46:26 AM
COOL STUFF GUYS...BACK 2 NITE POST IT LATER,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2013, 11:40:15 AM
Squats!

30 min steady state cardio - recumbent bike

7 sets BB SQUATS 135-405lb (1/2 pyramid) x 25-6 reps

3 sets BB HACK SQUATS 135lb x 15 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 11:43:01 AM
Squats!

30 min steady state cardio - recumbent bike

7 sets BB SQUATS 135-405lb (1/2 pyramid) x 25-6 reps

3 sets BB HACK SQUATS 135lb x 15 reps
QUADS ALONE ALEX?NICE SQUAT THATS MY HEAVIEST SET TOO SAME REPS MAYBE 8 ON GOOD DAY IF I'M FUELED ,,USUALLY SIX,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 11:56:36 AM
QUADS ALONE ALEX?NICE SQUAT THATS MY HEAVIEST SET TOO SAME REPS MAYBE 8 ON GOOD DAY IF I'M FUELED ,,USUALLY SIX,,,
would kill me but i like the simple concept. 7 sets squats and i bet the hacks were killers.. :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 12:05:12 PM
would kill me but i like the simple concept. 7 sets squats and i bet the hacks were killers.. :o
SEE IM NUTS FROM THE SQUATS TO HACKS I WOULD STILL DO 3/4 45'S PER SIDE
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 05, 2013, 12:13:54 PM
SEE IM NUTS FROM THE SQUATS TO HACKS I WOULD STILL DO 3/4 45'S PER SIDE
respect men..i canīt lift so much as you guys WITH that intensity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2013, 12:32:42 PM
QUADS ALONE ALEX?NICE SQUAT THATS MY HEAVIEST SET TOO SAME REPS MAYBE 8 ON GOOD DAY IF I'M FUELED ,,USUALLY SIX,,,

Quads alone mate.. This is another "can't get out of the gym" workout ie focusing on weak links (train those body parts twice- medial and rear delts/traps in seven days).. If feel spent/tired then I would take the two days off.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 12:38:39 PM
respect men..i canīt lift so much as you guys WITH that intensity.
FOU FOR THE THE PAST FEW MONTHS I HAVE BEEN HAVING MORE RECOVERY BETWEEN INTENSE LEGS SESSIONS ,FEEL IT IN HIPS/LOWER BACK.PELVIC AREA FOR FEW DAYS AND I WAS HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH HEMMROIDS LOL,,,SORRY TO DIVULGE BUT THEY WERE AFFECTING MY TRAINING ON LEG DAY DUE TO SQUEEZING/HEAVY WEIGHTS I DO,,STARTED TREATING THEM ON OWN I NEVER USED PREPERATION H IN MY LIFE SO IT STARTED BEING MY FRIEND FOR A WHILE LOL,,,GOING TO BATHROOM WAS A SMALL CHORE TOO ,,MOSTLY ITCHING BAD BUT I HAD IT FOR YRS THE ITCH LIVED WITH IT BUT THE SWELLING AND TISSUE I NEVER HAD WHEN THEY FORMED MORE OUTSIDE,,WELL ANYWAY SWITCHED TO DIFFERENT WIPES ,TREATED THEM BEST I COULD ,I LITERALLY WAS ON THE PHONE READY TO GO TO DOC BUT I WAITED AND IN FEW DAYS GOT IT BETTER ,,NOW ITS BEEN GOOD 2 MONTHS PAIN FREE AND 'ITCH'FREE FOR LONGEST TIME.I USE A LITTLE DAB PREP H BEFORE LEG DAY JUST I CASE SO FAR SO GOOD,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 05, 2013, 12:46:39 PM
FOU FOR THE THE PAST FEW MONTHS I HAVE BEEN HAVING MORE RECOVERY BETWEEN INTENSE LEGS SESSIONS ,FEEL IT IN HIPS/LOWER BACK.PELVIC AREA FOR FEW DAYS AND I WAS HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH HEMMROIDS LOL,,,SORRY TO DIVULGE BUT THEY WERE AFFECTING MY TRAINING ON LEG DAY DUE TO SQUEEZING/HEAVY WEIGHTS I DO,,STARTED TREATING THEM ON OWN I NEVER USED PREPERATION H IN MY LIFE SO IT STARTED BEING MY FRIEND FOR A WHILE LOL,,,GOING TO BATHROOM WAS A SMALL CHORE TOO ,,MOSTLY ITCHING BAD BUT I HAD IT FOR YRS THE ITCH LIVED WITH IT BUT THE SWELLING AND TISSUE I NEVER HAD WHEN THEY FORMED MORE OUTSIDE,,WELL ANYWAY SWITCHED TO DIFFERENT WIPES ,TREATED THEM BEST I COULD ,I LITERALLY WAS ON THE PHONE READY TO GO TO DOC BUT I WAITED AND IN FEW DAYS GOT IT BETTER ,,NOW ITS BEEN GOOD 2 MONTHS PAIN FREE AND 'ITCH'FREE FOR LONGEST TIME.I USE A LITTLE DAB PREP H BEFORE LEG DAY JUST I CASE SO FAR SO GOOD,,,,,

Its all about sufficient Fibre, water and removal/reduction of dairy - because of the gas (I've been there myself).. As a result I had any issue in over 2 years.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 12:56:37 PM
Quads alone mate.. This is another "can't get out of the gym" workout ie focusing on weak links (train those body parts twice- medial and rear delts/traps in seven days).. If feel spent/tired then I would take the two days off.


NICE LEG BRO,,SEE THOSE CALVES DIESELED,,,I HAVE A LOT OF LEG SHOTS POSTED,,I HAVE NEW ONE MAYBE I'LL POST IT,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Viking11 on February 05, 2013, 01:00:14 PM
Sitting at 280 after my last leg workout. Highest bodyweight in 16 years! Off season this winter I have tried to eat clean as circumstances allow. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 05, 2013, 01:05:12 PM
Its all about sufficient Fibre, water and removal/reduction of dairy - because of the gas (I've been there myself).. As a result I had any issue in over 2 years.
YES ,,I AM VERY TUNED TO MY BODY VITAMIN/SUPPLEMENT WISE,EAT CLOSE TO SAME MAIN MEALS PER DAY,,,I EAT 3-4 FRESH FRUITS EVERY DAY AND MOST FIBER KIND FRUITS,VEGETABLES,I EAT A LOT OF WHOLE GRAINS BREAD,CRACKERS,ECT ,,,THE PROTEIN POWDERS MIGHT CAUSE SOME EXTRA DISTRESS BUT I DEAL,,,,OTHERWISE I FEEL GREAT ,,I GOT OVER IT I THINK I WAS USING SOME TOO MANY HARSH SOAPS,WIPES TO CLEAN I'M A FANATIC I GUESS,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 05, 2013, 10:36:58 PM
My nose isn't bum it's just swollen which is normal this far out from surgery. I love how it looks and the fact that I haven't had any infections so it is functioning really well. My jaw I strained in the gym when I was training legs a couple of weeks ago. It still hurts but at least it's getting easier to eat. I had to eat soft foods the first week and eat really slowly.

It surprises me, Karen, that you apparently took my chiding you about your nose and jaw so seriously. Temporomandibular disorders are a serious problem which affect more women then men and can last indefinitely or eventually go away. It is good to know that you are pleased with the results of your rhinoplasty and that the swelling you frequently mention as being very troublesome is a part of the normal healing process.

What also surprises me is that you chose this topic to reply to above the topic of your laptop problems which I also offered to help you with. This tells me that your jaw and your nose are bothering you more than the resent technology dysfunctions you've experienced. How is your laptop BTW?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 08:43:57 AM
Great....my rabbit just bit through my internet cable....LOL....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 08:46:10 AM
using my phone...so I wanted to go running but I have to go now and get a new cable...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 09:19:13 AM
BACK
HAMMER REVERSE PULLDOWN WARMED WITH 45 PER SIDE,THEN 2 PLATES PER ALTERNATED REPS BOTH HAND 6 THEN SINGLE HAND 6,WORKED 2 PLATES AND SOME 10'S PER SIDE 3X TOTALSETS AFTER WARMUP
TBAR ROW 2.5 PLATES,3 PLATES,3.5PLATES FRONT LOADED TYPE12/10/9 REPS
LOW CABLE ROW 3X 195.210,210 STACK TYPE 10/10/10
TBAR PAD TO CHEST ROW INNER GRIP 2 PLATES 10,2 PLATES 10 AND 5 .10REPS,2.5 PLATES 8..3 TOTAL
I DO A STANDING I CALL THEM PULLDOWN/PULLOVER I DO THEM IN CABLE CROSSOVER STATION FACEING STACK MOVE BACK FEW INCHES SLIGHT BEND AT WAIST STRETCH A BIT OVER SHOULDER LEVEL PULL BACK TO WAIST 3 SETS 10 NICE MOVEMENT...

WEIGHTED HYPERS
3X12 WITH 45LB PLATE

BIS
CURL BAR PREMADE 80/90/100 REPS 10/12
DB CURLS 35/40/45 DONE 6 FULL REPS AND PARTIALS FROM START POSITION TO MIDWAY HALF.. NICE PUMP
ALTERNATE HAMMERS I DO THEM CROSSING OVER INSTEAD STRAIGHT UP TURN DUMBELL SO HAND IS FACING MIRROR TOP PART HAND COME UP TO CHEST LEVEL 45/45/ SET 10...
FINISH CURLS STRAIGHT BAR CLOSE GRIP 2X 10

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 09:36:23 AM
BACK
HAMMER REVERSE PULLDOWN WARMED WITH 45 PER SIDE,THEN 2 PLATES PER ALTERNATED REPS BOTH HAND 6 THEN SINGLE HAND 6,WORKED 2 PLATES AND SOME 10'S PER SIDE 3X TOTALSETS AFTER WARMUP
TBAR ROW 2.5 PLATES,3 PLATES,3.5PLATES FRONT LOADED TYPE12/10/9 REPS
LOW CABLE ROW 3X 195.210,210 STACK TYPE 10/10/10
TBAR PAD TO CHEST ROW INNER GRIP 2 PLATES 10,2 PLATES 10 AND 5 .10REPS,2.5 PLATES 8..3 TOTAL
I DO A STANDING I CALL THEM PULLDOWN/PULLOVER I DO THEM IN CABLE CROSSOVER STATION FACEING STACK MOVE BACK FEW INCHES SLIGHT BEND AT WAIST STRETCH A BIT OVER SHOULDER LEVEL PULL BACK TO WAIST 3 SETS 10 NICE MOVEMENT...

WEIGHTED HYPERS
3X12 WITH 45LB PLATE

BIS
CURL BAR PREMADE 80/90/100 REPS 10/12
DB CURLS 35/40/45 DONE 6 FULL REPS AND PARTIALS FROM START POSITION TO MIDWAY HALF.. NICE PUMP
ALTERNATE HAMMERS I DO THEM CROSSING OVER INSTEAD STRAIGHT UP TURN DUMBELL SO HAND IS FACING MIRROR TOP PART HAND COME UP TO CHEST LEVEL 45/45/ SET 10...
FINISH CURLS STRAIGHT BAR CLOSE GRIP 2X 10

ABS
great workout nj..whats your real first name? i am really called Donny...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 09:45:34 AM
great workout nj..whats your real first name? i am really called Donny...
STEPHEN/STEVE...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 09:48:13 AM
STEPHEN/STEVE...
ok Steve.. yeah my real name is Donald but everyone calls me Donny also spelt Donnie.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 09:50:49 AM
Today is a rest day for me...after back i think legs would be too much for me today(as Karen pointed out one time too) the deads really fatigue my lower back.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 06, 2013, 11:56:45 AM
Back

4 sets (palms fwd) pull ups x 10-12 reps (static hold at top 2 seconds per rep)

4 sets vbar pull ups x 8 reps (exaggerated stretch at bottom 2-3 seconds per rep)

4 sets one arm db rows 120lb x 8 reps

30 min cardio recumbent bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 12:15:54 PM
Back

4 sets (palms fwd) pull ups x 10-12 reps (static hold at top 2 seconds per rep)

4 sets vbar pull ups x 8 reps (exaggerated stretch at bottom 2-3 seconds per rep)

4 sets one arm db rows 120lb x 8 reps

30 min cardio recumbent bike
I like the long stretch at the bottom of the v bar chins..i will do this next back workout. V bar chins really hit the length of the lats and you can really get a long range of motion. nice tip Alex.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 04:55:40 PM
STEPHEN/STEVE...

Good to know you Steve and Donny, my name is Jay.

I am not sure the Primemuscle handle suits so well me these days. It picked it a very long time ago on a whim and kind of as a joke, (prime sometimes meaning aged beef....thus aged muscle). How old is well aged when it comes to muscle? Is 68 year old muscle still considered prime muscle and opposed to one being in their prime, which for me probably was many years ago?

Well the handle stays because it is too much work to figure out everywhere on the Internet where I have left a footprint using this handle. However, "you can call me Ray or you can call me Jay but you doesn't have to call me Johnson," as was once said.

Incidentally, in my case, Jay is not short for Jason, according to my birth certificate it has always been just Jay. Not that I have a short name since I also have a middle name and last name and my suffix is III. My grandfather was so well liked that I actually have many cousins who are also named Jay after him, however my son and I are the only living family to have his full name. My late father, my son and I are all only sons. My son and his wife broke with tradition when they named their only son.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:02:57 PM
i like Jay...nice sounding... i think we can talk first names here..why not? I like to honestly read your posts and get to know you ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:11:27 PM
I am a very honest and straight guy and i am who i say i am..nothing to hide. not many Donalds in Celle Germany.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 05:12:27 PM
i like Jay...nice sounding... i think we can talk first names here..why not? I like to honestly read your posts and get to know you ..

Depending on who you ask, there might be a lot to know about me or nothing worth knowing. Anyway, I agree with being honest and Jay surely suits me better than Primemuscle. My wife likes to call me her complicated husband. I am not sure she means this as a compliment though. She has put up with me for almost 50 years. I guess that says something about both of us and fate.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 05:16:04 PM
I am a very honest and straight guy and i am who i say i am..nothing to hide. not many Donalds in Celle Germany.

-Same here. I found out early in life that lying always gets you in trouble. As they say, the truth shall set you free.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:16:54 PM
Depending on who you ask, there might be a lot to know about me or nothing worth knowing. Anyway, I agree with being honest and Jay surely suits me better than Primemuscle. My wife likes to call me her complicated husband. I am not sure she means this as a compliment though. She has put up with me for almost 50 years. I guess that says something about both of us and fate.
maybe one Day we will meet.Of course i expect a great meal... ;D I have never been to the US.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:19:30 PM
-Same here. I found out early in life that lying always gets you in trouble. As they say, the truth shall set you free.
yes 100%
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 05:24:51 PM
maybe one Day we will meet.Of course i expect a great meal... ;D I have never been to the US.

Well when you decide to come to the U.S. keep Portland in mind as a place to visit. It would be great to meet you. Except when our daughter and family are living with us we have a large house with extra bedrooms and usually have no problem putting folks up....feeding our guests is never an issue.

Tonight we are having scampi and grits plus a vegetable (I am not sure what vegetable because my wife is cooking tonight). Last night, I fixed broccoli and beef, Chinese style, using New York steak sliced paper thin for the beef. -Served it with steamed rice. Later I ran (not literally) to the store for two slices of Tiramisu.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 05:26:48 PM
Well when you decide to come to the U.S. keep Portland in mind as a place to visit. It would be great to meet you. Except when our daughter and family are living with us we have a large house with extra bedrooms and usually have no problem putting folks up....feeding them is never an issue.

Tonight we are having scampi and grits plus a vegetable (I am not sure what vegetable because my wife is cooking tonight). Last night, I fixed broccoli and beef, Chinese style, using New York steak sliced paper thin for the beef. -Served it with steamed rice. Later I ran (not literally) to the store for two slices of Tiramisu.
i got to meet your wife. she sounds great..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 05:33:33 PM
alex,steve,karen,donny,jay...good group.if i forgot someone sorry....stephen john and bunch vowels is my formal name,like most italian names,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 06, 2013, 05:38:33 PM
alex,steve,karen,donny,jay...good group.if i forgot someone sorry....stephen john and bunch vowels is my formal name,like most italian names,,,

Mine is English....American English after many generations, but still English. My dad and his sisters were born in Capetown South Africa when my grandfather worked there as a dental surgeon.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 05:46:35 PM
side chest and legs keeping condition ,,,legs always had size but last few yrs got legs more deep seperation that took very hard dieting and some cardio to get,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 05:48:59 PM
Mine is English....American English after many generations, but still English. My dad and his sisters were born in Capetown South Africa when my grandfather worked there as a dental surgeon.
thats where actress charlize theron is from,,,,cool...prime..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 06:00:22 PM
thats where actress charlize theron is from,,,,cool...prime..
really is she? prime is now Jay-- first names on this thread. We are friends.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 06:02:46 PM
really is she? prime is now Jay-- first names on this thread. We are friends.
yes,,,i forgot yes to names...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 06:08:40 PM
yes,,,i forgot yes to names...
I know itīs internet and a forum but i like you guys and Karen . Itīs a thread of honesty and integrity. good people.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 06, 2013, 06:12:49 PM
I know itīs internet and a forum but i like you guys and Karen . Itīs a thread of honesty and integrity. good people.
i'm on board,,,literally lol,,,doing delts tomm usually wed/thurs back/bi then calf/delt /forearms ,,mixed up tues back/wed off/thurs delt...my upper/mid back is nice but sore from yesterdays back/bi day lots of rows ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 06, 2013, 06:32:22 PM
i'm on board,,,literally lol,,,doing delts tomm usually wed/thurs back/bi then calf/delt /forearms ,,mixed up tues back/wed off/thurs delt...my upper/mid back is nice but sore from yesterdays back/bi day lots of rows ...
i do not believe there is a better ex as Barbell rows...love them !
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 06, 2013, 09:35:13 PM
Great....my rabbit just bit through my internet cable....LOL....
That's the only thing I dislike about rabbits, they chew through everything.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 06, 2013, 09:37:23 PM
alex,steve,karen,donny,jay...good group.if i forgot someone sorry....stephen john and bunch vowels is my formal name,like most italian names,,,
Willie posts in here sometimes. Nice names guys :-)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 06, 2013, 11:49:25 PM
We're pretty cool
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 02:02:43 AM
Willie posts in here sometimes. Nice names guys :-)
yes Willie is a cool guy and he really knows a lot about training.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 03:37:53 AM
so legs today::
Abs: incline sit ups 3x20-30
hanging knee raises 3x20-30
jumping rope(warms up my calfs too)

pre-exhaust
leg extensions 3x15
Front squats 3x10-15

leg curls 3x15
lying hip raises feet on bench(these work the hamstrings very well although mainly for glutes) I did Deads on my back workout and again today would be too much. 3xmax reps on these.

seated calf raises with
jumping rope 3x15+ reps on the calf raises.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 03:42:48 AM
my workout today is short and straight to the point. Due to time constrictions i have to train fast and concentrate on the few exercises i will do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 04:41:20 AM
my workout today is short and straight to the point. Due to time constrictions i have to train fast and concentrate on the few exercises i will do.
nice donny,,,is that u in the pic u look like an anatomy chart  ;D,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 04:51:46 AM
nice donny,,,is that u in the pic u look like an anatomy chart  ;D,,,,
;D she has great definition....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 05:03:03 AM
;D she has great definition....
its early here must rub my eyes out,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 07, 2013, 11:58:53 AM
Chest

5 sets flat BB bench press 135-275lb  @ 20-6 reps (1/2 pyramid)
5 sets incline BB bench press 225lb @ 8 reps
5 sets dips @ 12-8 reps

30 mins steady state cardio recumbent bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 07, 2013, 12:41:57 PM
A solid workout ...looks good Alex...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 12:42:41 PM
A solid workout ...looks good Alex...
NICE BENCH,,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 05:05:37 PM
That's the only thing I dislike about rabbits, they chew through everything.

I don't think a rabbit would much like living in our home where there are two dogs who would no doubt chase after it. Do rabbits and dogs get along? Can rabbits be trained to use a litter box or a pet door to go outside like a cat or a dog?

When I was a kid I had a few rabbits which were kept in cages. They were not particularly affectionate. I remember they ate their young, which were amazingly tiny and pink.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 05:21:53 PM
....lying hip raises feet on bench(these work the hamstrings very well although mainly for glutes)....

Awhile back I put my lower back out and ended up going to physical therapy for about six weeks to get it back in good condition. One of the exercises the physical therapist prescribed was lying hip raises to strengthen my core muscles. I did them with feet on the floor though. Later I added an elastic band around my lower thighs, just above the knee. With my hips raised, I would part my knees, which added another dimension to the exercise. I preformed 3 sets of 10 of these lying hip raises every day for several months. My back has been fine ever since. Now I only do them occasionally.

I am fortunate in that I have not had more back trouble then I have. People who have long backs tend to have more back trouble. I have a really long back compared to my leg length. I also have long arms. To think about it, I am proportioned like an ape. My sleeve length is 35" while my inseam is maybe 31". I have shrunk some over the years but I was 5' 11" at 18 years of age. I think I am around 5' 10" today. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 07:38:32 PM
Awhile back I put my lower back out and ended up going to physical therapy for about six weeks to get it back in good condition. One of the exercises the physical therapist prescribed was lying hip raises to strengthen my core muscles. I did them with feet on the floor though. Later I added an elastic band around my lower thighs, just above the knee. With my hips raised, I would part my knees, which added another dimension to the exercise. I preformed 3 sets of 10 of these lying hip raises every day for several months. My back has been fine ever since. Now I only do them occasionally.

I am fortunate in that I have not had more back trouble then I have. People who have long backs tend to have more back trouble. I have a really long back compared to my leg length. I also have long arms. To think about it, I am proportioned like an ape. My sleeve length is 35" while my inseam is maybe 31". I have shrunk some over the years but I was 5' 11" at 18 years of age. I think I am around 5' 10" today. 
great jay,,,u do alot for ur age my dad still trains same age dad will be 70 ur 67 i think,,,stay course feel the body not the age..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 07:47:02 PM
nice delt workout ...
seated db press 40 warm up,,,50 for 12,60 x10,65 x9,50 x12 drop
cable laterals no handle just cable end,, across body elbow pointed up at top end 3x12
smith up right rows x3
front raise reversed palms up 20/25/30 single arm and threw in some both together 10-12 reps
lying slight incline rear raises x3 20,25,25 dbells 10-12 reps

shrugs front x3 225,275,295 12/10/10 supersetted with 45 lb plate in each hand pull up and slight to rear on top 3x 12

calves standing calf raise
forearms roll weighted rop 10 and a 5 roll up/down/underhand reverse back 4 x
reverse cable behind back wrist curls x3...

i usually post cold no pump pic's but i did a end workout pic,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 07:56:06 PM
great jay,,,u do alot for ur age my dad still trains same age dad will be 70 ur 67 i think,,,stay course feel the body not the age..

Actually, I am 68 now and I am about halfway to being 69. One thing that has changed over time is what motivates me to exercise. While I used to be incredibly vain and looking good was my primary motivator, I have mellowed in the vanity department. The benefit I enjoy the most these days is that I feel healthier that I probably would had I spent my life as a couch potato. Along with this change I have learned to balance my interests better then when I spent a couple of hours at the gym everyday regardless of what else was going on in my life. These days, I don't feel bad at all if I miss going to the gym to do something with my wife.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 07, 2013, 08:00:09 PM
Actually, I am 68 now and I am about halfway to being 69. One thing that has changed overtime is what motivates me to exercise. While I used to be incredibly vain and looking good was my primary motivator, I have mellowed in the vanity department. The benefit I enjoy the most these days is that I feel healthier that I probably would had I spent my life as a couch potato. Along with this change I have learned to balance my interests better then when I spent a couple of hours at the gym everyday regardless of what else was going on in my life. These days, I don't feel bad at all if I miss going to the gym to do something with my wife.
i'm still in the vain stage  :P,,,my wife lets me have it,,,rolls her eyes...jay i really love training and never have a bad workout,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 08:04:10 PM
i'm still in the vain stage  :P,,,my wife lets me have it,,,rolls her eyes...jay i really love training and never have a bad workout,,,

My wife likes to tell me how vain I am. To be honest, compared to her, I am still pretty vain.

Like you, I cannot recall having a bad workout. Sometimes my workouts feel absolutely great and other times they are just good, but never bad.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 07, 2013, 08:39:02 PM
Everyone is looking amazing in the pics posted. I am lucky to be amongst such a hot group of guys haha :-) so an update on my laptop, it's got to go away to get fixed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 07, 2013, 09:12:03 PM
Everyone is looking amazing in the pics posted. I am lucky to be amongst such a hot group of guys haha :-) so an update on my laptop, it's got to go away to get fixed.

How old is your laptop? Laptops have really come down in price in recent years. It might be worth it to simply get a new one. Of course if you goal is an Apple product, expect to pay a lot more. They are still pretty expensive.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 07, 2013, 09:51:57 PM
How old is your laptop? Laptops have really come down in price in recent years. It might be worth it to simply get a new one. Of course if you goal is an Apple product, expect to pay a lot more. They are still pretty expensive.
My laptop is 2 years old and I paid extra for extended warranty so I don't want to get a new one yet. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 08, 2013, 04:20:31 AM
nice delt workout ...
seated db press 40 warm up,,,50 for 12,60 x10,65 x9,50 x12 drop
cable laterals no handle just cable end,, across body elbow pointed up at top end 3x12
smith up right rows x3
front raise reversed palms up 20/25/30 single arm and threw in some both together 10-12 reps
lying slight incline rear raises x3 20,25,25 dbells 10-12 reps

shrugs front x3 225,275,295 12/10/10 supersetted with 45 lb plate in each hand pull up and slight to rear on top 3x 12

calves standing calf raise
forearms roll weighted rop 10 and a 5 roll up/down/underhand reverse back 4 x
reverse cable behind back wrist curls x3...

i usually post cold no pump pic's but i did a end workout pic,,,
looking in great shape steve...today i will hit shoulders and arms
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 08, 2013, 04:39:23 AM
warm up + Abs
crunches and leg raises 2-3 x 30-50(i really just train till i feel they are worked enough)

Tri set:
Front DB raises 4x12
side Lateral raises 4x12
bent over raises 4x12

I will finish off my Delts with DB press in Hammer grip 3-4x10-12

supersets:
seated DB curls 2x6-8
tricep extensions(ez bar) incline bench 2x8-10

Barbell curls 2x6-8
close bench press 2x6-8

concentration curl 2x12-15
1 arm DB extensions 2x12-15 ( hit the arms with higher reps at the end)

later tonight i will hit the streets for little jog...keep my old pumper ticking over... :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 08, 2013, 04:55:18 AM
warm up + Abs
crunches and leg raises 2-3 x 30-50(i really just train till i feel they are worked enough)

Tri set:
Front DB raises 4x12
side Lateral raises 4x12
bent over raises 4x12

I will finish off my Delts with DB press in Hammer grip 3-4x10-12

supersets:
seated DB curls 2x6-8
tricep extensions(ez bar) incline bench 2x8-10

Barbell curls 2x6-8
close bench press 2x6-8

concentration curl 2x12-15
1 arm DB extensions 2x12-15 ( hit the arms with higher reps at the end)

later tonight i will hit the streets for little jog...keep my old pumper ticking over... :)
thanx donny nice workout....guys i might be a thread geek here on our thread but i do read word for word every post,,,,today/tomm nj is bracing for crushing snow storm up to a foot or more in some areas 2 ft in neweng/boston.conneticut,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 08, 2013, 06:36:44 AM
thanx donny nice workout....guys i might be a thread geek here on our thread but i do read word for word every post,,,,today/tomm nj is bracing for crushing snow storm up to a foot or more in some areas 2 ft in neweng/boston.conneticut,,,,
you keep safe....thank god itīs gone here but snows a little bit inbetween..does not stay though...you aint a thread geek... ;D iīm always logged in on my phone...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 08, 2013, 12:59:28 PM
Shoulder/trap tri-set (reps to failure) 60 sec rest in at end of cycle.

5 sets side lateral raises 15-35lbs
5 sets rear lateral raises 35lbs
5 sets BB shrugs 225lbs


30 mins steady state cardio on recumbent bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 09, 2013, 02:48:28 AM
Shoulder/trap tri-set (reps to failure) 60 sec rest in at end of cycle.

5 sets side lateral raises 15-35lbs
5 sets rear lateral raises 35lbs
5 sets BB shrugs 225lbs


30 mins steady state cardio on recumbent bike
nice..i do not think i would do presses either because your chest workout was really hitting your shoulders too with Incline press. Flat press and 100% with Dips.. with these 3 movements for 5 sets each which you did..itīs enough(in my opinion).
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 09, 2013, 07:32:43 AM
so today i will do some Ab training with an hour walk to get some fresh air. A brisk walk i find very refreshing... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: hrspwr1 on February 09, 2013, 09:39:08 AM
Just got back from an 1 1/2 hr walk up the mountain, nice to be out in the sun and fresh air for a change. I have been swamped with work and only made it to boxing last Monday night, wanted to lift Thursday but couldn`t make it happen.
 I miss my workouts but thats just how its going to be for now, getting a new business up and running is a 24 hr a day job, hell I lay awake at night unable to sleep because my brain is running overtime. Definitely hitting the weights tomorrow and boxing Monday, I need this stuff for my mind as much as my body. John.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 09, 2013, 01:12:21 PM
Legs

30 min steady state cardio (warm up) recumbent bike

5 (super)sets (unilateral) leg extensions 20-80lbs 1/2 pyramid 20-8 reps
5 (super)lying hamstring curl 20-80lbs 1/2 pyramid 50-8 reps

7 sets BB squat 135-315lbs 1/2 pyramid 25-6 reps
4 sets BB Romanian deadlifts 135-225lb 1/2 pyramid 12-8 reps

3 sets Roman chair squats holding 45lb plate 10 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2013, 01:20:13 PM
well ladies and gentleman and some in between,,,we got snow,snow,snow,up to a 'foot'had good times with kids pulled them on sled together and and then seperate running and letting them go they looked like 'luge'runners in olympics,they had fun ,,so i got 2 leg workouts in snow,then did legs for real later ,,i took alleve and small nap and did workout...

squats 4 sets 135/225/275/315/405///12/10/10/10/8..
hacks close feet 4 plates ,4.5 plates,5 plates  10/10/10
extensions 235/250/265 15/12/12

hams sit up leg curl x3
lying leg curl x3

calves seated calf raise x3
leg press extension x3

2 clear pics ,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 09, 2013, 01:22:24 PM
Legs

30 min steady state cardio (warm up) recumbent bike

5 (super)sets (unilateral) leg extensions 20-80lbs 1/2 pyramid 20-8 reps
5 (super)lying hamstring curl 20-80lbs 1/2 pyramid 50-8 reps

7 sets BB squat 135-315lbs 1/2 pyramid 25-6 reps
4 sets BB Romanian deadlifts 135-225lb 1/2 pyramid 12-8 reps

3 sets Roman chair squats holding 45lb plate 10 reps
nice alex ,,intense training all ur workouts,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 09, 2013, 01:58:02 PM
I took a friend to the butt clinic for a colonoscopy. Unfortunately, he had not adequately prepped so the colonoscopy was inconclusive. He will have to reschedule another one. What a bummer! The prep for a colonoscopy is the worst if you've never had to do it.

I took him back home afterwards. As soon as he walked in his wife started giving him a bad time about not prepping properly. It made me appreciate my wife all the more because she would never have said those things to me even if she thought them.

Anyway, that's how I spent the afternoon yesterday.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 10, 2013, 02:33:00 AM
Just got back from an 1 1/2 hr walk up the mountain, nice to be out in the sun and fresh air for a change. I have been swamped with work and only made it to boxing last Monday night, wanted to lift Thursday but couldn`t make it happen.
 I miss my workouts but thats just how its going to be for now, getting a new business up and running is a 24 hr a day job, hell I lay awake at night unable to sleep because my brain is running overtime. Definitely hitting the weights tomorrow and boxing Monday, I need this stuff for my mind as much as my body. John.
nice alex ,,intense training all ur workouts,,,,
nice too see you John....yes you need it for your mind too. you have to try and relax and do it for your peace and well being.
well ladies and gentleman and some in between,,,we got snow,snow,snow,up to a 'foot'had good times with kids pulled them on sled together and and then seperate running and letting them go they looked like 'luge'runners in olympics,they had fun ,,so i got 2 leg workouts in snow,then did legs for real later ,,i took alleve and small nap and did workout...

squats 4 sets 135/225/275/315/405///12/10/10/10/8..
hacks close feet 4 plates ,4.5 plates,5 plates  10/10/10
extensions 235/250/265 15/12/12

hams sit up leg curl x3
lying leg curl x3

calves seated calf raise x3
leg press extension x3

2 clear pics ,,,
you and Alex amaze me with your intensive workouts and the results speak for themselves !!
I took a friend to the butt clinic for a colonoscopy. Unfortunately, he had not adequately prepped so the colonoscopy was inconclusive. He will have to reschedule another one. What a bummer! The prep for a colonoscopy is the worst if you've never had to do it.

I took him back home afterwards. As soon as he walked in his wife started giving him a bad time about not prepping properly. It made me appreciate my wife all the more because she would never have said those things to me even if she thought them.

Anyway, that's how I spent the afternoon yesterday.
yes i have to do this too because i have Colitis Ulserosa and i was very ill with it in Hospital. The prep is horrible...drinking 3-4 litres of fluid so you sit on the toilet most of the day... :( I do it now every 2 years but i feel better now and running "massages" my colon...or at least i read in an article it helps. anyway i used to take a lot of medication but i do not take it now and my last check up was a year ago i had a small problem(30cm of my end colon is ill)..never really think about it anymore. last night i wanted to just walk but what i did was wrap up a 10kg plate in a thick bath towel in a ruck sack and speed marched and ran..as a young guy i ran with heavier weight but it felt good. I like the pain..just like alex after 7 sets of squats  :o
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 10, 2013, 11:52:03 AM
Shoulders

6 sets seated lateral raises 12-35lbs @ 15-8 reps (1/2 pyramid) 10 secs between sets

5 sets standing BB Military presses 135-165lbs @ 15-6 reps (1/2 pyramid)

4 sets rear lateral raises 35lbs @ 10 reps

30 minutes steady state cardio - recumbent bike (was going to do jump rope but delts were shot)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 10, 2013, 12:01:21 PM
Shoulders

6 sets seated lateral raises 12-35lbs @ 15-8 reps (1/2 pyramid) 10 secs between sets

5 sets standing BB Military presses 135-165lbs @ 15-6 reps (1/2 pyramid)

4 sets rear lateral raises 35lbs @ 10 reps

30 minutes steady state cardio - recumbent bike (was going to do jump rope but delts were shot)
nice volume...side delts getting a good workout. I am having a day off today (Sunday).. tomorrow i will try doing 3 exercises for chest for 5 sets each like you did on chest day...of course much lighter weights ! ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 10, 2013, 12:32:59 PM
nice volume...side delts getting a good workout. I am having a day off today (Sunday).. tomorrow i will try doing 3 exercises for chest for 5 sets each like you did on chest day...of course much lighter weights ! ;D

To be honest with you Don, I barely pay attention the numbers/weight.. It is so immaterial to having a productive workout.. I've only noticed (for the first time in years) the actual numbers when logging in this thread. I train on my own in my gym without a spotter - that's why I get creative with variety/intensity.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 10, 2013, 01:01:07 PM
To be honest with you Don, I barely pay attention the numbers/weight.. It is so immaterial to having a productive workout.. I've only noticed (for the first time in years) the actual numbers when logging in this thread. I train on my own in my gym without a spotter - that's why I get creative with variety/intensity.

I also train without a spotter or training partner. Years ago, a friend wanted to train with me. Unfortunately, we were physically mismatched, he being much smaller than I. We spent more time loading and unloading the weights then we did lifting them. I was relieved when he stopped coming to the gym. There have been a couple of times when someone would just jump in an start training with me who was more or less my equal. I must say that when the partner thing works, it really helps push me to do better and reach new goals.

At this point in time, I don't need to be lifting huge amounts of weight. I never was a power lifter, nor did I ever want to be one. Many of them sustain permanent damage to their bodies. For me, working out has been primarily about being healthy and also looking fit. There are so many machines that more or less duplicate the movements when using free weights without the risks involved or the need for a spotter. I gave up using a barbell for bench presses long ago and have never missed it. I have very long arms, so the bench press was never my feature move anyway. When I use free weights it is for those exercises like curls and dumbbell flies where the weight is comparatively light and easy to manage. For me using good form is superior to lifting excessive weight. When using good form the increases in strength and therefore weight come naturally.

One thing I like to do is forecast how much weight I will be lifting in a year if I increase the poundage by a certain amount each week or so. You'd be amazed at how much even a 5 lb. a month increase equates to over a year. If one is curling with 40 lb. dumbbells, hypothetically in a year they'd be lifting a 100 lbs. in each hand. Well, suffice it to say, I am not curling 100 lb. dumbbells. If I were, my arms would either be huge or I'd end up pulling them out their joints. LOL.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2013, 04:39:07 PM
getting back to donny's illness,,,my brother in law has had colitis for long time very bad at times steroids,hospital stay once for a while due to clotting,inflammation ect,,well colonoscopy saved his life due to frequency getting them .sadly his last one 2 months ago showed some inflammation irregular than usual in rectal area,well they found a small and i mean very small tumor'c'word confirmed we were very upset ,my sis and in law have children 7/3 boys and he's 45 young ya know.well all options given by best surgeon and top doc in this field concluded radical surgery to be cancer free no rad/chemo,eliminate colitis also 100 pct ,long recovery 3 months but normal life other than this is down side wearing 'bag'for rest of life,he was under 9 hrs for surgery all in all,he's ok its 1 wk but in pain all over ,,i'm very saddened by this but he's saved by modern medicine.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 10, 2013, 07:46:07 PM
Yes i have to do this too because i have Colitis Ulserosa and i was very ill with it in Hospital. The prep is horrible...drinking 3-4 litres of fluid so you sit on the toilet most of the day... :( I do it now every 2 years but i feel better now and running "massages" my colon...or at least i read in an article it helps. anyway i used to take a lot of medication but i do not take it now and my last check up was a year ago i had a small problem(30cm of my end colon is ill).

I am scheduled to have the once every 5 years colonoscopy next year.

I don't know if it is colitis or irritable bowel syndrome, but I go to the john a pretty often. I have hemorrhoids which sometimes bleed. The doctor suggested that the pressure from the hemorrhoids my be the cause of the urge to go more frequently. Up until about a week ago, these suckers were bleeding every time I would sit on the toilet, which had me concerned and then all of a sudden the bleeding stopped and I have been very regular for a change. I can't think of anything I've done that is different which might have cleared things up, but I am really enjoying not trotting off to the bathroom every few hours. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 10, 2013, 08:02:33 PM
Since we are talking medical here an update on my daughter. Had to take her back to doc today as she is worse. Due to being allergic to penicillin he couldn't give her what he would like so the other meds had no effect. She's on different meds now and had an x ray and will see the doc again in 2 days time. Me, my jaw is much better. I can eat chicken now as before it hurt to chew so can give bj's again ( joke here, haha)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 10, 2013, 08:07:31 PM
Since we are talking medical here an update on my daughter. Had to take her back to doc today as she is worse. Due to being allergic to penicillin he couldn't give her what he would like so the other meds had no effect. She's on different meds now and had an x ray and will see the doc again in 2 days time. Me, my jaw is much better. I can eat chicken now as before it hurt to chew so can give bj's again ( joke here, haha)
i hope ur daughter gets well,,,my 3 yr old always has /gets bad coughs,she uses inhaler now/nebulizer when needed,,she allergic to dogs bad/cats we have 2 we did some allergy tests..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 10, 2013, 08:28:43 PM
i hope ur daughter gets well,,,my 3 yr old always has /gets bad coughs,she uses inhaler now/nebulizer when needed,,she allergic to dogs bad/cats we have 2 we did some allergy tests..
Thank you. Yes that's the problem once you get something with the chest it becomes a weakness and colds just go there. I am not happy about this. I warned her not to put her air con on so low after getting caught in the rain but she's a teen and very stubborn. Now she knows what I mean.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 11, 2013, 04:40:16 AM
I am scheduled to have the once every 5 years colonoscopy next year.

I don't know if it is colitis or irritable bowel syndrome, but I go to the john a pretty often. I have hemorrhoids which sometimes bleed. The doctor suggested that the pressure from the hemorrhoids my be the cause of the urge to go more frequently. Up until about a week ago, these suckers were bleeding every time I would sit on the toilet, which had me concerned and then all of a sudden the bleeding stopped and I have been very regular for a change. I can't think of anything I've done that is different which might have cleared things up, but I am really enjoying not trotting off to the bathroom every few hours. 
make sure you get your check ups.. I was ill for a while pains..Diarrhea and blood. I was shocked when i saw the pictures of my colon. I was told it could have burst and i would not be here.. suppose i refused to accept i was ill and chronic ill. been living with it over 10 years so anyway my story is over back to training...LOL. Karen and Steve best wishes to your Daughters.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 11, 2013, 04:55:40 AM
so today i will do a simple but taxing workout...
Warm up jump rope and ABS:
reverse crunches with
Crunches twisting 3xmax reps untill i feel they are worked.

Dumbbell Flat press 5x8-10
Incline Dumbbell press 5x8-10
Decline Dumbbell Press 5x8-10

I will not tri set today as i think with 5 sets and so much pressing i will need the rest in between. however sitting on my ass in between sets i do not like so i will jump rope in between. I will not have a problem with my stamina because my heart is well conditioned. I also feel itīs wise to start with flat press as there is "overspill" to the upper and lower areas. Decline press is also a great exercise that really hits it all too and is very often overlooked.. good if you have some shoulder issues too. I think after 10 sets pressing upper and flat presses i would have difficulty doing Dips and with Bells i can adjust the weight.. so thatīs why decline Dumbbell press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 11, 2013, 12:27:49 PM

Good work D!

so today i will do a simple but taxing workout...
Warm up jump rope and ABS:
reverse crunches with
Crunches twisting 3xmax reps untill i feel they are worked.

Dumbbell Flat press 5x8-10
Incline Dumbbell press 5x8-10
Decline Dumbbell Press 5x8-10

I will not tri set today as i think with 5 sets and so much pressing i will need the rest in between. however sitting on my ass in between sets i do not like so i will jump rope in between. I will not have a problem with my stamina because my heart is well conditioned. I also feel itīs wise to start with flat press as there is "overspill" to the upper and lower areas. Decline press is also a great exercise that really hits it all too and is very often overlooked.. good if you have some shoulder issues too. I think after 10 sets pressing upper and flat presses i would have difficulty doing Dips and with Bells i can adjust the weight.. so thatīs why decline Dumbbell press.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 11, 2013, 12:35:44 PM
Arms

4 sets db incline curls (super sets) 16-45lb @ 20-10 reps
4 sets db overhead tricep extension (super sets) 16-45lb @ 15-6 reps

4 sets ez bar curls (super sets) 135lb @ 12 reps
4 sets close grip bench (super sets) 135-180lbs @ 12-10 reps

2 sets dips (super sets) to failure
2 sets db hammer curl (super sets) 45lb to failure

30 min steady state cardio - recumbent bike
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 11, 2013, 12:36:39 PM
Thank you Alex, it was very hard not to do a flying movement but it was Brutal. Another thing i noticed was i left out the push ups at the end...no way i could do them.(which i normally do)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 11, 2013, 12:47:45 PM
Thank you Alex, it was very hard not to do a flying movement but it was Brutal. Another thing i noticed was i left out the push ups at the end...no way i could do them.(which i normally do)
THAT GETS GREAT PUMP AT END,, I DO CHEST DIPS NO WEIGHT 15/20 INTENSE PUMP/SWELL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 11, 2013, 12:53:16 PM
THAT GETS GREAT PUMP AT END,, I DO CHEST DIPS NO WEIGHT 15/20 INTENSE PUMP/SWELL...
I canīt do them after flat and incline presses...i am honest here i just am finished after benches. my triceps are maybe too weak...respect steve...15-20 reps i would not make...maybe 8 good reps but not more. ( i mean parallel bar dips)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 11, 2013, 07:29:43 PM
donny got me thinking for chest workout i did 2 nite
fdb press 60x12,70x12,80 x10,85x8
inc press 135,185,195,185 with drop to plate
hammer flat 3x  2 plates per side x10,2 plates and some change x8
cable crossovers x3
dips x10 supeset elevated pushups x10 2x nice finish for donny,,,,

tris
overhead cable extensions x4
pushdowns x3
tridip machine x3
close grip bench x2

abs
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: booty on February 11, 2013, 10:00:48 PM
make sure you get your check ups.. I was ill for a while pains..Diarrhea and blood. I was shocked when i saw the pictures of my colon. I was told it could have burst and i would not be here.. suppose i refused to accept i was ill and chronic ill. been living with it over 10 years so anyway my story is over back to training...LOL. Karen and Steve best wishes to your Daughters.
That's scarey Donny.  I am glad you are okay now though.  You are very lucky.  And thank you.  Just playing nurse and it's tiring.  I am not sleeping well, as I am up several times in the night checking on my baby girl. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 03:50:37 AM
donny got me thinking for chest workout i did 2 nite
fdb press 60x12,70x12,80 x10,85x8
inc press 135,185,195,185 with drop to plate
hammer flat 3x  2 plates per side x10,2 plates and some change x8
cable crossovers x3
dips x10 supeset elevated pushups x10 2x nice finish for donny,,,,

tris
overhead cable extensions x4
pushdowns x3
tridip machine x3
close grip bench x2

abs
yes great workout steve...Dips and push ups are great..the push ups just polish it off. Thank  you for your kind words too.. you guys motivate me 100%. The input by all here makes me really proud to write here.
That's scarey Donny.  I am glad you are okay now though.  You are very lucky.  And thank you.  Just playing nurse and it's tiring.  I am not sleeping well, as I am up several times in the night checking on my baby girl.  
Thank you Karen..yeah i suppose iīve had a few near scrapes and nearly met the Grim Reaper a couple of times...still here and i hope for a while... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 04:09:39 AM
so Back today:
warm up as always jumping rope
abs: sit ups on floor 3x50(full sit ups) warms my lower back and waist area very well.

Wide Grip over hand chins 2x max
parallel grip chins 2xmax

Barbell rows 4x10 Superset with
Dumbbell pullovers 4x15

Deadlifts 4x10 (straight sets)
Shrugs 3x15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 12, 2013, 11:38:12 AM
Traps/rear delts

3 sets db shrugs 45lbs @ 20 reps

4 sets bb shrugs 135-315lbs @ 15-6 reps

2 sets bb close grip upright rows 135lbs @ 10-12 reps

5 sets rear delt raises 35lbs @ 10-12 reps

Cardio 15 mins: recumbent bike Intervals (2 mins slow/1 min full pace x 5)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 12:04:00 PM
Traps/rear delts

3 sets db shrugs 45lbs @ 20 reps

4 sets bb shrugs 135-315lbs @ 15-6 reps

2 sets bb close grip upright rows 135lbs @ 10-12 reps

5 sets rear delt raises 35lbs @ 10-12 reps

Cardio 15 mins: recumbent bike Intervals (2 mins slow/1 min full pace x 5)
do you recomend training traps alone ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 12, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
do you recomend training traps alone ?

My traps are lagging, so amongst delts I am focusing on bringing them up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 12:14:24 PM
My traps are lagging, so amongst delts I am focusing on bringing them up.
ok thanks Alex..i am always looking to learn here..nice workout your traps will be solid.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 12, 2013, 01:06:28 PM
I'VE DONE TRAPS WITH DELTS AND BACK AT TIMES....I NOTICED HEAVY WEIGHTS WORK BUT THEN GOING FOR HIGHER REPA TRAINING 12/15 GETS THEM GOING AS WELL,I DO DBELL OR SMITH FR AND REAR ON SMITH WORKS WELL,,OR RUN THE RACK 100 DOWN TO SAY 60 LBS DBS 5/8 REP EACH SET ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2013, 01:52:09 PM
do you recomend training traps alone ?

I train traps with delts. I have also combined them with an upper back workout.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 02:14:34 PM
I have mostly trained my traps with back.. i feel more the connection after Deadlifts and rows. My lats just need that last movement (shrugs). However itīs intresting to see diffrent workouts and think about it. tend to agree with Steve direct trap work i like with higher reps and my heavy lifting i do with Deadlifts.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 12, 2013, 02:31:04 PM
ok thanks Alex..i am always looking to learn here..nice workout your traps will be solid.. :)

I like getting to the gym everyday spending up to 45 mins so I don't have to group to many  bodyparts together
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 02:38:34 PM
I like getting to the gym everyday spending up to 45 mins so I don't have to group to many  bodyparts together
i agree and you can get an intense workout in there. I have trained full body, upper/lower(is not bad) but i am the same as you..i devote my energy to 1 bodypart and with the overlap i train it all. You canīt train your muscles so intense with a full body workout not with so many exercises and most important with ..FOCUS on the muscle group(s)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 12, 2013, 02:46:42 PM
I do not think you can train with just Basic Exercises..you have to attack your muscles with "isolation" moves too..they finish off the workout and fine tune a great physique. 1 bodypart training is not new and most just think itīs from the muscle mags. They say itīs just steroids but thatīs bullshit and i have never touched steriods and get results. training 4 or 5 days a week works if you KNOW how to train.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2013, 08:17:12 PM
i agree and you can get an intense workout in there. I have trained full body, upper/lower(is not bad) but i am the same as you..i devote my energy to 1 bodypart and with the overlap i train it all. You canīt train your muscles so intense with a full body workout not with so many exercises and most important with ..FOCUS on the muscle group(s)

Not having trained on a regular basis for some time now, it seems like the smart thing to do is to train the whole body, using lighter resistance and training only 3 days a week to get back in the swing of things. I might add in some cardio only days in between weight resistance days. I am interested in feedback on this idea.

Looking over prior workout routines, I was lifting a lot of weight with not many reps once warmed up. I trained each muscle group once per week with the exception of abs and calves. While I realized good increases in strength and possibly some size, I am not sure it is the best routine for a senior citizen such as me, although I got the routine from a fellow who was designing routines for men over 40 years old. The idea of training once a week was based on the fact that it takes a more mature person longer to recover from a workout.

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 12, 2013, 08:20:24 PM
I like getting to the gym everyday spending up to 45 mins so I don't have to group to many  bodyparts together

I have found the advantage to going to the gym pretty much daily and at about the same time is that it becomes very routine and thus more difficult to miss a day. It is similar to missing a meal when you are used to eating it at the same time each and every day.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2013, 08:33:13 AM
I have found the advantage to going to the gym pretty much daily and at about the same time is that it becomes very routine and thus more difficult to miss a day. It is similar to missing a meal when you are used to eating it at the same time each and every day.
I like to make a point of doing some sort of training every day.. even if itīs just a few Ab exercises and jumping rope. I will later go for a run and i like looking around the streets..sometimes funny. I think iīm going to have to give up coffee itīs giving me heartburn...anyone else find this too? a random question i know... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: wild willie on February 13, 2013, 10:41:45 AM
I like to make a point of doing some sort of training every day.. even if itīs just a few Ab exercises and jumping rope. I will later go for a run and i like looking around the streets..sometimes funny. I think iīm going to have to give up coffee itīs giving me heartburn...anyone else find this too? a random question i know... ;D
coffee gives me heartburn too.....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 13, 2013, 10:53:21 AM
coffee gives me heartburn too.....
yeah i donīt drink a lot of it but i think itīs not good for me..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 13, 2013, 11:21:57 AM
yeah i donīt drink a lot of it but i think itīs not good for me..
DRINK 1 MAYBE 2 PER DAY.NO HEARTBURN CONSISTENT.LIKE IT BLACK ITALIAN ROAST SOME SPLENDA...OR USE NON FAT HAZLENUT CREAMER,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 13, 2013, 11:51:45 AM
Legs

Cardio:warm up 30 min recumbent bike

4 sets unilateral leg extensions 20-60lbs @ 20-10 reps

6 sets BB squats 135-355lbs 20-6 reps

3 (super)sets lying hamstring curl 20-90lbs 15 reps
3 (super)sets Romanian deadlifts 135-225lbs 10 reps
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2013, 01:15:58 PM
I like to make a point of doing some sort of training every day.. even if itīs just a few Ab exercises and jumping rope. I will later go for a run and i like looking around the streets..sometimes funny. I think iīm going to have to give up coffee itīs giving me heartburn...anyone else find this too? a random question i know... ;D

I like to drink coffee. Sometimes, I've wondered if coffee contributes to problems with indigestion. According to Edgar Cayce's teachings, coffee is healthy until you add sugar or cream to it. I like cream in my coffee. If I make coffee at home, as I did this morning, I will make 4 cups (a cup is 6 oz of coffee), therefore the average mug holds about 2 cups. Where I get into trouble is when we go out to a restaurant and the server keeps topping off the cup. What I have concluded is a little coffee is good and, like most anything, too much coffee is not good for you. A interesting factoid, coffee never keeps me awake no matter when I drink it.

Rich foods combined with alcohol give me heartburn. I have not noticed this with coffee when drunk in moderation.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2013, 01:22:34 PM
DRINK 1 MAYBE 2 PER DAY.NO HEARTBURN CONSISTENT.LIKE IT BLACK ITALIAN ROAST SOME SPLENDA...OR USE NON FAT HAZLENUT CREAMER,,,

Be careful with artificial sweeteners, I am convinced they are bad for you. My wife has battled a weight problem all her life, she only drinks beverages with artificial sweeteners. If they worked, why does she have type II diabetes? When I want something sweet, I go for natural sweeteners, like sugar or honey. I have never had issues with my weight. Speaking of sweeteners, a lot of products that are non-fat have added sweeteners instead. Some fats in moderation are good for you. When you think about it, what do you add when you add cream to your coffee? I would suggest maybe 1 tablespoon of cream. I don't believe there is enough fat in that small amount to hurt you.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 13, 2013, 02:18:06 PM
Be careful with artificial sweeteners, I am convinced they are bad for you. My wife has battled a weight problem all her life, she only drinks beverages with artificial sweeteners. If they worked, why does she have type II diabetes? When I want something sweet, I go for natural sweeteners, like sugar or honey. I have never had issues with my weight. Speaking of sweeteners, a lot of products that are non-fat have added sweeteners instead. Some fats in moderation are good for you. When you think about it, what do you add when you add cream to your coffee? I would suggest maybe 1 tablespoon of cream. I don't believe there is enough fat in that small amount to hurt you.
I AGREE ABOUT SWEETNERS,I USE THEM SPARINGLY,DIET SODA CONSUMPTION MAYBE CAN OR 2 PER WK TOPS ,SOMETIMES NEVER.I USE 1/2 PACKET SPLENDA TOO.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 13, 2013, 07:45:33 PM
back
chins 3 x12
bent over rows x3 185>225 12-9
seated chest to pad row machine x3
hammer reverse machine x3 2 plates ,2x 2plates and 10.. 10/8
t bar row inner grip 3 plates 10.3.5 x9,3.5 for 8 drop 25 6 more drop to 2 plates finish

weighted hyoers

bis
curls straight bar x3 85>115 12/8/8/
db curls 35/40/45/
seated bi curl cable superset with cross body hammers x2
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2013, 09:11:17 PM
I AGREE ABOUT SWEETNERS,I USE THEM SPARINGLY,DIET SODA CONSUMPTION MAYBE CAN OR 2 PER WK TOPS ,SOMETIMES NEVER.I USE 1/2 PACKET SPLENDA TOO.

My favorite soda is Ginger-ale. I never drink diet soda. I may have two sodas in a month. I don't think that little sugar will cause me much grief. I have never had a huge sugar craving. When I was a kid, I would scrape off the frosting from cake because it tasted too sweet to me. I do like good chocolates, but I generally only eat one or two pieces. Moonstruck is my favorite brand. A 4 piece box runs around $10. I am not rich enough to make a habit of buying their chocolates. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 13, 2013, 09:20:13 PM
Near where I live is Mary S. Young state park. There is an off leash area for the dogs, which the puppies really get excited about. When we went there today, only a couple of other people were about with their dogs. After cruising around the perimeter of the off leash area a couple of times, the pups and I decided to hike down a trail to the Willamette river. Coming back, we took a different trail that climbs a very steep slope with about a hundred steps. I was out of breath by the time we got to the top of the slope. All in all, we hiked for about 1.5 hours. The puppies came home and crashed on the living room sofa at 4:30 p.m. It is now 9:15 p.m and they've barely moved....no wonder I have been nodding off all evening. Weather permitting, we may go back again tomorrow for another good hike.

http://westlinnoregon.gov/parksrec/mary-s-young-park-0 (http://westlinnoregon.gov/parksrec/mary-s-young-park-0)

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 14, 2013, 06:12:54 AM
Near where I live is Mary S. Young state park. There is an off leash area for the dogs, which the puppies really get excited about. When we went there today, only a couple of other people were about with their dogs. After cruising around the perimeter of the off leash area a couple of times, the pups and I decided to hike down a trail to the Willamette river. Coming back, we took a different trail that climbs a very steep slope with about a hundred steps. I was out of breath by the time we got to the top of the slope. All in all, we hiked for about 1.5 hours. The puppies came home and crashed on the living room sofa at 4:30 p.m. It is now 9:15 p.m and they've barely moved....no wonder I have been nodding off all evening. Weather permitting, we may go back again tomorrow for another good hike.

http://westlinnoregon.gov/parksrec/mary-s-young-park-0 (http://westlinnoregon.gov/parksrec/mary-s-young-park-0)


prime thatīs great .. any form of exercise is good. just keep moving  ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 14, 2013, 06:31:44 AM
so today i will do legs... a very simple tri set....
 Warm up and Abs: I minute skipping and my rest is 30 seconds leg raises on the floor ! this i will do for 15 minutes. (alternate skipping/leg raises)

Warm up superset:
Leg extensions 3x15
leg curls 3x15

Tri-set:
squats 4x10
Front squats 4x10
Barbells Hacks 3/4 x 10

standing one legged Dumbbell calf raises 3x15-20

I find back squats first works best then i quickly strip weight off the bar on my squat racks and do front squats so itīs a bit like descending sets... then i have a bar loaded behind me and do Hacks off the floor. 2 mins rest and i load the first bar again on my squat stands for squats then do it all over again. the third set and fourth set(if i do a fourth) will be less weight due to fatigue.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 14, 2013, 08:13:55 AM
I AGREE ABOUT SWEETNERS,I USE THEM SPARINGLY,DIET SODA CONSUMPTION MAYBE CAN OR 2 PER WK TOPS ,SOMETIMES NEVER.I USE 1/2 PACKET SPLENDA TOO.
i only take some milk in my coffee and suger i use less and less these days. I very rarely drink any kind of soft drink, cola or whatever.. sweeteners taste horrible and i never touch them.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 14, 2013, 07:16:49 PM
hey guys drinking some black italian roast cofee great shoulder workout like some of alex's delt routines ,,
started side laterals love them 4x 20>35 12/10 reps...
used seated delt press machine stack type 4x 12/10 reps
another throw in front delt raise i use premade curl bar grab close and done under handed slight elbow bent x4 bar 50/60/60/60 x10
bent over rear delt cable x3

shrugs front supersetted with holding 45 lb plate each hand and pull towards rear slight then up to ears 10x10 3x around.

abs lying crunch feet elevated 4x 25 reps per set holding 10lb plate

forgot calves did someting different
standing calf raise 3 sets 30 on stack did 220x10,180x10,160x10 diffrent heavy to light great pump 90 reps less than 5 min with training partner.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2013, 03:17:50 AM
hey guys drinking some black italian roast cofee great shoulder workout like some of alex's delt routines ,,
started side laterals love them 4x 20>35 12/10 reps...
used seated delt press machine stack type 4x 12/10 reps
another throw in front delt raise i use premade curl bar grab close and done under handed slight elbow bent x4 bar 50/60/60/60 x10
bent over rear delt cable x3

shrugs front supersetted with holding 45 lb plate each hand and pull towards rear slight then up to ears 10x10 3x around.

abs lying crunch feet elevated 4x 25 reps per set holding 10lb plate
NICE ONE...maybe i should start putting in some front raises too in my Shoulder workouts...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2013, 05:31:14 AM
so today was Shoulders and arms:
Warm up was cycling home so i was sweating lightly so i started with
Abs: Hanging knee raises 3x20-25 with (superset) incline sit ups 3x20-25

Lateral raises 3x12 SUPERSET with Barbell press 3x10
bent over laterals 3x12 SUPERSET with Front raises Holding plate in my hands 3x12

Tri sets for arms :
ez bar standing curls 3x10
incline DB curl 3x10
concentration curls 3x15

Barbell close bench press 3x10
lying one arm cross face extension 3x12 per arm
one arm DB extension behind head 3x12

these tri sets going from one ex to the other really is hard...hitting the muscle group from a diffrent position. stretch,midrange,contracted positions. (or as good as i could)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 06:50:59 AM
so today was Shoulders and arms:
Warm up was cycling home so i was sweating lightly so i started with
Abs: Hanging knee raises 3x20-25 with (superset) incline sit ups 3x20-25

Lateral raises 3x12 SUPERSET with Barbell press 3x10
bent over laterals 3x12 SUPERSET with Front raises Holding plate in my hands 3x12

Tri sets for arms :
ez bar standing curls 3x10
incline DB curl 3x10
concentration curls 3x15

Barbell close bench press 3x10
lying one arm cross face extension 3x12 per arm
one arm DB extension behind head 3x12

these tri sets going from one ex to the other really is hard...hitting the muscle group from a diffrent position. stretch,midrange,contracted positions. (or as good as i could)
i do trisets evrey 3rd tri rotation,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2013, 07:04:59 AM
totally wiped out my arms...really felt the Incline curls.. was nearly better than sex... ;D  :D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 12:09:19 PM
totally wiped out my arms...really felt the Incline curls.. was nearly better than sex... ;D  :D
I LIKE THOSE ,SOME WEEKS I DO THEM EVERY BI WORKOUT,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 12:21:27 PM
totally wiped out my arms...really felt the Incline curls.. was nearly better than sex... ;D  :D

This reminds me of what "Arnold" once said. It was something like, "a good pump is better than an orgasm."
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 15, 2013, 12:34:27 PM
Was not thinking of Arnold but your 100% correct.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 12:43:10 PM
We continue to enjoy sunny and relatively warm weather here in the Pacific Northwest. It is supposed to be in the 50's F today. The sun was streaming through my bedroom window this morning at 7:30 a.m., demanding that I get up and get going which was good since my wife and I had a breakfast engagement with other retirees from where we worked. Right now, I should be writing an article for a newsletter I help with. It is due today, so I will get to it.

Yesterday, the dogs and I went Valentine's Day shopping for my wife. We bought a box of sugarless candy from See's Candies, a card and a dozen roses for our Valentine. She loved everything. She bought me a box of See's chocolates and a nice card. We fixed steak and lobster tails for dinner, accompanied by mixed vegetables. It was delicious and the lobster tails were a special treat.

While the puppies and I were out and about, we stopped at another dog park which is a couple of miles from our house. Instead of going into the off leash area, we decided to take a walk on the Stafford Basin trails. These are a series of trails which amble through an area of farms. The are paved with blacktop and fenced with split rail fencing to help discourage folks and their pets from wandering into people's private land. Eventually when the project is completed, the trails will come within a few blocks of where I live.

I took some photos of the countryside and the dogs, which I will add later since they are on my smart phone and I will need to transfer them to the computer in order to post them here.

The canines and this old guy got a good long walk in yesterday. When I get the newsletter article finished, we are headed out for another walk today. The back of my right knee is sore which must be in the tendon since it does not feel like it is the knee joint at all. It really is bothersome when climbing stairs. I hope that walking will "walk it off" and I'll be fine....getting old is sometimes the shits!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 12:45:14 PM
This reminds me of what "Arnold" once said. It was something like, "a good pump is better than an orgasm."

If memory serves me correctly, an orgasm was superior to a pump. But, to each his own.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 04:43:48 PM
any supplement/vitamins used here?i use multi,every day,and on training days arginine/creatine/glycerol just finished this,,but crea/arginine gets good pumps,,and 2 whey shakes or combo shake with other scoops whey in greek yougurt or cooked oats,,,

part 2 ,,,who's ur lifting/bbing ideal to achieve ,,for me zane/labrada type fits my build/mold....i loved arnolds chest tho,,,no homo...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 05:13:09 PM
any supplement/vitamins used here?i use multi,every day,and on training days arginine/creatine/glycerol just finished this,,but crea/arginine gets good pumps,,and 2 whey shakes or combo shake with other scoops whey in greek yougurt or cooked oats,,,

part 2 ,,,who's ur lifting/bbing ideal to achieve ,,for me zane/labrada type fits my build/mold....i loved arnolds chest tho,,,no homo...

When working out, I often add protein drinks to my diet as well as Creatine. Whether working out or not I take a multivitamin, DHEA and flax seed oil every morning. In the evening before bed, I take slow niacin, DHEA, Low-dose aspirin, Simvastatin (for high cholesterol) and Trazodone to insure a complete night's sleep. I endeavor to eat a healthy as possible and to avoid extremes when it comes to food. I am a firm believer that it isn't so much what you eat as how much that causes some people difficulty.

Frank Zane is more my age than Lee Labrada, but both have enviable physiques. There was a time when I admired guys who were really big. Lately, when I see a really huge dude, I think they aren't healthy looking. The way some of them have been getting seriously sick and even dying does give one pause. Given the choice today, I would definitely choose to have a physique like either Zane of Labrada. However, I would have to adjust for the fact that I have a much larger frame then they do.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 05:23:10 PM
When working out, I often add protein drinks to my diet as well as Creatine. Whether working out or not I take a multivitamin, DHEA and flax seed oil every morning. In the evening before bed, I take slow niacin, DHEA, Low-dose aspirin, Simvastatin (for high cholesterol) and Trazodone to insure a complete night's sleep. I endeavor to eat a healthy as possible and to avoid extremes when it comes to food. I am a firm believer that it isn't so much what you eat as how much that causes some people difficulty.

Frank Zane is more my age than Lee Labrada, but both have enviable physiques. There was a time when I admired guys who were really big. Lately, when I see a really huge dude, I think they aren't healthy looking. The way some of them have been getting seriously sick and even dying does give one pause. Given the choice today, I would definitely choose to have a physique like either Zane of Labrada. However, I would have to adjust for the fact that I have a much larger frame then they do.
nice prime u put thought into ur answers much appreciated,,,and i like your supp regimine and the other stuff u can't control as u age if needed,dr's orders i guess,,,i have a naturally lean build but developed over time big legs and can get ripped very easliy ,,i have small type joints per say not cookie cutter yeah that's me but zane is as close as a canvas as i see for me,,,everybody has unique look if taken to genetics limits of either size and or condition.i eat a lot to some and to some like a bird they say,,i like to feel comforatable not bloated to think one looks/appears big due to overaeting,,,,i have a very clear image to how i should look and thats why my workouts are always great ,,i'm not delusional trying to push or be something i cannot attain or live up to.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 15, 2013, 05:55:02 PM
nice prime u put thought into ur answers much appreciated,,,and i like your supp regimine and the other stuff u can't control as u age if needed,dr's orders i guess,,,i have a naturally lean build but developed over time big legs and can get ripped very easliy ,,i have small type joints per say not cookie cutter yeah that's me but zane is as close as a canvas as i see for me,,,everybody has unique look if taken to genetics limits of either size and or condition.i eat a lot to some and to some like a bird they say,,i like to feel comforatable not bloated to think one looks/appears big due to overaeting,,,,i have a very clear image to how i should look and thats why my workouts are always great ,,i'm not delusional trying to push or be something i cannot attain or live up to.

It took me years to get to your way of sensible thinking when it comes to bodybuilding. No doubt, I suffered from a form of body dysmorphic  disorder for years. No matter how much I weighed, or how muscular I became, I could not shake the imagine of myself as a scrawny teenager.

One evening when I had been out on the town and was headed back to my car, I sensed someone was following me. I turned to face them and told them I would beat the crap out of them if they kept following me. The fellow took off running. This was a turning point for me. I am a very mild mannered fellow. The first and last fight I had was when I was a junior in high school. It lasted all of about a minute and I lost, sustaining a nice little cut on my cheekbone. I knew the main thing that scared that possible mugger off was my attitude which was bolstered by my size. It was like reaching the peak of Mt Everest.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 15, 2013, 05:59:46 PM
It took me years to get to your way of sensible thinking when it comes to bodybuilding. No doubt, I suffered from a form of body dysmorphic  disorder for years. No matter how much I weighed, or how muscular I became, I could not shake the imagine of myself as a scrawny teenager.

One evening when I had been out on the town and was headed back to my car, I sensed someone was following me. I turned to face them and told them I would beat the crap out of them if they kept following me. The fellow took off running. This was a turning point for me. I am a very mild mannered fellow. The first and last fight I had was when I was a junior in high school. It lasted all of about a minute and I lost, sustaining a nice little cut on my cheekbone. I knew the main thing that scared that possible mugger off was my attitude which was bolstered by my size. It was like reaching the peak of Mt Everest.
i had some peaks and valleys along the way i kid u not,,thought i was superman,tried to overdo,overthink,overkill,then i got realistic and stayed the course ,i see what u mean its like saying i'm 5'8 190 lbs i am going to be arnold..u have to get balance..i remember missing workouts.or meal and sitting there worrying instead of making $ or trying to make more ..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 16, 2013, 02:47:45 AM
I have to admit i have always really looked at Bodybuilders like Steve Reeves and Frank Zane for inspiration. always liked more of a symmetrical look. Size at all costs has never really been my main goal. In fact i used weight training for a long time to supplement my martial arts training. I still go more for a muscled but shaped look as for "supplements" i have never botherd with them and because of my illness i can't digest them well..if i drink a protein shake i run to the bathroom. I have met some guys who have a big ego with their big muscles but since i saw a small boned guy put a big weight trained Rugby player in a Judo strangle hold and he was helpless i realized it's not everything. I work on being fit for as long as i can. I use everything i can, running, weights, always mixing it up.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 16, 2013, 09:50:25 AM
so today i had a relaxing swim at the local pool. nice whirpool that really relaxes you. No weight training today. If i had the time i would swim more often because i feel tired now but refreshed.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 16, 2013, 02:36:27 PM
so today i had a relaxing swim at the local pool. nice whirpool that really relaxes you. No weight training today. If i had the time i would swim more often because i feel tired now but refreshed.

The gym where I go has a large Olympic sized indoor pool. I enjoy swimming laps there, but don't do it as often as I should. There was a time in my life when I swam laps almost everyday for a half hour or so. It really helps keep one fit.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: AVBG on February 16, 2013, 02:54:56 PM
any supplement/vitamins used here?i use multi,every day,and on training days arginine/creatine/glycerol just finished this,,but crea/arginine gets good pumps,,and 2 whey shakes or combo shake with other scoops whey in greek yougurt or cooked oats,,,

part 2 ,,,who's ur lifting/bbing ideal to achieve ,,for me zane/labrada type fits my build/mold....i loved arnolds chest tho,,,no homo...

Aside from whey isolate and a greens product - no.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 16, 2013, 03:49:28 PM
Aside from whey isolate and a greens product - no.
ok..i agree a lot of bullshit out there,,unproven,effectiveness,safety...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 17, 2013, 02:23:46 AM
ok..i agree a lot of bullshit out there,,unproven,effectiveness,safety...
one of the reasons i do not buy muscle mags anymore is that they are just full of supplement ads. OK some are ok i understand that but now itīs just making big bucks out of the dreams of young people. I know this has always been so but now itīs got worse.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 17, 2013, 07:57:21 AM
leg day kept it simple,intense,did this 45 minutes pressed for time sunday catholicschool daughter,church

quads
leg press x5 sets 10 started 3 plates,4 plates,5 plates 2x 6 plates supersetted with extensions worked up to heaviest 235 stack
next superset squat x4 225/275/275/315 close stance x10 reps supersetted with walking lunges 50 lb dbells

hams
stiflegged deadlifts x4 185/235/235/235/x10 supersetted with lying leg curls x4 worked up to 145 on stack

calves
seated x3 supersetted leg press calf raise

very intense pump,great energy,heart pumping,winded a bit ;D,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 17, 2013, 08:16:26 AM
Wow....Great workout . Speeding it up is a real shock to the body..OUTSTANDING..gonna go running  soon . Make it hurt... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2013, 01:40:19 AM
so chest today and i will hit my chest with 3 pushing movements.
warm up and Abs: crunches(lower legs on bench) 3xmax Superset with leg raises (on the floor) 3xmax

flat DB press 2x10 (Superset) with Flat Flyes 2x10+
Incline DB press 2x10( superset) with incline Flyes 2x10+
Decline DB press 2x10 (superset)  with decline flyes 2x10+

I will finish off with max push ups.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 18, 2013, 06:35:44 AM
Wow....Great workout . Speeding it up is a real shock to the body..OUTSTANDING..gonna go running  soon . Make it hurt... ;D
LEGS ARE SORE TODAY DUDE,,,WHAT HAPPENED TO KAREN?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2013, 07:15:00 AM
LEGS ARE SORE TODAY DUDE,,,WHAT HAPPENED TO KAREN?
yeah i was thinking that too...where is the Baby Doll  ;D ??
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 18, 2013, 11:07:13 AM
So tonight I went for another run because tomorrow I have no time...I love the fresh air ...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 19, 2013, 03:44:31 AM
Today i worked back:
i was cycling around early today so it was a good warm up.
Abs: V-sit ups 3x30-50(this warms up my midsection and lower back.)

Close grip chins 3x max
Barbell Rows 5x10
Barbell deadlifts5 x10
One leg calf raises 5x15-20 reps per leg.

that was it and i did straight sets today because i did more sets per exercise.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 20, 2013, 02:14:24 AM
so today is shoulders:
Warm up Dumbell swing throughs and skipping (stretch of my lower back and warm up my shoulders)

Lateral raises 4x12 superset with
Barbell press4x10

bent over laterals 4x12 superset with
Nieder press 4x12
The Neider press works the front delts very hard and also chest. An unusual position to work from and i learned this exercise in the Army during Boxing training, really helps when you are tired to hold your hands up... ;)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 20, 2013, 07:33:31 PM
back
t bar row standing version chest to pad x3
hammer pulldown x3
cable low row x3
chin ups x3 inner under hand grip
finished 2x one arm dbell row 85/95 10 reps

weighted hypers

bi's
curls with straight bar 85>115 x4 10/10/8/6
seated scott curl machine x3
db curls 40lbs x3

abs
crunches holding 10lb plate 25 rep sets x3
roman chair side crunches 12 reps per side x2,,

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2013, 02:34:04 AM
This photo is for Karen. I was 29 when I had nasal reconstruction to correct a deviated septum. In this photo, I look like I was the loser in a fight. I think this is before the doctor took the packing out of my nose.
looks nasty... :o

back
t bar row standing version chest to pad x3
hammer pulldown x3
cable low row x3
chin ups x3 inner under hand grip
finished 2x one arm dbell row 85/95 10 reps

weighted hypers

bi's
curls with straight bar 85>115 x4 10/10/8/6
seated scott curl machine x3
db curls 40lbs x3

abs
crunches holding 10lb plate 25 rep sets x3
roman chair side crunches 12 reps per side x2,,


going to try these side crunches myself. solid as ever steve :) Today i will rest (well i will be biking today ) starting to snow again today i like the snow in my face and fresh wind. Thatīs good because my wife has my car and i will be on my bike today...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2013, 02:39:50 AM
also got to tonight write a CV for a job with my son. A new Gym will open near us and my son wants to learn to be a Fitness Trainer, experience he has but you need that piece of paper to do the job.. over here itīs a "B" licence. I got it too and it means nothing but you have to have the qualification here.. the gym is looking to train people and qualify them. costs a lot to do the seminars.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2013, 03:09:40 AM
 ;D saw this pic and just had to post it ----lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 21, 2013, 06:47:06 AM
;D saw this pic and just had to post it ----lol

LOL,,,GOOD ONE DONNY,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 21, 2013, 06:48:13 AM
LOL,,,GOOD ONE DONNY,,,
it made me laugh.... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 22, 2013, 06:49:25 AM
so time to blast my arms :

jump rope and Abs Crunches 3xmax.

seated DB curls  2x6-8 superset with
incline ez bar tri extensions 2x 8-10

BB curls 2x6-8 superset with
close grip bench press 2x6-8

seated concentration curls 2x12-15 superset with
one arm DB extensions seated 2x12-15

Forearms:  ez bar reverse curls 2x10+ superset with
BB wrist curls arms on thighs 2x 10+
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 22, 2013, 07:08:25 AM
delts
front press x5 135x2>185 12/5 rep scale dropped back last set to 135
side raise x4 25>35 10/10/10/10
lying rear raises x3
cable uprights with single handles x2
finished 2x reverse fr raise with curl bar front delt good pump palms up slight bend at elbow

shrugs front x3 superset 45 lb plate each hand slight rotation to rear on finish

forearms weighted rope rolls and reverse wrist curl cable bar behind back

calves standing calf raise heavy to light drops 10 reps per drop total 3x 90 reps total..

holding condition donny,,,,

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 22, 2013, 07:29:23 AM
Lookin great Man...solid pumped up physique (no Homo) ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 22, 2013, 07:37:15 AM
Lookin great Man...solid pumped up physique (no Homo) ;D
thanks ...no homo....can't wait for warmer weather to get a little sun,,i stopped tanning booths yrs ago,,,wife gave me hell everytime i went..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 22, 2013, 07:46:01 AM
thanks ...no homo....can't wait for warmer weather to get a little sun,,i stopped tanning booths yrs ago,,,wife gave me hell everytime i went..
well i tried it once or twice but to be honest itīs not for me. I mean in summer i get brown quick. i love cycling around with no shirt on and shorts.. just looks weird if you walk around in winter with a sun bed tan anyway..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 23, 2013, 01:18:40 AM
today i will hit legs:
warm up with Abs 2x50 full sit ups.

Leg extensions 3x15 Superset
leg curls lying 3x15

Tri-set:
BB squats 3x10
Front squat 3x10
BB hacks 3x10

seated BB calf raises 5x15-20
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 23, 2013, 07:39:25 AM
one of my favourites...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 23, 2013, 02:13:44 PM
heavy legs today...

squats 135,225,275,315,405,465 yes  pushed for it 4 reps wrapped phew,,,
hacks 4 plate,4.5 plates ,,5 plates 10/8 reps
standing lunges 135/185 x2
extension x3

hams lying legs curls x4 140>170 on stack 12/10/10/7

calves leg press and seated calf raise x6 sets...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 23, 2013, 04:58:07 PM
one of my favourites...


Here is what I believe is a fairly recent photo of Bill Pearl and Larry Scott. These are two of the greats from the past. Bill is 82 years old and Larry is 74 years old. Can you believe it? There are actually people around who are older than I am.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 23, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
Here is what I believe is a fairly recent photo of Bill Pearl and Larry Scott. Two greats from the past.
prime facially now u remind me of pearl,,something there,,still has that barrel chest..sad about larry looks frail but facially good,,,loved pearls build thick ,solid..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 23, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
prime facially now u remind me of pearl,,something there,,still has that barrel chest..sad about larry looks frail but facially good,,,loved pearls build thick ,solid..

Thanks, Bill was and is a nice looking fellow. I don't see the resemblance except for our coloring. I think Bill has olive-toned skin, like me. He had really dark hair though, while mine was more dirty blond. Of course we both have white hair now, he just has more on his head and I have more on my face. LOL.

Larry does appear somewhat frail. Where did his delts go? Larry Scott retired from competitive bodybuilding when he was only 28 years old. Perhaps he took his physique in a different direction after that.

Here is another photo of Larry Scott take when he as 73 years old. The other fella is Franco Columbu, another blast from the past. Franco is 71 years old.

These men have lived to a ripe old age and all still look to be fairly healthy. What do you suppose today's bodybuilders are doing different that is causing some of them to become sick and even die really young? Bodybuilder and wrestler Matt DuVall just died. He was only 40 years old.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 24, 2013, 01:18:49 AM
heavy legs today...

squats 135,225,275,315,405,465 yes  pushed for it 4 reps wrapped phew,,,
hacks 4 plate,4.5 plates ,,5 plates 10/8 reps
standing lunges 135/185 x2
extension x3

hams lying legs curls x4 140>170 on stack 12/10/10/7

calves leg press and seated calf raise x6 sets...
your a lot stronger than me...good weights :) 465...would kill me...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 24, 2013, 01:21:17 AM
 ;)  some great pics in here ...
http://www.bill-pearl.com/pictures.html
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 24, 2013, 07:16:40 AM
your a lot stronger than me...good weights :) 465...would kill me...lol
thanx donny,,,a bit sore today ,,nice feeling ,,today rest day,,tomm chest/tri
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 24, 2013, 07:32:40 AM
thanx donny,,,a bit sore today ,,nice feeling ,,today rest day,,tomm chest/tri
well outside itīs cold again the weather is changing all the time.. could just do some skipping and keep warm indoors but i canīt wimp out.. gotta go out and run, take it like a Man... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 24, 2013, 07:45:39 PM
wifes birthday celebrated a few days early her mom,bro/wife and newborn,,,we had pizza,calamari,i made great salad loaded walnuts,craisens,mozzarella,tomatoes,olives,cucumber's,and dessert.. cake,zeppoles,cappucino,espresso,,oh and some vino of course,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2013, 08:14:50 AM
wifes birthday celebrated a few days early her mom,bro/wife and newborn,,,we had pizza,calamari,i made great salad loaded walnuts,craisens,mozzarella,tomatoes,olives,cucumber's,and dessert.. cake,zeppoles,cappucino,espresso,,oh and some vino of course,,,
that sounds just what i need.... :) all the best to your wife for her Birthday...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2013, 08:20:35 AM
Today i worked chest....
10 mins jumping rope
Abs: crunches and leg raises 3xmax

I did straight sets today:
Parallel bar dips 3x 10-15
Decline Flyes 3x10-15
Incline DB press 3x10
Incline flyes 3x10-15
Push ups on the floor 1x max reps till failure ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2013, 12:04:02 PM
just got a reply back from Bill Pearl on Facebooks, he said he is doing well...and hopes the same for me...what a great Guy.. :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 25, 2013, 12:09:17 PM
just got a reply back from Bill Pearl on Facebooks, he said he is doing well...and hopes the same for me...what a great Guy.. :)
NICE,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 25, 2013, 12:17:23 PM
NICE,,,,
yeah .. a real Gentleman.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 06:14:20 AM
so today is back...
Warm up Burpees 3x 30 reps ( no need to train abs with these)

Sternum chins 3x max

Barbell rows 3x 10 superset
Dumbbell pullovers 3x15

T-Bar rows 3x10 superset
Barbell pullovers 3x15

Dumbbell shrugs 3x10-15
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 26, 2013, 09:21:23 AM
QUIET HERE DONNY LATELY...
CHEST
INC DBELL,,60/70/75/80 12/10/10/8
HAMMER LYING PRESS 2 PLATES,2 AND CHANGE,2.5 WITH DROP SET 6 THEN 7 REPS FAILED...
DB PRESS FLAT TWISTING PALMS FACING AT END MOVEMENT 70'S X3 10/9/7 LOST REPS EACH SET :P
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3 12/12/10
SUPERSET DIPS X10 WITH 25 LB DBELL IN BACK OF LEG WITH PUSHUPS X10/15 X2 SETS.....

TRI'S
ROPE EXTENSIONS OVERHEAD X4
PUSHDOWNS X3
DIP MACHINE X3
CABLE KICKBACKS X2 12 REPS EACH AND THEN STANDING CABLE EXTENSION X2
DID MORE TRI'S THAN USUAL USUALLY 10/12 SETS TOTAL ....
ABS,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 09:39:27 AM
QUIET HERE DONNY LATELY...
CHEST
INC DBELL,,60/70/75/80 12/10/10/8
HAMMER LYING PRESS 2 PLATES,2 AND CHANGE,2.5 WITH DROP SET 6 THEN 7 REPS FAILED...
DB PRESS FLAT TWISTING PALMS FACING AT END MOVEMENT 70'S X3 10/9/7 LOST REPS EACH SET :P
CABLE CROSSOVERS X3 12/12/10
SUPERSET DIPS X10 WITH 25 LB DBELL IN BACK OF LEG WITH PUSHUPS X10/15 X2 SETS.....

TRI'S
ROPE EXTENSIONS OVERHEAD X4
PUSHDOWNS X3
DIP MACHINE X3
CABLE KICKBACKS X2 12 REPS EACH AND THEN STANDING CABLE EXTENSION X2
DID MORE TRI'S THAN USUAL USUALLY 10/12 SETS TOTAL ....
ABS,,,
respect .. you are a strong guy. like i wrote before i canīt train triceps after chest. yes they are no doubt working or eating too much... ;D you know maybe i should start up Dons Boot Camp here...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 09:47:19 AM
 :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 26, 2013, 10:02:55 AM
:)
WHAT A BUILD,,,FOR SIZE OLD SCHOOL BEFORE ARNOLD HIM,,,FOR DEFINITION/SHAPE ZANE,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 10:11:09 AM
WHAT A BUILD,,,FOR SIZE OLD SCHOOL BEFORE ARNOLD HIM,,,FOR DEFINITION/SHAPE ZANE,,
yes do not get me wrong i also love Zane too as i wrote. I love his mental awareness and intelligence and i love Bill Pearl for the man he is and that he makes time for you. outstanding .
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2013, 10:55:30 AM
Have any of you ever experienced soreness in the tendons at the back of your knees. I had this issue come on a few weeks ago. It has persisted. I particularly notice it during and after climbing stairs either up or down.

This morning I did some weight free "good mornings" to see if I could stretch it out. Don't know if it made any difference yet.

I was having issues with my sciatic nerve in this same leg awhile back. I was in the car driving or at meetings sitting most of the day and evening yesterday and never developed sciatic pain. Sitting for long periods previously aggravated my sciatica. Somehow this problem has resolved itself.

Well, I'm off to take my wife to her doctor appointment and then out to breakfast. Breakfast at noon....now there is an issue.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 12:57:38 PM
http://www.medicinenet.com/sciatica/article.htm
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 26, 2013, 01:00:48 PM
hope this helps my freind... stretch it but as i have read itīs a very large nerve....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 26, 2013, 08:35:45 PM
hope this helps my freind... stretch it but as i have read itīs a very large nerve....

I was thinking that the pain is not from my sciatica, but the tendon that is somehow inflamed. Anyway, I have continued to stretch it throughout the day, which seems to be helping. My range of motion has actually improved somewhat. In a few days I will attempt toe touches. Considering the length of my arms, that should not be too big a feat.  :)

When I was having sciatica issues, the pain was very different, almost like a Charlie horse and in my hamstring not in the tendons. It would come on when I sat for too long a time, like when driving. This bothers me when I am moving about and not when I am sitting. As I mentioned stair climbing or descending is the most aggravating. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 04:47:53 AM
shoulders will get blasted today:
Warm up with Bastards( i will put a pic up) no ab training as my midsection is worked well with these.

Giant sets

Seated DB press 3x10
seated side raises 3x10
seated bent over laterals 3x10
standing nieder press with barbell 3x10-15 (works well also with a barbell plate in your hands) every serious martial artist or boxer should do these.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 12:43:59 PM
Donny,

I finally got around to checking the link you posted about sciatica. The webpage is loaded with information that I had not considered. I first started having problems with sciatica, it was after I had an issue with my lower back. The doctor diagnosed that as being caused by degenerative disk disease/arthritis in my spine. He prescribed about 8 weeks of physical therapy which I did. Not very many weeks into the therapy, the spasms subsided. I was taught how to do exercises specific to the strengthening the core muscles which affect the spine. Since doing physical therapy, I have had no recurrence of the spasms. However, it was following this episode that I started having an issue with sciatica. The problem only occurred after I was sitting for an extended time period as I previously mentioned. I was the guy people saw who pulled off to the shoulder of the road, getting out of my car and doing squats to relieve the pain. LOL!

I did not associate this latest issue of what I assumed is an inflamed tendon at the back of my knee with sciatica until I read the information you linked me to. Now it seems possible that the problem could be sciatica and has simply moved down my leg. The pain is different from what I had in my hamstring and it is nowhere near as intense as it was before. What really makes me think it could be related to sciatica is that it is in the same leg. Apparently, sciatica often only affects one leg.
 
For now, I am going to continue doing good mornings when I first get up in the morning and periodically throughout the day to keep things moving. Although I only started doing this yesterday, it seems to have already affected some improvement. This morning I did 2 sets of 10. The first set I did with my hands behind my head. Since I was getting a better stretch then yesterday, I did the second set with finger tips touching my toes. As I mentioned, I have long arms. When I can put the palms of my hands flat on the floor, I will have regained my normal flexibility.

Of course if my efforts to self treat this problem aren't successful, I will see my doctor for further advice. I am not ready to be an invalid yet, if ever!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 12:47:15 PM
I just want to go on record by saying that I have missed seeing Karen's posts here recently. I hope all is well with Karen and her family. I would have sent her and email inquiry to this effect, accept that her email address isn't available here and I don't otherwise know it.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 27, 2013, 12:49:40 PM
I just want to go on record by saying that I have missed seeing Karen's posts here recently. I hope all is well with Karen and her family. I would have sent her and email inquiry to this effect, accept that her email address isn't available here and I don't otherwise know it.
ME AS WELL...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 27, 2013, 12:56:58 PM
Guys she is on my Facebook.. gonna ask her. infact you guys should be on mine too!! Donald Smith Celle Germany.
FACE BOOK IS FOR FINNOCCHIO'S ... ;DJUST KIDDING,,,MY WIFE IS ON THERE ALL THE TIME...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 12:57:40 PM
I happened to read article in the paper today which I found very interesting. It tells about the Elder Wisdom Circle, http://www.elderwisdomcircle.org/ (http://www.elderwisdomcircle.org/) where seniors offer sage advice. I am not sure how "sage" my advice is, but I am thinking of looking into joining this group. Maybe others can learn from my mistakes and successes in life. Michael Heisler, the gentleman interviewed in the article says, "I'm not particularly smart, but I've made a lot of mistakes."  The seems a lot like me. Here is a link to the article: http://www.oregonlive.com/living/index.ssf/2013/02/through_elder_wisdom_circle_po.html (http://www.oregonlive.com/living/index.ssf/2013/02/through_elder_wisdom_circle_po.html)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 01:00:03 PM
Donny,

I finally got around to checking the link you posted about sciatica. The webpage is loaded with information that I had not considered. I first started having problems with sciatica, it was after I had an issue with my lower back. The doctor diagnosed that as being caused by degenerative disk disease/arthritis in my spine. He prescribed about 8 weeks of physical therapy which I did. Not very many weeks into the therapy, the spasms subsided. I was taught how to do exercises specific to the strengthening the core muscles which affect the spine. Since doing physical therapy, I have had no recurrence of the spasms. However, it was following this episode that I started having an issue with sciatica. The problem only occurred after I was sitting for an extended time period as I previously mentioned. I was the guy people saw who pulled off to the shoulder of the road, getting out of my car and doing squats to relieve the pain. LOL!

I did not associate this latest issue of what I assumed is an inflamed tendon at the back of my knee with sciatica until I read the information you linked me to. Now it seems possible that the problem could be sciatica and has simply moved down my leg. The pain is different from what I had in my hamstring and it is nowhere near as intense as it was before. What really makes me think it could be related to sciatica is that it is in the same leg. Apparently, sciatica often only affects one leg.
 
For now, I am going to continue doing good mornings when I first get up in the morning and periodically throughout the day to keep things moving. Although I only started doing this yesterday, it seems to have already affected some improvement. This morning I did 2 sets of 10. The first set I did with my hands behind my head. Since I was getting a better stretch then yesterday, I did the second set with finger tips touching my toes. As I mentioned, I have long arms. When I can put the palms of my hands flat on the floor, I will have regained my normal flexibility.

Of course if my efforts to self treat this problem aren't successful, I will see my doctor for further advice. I am not ready to be an invalid yet, if ever!
you are the same as me.. i never go to the Doc although i have Colitus and to be honest i never think about it . the best advice is from a Doctor and get it checked ! you are a good man and by the way where is my invatation to eat with you ?
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 01:02:17 PM
FACE BOOK IS FOR FINNOCCHIO'S ... ;DJUST KIDDING,,,MY WIFE IS ON THERE ALL THE TIME...
yeah.. i am on there and just keep in touch with my scottish friends and a few english guys ...lol
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 27, 2013, 01:06:42 PM
you are the same as me.. i never go to the Doc although i have Colitus and to be honest i never think about it . the best advice is from a Doctor and get it checked ! you are a good man and by the way where is my invatation to eat with you ?
COLITIS IS TOUGH,,,MY BROTHER IN LAW IS RECOVERING FROM COLITIS/CANCER SURGERY OK,,BOTH ILLNESS'S RELIEVED ,HE HAS TO WEAR BAG FOR REST OF LIFE THO...THEY REROUTED HIS STOMACH AND CLOSED HIS REAR END FOR GOOD,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 01:09:15 PM
FACE BOOK IS FOR FINNOCCHIO'S ... ;DJUST KIDDING,,,MY WIFE IS ON THERE ALL THE TIME...

My wife has no interest in Facebook. I have a Facebook page where my close friends and family who are spread all over the world and I often communicate. I check in at least once most days.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 01:17:54 PM
you are the same as me.. i never go to the Doc although i have Colitus and to be honest i never think about it . the best advice is from a Doctor and get it checked ! you are a good man and by the way where is my invatation to eat with you ?

It is a standing invitation. I thought you knew this. We have a large home and welcome guests when our kids aren't in town and occupying the extra bedrooms. For dinner last night we had spaghetti and meatballs, accompanied by a salad and some bread sticks. It was semi-homemade. The meatballs were packaged as was the sauce and frozen bread sticks (identical to those at Olive Garden). The salad was completely homemade with tomatoes, avocados and a sesame ginger dressing. We only fixed enough for two, but if we knew you were coming to dinner, we'd have fixed more. Heck, I might even have gone to the trouble of making the meatballs and sauce from scratch. I make some mean meatballs. I think I was an Italian chef in a previous life. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 01:26:37 PM
It is a standing invitation. I thought you knew this. We have a large home and welcome guests when our kids aren't in town and occupying the extra bedrooms. For dinner last night we had spaghetti and meatballs, accompanied by a salad and some bread sticks. It was semi-homemade. The meatballs were packaged as was the sauce and frozen bread sticks (identical to those at Olive Garden). The salad was completely homemade with tomatoes, avocados and a sesame ginger dressing. We only fixed enough for two, but if we knew you were coming to dinner, we'd have fixed more. Heck, I might even have gone to the trouble of making the meatballs and sauce from scratch. I make some mean meatballs. I think I was an Italian chef in a previous life. LOL!
i swear that i will come over to you..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 27, 2013, 01:34:48 PM
wrote to karen she is ok.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 27, 2013, 06:22:51 PM
wrote to karen she is ok.

Good to know. I hope you gave her a good talking to about not letting us know she was simply taking a break. As an old man, one of my "jobs" is to worry about you younger folks. LOL!
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 28, 2013, 06:55:02 AM
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CHINS X3 SETS 12 ...GOOD PUMP START BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE TOUGHER THAN USUAL FELT TIRED THIS WORKOUT/LOWER BACK STILL RECOVERING FROM SAT'S LEG DAY WITH 465 SQUAT LOWER BACK WHICH IS 100 PCT ALWAYS FELT OFF :'(..
TBAR ROW INNER GRIP X3 3 PLATES,3.5X2 12/10/1O AGAIN THIS IS WHERE I KNEW I WAS OFF FELT REAL HEAVY USUALLY HIT 4 PLATES
REVERSE HAMMER PULL X3 12/8/8 2 PLATES AND THEN 2 PLATES AND 10/5 ADDED X2
LOW CABLE ROW WITH WIDE BAR X3
FINISHED ROPE ATTACHED STEP BACK AND STRETCH AND PULL TO WAIST LIKE A STANDING PULLOVER X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 WITH 45LB PLATE

BI'S
CURLS WITH STRAIGHT BAR X3 GOT UP TO 115 X7 HEAVIEST SET
DB CURLS X3 35/40/40
SEATED CABLE CURLS SINGLE ARM X3

ABS
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 28, 2013, 07:13:25 AM
BACK
CHINS X3 SETS 12 ...GOOD PUMP START BUT FOR SOME REASON THEY WERE TOUGHER THAN USUAL FELT TIRED THIS WORKOUT/LOWER BACK STILL RECOVERING FROM SAT'S LEG DAY WITH 465 SQUAT LOWER BACK WHICH IS 100 PCT ALWAYS FELT OFF :'(..
TBAR ROW INNER GRIP X3 3 PLATES,3.5X2 12/10/1O AGAIN THIS IS WHERE I KNEW I WAS OFF FELT REAL HEAVY USUALLY HIT 4 PLATES
REVERSE HAMMER PULL X3 12/8/8 2 PLATES AND THEN 2 PLATES AND 10/5 ADDED X2
LOW CABLE ROW WITH WIDE BAR X3
FINISHED ROPE ATTACHED STEP BACK AND STRETCH AND PULL TO WAIST LIKE A STANDING PULLOVER X3

WEIGHTED HYPERS X3 WITH 45LB PLATE

BI'S
CURLS WITH STRAIGHT BAR X3 GOT UP TO 115 X7 HEAVIEST SET
DB CURLS X3 35/40/40
SEATED CABLE CURLS SINGLE ARM X3

ABS

yes i know what you mean.. makes you wonder how some of the old school guys trained heavy and 3 days a week only usually having 1 day off between workouts.Today i am resting but will later go for a run..
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 28, 2013, 08:20:43 AM
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 yes i know what you mean.. makes you wonder how some of the old school guys trained heavy and 3 days a week only usually having 1 day off between workouts.Today i am resting but will later go for a run..
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I am not sure they trained with the same finesse that many body builders do today. I remember routines being much simpler back then when I also trained only three times a week and supposedly trained my whole body each time. Everything seemed like it was in threes; one often did 3 sets of 10. It was not uncommon to work each muscle group with just one exercise, especially the larger muscles. Many bodybuilders physiques were less detailed then those of bodybuilder today. There is a science to bodybuilding and that science has advanced over the years. Also, most bodybuilders featured back in the day were younger men as opposed who you see today, acknowledging that there were more mature exceptions like Vince Gironda who founded Vince's Gym in North Hollywood, CA.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 28, 2013, 08:21:16 AM
HAVE DELTS/CALVES TONITE DESCRIPTION WILL BE MUCH SIMPLER THAN BACK AND HOPEFULLY LESS STRESSFUL ,,I FEEL GREAT TODAY OTHERWISE,,,BACK TENDER FROM TRAINING,,,BUT RIGHT SORENESS FOR THE VOLUME,LOWER BACK LOOSENED FROM REST /SLEEP.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 28, 2013, 10:16:33 AM
HAVE DELTS/CALVES TONITE DESCRIPTION WILL BE MUCH SIMPLER THAN BACK AND HOPEFULLY LESS STRESSFUL ,,I FEEL GREAT TODAY OTHERWISE,,,BACK TENDER FROM TRAINING,,,BUT RIGHT SORENESS FOR THE VOLUME,LOWER BACK LOOSENED FROM REST /SLEEP.
sometimes i throw in a days rest when i feel i need it like today. I felt a bit tired today...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on February 28, 2013, 10:23:38 AM
I am not sure they trained with the same finesse that many body builders do today. I remember routines being much simpler back then when I also trained only three times a week and supposedly trained my whole body each time. Everything seemed like it was in threes; one often did 3 sets of 10. It was not uncommon to work each muscle group with just one exercise, especially the larger muscles. Many bodybuilders physiques were less detailed then those of bodybuilder today. There is a science to bodybuilding and that science has advanced over the years. Also, most bodybuilders featured back in the day were younger men as opposed who you see today, acknowledging that there were more mature exceptions like Vince Gironda who founded Vince's Gym in North Hollywood, CA.
yes a full bodyworkout really does tax you fully and in some ways harder than a split routine. I used to do it like you wrote above, one basic move per muscle group. I always found that muscles like my calfes sufferd because i always just gave them a few sets at the end. This is where the split is better because you can pay more attention to detail...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on February 28, 2013, 03:22:46 PM
I read somewhere that the reason calves are so difficult to develop is because we use them all the time so they are constantly being exercised. I would think this would apply to all the leg muscles, but apparently we use some more than others. No matter how much I exercise my calves they stay at a solid 15.5". Maybe I should work on shrinking everything else around them so they will look big by comparison. I do have rather thin ankles, but my feet have always been huge. 
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on February 28, 2013, 07:03:16 PM
I read somewhere that the reason calves are so difficult to develop is because we use them all the time so they are constantly being exercised. I would think this would apply to all the leg muscles, but apparently we use some more than others. No matter how much I exercise my calves they stay at a solid 15.5". Maybe I should work on shrinking everything else around them so they will look big by comparison. I do have rather thin ankles, but my feet have always been huge. 
i do alot of weight ,stretch reps,supersets,squeeze at top,slow to somewhat quicker type reps,,,some drop sets with set increasing weight sets too like 3 sets with weights increased each set but keeping reps high 10 reps to a total 30 rep set...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 01, 2013, 05:24:34 AM
i do alot of weight ,stretch reps,supersets,squeeze at top,slow to somewhat quicker type reps,,,some drop sets with set increasing weight sets too like 3 sets with weights increased each set but keeping reps high 10 reps to a total 30 rep set...
drops sets or Descending sets i never do...maybe thatīs a mistake.. might do them on my leg workout.. maybe even with squats... can get my 2 sons to strip weight of the bar for say 3 drop sets...maybe even just 2 if the intensity is high...in fact Steve you got me thinking here... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 01, 2013, 05:40:03 AM
Today i will work arms:
warm up and Abs: Crunches SUPERSET with Rev Crunch 3xmax
 Supersets:
Incline DB curls 3x8-10
incline EZ bar french press 3x8-10

BB curls 3x8-10
Close grip Benches 3x10

Concentration curls 3x12-15
seated 1 arm Tri Extensions 3x12-15

Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 01, 2013, 05:45:47 AM
I read somewhere that the reason calves are so difficult to develop is because we use them all the time so they are constantly being exercised. I would think this would apply to all the leg muscles, but apparently we use some more than others. No matter how much I exercise my calves they stay at a solid 15.5". Maybe I should work on shrinking everything else around them so they will look big by comparison. I do have rather thin ankles, but my feet have always been huge. 
i did read this too, was it Reg Park who said this?(he used massive weight in standing raises). Good to see you on Facebook.. ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 01, 2013, 09:21:38 AM
DELTS
DB PRESS 45/50/55/60/65 12/10
FRONT PRESS SUPERSET WITH SIDE LATERALS
CABLE HI PULL REAR TRAP UPPER AND REAR DELT WITH SMALL CABLE BAR USED FOR LOW PULLY ROW PULL TO CHEST
2 SETS UPRIGHTS
2 SETS FRONT RAISE CURL BAR UNDERHANDED GRIP REVERSE

SHRUGS
FOREARMS ROPE ROLL OVER AND UNDER
BEHIND BACK CABLE WRIST CURL

CALVES STANDING CALF RAISES
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 02, 2013, 03:23:58 AM
DELTS
DB PRESS 45/50/55/60/65 12/10
FRONT PRESS SUPERSET WITH SIDE LATERALS
CABLE HI PULL REAR TRAP UPPER AND REAR DELT WITH SMALL CABLE BAR USED FOR LOW PULLY ROW PULL TO CHEST
2 SETS UPRIGHTS
2 SETS FRONT RAISE CURL BAR UNDERHANDED GRIP REVERSE

SHRUGS
FOREARMS ROPE ROLL OVER AND UNDER
BEHIND BACK CABLE WRIST CURL

CALVES STANDING CALF RAISES
looking good as always  :)
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 02, 2013, 03:40:05 AM
so legs today:
jump rope and 3x50 full sit ups.

Leg extensions 5x15 (superset)
leg curls 5x15

Squats 5x10 (the last set i will do drop sets and i will try for 3 drops in weight) so therefor my routine today will be intensive enough for me with just Barbell squats. I never do drop sets so it will be wise for me to break in easy today... ;D

seated Barbell calf raises 5x15+
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 02, 2013, 04:01:22 PM
good workout donny,,,,

legs today
leg press warmed up 2 plate's then jumped 4,5,6,7,reps all 10 or as high as 12
hacks 3 plates ,4 plates,5 plates all 10 or more reps
lunges 45 lb plate each hand up,down,up, down flight stairs x2
leg extensions 220 15,235 x12,250 x12

hams stiff legged 135 x12,185 x10,235 x10 usually 275 but last leg workout with 465 squat was tough one,,lower back heavy week with back too.leg curls x3

calved supersett 10 reps legs press with 10 reps seated calf raise 3 plates per side press and 3 plates on seated front loaded calf raise...did 3.5 plates on 3rd set of the leg press extra gusto,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 03, 2013, 12:08:44 AM
At this moment, I am a bit high on scotch. My right knee and lower right leg is feeling no pain or any other discomfort. Not that I am recommending scotch as a treatment for whatever ails me. It does make me wonder though, if I am just being a baby about this or if there is something really wrong with my leg.

I hate getting old. Today, I spoke with my sister. She is fifteen years junior to me. She is suffering from COPD and she sounds horrible on the phone. My other sister died a couple of years ago from lung cancer. She was a smoker. Our mother was a very heavy smoker who died from emphysema at the young age of sixty-one. My sisters and I were exposed to her heavy smoking habit, but they more then me for more reasons then I care to go into here. Anyway, I wonder how much our mom's  habitual smoking habit affected them and for that matter my step-dad who died from lung cancer despite the fact that he mainly smoked cigars and never inhaled. I wonder what saved me, well back then among other things I was very much an outdoor kid. Furthermore, I was not exposed to my mom's smoking habit for several years when I was very young because I did not live with her.  
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2013, 05:49:01 AM
good workout donny,,,,

legs today
leg press warmed up 2 plate's then jumped 4,5,6,7,reps all 10 or as high as 12
hacks 3 plates ,4 plates,5 plates all 10 or more reps
lunges 45 lb plate each hand up,down,up, down flight stairs x2
leg extensions 220 15,235 x12,250 x12

hams stiff legged 135 x12,185 x10,235 x10 usually 275 but last leg workout with 465 squat was tough one,,lower back heavy week with back too.leg curls x3

calved supersett 10 reps legs press with 10 reps seated calf raise 3 plates per side press and 3 plates on seated front loaded calf raise...did 3.5 plates on 3rd set of the leg press extra gusto,,,
you put the work in your leg workouts thatīs for sure and your calfes too!! my workout yesterday was short but still hurt...lol
At this moment, I am a bit high on scotch. My right knee and lower right leg is feeling no pain or any other discomfort. Not that I am recommending scotch as a treatment for whatever ails me. It does make me wonder though, if I am just being a baby about this or if there is something really wrong with my leg.

I hate getting old. Today, I spoke with my sister. She is fifteen years junior to me. She is suffering from COPD and she sounds horrible on the phone. My other sister died a couple of years ago from lung cancer. She was a smoker. Our mother was a very heavy smoker who died from emphysema at the young age of sixty-one. My sisters and I were exposed to her heavy smoking habit, but they more then me for more reasons then I care to go into here. Anyway, I wonder how much our mom's  habitual smoking habit affected them and for that matter my step-dad who died from lung cancer despite the fact that he mainly smoked cigars and never inhaled. I you wonder what saved me, well then among other things I was very much an outdoor kid. Furthermore, I was not exposed to my mom's smoking habit for several years when I was very young because I did not live with her.   
i think you have to just try to stay positive while you are here..i know a few guys who died very early in their 20s and 30s...just enjoy the scotch Jay... ;D fraid i canīt drink it...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2013, 05:56:55 AM
so...nice fresh breeze outside, will go with a friend running. looked in the new Gym just opening near us the other night while running past. spoke to the Boss and 2 girls who will work in there. Itīs going to open Monday tomorrow( itīs now 14.53 in Germany ) on Sunday. not bad size and brand new equipment. One of the girls was a cute blond.. ;) just the right age for my son... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 03, 2013, 07:31:43 AM
hey guys off day legs sore,,,italian homeade dinner today spaghetti,homeade sauce/meatball's/wife makes garlic bread too better than resteraunt/pizzaria,,,and vino too...donny/jay feel good,get moving enjoy today,,,,
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2013, 11:32:19 AM
hey guys off day legs sore,,,italian homeade dinner today spaghetti,homeade sauce/meatball's/wife makes garlic bread too better than resteraunt/pizzaria,,,and vino too...donny/jay feel good,get moving enjoy today,,,,
you have a good time too...i had a great run...got my old pumper working hard... ;D
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Primemuscle on March 03, 2013, 12:49:54 PM
you put the work in your leg workouts thatīs for sure and your calfes too!! my workout yesterday was short but still hurt...lol i think you have to just try to stay positive while you are here..i know a few guys who died very early in their 20s and 30s...just enjoy the scotch Jay... ;D fraid i canīt drink it...

I just read what I posted last night. Obviously, I was having a period of melancholia. I am back to normal today.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 03, 2013, 01:43:13 PM
Don't worry big Jay....we all have these moments....
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 04, 2013, 06:01:26 AM
 Chest workout today is:

30 Burpees and Reverse crunches 3xmax.

Parallel bar dips 2xmax superset with
Decline DB flyes 2x10-12

Flat DB press 2x10 Superset with
Flat DB flyes 2x10-12

Incline DB press 2x10 Superset with
Incline DB Flyes 2x10-12

later tonight a 45 min run.
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 04, 2013, 07:36:50 AM
Chest workout today is:

30 Burpees and Reverse crunches 3xmax.

Parallel bar dips 2xmax superset with
Decline DB flyes 2x10-12

Flat DB press 2x10 Superset with
Flat DB flyes 2x10-12

Incline DB press 2x10 Superset with
Incline DB Flyes 2x10-12

later tonight a 45 min run.
I HAVE CHEST 2 NITE,,MY DINNER WITH 1/2 BOTTLE WINE I DRANK I FEEL IT TODAY AT WORK,ALSO MADE NICE ANTIPASTO AS WELL MOZZARELLA,PROVOLONE,OLIVES,ROASTED PEPPERS,ARTICHOKES
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: Donny on March 04, 2013, 11:19:10 AM
I HAVE CHEST 2 NITE,,MY DINNER WITH 1/2 BOTTLE WINE I DRANK I FEEL IT TODAY AT WORK,ALSO MADE NICE ANTIPASTO AS WELL MOZZARELLA,PROVOLONE,OLIVES,ROASTED PEPPERS,ARTICHOKES
you and jay should get together... ;D got to admit i canīt handle it anymore drinking and the next day working...i aint 18 anymore. Used to at that age drink all night party and go in Brothels( just looking at the Girls ) get in camp shower, breakfast and still stand to attention on parade...lol well i had a great run tonight pushed it abit harder. wrapped up well and really sweated. Itīs like 20 rep squats because itīs in your mind..my lungs were bustin but i always find the strength do get up that hill..then the second hill...
Title: Re: The Mature thread
Post by: njflex on March 04, 2013, 07:55:04 PM
chest
fdb press 60/70/80/85/90/90 12/6 reps...
hammer press sit up lower /mid chest x3 2 plate.2.5,3 plates
inc press 185/185/195 8/8/6
cable crossovers x3
superset dips/pushups x2..

tri's triset extension machine,pushdown,reverse grip pushdown x3 30 reps set...
cable kick backs