The Mature thread

[Primemuscle]

Technically, Steve is copying me because he posted up his routine at 10:39 p.m. his time and it is only 9:27p.m. my time and I am about to post up my routine for today....just saying.  

Worked delts, traps and abs today

Weight 207 (comes back face with all the protein shakes)

Hammer delt press, 5X15-3 @ 90-180 (didn't reduce the weight, but also didn't so a many reps on the last two sets as normal).
Nautilus seated side lateral raise, 5-15-8 @ 85-125
Body Masters rear delts, 4X15-8 @ 60-90
Dumbbell side laterals, 4X15-8 @ 10-17.5 ea. side
Hammer shrugs, 4X15-10 @ 90-230
Cable upright rows, 3X15-12 @ 77-104
Fast Track, 1X25 @ 10 lbs. X 3 positions
Nautilus Rotary Torso, 1X25 @ 60 each side
Nautilus ab crunches, 2X25 @ 80-90
Nautilus low back, 2X25 @ 80-90

Nautilus one leg, leg extensions, 5X25-8 @ 50-65 (gotta keep that knee healthy, although my quads were already sore from Tuesday.

[Primemuscle]

Well said.  This needs to go in Gal and No Ones book.  

With minor changes here and there, I am back doing the routine I was doing before the bronchitis. I do however add in an exercise here and drop one there, so the routine is always in a state of flux. Right now I am really concentrating on legs working them a little more than normal. When I get them up some, I'll switch to delts or arms.

Maybe it is just me, but Gal and No One seem to be stuck on one thing....the diet thing. I frankly do not believe there is a single diet plan that works for every person. We are all different, what works for them (if it does) may not work for me or you. To lose weight, one must basically burn more calories then they consume. Each day is a different story. Some days folks burn more calories then others which is fine as long as over time you aren't taking in more calories then your losing. If you do less, eat less. These last few weeks I cut out protein drinks and cut back on my food because I was flat out with bronchitis. Now I am eating again. The formula is just that simple for me. Am I oversimplifying it?

Incidentally, I am not trying to look shredded, just fit.

[Donny]

With minor changes here and there, I am back doing the routine I was doing before the bronchitis. I do however add in an exercise here and drop one there, so the routine is always in a state of flux. Right now I am really concentrating on legs working them a little more than normal. When I get them up some, I'll switch to delts or arms.

Maybe it is just me, but Gal and No One seem to be stuck on one thing....the diet thing. I frankly do not believe there is a single diet plan that works for every person. We are all different, what works for them (if it does) may not work for me or you. To lose weight, one must basically burn more calories then they consume. Each day is a different story. Some days folks burn more calories then others which is fine as long as over time you aren't taking in more calories then your losing. If you do less, eat less. These last few weeks I cut out protein drinks and cut back on my food because I was flat out with bronchitis. Now I am eating again. The formula is just that simple for me. Am I oversimplifying it?

Incidentally, I am not trying to look shredded, just fit.

like me...i want to stay in shape and Keep my weight down. I like to stay fitter than the average 47 year old. I watched my Fathers health decline with Heart Problems...believe me watching your own Father have a heart attack in front of you is not nice. He got so bad he could not walk far without a "breather"... believe me being all round fit is my main Goal and is important. I believe i could still pass an Army BFT(Basic Fitness test) in lightweights and Boots like we used to do.. now they run in Training shoes. Talking of which i will go later for a run. I just did arms at home....

parallel bar Dips 4xmax
lying tricep extensions(ez bar) 4x12 bringing the bar to my forehead to get more medial and lateral Stimulation. you can get more Stretch bringing the bar behind the head for the Long head.
One arm tricep extensions behind head(Db) 4x12 (hitting the Long head)

Seated ez bar preacher curls 4x10
seated DB curls 4x10
Reverse ez bar curls 3x12-15

crunches on floor/bycycle crunches......

[Donny]

To answer the Age old question ....what does a Scotsman wear under his Kilt...? 

[Primemuscle]

like me...i want to stay in shape and Keep my weight down. I like to stay fitter than the average 47 year old. I watched my Fathers health decline with Heart Problems...believe me watching your own Father have a heart attack in front of you is not nice. He got so bad he could not walk far without a "breather"... believe me being all round fit is my main Goal and is important.

If the desire to be fit is manifested into action, then the results will be there for you in most cases. I have little issue with growing old....like what difference would it make if I did, since it is happening anyway. As long a I am fit, I will be happy. Like you, I am willing to put forth the effort to maintain my fitness. Looking better is just icing on the cake (albeit a cake made from protein powder, LOL).

Like your dad, my wife is on a "breather" assuming you mean oxygen. She is tied to oxygen support 24/7. Without it, she probably wouldn't live very long. She's never had a heart attack, but she has nearly everything else possible wrong with her health. I love her, but I wouldn't trade places with her. I cannot imagine me living like she does. Being healthy, fit and slim has been her lifelong dream. She just never found the way or put in the effort to make it a reality, despite my example. And to be fair, maybe her health would have been poor anyway. We are not all lucky in this respect.

My biological parents were fairly fit although they each had some really bad habits. My mom's main exercise was swimming in her pool or in the ocean when she was younger. Her mainstay diet was coffee and cigarettes. My father was a beanpole. Through most of his 20's he weighed in the 160's and 170's and he was 6' 5" tall. Since I didn't know him after I was 8 years old, I have no idea how he faired physically as he got older. He smoked and drank. He died young of stomach cancer, which might suggest he drank too much. As it stands, I have outlived both my parents as each of them died at 61 years of age.

[Primemuscle]

To answer the Age old question ....what does a Scotsman wear under his Kilt...?  

I've seen this photo before. It is pretty funny. I assume it is not morphed. Traditionally, nothing is worn under a kilt. -Must be nice to not have sweaty balls in the summer.  

Here is another couple of blokes enjoying the breeze.

Ever wonder what a sweet lass wears under her kilt? 

[njflex]

45 yrs old july 13 few hrs away jersey time,,,,keep on chiseling as long as father time allows,,,,

[Primemuscle]

45 yrs old july 13 few hrs away jersey time,,,,keep on chiseling as long as father time allows,,,,

Let me be the first to wish you a happy birthday then. I remember 45, it was a great year. It will be for you too.

[Donny]

Happy birthday Steve.....all the best to you

[Donny]

a healthy cake for you my friend....

[jpm101]

Steve, congrats on your birthday.  As you know, 45 is the new 25.

Just wondering about the above picture of you. You shown some pretty outstanding forearm development in the past (goose neck pose). This picture show fairly average forearms. Even with a standard pose like that, the forearms should be more impressive...bad lighting? Considering the size of your biceps, and all

[njflex]

Steve, congrats on your birthday.  As you know, 45 is the new 25.

Just wondering about the above picture of you. You shown some pretty outstanding forearm development in the past (goose neck pose). This picture show fairly average forearms. Even with a standard pose like that, the forearms should be more impressive...bad lighting? Considering the size of your biceps, and all

yeah noticed that too,some reason smaller on top area in that shot,,,my inners are thicker it seems ,,,pretty small wrists as well,,but yeah your observation is merited,,,

[jpm101]

njFlex

Than I stand corrected. 

Keep that variety of training workouts going, seems to be doing you quite well.

[njflex]

njFlex

Than I stand corrected. 

Keep that variety of training workouts going, seems to be doing you quite well.

no problem,,i can not stand sensless arguments especially over lifting/bbing what u see or not see,we are all genetically inferior to an extent and need to improve each bodypart from other better body parts to improve and keep the illission intact or moving foward,,it is a never ending process,,one i thoroughly enjoy after 20 or so odd yrs never stopping...the workouts have been refreshing over the normal set in set out ,,or i have this many reps to get or such in such rest times betwwen sets,you have to run the gammit or body will become complacent..you have been ok to me thus far and have not directed anything unwarranted that i would not consider as fact or not in terms of my training or build...

[jpm101]

njFlex

When you loose that hunger in the belly and workouts become more like labor, than fun, it's just about over. Switching up, like you do, most always gives renewed interest to training. It can be a life time journey, where BB'ing is concerned. We should all be enjoying the ride.

[njflex]

njFlex

When you loose that hunger in the belly and workouts become more like labor, than fun, it's just about over. Switching up, like you do, most always gives renewed interest to training. It can be a life time journey, where BB'ing is concerned. We should all be enjoying the ride.

this true man,,,,by taking the drug equation out it at least keeps the up/downs out of the picture,the depression from being i was bigger/harder/fuller/better and doing cycle to cyle or yrs/decades,2nd part is as a clean lifter u stay the same give or take how lean you want or softer as u try to gain as a clean/natural and how boring that could be as well but u have to chose a road,the 1st road i did and got off just because the reason i knew and still know guys using 'stuff for 2 decades,,,

[Donny]

oh God he is back...

[Donny]

This is an exercise that few seem to do now and an almost forgotten Variation of lunges. I use Dumbbells when i do These.

[Primemuscle]

this true man,,,,by taking the drug equation out it at least keeps the up/downs out of the picture,the depression from being i was bigger/harder/fuller/better and doing cycle to cyle or yrs/decades,2nd part is as a clean lifter u stay the same give or take how lean you want or softer as u try to gain as a clean/natural and how boring that could be as well but u have to chose a road,the 1st road i did and got off just because the reason i knew and still know guys using 'stuff for 2 decades,,,

-Good choice! Loading up on roids and other PED's may work for awhile because our bodies can take a fair bit of punishment and still do okay, but more and more often we see folks literally dying to get big or stay big. That's just crazy shit.

Moderation and variety are key to longevity and success in being forever fit. At 45 you look excellent. In fact you look great for a man of any age. Clearly, you don't need artificial means to achieve success, you already have it.

Yeah I know from experience that for some folks, like me, a little boost early on from some PED's will get you over the hump and keep you there long after you've moved on to bodybuilding more naturally. And I cannot really claim to be natural since I am on TRT, albeit a miniscule dosage.

[Donny]

nothing against people who use drugs but not for me thank you ...

[oldtimer1]

There are guys that cycle on an off for decades. When they quit due to health, finances or arrest they all look like crap. Nothing is lower than a guy who denies using because he wants all the credit for his physique.

Maybe it's just me but I can't understand how looking buff is so important to your self esteem that you would risk health by sticking a syringe in your ass so another guy can say your arms are looking good.  I train with nothing. I won't be able to come in last in a small contest but I will look in shape and healthy. I think bodybuilding fans have a warped thoughts on what a good physique is. I was watching a MMA fight with a leaned conditioned physique and a bodybuilding fan said he doesn't even look like he trains.

I'm slowing down in my mid 50's and I know if I did a cycle I could get my photos preserved for ever. What's important is how you look every day and not photos at the end of a cycle.

[Donny]

There are guys that cycle on an off for decades. When they quit due to health, finances or arrest they all look like crap. Nothing is lower than a guy who denies using because he wants all the credit for his physique.

Maybe it's just me but I can't understand how looking buff is so important to your self esteem that you would risk health by sticking a syringe in your ass so another guy can say your arms are looking good.  I train with nothing. I won't be able to come in last in a small contest but I will look in shape and healthy. I think bodybuilding fans have a warped thoughts on what a good physique is. I was watching a MMA fight with a leaned conditioned fighter and a bodybuilding fan said he doesn't even look like he trains.

I'm slowing down in my mid 50's and I know if I did a cycle I could get my photos preserved for ever. What's important is how you look every day and not at the end of a cycle.

great post...it's about quality of life and being fit later in life too.

[Primemuscle]

Friday I worked chest.

Weight 208 (seem to be getting right back up there).

Feeling really sore from both the back and deltoid workouts, so I decided to use more Nautilus equipment then usual.

Nautilus flat bench press, 5X15-8 @ 90-150
Nautilus incline bench press, 4X12-6 @ 90-145
Hammer decline press, 5X15-6 @ 90-180
Nautilus dips, 3X12-8 @ 135-175
Nautilus fly, 4X15-6 @ 60-120
Nautilus pullovers, 3X15-10 @ 120-140
Body Masters fly, 3X15-12 @ 80

Felt pretty good and finished in 45 minutes. Not too sore today either.

Not going to workout on Saturday or Sunday this time, in fact I may do this for the rest of the summer just to have more time for other things during our great summer weather. Worked in the yard so far today. It will be a challenge for me to figure out my routine on this schedule, but I think I can handle it okay. My quads are still tender from the extra leg extensions I did this week. I may try some lunges out front on the sidewalk just to give the neighbors a show.  

[oldtimer1]

Ran 2 miles in the heat today. Then I drank beer by the pool. Going to start being serious on Monday. Okay maybe the week after.    I really want to do good in a charity 5K road race in September.  I will be slim but hopefully muscular in great running shape. I'm finished I think with the perma bulker look. 

[Primemuscle]

There are guys that cycle on an off for decades. When they quit due to health, finances or arrest they all look like crap. Nothing is lower than a guy who denies using because he wants all the credit for his physique.

Maybe it's just me but I can't understand how looking buff is so important to your self esteem that you would risk health by sticking a syringe in your ass so another guy can say your arms are looking good.  I train with nothing. I won't be able to come in last in a small contest but I will look in shape and healthy. I think bodybuilding fans have a warped thoughts on what a good physique is. I was watching a MMA fight with a leaned conditioned fighter and a bodybuilding fan said he doesn't even look like he trains.

I'm slowing down in my mid 50's and I know if I did a cycle I could get my photos preserved for ever. What's important is how you look every day and not at the end of a cycle.

I completely agree with everything you've said.

The hard truth is that once a person gets away from the hardcore bodybuilding scene and among regular fit people, they start to realize looking like Cutler or some others not only isn't normal, doing what they have to do to get there, isn't healthy.

I just want to be fit. At 68 years of age, I am not likely going to be seen in public in a banana hammock anytime soon. Some guys keep competing forever it seems and if that makes them happy, well then good for them. I never competed and I likely never will because that's never been my goal.

I do think it is important to differentiate between someone doing a bodybuilding cycle and someone who actually needs some help being fit. Not to make excuses, but my first "cycle" and a couple after that were at the suggestion of my parents' family physician because I was so puny. It had nothing to do with bodybuilding. In fact the doctor never mentioned bodybuilding or weight training to me back then when I was 16. I wish he had, I probably would have benefited from it had I started with the weights a bit earlier. I've only done two short cycles as an adult and a person who lifts, one at 29 with a doctor's prescription and one several years ago using the same low dose the doctor prescribed, although I purchased the D-bol on my own.

As luck would have it (maybe bad luck in this case), I suffer from low testosterone levels today. I may have had this condition for years and never knew it because my doctors never thought to check. Anyway, I am currently on TRT and I would imagine will be for the rest of my life. This means I am not "natural" in the literal sense when it comes to bodybuilding, but it hardly means I am doing drugs to get huge either.