The Mature thread

[njflex]

delts
db press x4 50/60/65/55
side raise machine ,,70/80/90/....95 drop75/55 10 reps per
lying rear delt raise 25's x3
front raise' underhand 'premade curl bar..50/60/70

bis
curls straight bar..85/105/115..10/8/6
seated curl machine x3 single arm
inc db curl...30/40/40..10/10/8
hammers sets 10 x2 40's

foreams
rope rolls x3
cable reverse curls x4

[Donny]

arms/abs....

supersets

Seated Dumbbell curls 3 sets with
incline ez bar extensions (my favourite Tri ex)

Barbell curls 3 sets with
Close grip Bench press

DB concentration curls 3 sets with
one arm behind head DB extensions

Abs: crunch SS with Leg raises 3 sets

[Donny]

well...quite day today for me. Going to sit outside get a bit of sun. Face and arms got a good bit of sun in the last few Days..  first i am going out to get some shopping in and some Corona Beer  what the hell itīs  Saturday !

[njflex]

well...quite day today for me. Going to sit outside get a bit of sun. Face and arms got a good bit of sun in the last few Days..  first i am going out to get some shopping in and some Corona Beer  what the hell itīs  Saturday !

nice here finally too

[Donny]

nice here finally too

yes... enjoying it... my Face is looking quite Brown... Iīll train tomorrow, go for a run and some abs.

[oldtimer1]

Really depends, usually I do a heavy lift first then the rest 10 rep lifts. Example would be back day today. ...I will go to 635-675 on rack pulls, then 8-10 reps on other lifts.
I ask because I wonder if there was a certain age or an event that happened were people decide to back of and refocus their efforts.

What's a rack pull? Is that a half deadlift off the pins in a rack? What do you pull from the floor?

Weight is also relative. We all know guys that short stroke reps in pressing so they can use big weights.  Another factor is speed of the workout. I remember back in the day a guy from my gym saying he saw Chris Dickerson training and the weights were a joke. Guys in the gym said he asked to work out with him the next time he saw him to show him up and he couldn't keep up. Chris did something like 6 sets of 10 reps with very little rest. It made the little weights very heavy after going through exercise after exercise.

 Whenever I hear a guy say what he uses in inclines, leg presses, squats or just about anything else I know I have to see them do it. Bodybuilding is filled with insecure guys. My buddy said he used the 120lbs dumbbells for incline pressing. When I saw him do it he actually was only doing half reps. If he went all the way down he would be lucky if he could use the 90lbs. Same with squats and shallow depths so he can load up the plates. He would have been better off using 225lbs and sinking it to the bottom for quick set after quick set.

That's why I say bodybuilding is cosmetic. If you want to say you're strong how much can you pick up of the floor and put over head?  No way to fake it. You can do it or you can't.

[The Scott]

What's a rack pull? Is that a half deadlift off the pins in a rack? What do you pull from the floor?

Weight is also relative. We all know guys that short stroke reps in pressing so they can use big weights.  Another factor is speed of the workout. I remember back in the day a guy from my gym saying he saw Chris Dickerson training and the weights were a joke. Guys in the gym said he asked to work out with him the next time he saw him to show him up and he couldn't keep up. Chris did something like 6 sets of 10 reps with very little rest. It made the little weights very heavy after going through exercise after exercise.

 Whenever I hear a guy say what he uses in inclines, leg presses, squats or just about anything else I know I have to see them do it. Bodybuilding is filled with insecure guys. My buddy said he used the 120lbs dumbbells for incline pressing. When I saw him do it he actually was only doing half reps. If he went all the way down he would be lucky if he could use the 90lbs. Same with squats and shallow depths so he can load up the plates. He would have been better off using 225lbs and sinking it to the bottom for quick set after quick set.

That's why I say bodybuilding is cosmetic. If you want to say you're strong how much can you pick up of the floor and put over head?  No way to fake it. You can do it or you can't.

I agree.  Functional strength versus fictional strength.  Just compare Strongman competitors to bodybuilders.

As for how Dickerson trained, I sometimes do that too.  I can get through 40 or so sets quickly and get a great pump too.  The weights are itsy bitsy but they get heavy very quick.

Rest day today. Yesterday I felt particularly weak but still trained.  My head wasn't in it but it was productive in that I did  something. 

[Donny]

well this is the Body i have always strived for.. not a fat belly powerlifter. like a sculpter at work always improving 

[chaos]

What's a rack pull? Is that a half deadlift off the pins in a rack? What do you pull from the floor?

Weight is also relative. We all know guys that short stroke reps in pressing so they can use big weights.  Another factor is speed of the workout. I remember back in the day a guy from my gym saying he saw Chris Dickerson training and the weights were a joke. Guys in the gym said he asked to work out with him the next time he saw him to show him up and he couldn't keep up. Chris did something like 6 sets of 10 reps with very little rest. It made the little weights very heavy after going through exercise after exercise.

 Whenever I hear a guy say what he uses in inclines, leg presses, squats or just about anything else I know I have to see them do it. Bodybuilding is filled with insecure guys. My buddy said he used the 120lbs dumbbells for incline pressing. When I saw him do it he actually was only doing half reps. If he went all the way down he would be lucky if he could use the 90lbs. Same with squats and shallow depths so he can load up the plates. He would have been better off using 225lbs and sinking it to the bottom for quick set after quick set.

That's why I say bodybuilding is cosmetic. If you want to say you're strong how much can you pick up of the floor and put over head?  No way to fake it. You can do it or you can't.

Rack pull is off the pins, height depends on how I feel,  usually put the pin in the bottom hole. On my rack it puts the weight 3-4 inches off the ground. As for my form, I'm consistently complimented on how good it is, so I'll assume I'm doing it right. I am kind of a form nazi in the gym. 

[njflex]

leg day,,,,saw a guy in gym never saw before he was watching me train he said you got some strong legs.we talked for a minute he was 50 cant train legs heavy anymore 'knee'


i did hacks squats started with 2 plates warmed up quick worked with 3/4/5/6 plates a side 10 reps per last set with 6 i think 8 it was heavy
leg press 5/6/7/7/plates
walking lunges x2 80 lbs on back
extensions x3 220/235/235..12/12/11'cooked'

hams
sldl 135/185/205/225/245.10/10/10/10/8
leg curl seated upright..x3 185-210

calves seated calf raise..started 2 plates and 25 /3/3.5/4/4 with 2 drops,,,i do these 10 full reps then to do 5 top position to flat foot and then 5 from bottom stretch portion to flat position it burns ,,kinda like 21's with bi's,,

[Donny]

looking through some old pics ... some reeves pics i have never seen before. rare ab shot which you donīt see often. i read he liked tensing his abs hard on tricep pushdowns..

[Donny]

this one..

[Donny]

Chest..
Incline bb press 3 sets
Incline dB flys(offset grip) 3sets
Flat dB press (pronating grip)3sets
Flat flys(offset grip)3 sets

Cardio: stationary bike 45 mins. Off set grip on the flys ala reeves, thumb against inner plate

[njflex]

chest,,wasn't at my best strenght wise tonite,grinded reps than weight..good pump ,just felt fatigued quicker,,stayed same  wgt
certain exercises.

fdb warmed 2 sets 50's ,,jumped 70's ok/80 's/85 felt heavish/85 again lost few reps and dropped set to 60
inc db,,felt dead here 60/60/60 10/8/8/ couldn't go up
flat flyes 50's x3 8-10..great pump at this point but struggled
cable crossovers x3 x12
seated chest press'stack'version x3

tris
dip machine 170 x15/190x10/200/210x10
overhead rope extensionsx3
skull crushers premade curl bar 70's x3x10
pushdowns x3 x12

abs

[Primemuscle]

Our son is here visiting us from Germany. He manages to go for a run or a long walk everyday. I wish I was as ambitious and young as he is. He's 48 years old and fit as a fiddle.

I wish we lived closer to each other. I really enjoy his company. But then I enjoy and like all my children, son, daughter and their spouses. On Thursday, we are going to a Portland Winter Hawks hockey game. We will give those guys an earful if they play well and more of an earful if they don't. LOL.

[Donny]

chest,,wasn't at my best strenght wise tonite,grinded reps than weight..good pump ,just felt fatigued quicker,,stayed same  wgt
certain exercises.

fdb warmed 2 sets 50's ,,jumped 70's ok/80 's/85 felt heavish/85 again lost few reps and dropped set to 60
inc db,,felt dead here 60/60/60 10/8/8/ couldn't go up
flat flyes 50's x3 8-10..great pump at this point but struggled
cable crossovers x3 x12
seated chest press'stack'version x3

tris
dip machine 170 x15/190x10/200/210x10
overhead rope extensionsx3
skull crushers premade curl bar 70's x3x10
pushdowns x3 x12

abs

sometimes itīs like that... i get Days where i am tired too. Sounds like you still got a good workout though.

Our son is here visiting us from Germany. He manages to go for a run or a long walk everyday. I wish I was as ambitious and young as he is. He's 48 years old and fit as a fiddle.

I wish we lived closer to each other. I really enjoy his company. But then I enjoy and like all my children, son, daughter and their spouses. On Thursday, we are going to a Portland Winter Hawks hockey game. We will give those guys an earful if they play well and more of an earful if they don't. LOL.

Thatīs the spirit Jay..enjoy the hockey Game.

Did legs Today...

Front squats 4 sets
Barbell hacks 4 sets
Leg curls 4 sets
Dumbbell stiff Deadlifts 4 sets
standing calve raises 5 sets

No cardio..

[Donny]

Back..

Front chins 4 sets
Close grip pulldowns 4 sets
Seated wide grip cable rows 4 sets
BB pullovers 3 sets

 Seated calf raises 5 sets /Cardio was cycling outside a sunny Day today with a cool breeze.

[njflex]

Back..

Front chins 4 sets
Close grip pulldowns 4 sets
Seated wide grip cable rows 4 sets
BB pullovers 3 sets

 Seated calf raises 5 sets /Cardio was cycling outside a sunny Day today with a cool breeze.

I LIKE WIDE GRIP LOW ROWS....I DO ALOT OF INNER /WIDE/UNDERHAND GRIPS...

[Donny]

I LIKE WIDE GRIP LOW ROWS....I DO ALOT OF INNER /WIDE/UNDERHAND GRIPS...

wide grip low rows i  like swapping with free weight rowing. Keeps it interesting too.

[njflex]

back
chins usual warm/start 2 wide/2 inner sets 12
wide grip low rows'donny'jogged my memory bank,,x3 150-180 10 reps
pulldowns x3 narrow bar'one usually used for cable low rows'165/180/180
one arm off rack db rows 90/95/95 heavy .
2 sets rope pulls to face seated

weighted hypers x3 15/14/12

traps
shrugs 'machine'2/3/4/5 plates..
reverse  4 plates x2

abs

calves,,3 sets drops 30 rep sets

[Primemuscle]

It was 11:30 p.m. last night when I finally did my wimpy leg routine. 4 sets of 25 squats, 4 sets of 25 leg extensions and 4 sets of 20 good morning's. This is never going to give me the legs of my dreams, but it will keep them from looking old and saggy. Likewise my glutes.

[njflex]

It was 11:30 p.m. last night when I finally did my wimpy leg routine. 4 sets of 25 squats, 4 sets of 25 leg extensions and 4 sets of 20 good morning's. This is never going to give me the legs of my dreams, but it will keep them from looking old and saggy. Likewise my glutes.

..

[Donny]

shoulders...

slightly diffrent workout.

Neider press 4 sets
Bradford press 4 sets
Face pulls for rear delts ala stevo 4 sets
close grip upright rows 4 sets

Crunches on floor mat SS with leg raises 3x max. cross Trainer 30 mins interval training.

[Donny]

It was 11:30 p.m. last night when I finally did my wimpy leg routine. 4 sets of 25 squats, 4 sets of 25 leg extensions and 4 sets of 20 good morning's. This is never going to give me the legs of my dreams, but it will keep them from looking old and saggy. Likewise my glutes.

you aint old... fitter than most guys younger than you. I see guys in their 40s walking around with pregnant bellys.. breathing out their arse climbing stairs  ..

[Primemuscle]

you aint old... fitter than most guys younger than you. I see guys in their 40s walking around with pregnant bellys.. breathing out their arse climbing stairs  ..

Well I was very pleased to pass my annual physical with flying colors earlier this week.