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Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« on: June 17, 2015, 05:18:21 PM »




What are your thoughts on it?

I guess it's legal and apparently the officer in the video above has his Chief taking action to fire him.

I see the videos more frequently now and the cops are desperately trying anything to zing the person on (claiming improper hand signals from car or getting businesses to criminal trespass these people).




My take:

I suppose it's like burning the flag.  A legitimate form of free speech, but I would never engage in it.  It's rude, obnoxious, and you're pretty much a dick for doing it.

It's certainly an attempt by cops to abuse their authority.  When I get flipped off, the cops don't do shit and I couldn't even imagine calling 911 over it, lol.  But, they seem to feel they should have special rights and that's gotta stop.

If the rest of us can live with getting flipped off, so can the cops.

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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2015, 10:37:44 AM »
The guy is lucky he wasn't shot (it's likely that the officer "feared for his life") even though he didn't do anything illegal.

There was a U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit decision about a similar issue. But then it seems some cops don't care about laws or court decisions but only about citizens "disrespecting their authority".

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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2015, 11:16:45 AM »
Always smart to piss off the people who could make ur life real difficult...
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2015, 12:05:48 PM »
(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:(1) uses abusive, indecent, profane, or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;(2) makes an offensive gesture or display in a public place, and the gesture or display tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace; -

In Texas, there are times when that gesture could result in an arrest. However it is understood that cops can not be offended under this statute. It has to be a 3rd party.

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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2015, 12:30:32 PM »
The guy in the video is an idiot.  I'm glad he got pepper sprayed. 

Regarding flipping off cops, I don't think it should be illegal, but it's a really dumb thing to do. 
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2015, 12:38:02 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 18, 2015, 12:30:32 PM
The guy in the video is an idiot.  I'm glad he got pepper sprayed. 

Regarding flipping off cops, I don't think it should be illegal, but it's a really dumb thing to do.

You'd say it's dumb, because it relies on trusting the cop?
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2015, 12:51:16 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 18, 2015, 12:38:02 PM
You'd say it's dumb, because it relies on trusting the cop?

I say it's dumb because it's dumb to provoke a stranger for no reason, especially a stranger with all sorts of weapons and the ability to arrest you.

What kind of idiot goes around flipping off cops??  Except for the guy in this video who was looking for trouble?
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2015, 01:08:46 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 18, 2015, 12:51:16 PM
I say it's dumb because it's dumb to provoke a stranger for no reason, especially a stranger with all sorts of weapons and the ability to arrest you.

What kind of idiot goes around flipping off cops??  Except for the guy in this video who was looking for trouble?

Affirmative, in other words.
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2015, 01:10:59 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 18, 2015, 01:08:46 PM
Affirmative, in other words.

No.  What I actually said.
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2015, 01:13:56 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 18, 2015, 01:10:59 PM
No.  What I actually said.

If it's not illegal in your scenario, then what could explain it but a lack of trust in the cop?
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2015, 01:14:49 PM »
...the feeling that it's "dumb".
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2015, 01:19:57 PM »
the law is the law.  I love a society where people can flip police the bird cause guess what... it means we live in a FREE COUNTRY where we are FREE to express out beliefs and use words without getting an ass-whooping for it. 

In Iraq, you talk shit about authority and get beaten/locked up.  It's bullshit if it happens in the USA.

I like cops, I like lawyers, I like public servants.  But I respect the ability of americans - under the constitution - to say what they want.
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2015, 01:22:49 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 18, 2015, 01:13:56 PM
If it's not illegal in your scenario, then what could explain it but a lack of trust in the cop?

Are you seriously asking me why it's dumb to flip off a stranger for no reason, including a cop? 
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2015, 01:30:09 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 18, 2015, 01:22:49 PM
Are you seriously asking me why it's dumb to flip off a stranger for no reason, including a cop? 

No. Just that.
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2015, 01:30:56 PM »
I hate that any American thinks it's okay for a cop to abuse power against. A person who broke no law, just because cop has gun and arrest power.  

Part of what makes America beautiful is that we have freedom to shit on anyone we want, within the law.   Good and bad alike.   The same freedoms to criticize Obama also applies to cops.  The moment it's okay to flip off a terrorist and not a cop, we don't live in America anymore.  In a truly free nation, you should be able to flip off both, even if flipping off a cop makes a person a total punch able dick.   In truly free nations, dicks can be dicks.  
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2015, 01:36:22 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 18, 2015, 01:30:09 PM
No. Just that.

Common sense?  Common decency?  Not acting like a punk?  Not unnecessarily provoking someone?  

Why would you flip off anyone, including a cop, for no reason?  
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2015, 01:49:54 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 18, 2015, 01:36:22 PM
Common sense?  Common decency?  Not acting like a punk?  Not unnecessarily provoking someone?  

Why would you flip off anyone, including a cop, for no reason?  

This is the part I'm trying to figure out, though, since it would explain the "dumb" part.

And it's not a matter of distrusting the cop, you say?
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2015, 01:53:40 PM »
Here's a good one: Who do you think you'd sooner get away with flipping off?
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2015, 01:55:03 PM »
The cop or someone else?
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2015, 02:01:54 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 18, 2015, 01:49:54 PM
This is the part I'm trying to figure out, though, since it would explain the "dumb" part.

And it's not a matter of distrusting the cop, you say?


It's exactly what I said.  Doing something that lacks common sense is dumb.  Think about what you would teach your kid.  Would you teach your kid that it's ok to flip off a stranger for no reason? 
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #20 on: June 18, 2015, 02:17:53 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 18, 2015, 02:01:54 PM
It's exactly what I said.  Doing something that lacks common sense is dumb.  Think about what you would teach your kid.  Would you teach your kid that it's ok to flip off a stranger for no reason? 

A person that flips-off a cop isn't likely doing it for "no reason". Wouldn't you agree?
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #21 on: June 18, 2015, 02:20:15 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 18, 2015, 02:17:53 PM
A person that flips-off a cop isn't likely doing it for "no reason". Wouldn't you agree?


Probably not.  How about "no good reason."  It's just not appropriate behavior.  It shouldn't be illegal, but that doesn't mean it isn't dumb. 
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #22 on: June 18, 2015, 02:40:33 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 18, 2015, 02:20:15 PM
Probably not.  How about "no good reason."  It's just not appropriate behavior. It shouldn't be illegal, but that doesn't mean it isn't dumb. 

Good luck getting everyone to behave appropriately.
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #23 on: June 18, 2015, 02:42:15 PM »
Quote from: Jack T. Cross on June 18, 2015, 02:40:33 PM
Good luck getting everyone to behave appropriately.

Of course that will never happen.  People will always do dumb things. 
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Re: Giving Cops the Middle Finger
« Reply #24 on: June 18, 2015, 02:43:12 PM »
I don't think anyone would deny that the cops practically invite so-inclined people to act this way.
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