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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4100 on: January 08, 2021, 07:25:23 AM »
There has to be a big pullback coming very soon.

On what basis do you predict this to occur? BTC is in super scarce supply. There is huge demand for BTC by institutions and HNWs. And BTC has barely been opened to mass retail investors. So arguably, if anything, there has to be massive upside ahead (albeit with blips of mini-selloffs along the way.

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« Reply #4101 on: January 08, 2021, 07:26:01 AM »
On what basis do you predict this to occur? BTC is in super scarce supply. There is huge demand for BTC by institutions and HNWs. And BTC has barely been opened to mass retail investors. So arguably, if anything, there has to be massive upside ahead (albeit with blips of mini-selloffs along the way.

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« Reply #4102 on: January 08, 2021, 07:35:19 AM »



looks legit . . . nothing to be worried about . . . ! !

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« Reply #4103 on: January 08, 2021, 07:39:57 AM »



looks legit . . . nothing to be worried about . . . ! !

Two words to help you get perspective.

"Zoom out".

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« Reply #4104 on: January 08, 2021, 07:50:58 AM »




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« Reply #4105 on: January 08, 2021, 08:02:05 AM »
Butcoin will crash when the Twins and that other asshole decide to dump.  Right now those guys are multi billionaires on paper and will ride this higher and eventually cash out.  That can be soon or a while. who knows.

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« Reply #4106 on: January 08, 2021, 12:22:10 PM »
There has to be a big pullback coming very soon.
I would definitely be selling the majority of my Bitcoin.  Keep some in for continued growth.  When this thing crashes there are going to be some devastated investors.

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« Reply #4107 on: January 08, 2021, 12:28:20 PM »
I would definitely be selling the majority of my Bitcoin.  Keep some in for continued growth.  When this thing crashes there are going to be some devastated investors.

Im not worried about devastation at all. I just don't like seeing anything moving up this fast. Its nuts.  Like you said I'll sell some at these highs and wait a bit. Grab some more  on the next drop. There's an long way to go here.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4108 on: January 08, 2021, 07:17:24 PM »
Quote from: Mr Anabolic on November 19, 2017, 11:22:58 AM (Bitcoin Price $8033)

"Banksters will be able to naked short bitcoins and drive the price down like they do with precious metals.

Gonna be interesting when it collapses $1000's in a few minutes and you didn't even take profits on one.  You'll disappear... never to post in this thread again."


So... We are all still here Mr Anabolic. And your fears about "naked shorts" did not eventuate. So, who was it that ended up cowardly disappearing "never to post on this thread again". :) lol


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4109 on: January 08, 2021, 07:29:57 PM »



Hahahaha. Yep. Wash, rinse and repeat the greater fool theory.

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« Reply #4110 on: January 08, 2021, 08:03:04 PM »



looks legit . . . nothing to be worried about . . . ! !

Looks like tesla.

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« Reply #4111 on: January 08, 2021, 09:46:13 PM »
I would definitely be selling the majority of my Bitcoin.  Keep some in for continued growth.  When this thing crashes there are going to be some devastated investors.

If you take the view that BTC will approach of surpass gold in market cap, then you have a 20x increase from here. And if so, "corrections" along the way are mere blips in a overall one-directional journey. It is far far harder to predict the exact path that will be taken along a journey, than it is to predict the final destination. If you believe you can predict ups and downs of BTC along the way, every "overbought and underbought" signal etc, and if you believe you can truly apply "technical to such an asset" I wish you luck. It's certainly not something I am capable of and I am very skeptical of anyone else's ability to do so, other than highly skilled and resourced quants.

I am quite happy placing a long term bet on Bitcoin, not just because of the possibility huge and asymmetric of long term upside, but also because I want exposure to this asset as protection against a range of future risks.

We have another halvening in less than for years from now, and in the meantime a wall of fiat capital slowly being released and realized as our clunky banks and pensions funds etc who will start slowly buying in. We have huge infrastructure efforts on the verge of being rolled out opening up BTC to the masses in global payment systems.

I do very well understand the sentiment of "taking a quick gain" if something seems to have risen too fast. Its something we have been conditioned to think, almost as though we didn't "deserve" such a quick gain, or that if something gains fast it must inherently be overvalued.

I could sell off one or more of my 50 coins, and standard portfolio management dictates that when one asset class becomes overweight you rebalance. On the other hand, as Charlie Munger once said, "only people who don't know what they are doing run balanced portfolios". :)

The reality many BTC owners have, is "what would I do with the cash"? In my case, I really don't feel too comfortable holding any more fiat cash at the moment given all that is going on and how rapidly cash is being devalued through money printing backed by debt that cannot be repaid. I feel equities, (at least in the US are vastly over-valued). I might possibly buy more in Europe or Asia. More property is simply a hassle, inefficient in terms of acquiring and divesting, and produces a low yield. Bonds? No way. Gold? - I have more than enough and am less comfortable with this than BTC for obvious reasons. Pay off a little debt? Possibly but cost of finance is virtually zero at the moment. And so on it goes.

Given all that is going on in the world, politically, and in finance, and in technology, BTC is in my view possibly the most important assets to be holding if certain scenarios play out. For those who have the ability to become or remain a One-coiner, my advice is to acquire at least that one coin and then simply HODL. If not a whole coin, get some Satoshies and work your way up towards as much of a coin as you can. No doubt though, there will be some volatility in price along the way.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4112 on: January 09, 2021, 04:46:16 AM »
Bitcoin Is ‘Less Risky the Higher It Goes,’ Says Investor Bill Miller on CNBC


 “One of the things that’s interesting about bitcoin is that it gets less risky the higher it goes,” Miller told CNBC Friday. “That’s the opposite of what happens with most stocks.”

Miller continued to describe bitcoin as “a supply-and-demand story” with roughly 900 bitcoins created each day and a swarm of retail and institutional investors scooping up enormous chunks of available supply.

Some of those large investments have come from firms like MicroStrategy, which has scooped up over 70,000 BTC with plans to buy more, and London-based asset manager Ruffer Investment, which dumped $740 million into bitcoin toward the end of 2020.

Payment companies like Square and PayPal are also funneling retail capital into bitcoin. In Q3 2020, for example, Square reported a record $1 billion in bitcoin revenue via its Cash App mobile wallet. PayPal, after announcing its plan to support bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies in October, promptly removed its waitlist for the service less than a month later, citing overwhelming demand.


“For those people who are waiting for the pullback, they got it in the first quarter. You could have bought bitcoin at $4,000 in the first quarter,” Miller noted, referencing bitcoin’s nearly 50% intraday crash in March 2020.

But amid bitcoin’s more than 300% rally in 2020, extended by an additional 40% gain already in 2021, Miller said the price of these returns is the asset’s volatility.

“You have to expect that it’s going to be very, very volatile,” Miller told CNBC. “If you can’t take the volatility, you probably shouldn’t own it. But its volatility is the price you pay for its performance.”

Still, Miller said earlier this week he thinks markets are underpricing bitcoin’s value proposition as a potential inflation hedge, calling it cash’s “rat poison,” a term Warren Buffett famously applied to bitcoin with an entirely opposite connotation.


 https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-bill-miller-cnbc-volatility-risk

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4113 on: January 10, 2021, 09:48:51 AM »
On what basis do you predict this to occur? BTC is in super scarce supply. There is huge demand for BTC by institutions and HNWs. And BTC has barely been opened to mass retail investors. So arguably, if anything, there has to be massive upside ahead (albeit with blips of mini-selloffs along the way.

Think we're seeing it now

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« Reply #4114 on: January 10, 2021, 11:17:28 AM »
Think we're seeing it now

My estimate was a 44k wick with a 41k close and we saw a 42k wick with a 41.5k close. Pretty close.

I jumped ship at 40.5k. I exited ETH last night at 1290. I was holding ETH but after a massive attack on BTC and ETH seeing an 8% drop in about 30s I can’t take the stress and exited. I saw no point in holding anything today, ETH won’t ramp until BtC settles down.

BTC has support at 38200 and 37400 so it might bounce around there for the next few hours. Under that it’s 34k.

Weekly charts refresh in 5hrs which will determine BTCs fate. Not long to figure out if it has any chance of recovery.

I’m waiting out the volatility on BTC so that ETH can ramp. I think once BTC hits 34k and takes a break, ETH will go to 1,800.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4115 on: January 10, 2021, 11:32:05 AM »
I took profit at the time I called for a pull back a few posts back. Still hanging to.my ethereum but I agree with you.

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« Reply #4116 on: January 10, 2021, 12:03:57 PM »
I took profit at the time I called for a pull back a few posts back. Still hanging to.my ethereum but I agree with you.

This week has been brutal wrecking of shorts. Then wrecking longs. Carnage.

At the start of the week the chat was moving crazy fast with bulls. People claiming any upward movement was going to 60k, the most retarded stuff from people buying in at 40k. By mid week after multiple attacks it became 50/50 bull to bear.

These last 2 days it’s been 100% bearish. Everyone slamming ‘shitcoins’. All the bulls wiped out. They got wrecked.


I’m waiting for an opportunity on ETH but I don’t know the trend well enough. I keep hearing ‘alt season’ but mofo they are all burning lol !!!  Maybe it’s a bounce from 980? Or is it a complete pullback to 500 and bounce?


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« Reply #4117 on: January 10, 2021, 02:00:38 PM »
This week has been brutal wrecking of shorts. Then wrecking longs. Carnage.

At the start of the week the chat was moving crazy fast with bulls. People claiming any upward movement was going to 60k, the most retarded stuff from people buying in at 40k. By mid week after multiple attacks it became 50/50 bull to bear.

These last 2 days it’s been 100% bearish. Everyone slamming ‘shitcoins’. All the bulls wiped out. They got wrecked.


I’m waiting for an opportunity on ETH but I don’t know the trend well enough. I keep hearing ‘alt season’ but mofo they are all burning lol !!!  Maybe it’s a bounce from 980? Or is it a complete pullback to 500 and bounce?

Who really knows? Lol

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4118 on: January 10, 2021, 09:40:36 PM »
Who really knows? Lol

I think I do now.

BTC will hit 46k by the end of the week.

BTC sitting at 35k right now. It either ramps from here or it drops to 32k-33k and ramps from there.

It will tap 46k+ and blow out.....

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« Reply #4119 on: January 11, 2021, 01:08:49 AM »
I think I do now.

BTC will hit 46k by the end of the week.

BTC sitting at 35k right now. It either ramps from here or it drops to 32k-33k and ramps from there.

It will tap 46k+ and blow out.....

I'm buying some more sometime  later today regardless of price. Were close to bottoming. Don't know about 46 though

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« Reply #4120 on: January 11, 2021, 04:57:25 AM »
$ 34,187.44

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« Reply #4121 on: January 11, 2021, 05:04:05 AM »
$ 34,187.44

Its.meeting some resistance around here. Maybe a bit lower before reversal. I'll grab then and hold

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« Reply #4122 on: January 11, 2021, 05:07:31 AM »

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« Reply #4123 on: January 11, 2021, 05:11:12 AM »
Bitcoin’s Biggest Plunge Since March Shakes Faith in Crypto Boom

(Bloomberg) -- A steep selloff in Bitcoin is fueling concern that the cryptocurrency bubble may be about to burst.

Bitcoin slid as much as 21% over Sunday and Monday in the biggest two-day slide since March. While the digital token recovered some of the losses during the European session, it was still down for the day.

“It’s to be determined whether this is the start of a larger correction, but we have now seen this parabola break so it might just be,” said Vijay Ayyar, head of business development with crypto exchange Luno in Singapore.

Bitcoin has more than quadrupled in the past year, evoking memories of the 2017 mania that first made cryptocurrencies a household name before prices collapsed just as quickly. Prices almost reached $42,000 on Jan. 8 with retail traders and Wall Street investors clamoring for a piece of the action.

Bitcoin slid 6.2% to $35,555.59 as of 10:37 a.m. in London.

“Time to take some money off the table,” Scott Minerd, chief investment officer with Guggenheim Investments, said in a tweet from his verified Twitter account. “Bitcoin’s parabolic rise is unsustainable in the near term.” In late December, Minerd predicted Bitcoin could eventually reach $400,000.

True believers in Bitcoin argue the rally this time is different from past boom-bust cycles because the asset has matured with the entry of institutional investors and is increasingly seen as a legitimate hedge against dollar weakness and inflation risk. Others worry that the rally is untethered from reason and fueled by vast swathes of fiscal and monetary stimulus, with Bitcoin unlikely to ever serve as a viable currency alternative.

With so many investors wanting to get rich on Bitcoin, the asset is drawing the attention of regulators. On Monday, the U.K.’s financial watchdog issued a stark warning for consumers looking to profit from crypto: be ready to lose everything.

“Investing in cryptoassets, or investments and lending linked to them, generally involves taking very high risks with investors’ money,” the Financial Conduct Authority said in a statement. The FCA’s concerns include price volatility, the complexity of products offered and the lack of consumer protection regulation around many of the products.


https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/two-day-bitcoin-plunge-shakes-052239155.html

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #4124 on: January 11, 2021, 05:43:42 AM »
The get rich quick crowd have no guts for losses. Will go down faster than up.