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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5650 on: April 06, 2021, 09:48:41 AM »
Vechain, I've heard some good things about that. I'll look into it more.

Reasoning behind these selections?

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5651 on: April 06, 2021, 09:59:18 AM »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/scaramucci-bitcoin-apex-predator-ethereum-014728081.html

Scaramucci: Bitcoin Is The Apex Predator, But Ethereum Will Be The Actual Store Of Value

Samyuktha Sriram
Mon, April 5, 2021, 8:47 PM·2 min read

Anthony Scaramucci, known Bitcoin proponent heading global investment firm SkyBridge Capital, believes that the future of the digital asset in investment portfolios is inevitable.

What Happened: In a recent interview with CNBC, Scaramucci called it "the apex predator in the space. I tell my clients whether you like it or not, the world is moving into digitization.”

SkyBridge Capital’s Bitcoin Fund LP holds over $600 million worth of Bitcoin at present, and two weeks ago, the firm applied for the SEC approval of a Bitcoin ETF.

However, by Scaramucci’s own admission, SkyBridge’s focus on Bitcoin may have more to do with its clients’ preferences rather than his own.

“I predicted Ethereum has good fundamentals and will grow, but I’m in an institutionalist sort of business. I think like an institutionalist, and I’ve got to get my clients thinking about cryptocurrency and digital assets. So, as a first step, I’m focused on Bitcoin and we only have now a Bitcoin fund,” he said.

Why It Matters: In recent months, Ethereum has risen in popularity, and price, after its use cases extended beyond DeFi (decentralized finance) into the realm of NFTs (non-fungible tokens).

The second-largest cryptocurrency by market cap has garnered support from high-profile investors, including Mark Cuban, who recently revealed his bullish stance on Ethereum, calling it a “hotbed of continuous innovation”.

Scaramucci appeared to share this belief too, as he went on to state, "The technology around Ethereum is going to make it a sticky cryptocurrency and a store of value and something people will transact with.”

What Else: While he wouldn’t recommend a 20% portfolio allocation towards cryptocurrency just yet, Scaramucci thinks that an allocation between one and three percent would be ideal for investors.

“When you think about our children... they're going to be very comfortable transacting in Ethereum or Bitcoin, and I’ve got to get my clients ready for that,” he said.

“If they have a 1, 2, or 3% position they're going to look at us as fiduciaries and think they were very well served.”
The Unicorn is the apex predator but the Leprechaun will be the actual store of value (because of his pot of gold).

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5652 on: April 06, 2021, 01:39:52 PM »
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/scaramucci-bitcoin-apex-predator-ethereum-014728081.html

Scaramucci: Bitcoin Is The Apex Predator, But Ethereum Will Be The Actual Store Of Value

Samyuktha Sriram
Mon, April 5, 2021, 8:47 PM·2 min read

Anthony Scaramucci, known Bitcoin proponent heading global investment firm SkyBridge Capital, believes that the future of the digital asset in investment portfolios is inevitable.

What Happened: In a recent interview with CNBC, Scaramucci called it "the apex predator in the space. I tell my clients whether you like it or not, the world is moving into digitization.”

SkyBridge Capital’s Bitcoin Fund LP holds over $600 million worth of Bitcoin at present, and two weeks ago, the firm applied for the SEC approval of a Bitcoin ETF.

However, by Scaramucci’s own admission, SkyBridge’s focus on Bitcoin may have more to do with its clients’ preferences rather than his own.

“I predicted Ethereum has good fundamentals and will grow, but I’m in an institutionalist sort of business. I think like an institutionalist, and I’ve got to get my clients thinking about cryptocurrency and digital assets. So, as a first step, I’m focused on Bitcoin and we only have now a Bitcoin fund,” he said.

Why It Matters: In recent months, Ethereum has risen in popularity, and price, after its use cases extended beyond DeFi (decentralized finance) into the realm of NFTs (non-fungible tokens).

The second-largest cryptocurrency by market cap has garnered support from high-profile investors, including Mark Cuban, who recently revealed his bullish stance on Ethereum, calling it a “hotbed of continuous innovation”.

Scaramucci appeared to share this belief too, as he went on to state, "The technology around Ethereum is going to make it a sticky cryptocurrency and a store of value and something people will transact with.”

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Talk about a misleading title!

The guy never made that statement. The use of the word ‘but’ is incredibly misleading as it implies Bitcoin is not a store of value, he never said anything of the sort.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5653 on: April 06, 2021, 09:48:49 PM »
Agreed, lots of misleading and out of context stuff going around.

BTC is the apex predator consuming more and more store of value assets. Currently in the process of subsuming gold.

It is correct that ETH, apart from facilitating smart contracts, is used by some as a store of value also, but these concepts are very different. BTC is KING in the store of value space.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5654 on: April 06, 2021, 09:50:40 PM »
On a related note, BTC seems to have really established a solid support level at $50,000. And ETH similarly so at $1800 (albeit maybe not quite as solid).

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« Reply #5655 on: April 06, 2021, 11:23:02 PM »
On a related note, BTC seems to have really established a solid support level at $50,000. And ETH similarly so at $1800 (albeit maybe not quite as solid).

55k is now the 2nd largest HODL point second to 11k and this is where the metrics and models begin to blow up.

The reason models are blowing up is because they are all based on diminishing returns on the assumption there is a base level of market establishment and maturing thereafter.

We have a BTC mining halving event each 4yrs in May give or take followed by a bullrun in the 18mths afterwards. This is what i have been watching more than models.

This run vs Jun 2016 -3% vs 27%  so we started on the back foot out of the gate.
This run vs Oct 2016 46% vs 31% so we covered the gap and overtook during this period.
This run vs Dec 2016 207% vs 83%
This run vs Mar 2017 495% vs 105%

To put that into perspective if BTC were to hold where it is for April.....May.....June.. ...July.... we would merely be even with the growth bullrun of 2017 up to that point (we are 4 months ahead).

We can further crush the diminishing returns argument when we look at the overall trend for the 9 month period post halving. In the 2017 bullrun the peak month change was 31%, 2 months of 27%, 1 month of 23% and the rest all smaller. In this bullrun we have a peak of 47%, 43% and 36% with the remaining mostly in the 20s.

Of the 9 months we have had 3 months with larger MOM growth than the peak growth during the 2017 bullrun. Of the remaining 6 months half were approx 25%. In other words, the entire 9 months trend is blowing apart the trend of the 2017 run and this is why the models are beginning to blow up in kind.


So where does it end up?

Well in 2017, 5 of the remaining 9 months with massive growth - 50% upwards so this is what we are looking at. In Q2 2017 we saw 125% growth over the previous March close.


Therefore during Q2 2021 if we expect the growth to decrease from the previous 9 months to the level of 2017, using 125% growth we would see a price approx 132k before end of June.

If we do not see a price around that mark, it means the trend is broken.........





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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5656 on: April 07, 2021, 05:07:49 AM »
Prior trends and halvening cycle metrics are certainly interesting.

The big game changer this time around is the huge flow of institutional money coming in. Lets see if price moves in line or exceeds the trend.


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« Reply #5657 on: April 07, 2021, 05:39:15 AM »
Prior trends and halvening cycle metrics are certainly interesting.

The big game changer this time around is the huge flow of institutional money coming in. Lets see if price moves in line or exceeds the trend.

I’d argue the lead cause is monetary policy which is having flow on effects such as institutional investment.

If it were not for trillions in stimulus since the initial lockdown, would the institutions still be buying the volumes we have seen? Previous models were done prior to the pandemic and therefore cannot possibly factor in stimulus into the models because it didn’t exist. Hence things are blowing up and no longer working.

I mentioned earlier about something having to go wrong, it can swing both ways. A lower high catching people out or a higher high followed by a fake out bear market. Data from May 2020 to close March 2021 indicates a trend far greater in growth than we saw in 2017. Stimulus continues to take place and will be exponential over time leading to continued behavioural changes by the financial markets.

If I use the same mom growth from April to Dec as 2017 I get to a 900k spike at year end. If I cap the peak growth months to 47% which is the peak so far this bullrun I get around 540k.

There is also the possibility that no parabolic movement appears......won’t that be a headfuck for people lol.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5658 on: April 07, 2021, 06:25:59 AM »
https://coinmarketcap.com/headlines/news/miami-ethereum-city-services-blockchain/

Miami is collaborating with Ethereum developers to put city services on the blockchain

Miami Mayor Francis Suarez turned heads earlier this year when he said he wanted the Florida city to add bitcoin to its treasury.

Now, Suarez is pushing a commitment for the city to explore crypto by turning his attention to Ethereum. According to a new episode of The Scoop, Ethereum creator Vitalik Buterin and Suarez announced that they have embarked on a new collaborative project focused on city services.

To be sure, it's early days for the initiative, but the two have met on two occasions now and talks about the scope of the initiative continue.

"We're trying to come up with a project that goes through the foundation and directly with Ethereum that we can do with the city," said Suarez. "We want the city directly involved in a way that demonstrates the applicability of the software so that we can continue to provide better services for our residents."

According to Suarez, decentralized information systems are becoming a priority for Miami, especially with looming security concerns like the upcoming hurricane season.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5659 on: April 08, 2021, 12:38:57 AM »
Yeah - very cool Miami. Over time we will see more companies offer to pay employees in Bitcoin. But great if your employers is offering this as an option now.

I heard some of the food delivery companies are already doing this for their drivers. Smart ones will take BTC and Hodl. Typical losers will take cash and spend it.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5660 on: April 08, 2021, 04:06:00 AM »
Yeah - very cool Miami. Over time we will see more companies offer to pay employees in Bitcoin. But great if your employers is offering this as an option now.

I heard some of the food delivery companies are already doing this for their drivers. Smart ones will take BTC and Hodl. Typical losers will take cash and spend it.
Might as well pay employees with Monopoly money.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5661 on: April 09, 2021, 02:01:30 AM »
Might as well pay employees with Monopoly money.

Dude, do you still not get it???

It's THE USD THAT IS THE MONOPOLY MONEY!

How can that be so hard to comprehend? I have been explaining this since the beginning of the thread. Could I suggest you please take the time to re-read the entire thread and then really have a deep think. Let your stubbornness go, and open your mind a little. You will be the better for it. Trust me.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5662 on: April 09, 2021, 10:08:44 AM »
Dude, do you still not get it???

It's THE USD THAT IS THE MONOPOLY MONEY!

How can that be so hard to comprehend? I have been explaining this since the beginning of the thread. Could I suggest you please take the time to re-read the entire thread and then really have a deep think. Let your stubbornness go, and open your mind a little. You will be the better for it. Trust me.

It's pride with these types of people. They can never admit they're wrong no matter how ridiculous they look.

Soon enough you will able to be able to buy a house with one BTC and for them(and their silly delusions) it will still be "worth less than a glass of water".

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5663 on: April 09, 2021, 01:01:50 PM »
It's pride with these types of people. They can never admit they're wrong no matter how ridiculous they look.

Soon enough you will able to be able to buy a house with one BTC and for them(and their silly delusions) it will still be "worth less than a glass of water".
When people actually start buying houses with Bitcoin I will believe it.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5664 on: April 09, 2021, 01:04:13 PM »
Dude, do you still not get it???

It's THE USD THAT IS THE MONOPOLY MONEY!

How can that be so hard to comprehend? I have been explaining this since the beginning of the thread. Could I suggest you please take the time to re-read the entire thread and then really have a deep think. Let your stubbornness go, and open your mind a little. You will be the better for it. Trust me.
And I have been explaining where you are wrong.  How can you call fiat currency Monopoly money when a person actually purchases real products with it?  Bitcoin only has value if you cash out to fiat currency.


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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5666 on: April 09, 2021, 11:13:16 PM »
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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5667 on: April 09, 2021, 11:14:11 PM »
And I have been explaining where you are wrong.  How can you call fiat currency Monopoly money when a person actually purchases real products with it?  Bitcoin only has value if you cash out to fiat currency.


Man, you are one stubborn SOB. Lol

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« Reply #5668 on: April 10, 2021, 12:37:23 AM »
When people actually start buying houses with Bitcoin I will believe it.

Forget the 'money' line that some people push. The currencies will be here after all this mess, bitcoin isn't going to take over them in the near future.

You need to consider it as a 'stable asset' against the Money Supply. This is what Bitcoin is.

Instead of wondering whether one should put their money into stocks, metals, property, art etc you can dump it in bitcoin and be protected from currency devaluation. If the money supply goes up 25% then Bitcoin goes up 25%, that is how it will work once it becomes larger and less volatile.

You use it as savings. Then when you are ready to purchase something, put it into fiat and buy what it is you need.


Soros is already in. Bill Gates is already in. All these fuckers are not only making billions off QE but also buying assets involved in crypto and gaining from it aswell.

All that BS about Gates giving away his fortune..... the mofo is the largest farmland owner in the US, has his fingers all through the vaccines and is also snapping up crypto related assets along with crypto. Oh but he'll tell every average Joe not to buy it..... if you believe what he says, well i wish you the best.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5669 on: April 10, 2021, 01:37:48 AM »
$60,792.73

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« Reply #5670 on: April 10, 2021, 01:56:54 AM »

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« Reply #5671 on: April 10, 2021, 03:35:22 AM »
Forget the 'money' line that some people push. The currencies will be here after all this mess, bitcoin isn't going to take over them in the near future.

You need to consider it as a 'stable asset' against the Money Supply. This is what Bitcoin is.

Instead of wondering whether one should put their money into stocks, metals, property, art etc you can dump it in bitcoin and be protected from currency devaluation. If the money supply goes up 25% then Bitcoin goes up 25%, that is how it will work once it becomes larger and less volatile.

You use it as savings. Then when you are ready to purchase something, put it into fiat and buy what it is you need.


Soros is already in. Bill Gates is already in. All these fuckers are not only making billions off QE but also buying assets involved in crypto and gaining from it aswell.

All that BS about Gates giving away his fortune..... the mofo is the largest farmland owner in the US, has his fingers all through the vaccines and is also snapping up crypto related assets along with crypto. Oh but he'll tell every average Joe not to buy it..... if you believe what he says, well i wish you the best.

Exactly!

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5672 on: April 10, 2021, 07:10:11 AM »
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.coindesk.com/china-bitcoin-crypto-millionaire-real-estate%3famp=1

https://bitcoin-realestate.com/

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2021/04/07/rick-carusos-company-to-begin-accepting-rent-payments-in-bitcoin.html

With a few clicks of the mouse I can also convert my BTC into physical gold stored in a Brinks vault.

I personally would be okay with them taking custody of my gold but if I wanted to self-custody the gold, there is an option for delivery as well.

https://www.paxos.com/paxgold/

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5673 on: April 10, 2021, 12:59:00 PM »
With a few clicks of the mouse I can also convert my BTC into physical gold stored in a Brinks vault.

I personally would be okay with them taking custody of my gold but if I wanted to self-custody the gold, there is an option for delivery as well.

https://www.paxos.com/paxgold/
I would do it now.

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Re: Bitcoins - about to hit $5,000 per coin today!
« Reply #5674 on: April 10, 2021, 02:43:09 PM »
$60,792.73


I just took a double or nothing bet with a mate that it’s close below 60k this morning (he lost the last bet and wanted to go again). 600M in shorts got liquidated and then longs got liquidated and back at 58.7k.

I am pondering whether the volatility has decreased from both the top and the bottom. We are seeing margin traders getting constantly wrecked meanwhile price is extremely stable and coins continue to leave exchanges.

Perhaps we should have spiked to 80k already, yet we didn’t. Perhaps we should have pulled back to 40k, yet we haven’t. The buying pressure from the bottom is still present, institutions quite happy to take small pieces and keep the price below 60k by backing off on order sizes. Meanwhile the underlying data shows the price floor ripping upwards at around 46k now as coins continue to be pulled from exchanges.

As the floor increases it puts increasing pressure on the spot price to go for a run while preventing any sizeable dip. Price can’t be kept down for much longer though, futures wants 80k by month end.