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Karl Kox

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Shoulder Pain
« on: February 28, 2006, 06:48:46 AM »
OK guys maybe yall could help me out. Every time I do any kind of pressing movment with dumbells my left shoulder gets a hot pain and tightins up. I try to stretch it out but that hardly ever works.  If it helps I have dislocated that shoulder twice about 4 or 5 yrs ago. Please help .

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2006, 06:51:20 AM »
have you checked with a doctor or specialist
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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2006, 07:06:10 AM »
no not sence I dislocated it the last time.He said that theres not much you can do when you you dislocate your shoulder and that it would be very sore for a while. I was like no shit. Sometimes it dose not bother me sometimes it dose.

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2006, 07:34:59 AM »
might wanna try to post this in the injury forums as well
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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2006, 07:40:08 AM »
Some ideas. Try each by itself first, then go down the line if the first doesn't help:

1/ Better warmups-several minutes of slow windmills in both directions, then light motions with weights. No hurry, do it right.

2/ Increase the intensity used, so that the weight used on presses is lowered:
i) Lower rest times between sets.
ii) Increase reps to 12-15 range.
iii) Pre-exhaust using another delt exercise first, to both warm up the delts before getting to the problem exercise and to exhaust the delts and reduce the weight used on presses.
iv) Compound super-sets or tri-sets.
v) Negatives, etc.

3/ Find variations of the same exercise that do NOT cause pain:
i) Smith machine presses using either full or partial ROM that eliminates the bottom portion-try both.
ii) Press to in front instead of behind head.

4/ Abandon the exercise, your body doesn't like it. Find other good substitutes that don't cause the problem.

5/ A cortisone shot will take care of the pain, which will return eventually, unless the cause of the pain is eliminated.

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2006, 09:16:01 AM »
If it's the left shoulder only when doing any DB presses (don't know which is your dominite side...right or left) that hot pain may suggest a start of a tear in the rotor cuff area. It may also be a case of bursitis, arthritis, etc beginning  to develop. Cortizonr shot's may help for a while but are only masking the central problem of pain when you lift. Twice dislocating that left shoulder maybe a root cause of the present affect of that pain. A hot pain usually suggest a tear of some kind; muscle, tendon, etc rather than bursitis or arthritis.  This could also be a pinched nerve which can be treated very well with  deep muscle massages, shoulder/neck adjustments & rest.
The first choice would be to see a GP doctor who may refer you to a sports medicine doctor if he (GP) can't help you. Lot's of way's now-a-days to treat most kinds of shoulder injuries without resorting to a operation. Some slightly torn Rotor Cuff injuries (if it is that) responed well to rest.  And there are Rotor Cuff special exercise that can also improve the area.
If you do decide to work around the shoulder area than keep the area warm with a lotion/heat rub while wearing a heavy sweat shirt. You want to keep the body heat in to help with the blood flow. Of course avoid any exercise that even comes near putting undo stress on the shoulder area. I'll give you a little locker room athletic tip with regard to too much pain . More jocks use Excedrin, than anything else by far, when it comes to relieving short term training pains. Good Luck.

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2006, 10:13:25 AM »
Thanks guys those are all really good suggestions.  Some times when it hurts it helps if I take kile the eraser end of a pencile and kinda jam it in there.  Don't knowe why but it hepls. It also hurts some times if I don't get to move it around a lot.  Like I have to wear a sport coat at work which dose not allow me a whole lote of normal movement.

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2006, 10:35:41 AM »
All in all it sound like a pinched (inflamed) nerve if you get relief from the pressure of a pencil end. Acupuncture or acupressure, which I have both used, may help. A deep massage like Rolfing or a sports massage could help also. If these fail then you might consider seeing a doctor. Do not want to make matters worse. Good Luck.

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2006, 12:49:48 PM »
No I do not want to make matters worse LOL.  Thanks.  Massages have help in the past I guess I will take my ass to the Doctor I have been putting it of for a while.

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2006, 01:17:08 PM »
I've had the same benefits from sticking something in to the problem area, it does help.

Bottom line, the shoulder's f--- . Unless you can find a way around the problem, do NOT continue with presses. Some exercises just don't agree with some people. I haven't done barbell benches in a couple of decades at least.

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2006, 02:20:01 PM »
any kind of barbellmovment is fine. It's dumbells that fuck it up.

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2006, 02:11:06 AM »
cortisone shots kick ass!!!...for awhile. I say anything that hurts ...don't do it.If dumbells hurt and barbells don't maybe your form is sloppy?..not a flame just a thought.You know what I mean,a barbell sort of locks in your form to some extent,where as the dumbells you have to use so many stabilizing muscles to keep the weight in the proper plain/angle of motion.

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Re: Shoulder Pain
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2006, 04:02:11 PM »
I thought that my form is sloppy but thats not the only time it bothers me.