Who is Phil better than from the 90s?

[Wiggs]

We always talk about the 90's were better, take the best today Phil and comparing him against the best of the 90s. We can provide pictures, video etc as the thread continues.

Phil is not better than the following people imo: Haney, Ronnie, Dorian, and Flex

Phil is better than Cormier, Levrone, Ray, and Dillet

There are more to add, that's just a start.

[The Grim Lifter]

Phil does show up in shape, he's doughy but he's in shape. He has good cuts and lines. Who knows how he'd do. He'd be competitive and his back is top notch, better than Levrone, Ray, Nasser, Dillet, Priest. He could well place top 4 in the mid 90's.

[Papper]

One can argue that the lines up 2015 is so incredibly weak and it's now a battle of looking less like shit, rather than looking good.

Both Phil and Kai look really bad despite being the top two.

The nineties had more of what I consider to be good. Proportion, aestethics, balance and better waist lines. Along with more interesting characters.

My point is, most people beat him. Would he to be put in a lineup of the nineties he would look out of place and place bad.

Tom Platz had incredible musculature and big legs, so he was sort of ahead of his time but he didn't win it in 1980.

Marcus Ruhl another example of the conditioned complete mass being there but poor aestethics, not in line with the current fashion.

[Yamcha]

Bloofy Heath at his best. Average levrone.
You be the judge.

[Pet shop boys]

Paul Dillet was way better than Philsulin from the front. 

Which is more tan 50 %.




Woooshhhhhhhh

[BigCyp]

Hahaha love the fact that when he reads getbig, he is referred to as 'philsulin' more than his actual name 

[Nether Animal]

Bloofy Heath at his best. Average levrone.
You be the judge.

M³ is destroying him there.

[Alucard]

Paul Dillet was way better than Philsulin from the front. 

Which is more tan 50 %.




Woooshhhhhhhh

And from the back, when Dillett could pose it, he only lacked details... Heath would look like a shrimp next to him...

[MORTALCOIL]

Should be judged year by year. Pretty hard to tell how Phil would have placed in 91. He would have looked really awkward next to the 80s guys who were still placing high: Haney, Labrada, Vince Taylor, etc.....I guess he could have placed between 3rd and 5th in 1992 depending on what you focus on. No way he beats Yates and Levrone. Same in 93: Yates and Flex way better than he will ever be. 1994 weirdly would be even worse, I'll have him 5th, he would have looked really bad next to Dillett (even from the back- Dillett didn't have a weak back, he just couldn't pose to save his life).
1995: 4th or 5th, I still think it would have been tough to have a positive outlook on him next to guys like Ray or even Nasser. As the 90s went on, I think he would have placed better, specially from 1999 on when Flex, Ray, Nasser, Levrone (sure he looked great in 2000 and 2002 if you count legs completely out) went downhill. Could have been Ronnie's runner-up at his best but 'til 2007, I don't see Ronnie playing lower than Phil at his best. That's just ridiculous.

[Ronnie Rep]

Paul Dillet was way better than Philsulin from the front. 

Which is more tan 50 %.




Woooshhhhhhhh

Agree, 95 Arnold when he froze up would destroy Phil.

[Royalty]

Bruce Patterson was better than Phil Heath. So was Chris Duffy.

[falco]

Will it ever be like in the 90's?

[TheShape.]

Philippe is not even better than Franco.

[Yamcha]

Walking past the h8rz

[Royalty]

Resistance is futile

[Royalty]

30lb side raises. Forced reps!

[SF1900]

Bloofy Heath at his best. Average levrone.
You be the judge.

Why does Phil have that puffy/bloofy look to him?  You can clearly see in the pics how levrone has a different level of conditioning than him.

[Earl1972]

We always talk about the 90's were better, take the best today Phil and comparing him against the best of the 90s. We can provide pictures, video etc as the thread continues.

Phil is not better than the following people imo: Haney, Ronnie, Dorian, and Flex

Phil is better than Cormier, Levrone, Ray, and Dillet

There are more to add, that's just a start.

are you insane? 

the one guy that phil would clearly beat is haney yet you have him better than phil

if the judging was done correctly he could beat shawn and dillet

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[Wiggs]

are you insane? 

the one guy that phil would clearly beat is haney yet you have him better than phil

if the judging was done correctly he could beat shawn and dillet

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Haney is better than Phil. I'm sorry.  They weigh the same but Haney is better. Haney is granite, Phil is a balloon. T

[MORTALCOIL]

Haney is better than Phil. I'm sorry.  They weigh the same but Haney is better. Haney is granite, Phil is a balloon. T

Arguing with Earl? Seriously, my Nibrew? You'll turn Khazar before he posts something that makes sense.

[SquatsRule]

Haney is better than Phil. I'm sorry.  They weigh the same but Haney is better. Haney is granite, Phil is a balloon. T

Haney was great in his time, but he would lose today. His legs are too small and his conditioning is not good enough.

[Wiggs]

Haney was great in his time, but he would lose today. His legs are too small and his conditioning is not good enough.

And Phil would lose to Haney in his time.  A gut and a wide waist.  In addition, no SEOs.

[Wiggs]

This

beats this

Bloofy and Narrow

[Royal Lion]

I think Cormier is another 90s guy who would probably beat Phil.

[Wiggs]

Problem with Cormier is that Phil destroys him in the bdb pose. Other than that, Cormier is better.