Author Topic: Who is Phil better than from the 90s? (Read 21399 times)

mr.turbo · « **Reply #25 on:** July 08, 2015, 12:26:20 PM »

real talk

I put phil a little above rico mcclinton

EspenG · « **Reply #26 on:** July 08, 2015, 12:32:23 PM »

I can't believe those of you that really think Phil weighs close to 250. If Phil says so... A realistic estimate would be 230. Weight has a lot to do with height and width. Phil has neither. Just look at the lineup pics, when Phil is not standing two feet in front of the others. He disappear in comparisons. Imagine next to Haney. Even Yates did fade standing relaxed next to Haney. Why do anyone believe Phil stating his weight. With his insecurities we must at least take off ten percent...

Royal Lion · « **Reply #27 on:** July 08, 2015, 12:46:24 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on July 08, 2015, 12:22:32 PM

Problem with Cormier is that Phil destroys him in the bdb pose. Other than that, Cormier is better.

I'm not sure Phil would destroy him. Cormier's back was not a weakness.

Royal Lion · « **Reply #28 on:** July 08, 2015, 12:47:40 PM »

falco · « **Reply #29 on:** July 08, 2015, 12:50:07 PM »

Quote from: EspenG on July 08, 2015, 12:32:23 PM

I can't believe those of you that really think Phil weighs close to 250. If Phil says so... A realistic estimate would be 230. Weight has a lot to do with height and width. Phil has neither. Just look at the lineup pics, when Phil is not standing two feet in front of the others. He disappear in comparisons. Imagine next to Haney. Even Yates did fade standing relaxed next to Haney. Why do anyone believe Phil stating his weight. With his insecurities we must at least take off ten percent...

I will raise you another 10%!

Wiggs · « **Reply #30 on:** July 08, 2015, 12:50:20 PM »

Quote from: Royal Lion on July 08, 2015, 12:46:24 PM

I'm not sure Phil would destroy him. Cormier's back was not a weakness.

Beats him. I like Cormier's physique. Phil beats him in Bdb.

Royal Lion · « **Reply #31 on:** July 08, 2015, 12:57:13 PM »

Agree Phil beats him in rdb, but doesn't destroy him. I think Cormier is one of the more underrated 90s guys. He always compared well to Ronnie, Flex, Levrone, and Ray.

Earl1972 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 08, 2015, 07:17:33 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on July 08, 2015, 12:07:51 PM

Haney is better than Phil. I'm sorry. They weigh the same but Haney is better. Haney is granite, Phil is a balloon. T

haney is also taller and you can't tell me haney looks better

i would rather look like haney but he would not beat phil in a contest

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Royal Lion · « **Reply #33 on:** July 08, 2015, 07:31:29 PM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on July 08, 2015, 07:17:33 PM

haney is also taller and you can't tell me haney looks better

i would rather look like haney but he would not beat phil in a contest

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I disagree.

AbrahamG · « **Reply #34 on:** July 08, 2015, 08:45:34 PM »

Ronnie, Dorian and Haney all beat Phil.

Phil at his best beats the rest.

Flex Wheeler was never in shape from behind. Same with Nasser.

Phil is consistent with his condition and really knows how to peak on game day.

I rank him 4th just out side of Ronnie, Dorian and Haney.

Papper · « **Reply #35 on:** July 08, 2015, 09:05:07 PM »

You guys need to think about what it means to look good. If you discard proportion, aestethics and balance et cetera you're left with Branch Warren, Kai Greene and the likes with only mass och conditioning with no regards to other things. Not to mention the gut problem.

So to say Phil beath this and this one back in the nineties because he has crammed more mass onto his measly frame is too simple.

io856 · « **Reply #36 on:** July 08, 2015, 09:23:36 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on July 08, 2015, 12:50:20 PM

Beats him. I like Cormier's physique. Phil beats him in Bdb.

Phil wins from the back everytime

calfzilla · « **Reply #37 on:** July 08, 2015, 09:29:31 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on July 07, 2015, 04:02:20 PM

We always talk about the 90's were better, take the best today Phil and comparing him against the best of the 90s. We can provide pictures, video etc as the thread continues.

Phil is not better than the following people imo: Haney, Ronnie, Dorian, and Flex

Phil is better than Cormier, Levrone, Ray, and Dillet

There are more to add, that's just a start.

Are you high wiggs? Phil is not better than any of those guys. Doubt he's better than some nobody that finished 16th place in the 90s.

Walter Sobchak · « **Reply #38 on:** July 08, 2015, 09:39:06 PM »

Quote from: AbrahamG on July 08, 2015, 08:45:34 PM

Ronnie, Dorian and Haney all beat Phil.

Phil at his best beats the rest.

Flex Wheeler was never in shape from behind. Same with Nasser.

Phil is consistent with his condition and really knows how to peak on game day.

I rank him 4th just out side of Ronnie, Dorian and Haney.

This....

Coach is Back! · « **Reply #39 on:** July 08, 2015, 10:08:45 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on July 07, 2015, 04:02:20 PM

We always talk about the 90's were better, take the best today Phil and comparing him against the best of the 90s. We can provide pictures, video etc as the thread continues.

Phil is not better than the following people imo: Haney, Ronnie, Dorian, and Flex

Phil is better than Cormier, Levrone, Ray, and Dillet

There are more to add, that's just a start.

Wiggs, you know I love you brother. But you have to quit smoking that bad skunk weed. It's skewing your ability to think.

Bevo · « **Reply #40 on:** July 08, 2015, 11:45:58 PM »

I like flex but aside from 93 and 98 Arnold Classic his physique was overrated, inconsistent, oil all over shoulders and arms and frame can't put and hold on mass to play with the big boys

Flex is frail and tops out in the 218/220 range, 250 is too much for him to handle

pellius · « **Reply #41 on:** July 09, 2015, 01:13:55 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on July 08, 2015, 12:14:33 PM

And Phil would lose to Haney in his time. A gut and a wide waist. In addition, no SEOs.

I am no fan of Philsulina but he does not have a wide waist. And he isn't on the same level as Dillet and Levrone. But if he was transported to the 1980s he would beat Haney easily. And I consider Haney just behind Arnold and Coleman as far as the greatest O of all time.

The_Iron_Disciple · « **Reply #42 on:** July 09, 2015, 03:05:31 AM »

Phil Heath is a poor man's Aaron Baker. Yeah, I said it.

MORTALCOIL · « **Reply #43 on:** July 09, 2015, 03:40:16 AM »

Quote from: pellius on July 09, 2015, 01:13:55 AM

I am no fan of Philsulina but he does not have a wide waist. And he isn't on the same level as Dillet and Levrone. But if he was transported to the 1980s he would beat Haney easily. And I consider Haney just behind Arnold and Coleman as far as the greatest O of all time.

I don't get your post. If Haney comes right after Arnold and Coleman, you rank him ahead of Dorian then. So according to your logic, Phil would beat Dorian though he's not on the same level than Dillett or Levrone. Please explain.