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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #75 on: July 09, 2015, 04:46:37 PM »
I don't get your post. If Haney comes right after Arnold and Coleman, you rank him ahead of Dorian then. So according to your logic, Phil would beat Dorian though he's not on the same level than Dillett or Levrone. Please explain.

I take into account their era. That's why I can place Arnold first but admit that he wouldn't even place today.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #76 on: July 09, 2015, 04:53:58 PM »
No way Phil beats this.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iMftr3QnYXs

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdm3y1zgeJY

If you could stand the two together in real life during their prime you will see that Phil is thicker and more developed every where compared to Haney.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #77 on: July 09, 2015, 06:59:47 PM »
If you could stand the two together in real life during their prime you will see that Phil is thicker and more developed every where compared to Haney.

He would be smaller without his all-you-can-eat insulin buffet which Lee did not have at his disposal.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #78 on: July 09, 2015, 07:23:26 PM »
If you could stand the two together in real life during their prime you will see that Phil is thicker and more developed every where compared to Haney.

So was Bertil Fox.

And Haney's width dwarfed Bertil.

Haney was 5'-11" and 255 lbs and as cut as a lightweight

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #79 on: July 09, 2015, 09:43:00 PM »
If you could stand the two together in real life during their prime you will see that Phil is thicker and more developed every where compared to Haney.
I disagree. Haney's heighth and width would overwhelm Phil.  Phil has a thicker waist and obliques though.  ;D

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #80 on: July 09, 2015, 09:44:57 PM »
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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #81 on: July 10, 2015, 01:06:16 AM »
Haney is everything perfect about bodybuilding in the above shots. Size, shape, symmetry, aesthetics - everything. Even the slimmer legs made his physique look more like a superhuman athlete. Greeks sculptors would've salivated chiseling this shit.

As stupid as it's all become, dude was godly back then. Only Arnold compares.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #82 on: July 10, 2015, 01:40:06 AM »
Haney is everything perfect about bodybuilding in the above shots. Size, shape, symmetry, aesthetics - everything. Even the slimmer legs made his physique look more like a superhuman athlete. Greeks sculptors would've salivated chiseling this shit.

As stupid as it's all become, dude was godly back then. Only Arnold compares.


Good post. People forget just how great Haney was. And dominant.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #83 on: July 10, 2015, 02:04:07 AM »

Good post. People forget just how great Haney was. And dominant.

Didn't hurt that he was the classiest Olympian ever. Complete gentleman always.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #84 on: July 10, 2015, 02:24:55 AM »
Didn't hurt that he was the classiest Olympian ever. Complete gentleman always.


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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #85 on: July 10, 2015, 09:40:24 PM »
He would be smaller without his all-you-can-eat insulin buffet which Lee did not have at his disposal.

You're point being... Everyone, would be smaller without slin and gh. Would Flex have beaten Haney in Haney's era without the use of slin, gh and synthol -- I don't think so. I trained in the same gym as Flex in the early 1990s and though he seemed physically perfect he didn't have that overwhelming size and presence that Haney did. And Haney was only 23 years old when he first won the O. Flex was around 26 in 1991-92 when I use to see him.

People forget how young Haney was. He is two generations removed from the Coleman era yet he was only four years older than Coleman. Age wise they were contemporaries but from a bodybuilding stand point from very different generations. Haney was the last of the legit bodybuilders (if there is such a thing) until the distorted mass monsters took over.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #86 on: July 10, 2015, 10:58:37 PM »
You're point being... Everyone, would be smaller without slin and gh. Would Flex have beaten Haney in Haney's era without the use of slin, gh and synthol -- I don't think so. I trained in the same gym as Flex in the early 1990s and though he seemed physically perfect he didn't have that overwhelming size and presence that Haney did. And Haney was only 23 years old when he first won the O. Flex was around 26 in 1991-92 when I use to see him.

People forget how young Haney was. He is two generations removed from the Coleman era yet he was only four years younger than Coleman. Age wise they were contemporaries but from a bodybuilding stand point from very different generations. Haney was the last of the legit bodybuilders (if there is such a thing) until the distorted mass monsters took over.

I'm glad Haney competed when he did. We're, therefore, left with iconic images of a statuesque physique, rather than some grotesque lab experiment.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #87 on: July 10, 2015, 11:15:49 PM »
I am no fan of Heath and a huge fan of Haney. I like him better than Coleman though I put Coleman as second and Haney at third. But if he was competing today in his prime I think Phil would beat him easily. Phil is so much thicker and heavily muscled compared to Haney. Phil's arms, quads and arms makes Haney look skinny. And, though it's not as structurally wide, his back is also much thicker than Haney



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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #88 on: July 11, 2015, 12:52:24 AM »
You're point being... Everyone, would be smaller without slin and gh. Would Flex have beaten Haney in Haney's era without the use of slin, gh and synthol -- I don't think so. I trained in the same gym as Flex in the early 1990s and though he seemed physically perfect he didn't have that overwhelming size and presence that Haney did. And Haney was only 23 years old when he first won the O. Flex was around 26 in 1991-92 when I use to see him.

People forget how young Haney was. He is two generations removed from the Coleman era yet he was only four years younger than Coleman. Age wise they were contemporaries but from a bodybuilding stand point from very different generations. Haney was the last of the legit bodybuilders (if there is such a thing) until the distorted mass monsters took over.

Haney is not 4 years younger than Ronnie. He is 5 yrs older

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #89 on: July 11, 2015, 02:48:52 AM »
Haney looks great. Phil looks like shit.

Most agree! It's very simple. More mass on a weak frame is not better in any way.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #90 on: July 11, 2015, 02:59:35 AM »
Haney is not 4 years younger than Ronnie. He is 5 yrs older

Right. Got it reversed. Still it's amazing that they are the same generation age wise but from vastly different eras bbing wise.

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #91 on: July 11, 2015, 05:23:07 AM »
Paul Shawn Kevin flex Nasser Cormier I'd even take baker over Heath ...

Phil is an average pro with great arms that's it. 

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #92 on: July 11, 2015, 06:33:17 AM »
The first of his gifts...Dareem Should have won this show.

Darren won that show.... Bbing judging is so corrupt
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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #93 on: July 11, 2015, 07:16:43 AM »
Haney for the win! No way Heath makes him look "skinny."

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #94 on: July 11, 2015, 08:39:25 AM »
Comparing Phil to a great like Haney.  ::)

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #95 on: July 11, 2015, 12:47:26 PM »
Haney looks great. Phil looks like shit.

Most agree! It's very simple. More mass on a weak frame is not better in any way.


End of thread.




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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #96 on: July 11, 2015, 06:58:36 PM »
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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #97 on: July 11, 2015, 09:49:09 PM »
choice is an illusion

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #98 on: July 12, 2015, 11:41:57 AM »
Flex wheeler all day
Wheeler all day long, both narrow, but Flex with better structure and much better flow and lines... Both with round muscle bellies and about the same mass wise, but Flex looked much better... SEO arguments doesn't work since both used a lot...

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Re: Who is Phil better than from the 90s?
« Reply #99 on: July 12, 2015, 12:24:07 PM »
Phil and Ronnie are by far the 2 best BB who ever walked on that planet. None of those clowns mentioned in that thread comes close to #1 and #2 of all time ::)