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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2015, 06:41:35 PM »
Read Chattanooga Shooter’s Blog

The killer of four U.S. Marines in Chattanooga maintained a short-lived blog that hinted at his religious inner life.  Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez's blog had only two posts, both published July 13 and written in a popular style of Islamic religious reasoning.

The first post was entitled "A Prison Called Dunya," referring to the temporal world. In it, Abdulazeez uses the hypothetical example of a prisoner who is told he would be given a test that would either take him out of his earthly prison—or send him into a more restrictive environment.

"I would imagine that any sane person would devote their time to mastering the information on the study guide and stay patient with their studies, only giving time for the other things around to keep themselves focused on passing the exam," Abdulazeez wrote. "They would do this because they know and have been told that they will be rewarded with pleasures that they have never seen."

This life is that test, he wrote, "designed to separate the inhabitants of Paradise from the inhabitants of Hellfire."

The second post is called "Understanding Islam: The Story of the Three Blind Men." It suggests Abdulazeez felt his fellow Muslims had a "certain understanding of Islam and keep a tunnel vision of what we think Islam is."
He uses the example of blind men who feel an elephant but can't quite tell what the creature is. He says Muslims have a similar understanding of the earliest companions of the Prophet Muhammad. That they were "like priests living in monasteries is not true," he says; rather they were "towards the end of the lives were either a mayor of a town, governor of a state, or leader of an army at the frontlines."

"We ask Allah to make us follow their path," Abdulazeez wrote. "To give us a complete understanding of the message of Islam, and the strength the live by this knowledge, and to know what role we need to play to establish Islam in the world."

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2015/07/16/read-chattanooga-shooter-s-blog.html

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2015, 09:01:18 AM »
Obama is very quick with the excecutive orders....illigal shitbags, fags, transgenders etc etc...resind the nanny law that will then allow anybody with a CCP to carry on a DOD installation. Seems like I should not have to check my 2nd Amendment rights at that front gate. Actually I didn't today...I took the Kimber out of mothballs...loaded in some hollow points and shoved it under my car seat for the drive in. Wont do me much good in the office but we have armed security guards and a couple of biometric doors before I get smoked.
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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2015, 02:06:33 PM »
Tennessee terror suspect was armed to the teeth and ready for war with America
Published July 17, 2015
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The suspected Tennessee terrorist who killed four Marines was heavily armed and bent on waging war against America, according to local, state and federal authorities who spoke Friday, a day after the shocking attack at a military facility in Chattanooga.

Mohammad Youssef Abdulazeez, 24, a Kuwaiti-born Chattanooga resident who was killed by police to end his rampage, used an AK-47 to gun down the unarmed Marines after crashing into a gate at the Navy Operations Support Center, according to Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, the chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee. And the troubled gunman, who officials believe had become increasingly radicalized in recent months, wore an ammo vest with multiple rounds of ammunition, while carrying other weapons.

"Based on my experience, I think he was radicalized by these individuals in Syria."

- Rep. Mike McCaul, R-Texas
"Some of the weapons were purchased legally and some may not have been. We will examine that," FBI Special Agent in Charge Ed Reinhold said, speaking at a news conference in Chattanooga hours after McCaul gave his briefing.

In addition to the small arsenal Abdulazeez brought for his maniacal spree, authorities are investigating recent travels by the apparent Islamic radical, including a trip to Jordan in 2014 and another possible jaunt to Yemen.

Sources close to the investigation told Fox News authorities are trying to determine whether Abdulazeez had any contact with extremists during his seven-month stay in Jordan. Abdulazeez is believed to have traveled to the Middle East between April and November 2014.

Authorities continued to search Abdulazeez's computer Friday, but had not found an extensive online presence and had not uncovered evidence suggesting he was directly inspired by the Islamic State.

The FBI is investigating two blog posts written on Monday to determine if Abdulazeez was behind them, including one that proclaimed that life is "short and bitter" and urged readers to "submit to Allah," the Wall Street Journal reported. 

The National Counterterrorism Center said it is still reviewing its data holdings and watch lists and have so far found no positive hits for Abdulazeez, though it emphasized the review is ongoing.

At approximately 10:50 a.m. Thursday, the gunman opened fire from his silver Mustang convertible at a military recruitment center in a strip mall east of downtown Chattanooga, where one Marine was wounded. Authorities said the shooter then drove 7 miles to a Navy Operations Support Center, crashing his car through a security gate before opening fire on four Marines, killing them. A police officer and sailor were also wounded.

McCaul said Friday he believes Abdulazeez was radicalized online by ISIS members or their supporters in Syria.

"Based on my experience, I think he was radicalized by these individuals in Syria," he said during a press conference at MacDill Air Force Base in Tampa, Fla.

"This is a new generation of terrorists," said McCaul, who was briefed on the case by the FBI. "The threat is real and it comes from the Internet."

"They don't have to travel to Iraq and Syria," he added. "They're already here."

The FBI said Friday afternoon it could not confirm Abdulazeez was inspired by ISIS. Federal authorities also declined to elaborate on the specific weapons used. Reinhold told reporters during a separate news conference that Abdulazeez had "at least two long guns and one hand gun."

"Some of the weapons were purchased legally and some may not have been. We will examine that," Reinhold said.

Abdulazeez got an engineering degree from the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga in 2012 and worked as an intern a few years ago at the Tennessee Valley Authority, the federally owned utility that operates power plants and dams across the South. For the last three months, he had been working at Superior Essex Inc., which designs and makes wire and cable products.

In April, he was arrested on a drunken driving charge, and a mugshot showed him with a bushy beard. In earlier photos, he was clean-shaven.

Hussnain Javid said they graduated a few years apart from Red Bank High School in Chattanooga, where Abdulazeez was on the wrestling team and a popular student.

"He was very outgoing," said Javid, a 21-year-old senior at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga. "Everyone knew of him."

Javid said he occasionally saw Abdulazeez at the Islamic Society of Greater Chattanooga, but the last time was roughly a year ago.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/17/trip-to-radicalization-authorities-scrutinize-chattanooga-shooter-visit-to/

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #28 on: July 18, 2015, 06:10:13 PM »
Fifth service member dies after Chattanooga shooting

Navy Petty Officer Randall Smith, wounded in a shooting rampage in Tennessee, died early Saturday, according to a family member. He is the fifth American service member killed in the attack.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/us/tennessee-naval-reserve-shooting/index.html


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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2015, 12:57:11 PM »

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #30 on: July 24, 2015, 06:05:21 AM »
one of the volunteers had an accidential discharge outside of a military recruiting center he was guarding.

Charge his ass.  I doubt they will.  Trying to help, that's great, but if you're so poorly trained you can't prevent an accidential fcking discharge?   That's like EXTREME newbie gun mistake, or just being careless (more likely).  Charge his ass.  If this was some dude hanging on the corner drinking a slurpee and his gun fires, you charge him.




Armed man fires accidental shot near recruit center


Source: Lancaster Eagle-Gazette

An armed volunteer guarding the U.S. Army Recruiting Center accidentally fired a shot just after noon, according to Lancaster police.

Christopher Reed, 28, of Lancaster, is one of the volunteers who have been guarding the Lancaster recruiting site following the shooting and killing of five service members at an unguarded recruiting center in Chattanooga, Tennessee, last week.

The volunteers were a group of citizens who are guarding recruiting centers across the country. Their goal is to not stop guarding the recruiting centers until members of the military at recruiting centers were able to arm themselves for protection.

According to a Lancaster police report, the shooting occurred between 11:30 a.m. and 12:01 p.m. outside the recruiting office, 1534 River Valley Circle.

Read more: http://www.lancastereaglegazette.com/story/news/local/2015/07/23/armed-volunteer-fires-shot/30574117/

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #31 on: August 03, 2015, 05:18:07 PM »
Some pretty whacked priorities. 

What’s happening to this heroic Navy officer from the Chattanooga shooting will make your blood BOIL
Written by Allen West on August 1, 2015

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I never like to be reactionary and follow anything that may just be hyperbole or conspiracy theory. That’s why I held off on addressing this issue until I got confirmation — which came Friday afternoon via text message.

There are things which make you just upset, like the liberal progressive left and media accomplices’ rage over the shooting of a lion in Africa but abject disregard and disdain reference Planned Parenthood dismembering babies and selling their body parts.

But this story has me dog fighting mad and seriously pissed off.

As reported ten days ago by Western Journalism, “A Navy officer and Marine reportedly returned fire at the shooter who killed five service members in Chattanooga, Tenn., even though current policy does not permit military members to carry firearms on facilities such as those where the attack occurred.

The cold-blooded assault killed four Marines and one active-duty Navy reservist. The center’s commanding officer, Lt. Cmdr. Timothy White, used his personal firearm to engage the shooter during the attack, according to sources quoted in the Navy Times. A report from The Washington Post said that one of the Marines killed in the shooting might have been carrying a 9 mm Glock and possibly returned fire on the shooter.

At the time, Western Journalism wrote, Lt. Cmdr. White could face disciplinary action for violating policy about possessing a weapon on the facility that was supposedly a gun-free zone. The investigation into the attack is ongoing, and authorities will not know if White or the Marine hit the shooter until an autopsy and a ballistics report have been completed.

Ladies and gents, resulting from the text message I received yesterday, I can confirm that the United States Navy is bringing charges against Lt. Cmdr Timothy White for illegally discharging a firearm on federal property.

The text message asked if it would be possible for Lt.Cmdr White to reach out to me. To wit I replied, affirmative.

What kind of freaking idiots are in charge of our Armed Forces — pardon me, our “unArmed Forces”? What would they prefer that Abdulazeez had been able to kill all the Marines and Sailors at the Naval Support Reserve Center? Let me draw an interesting contrast: Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus is more concerned about lifting the ban on transgendered Sailors. Mabus has a problem in that for the first time since 2007 the US Navy will not have a Carrier Battle Group operating in the Persian Gulf. But this knucklehead has no problem with the Navy seeking to destroy the career of a Sailor, a commander of an installation, returning fire against an Islamic jihadist attack. I do not care if it was his personal weapon, he deserves a medal for facing the enemy.

Folks, this has become the Obama military that will not implement policies for our men and women in uniform to be protected — but will punish them if they do protect themselves. What ever happened to the Navy of John Paul Jones, Farragut, Halsey, and Nimitz? What has happened in our America where we believe that our men and women in uniform — especially the commanders — are just targets for these damn Islamic jihadists?

Can you imagine the message this sends to ISIS and all the enemies of America? We are going to end his career and court-martial a man who drew his sidearm to protect his command, and the assigned Sailors and Marines.

What is the difference between Lt. Cmdr White and the reserve officer in Moore, Oklahoma who went to his vehicle and armed himself to prevent a second woman from being beheaded? Is it that we expect less from our uniformed warriors? Are they just supposed to sit and be butchered, gunned down, until local law enforcement come along? Let’s be very clear here, I can attest that there are many reserve and National Guard troops who are carrying concealed during their drill periods…why? Because they are lions, not sheep, like the imbeciles who are making the decision to punish Lt. Cmdr White.

Doggone, what does it take? Here we have a known deserte,r Bowe Bergdahl, out getting picked up smoking marijuana, or at a house growing marijuana. According to Susan Rice, he served with honor and distinction. The real men of honor such as Army 1LT Clint Lorance, and now it seems Lt. Cmdr White, are forced into jail.

Ponder this, Obama will pardon drug dealers, but men who fight the enemy are imprisoned? Now, can someone, any one of you inane characterless liberal progressive trolls explain that to me? Explain it to us that you would rather have had more Sailors and Marines die than for this Navy Commander to draw his personal weapon in defense of his command. That’s what the Naval Support Center was for Lt. Cmdr White — his responsibility to defend, protect.

Here we have a president and secretary of state sitting down with a sworn enemy in Iran who holds four Americans hostage, and we’re going to bring charges against an American Naval Commander who returned fire against the enemy.

This is indeed FUBAR!

Here’s what needs to happen. Flood the phone of SecNav Ray Mabus and SecDef Carter and ask them whose side they’re. Demand the charges being brought against Lt.Cmdr White be immediately dropped. If those charges are not dropped, I will personally lead the charge to have Carter and Mabus removed from their positions.

America, this cannot be tolerated and must not be allowed to stand. I guess the life of an African lion means more to these liberal progressives than one of our brave Sailors. It is beyond belief that the Navy would embark upon this folly — they could simply issue a “local letter of reprimand” that would not enter into Lt. Cmdr White’s permanent personnel file — then immediately pin a medal upon his chest and fast track him for promotion to Commander.

White exemplifies the highest and finest of character and tradition of the US Navy. Those who would bring charges against him are indeed cowards and need be exposed.

Lieutenant Commander Timothy White, I await your call, and I will not rest until these charges against you have been dropped. You stay strong. You showed that you are Steadfast and Loyal. And we will not allow you to be abandoned to the perfumed princes of the Pentagon…and the White House. America shall rally to your cause!

This is just another in the long line of reasons why we must NEVER allow a progressive socialist to be commander-in-chief.

http://allenbwest.com/2015/08/whats-happening-to-this-heroic-navy-officer-from-the-chattanooga-shooting-will-make-your-blood-boil/

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #32 on: August 03, 2015, 07:40:35 PM »
'would rather be tried by 12 than carried by 6'.

The same goes for every pizza man, hospital worker, mall worker, security guard, whoever, that decides their personal safety is worth more than the consequences for the rules violation.   It's awesome he protected, but he DID violate legal documents he signed, he DID violate the law by carrying in a non-carry zone, and it was probably a felony that he did over and over.

I guess what I'm saying is - are you 100% cool with EVERY PERSON in the USA, carrying in EVERY anti-gun place?  Jails?  Courthouses?  Schools?  Or just when it happens to save the day? 

I'm all for expanded carry, but you can't just ignore laws when convenient.  I taught for 7 years in very rough schools where some of those kids DID have weapons, and I left my weapon in the car, even though it TOTALLY sucked to do that.  Cause i knew, even if I stopped someone bad, it'd be due to my committing a felony and carrying in a no-no zone.

just follow the rules, stop making exceptions.  if you dislike it, make some better fcking rules.


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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #33 on: August 03, 2015, 07:51:51 PM »
And that is the kind of simplistic thought process that results in stupid prosecutions like this. 

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #34 on: August 03, 2015, 08:02:54 PM »
And that is the kind of simplistic thought process that results in stupid prosecutions like this. 

it's actually pretty simple.   Carry a gun a no-gun zone, and it's a felony.

I don't get to carry my gun, 99% of teh others don't get to carry, but this man just decides to?

No matter the outcome, he did commit a felony, over and over.   Now, if you want to say felonies are okay if we don't agree with the law, go ahead and say that, but don't compain when someone sells crack on your porch or steals your car.

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #35 on: August 03, 2015, 08:04:09 PM »
I know right?  The Pizza Hut delivery guy will be shooting up the place.

Holy smokes.   :-[

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #36 on: August 03, 2015, 08:09:01 PM »
I know right?  The Pizza Hut delivery guy will be shooting up the place.

Holy smokes.   :-[

in either case, the military has decided to charge the man.   They agree with me, not you.  It's the law, and it sucks, and it needs changed, but people can't just pick and choose.  The mans' a hero, but he also broke the law quite a bit if he carried every day, when law-abidind people could not.

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #37 on: August 03, 2015, 08:15:11 PM »
Yes, sometimes people both in and out of the military make stupid decisions. 

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #38 on: August 03, 2015, 08:19:40 PM »
Yes, sometimes people both in and out of the military make stupid decisions. 

dont get me wrong, the dude is a hero.   I think they should charge him, but let him plead with some minor slap on wrist.  If they don't do anything, then 100,000 people will bring their gun to work tomorrrow, against rules, because 'they didn't charge that one guy..."

the bigger issue is the lack of security.  I was shocked to find some jackass can get in there like that with a weapon.  I have to walk thru metal detector and stare at a militant security guard and get my drivers license renewed thru thick glass.... and they don't protect our military with anywhere near that level?

I'm glad he did what he did, and hope they charge him but let him off very easily.

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Re: 4 Marines killed in attacks on Chattanooga military facilities
« Reply #39 on: August 03, 2015, 08:26:28 PM »
Yes, 100,000 people will bring their guns to work.  We will have shootouts at employer coffee stations nationwide.  Utter pandemonium.   :o