Why is it so difficult to have a great back double bicep?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Shows are won by the back, not the calves

That depends on who you're competing with. If all things are equal and one guy has calves and the other doesn't guess who's going to win?

[DroppingPlates]

That depends on who you're competing with. If all things are equal and one guy has calves and the other doesn't guess who's going to win?

That's true, but I can't remember a lineup where this scenario was the case.

[NarcissisticDeity]

That's true, but I can't remember a lineup where this scenario was the case.

Good point but calves complete the pose. Can't have the best back double biceps pose if you're missing calves same with any pose.

[DroppingPlates]

Good point but calves complete the pose. Can't have the best back double biceps pose if you're missing calves same with any pose.

It hurts the image, but I believe that Dexter Jackson has one of the best physiques ever.

[affeman]

Best BDB right here!!!

nope, 3rd place actually

[mr.turbo]

nope, 3rd place actually

how do you feel about dennis wolf's bdb?

[mr.turbo]

[affeman]

Honorable mention

[NarcissisticDeity]

Phil's is complete but fuck me he's getting dwarfed lol he looks like 6lbs of sugar stuffed in a 5lb bag

[Papper]

They've ridden the sport from any calf standard just as waist lines are not important either.

[Parker]

Phil's is complete but fuck me he's getting dwarfed lol he looks like 6lbs of sugar stuffed in a 5lb bag

Phil leans backwards too much. Why he does it, is anybody's guess. It makes him look shorter

nope, 3rd place actually

Meh

[mr.turbo]

Honorable mention

beautiful

[Alucard]

We already talked about Dillett shortcomings countless times... He had a back, great insertions and phenomenal lats, just couldn't train it and pose it properly... Done after 1994? I wouldn't say that... Of course his peak was '93-'94, the ASC incident seemed to worsen his already poor mind-muscle connection and take away his motivation, in 1995 was already in-out of surgeries with no cartilage in his shoulders and doctors telling him to stop bodybuilding... But bounced back good in 1996, peaking at the Ironman and ASC, not at the Olympia and other shows unfortunately... In 1997 he had a decent ASC and a good Olympia, where he was 3rd before a less known but big controversy happened placing him 5th in the end, favoring Levrone and Ray who both complained and cried with Manion, if i remember correctly... Dillett talked shortly about this at the start of the 1998 BFTO, talking a bit of smack about both Levrone and Ray... In the end, i think that his decline really started in 1998, and declined fast...

[Iceman1981]

Honorable mention

The lighting at that show was really bad.

[Iceman1981]

Good point but calves complete the pose. Can't have the best back double biceps pose if you're missing calves same with any pose.

Your buddy Peter McGough actually thought the opposite at the 1997 Mr. Olympia where he thought Ronnie (who had shit calves) had the best BDB in the whole show which included Yates who has better calves than Ronnie  

Let's say for argument sake both backs are equal on both bodybuilders, a better pair of arms are more important than a better pair of calves. Just ask Dexter 

[NarcissisticDeity]

Your buddy Peter McGough actually thought the opposite at the 1997 Mr. Olympia where he thought Ronnie (who had shit calves) had the best BDB in the whole show which included Yates who has better calves than Ronnie  

Let's say for argument sake both backs are equal on both bodybuilders, a better pair of arms are more important than a better pair of calves. Just ask Dexter  

He had a better back double biceps compared to a career worst Dorian with a torn bicep and a torn tricep lmao Wow-wee not really saying much , and the judges thought otherwise , Dorian 1st , Ronnie 9th  

And Dexter compared to who?

[Papper]

Phil leans backwards too much. Why he does it, is anybody's guess. It makes him look shorter Meh

perhaps he is accentuating his v-shape by having his traps and shoulders closer to the viewer. If he stood straighter like Kai he would look less v-shaped than him and narrower.

[wes]

In answer to Wiggs` question,it`s because a good mind/muscle connection is hard to establish for most trainees when training back.

Just my 2 cc`s !!  

[Thin Lizzy]

I liked Shawn's. Not over the top huge, but solid all around development and detail:

[DroppingPlates]

In answer to Wiggs` question,it`s because a good mind/muscle connection is hard to establish for most trainees when training back.

Just my 2 cc`s !!  

In general I see two problems, sloppy momentum-like movements and not squeezing the shoulder blades. It's not that hard to fix these as long as someone is willing to learn...

[NarcissisticDeity]

I liked Shawn's. Not over the top huge, but solid all around development and detail:

[Royalty]

nope, 3rd place actually

[DroppingPlates]

Munzer had even some veins on his back, you don't see that often..

[Thin Lizzy]

Going back a bit further, Beckles had some impressive back detail:

[old-school-lifter]

beckles had a great BDB

often forgotten is Momo Benaziza