Author Topic: How do I know if I need HRT? (Read 12232 times)

Never1AShow · « **on:** July 28, 2015, 06:00:12 AM »

Can a family doctor make this call or do I need to go to one of those special clinics that specializes in diagnosing this?

BigRo · « **Reply #1 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:03:56 AM »

I family doctor probably wont give a shit about low testosterone, they will if its high though. A simple blood test will tell you your test level.

Never1AShow · « **Reply #2 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:20:41 AM »

I doubt my family doctor even includes this on my yearly blood test, is test level something normally measured?

This seems like something I'd need to ask for or see a specialist about. I often feel more tired and run down than I used to and also more cranky/angry. Is that just life and the pressures of middle age? Is it andropause? But I am in good shape, lean, work out, good libido (except when tired from work). It's just a lot harder than it used to be to keep the fire burning.

BigRo · « **Reply #3 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:24:58 AM »

My level was tested when I went to the GP but that was probably because I admitted to using test. Are there any TRT endocrinologists in your area?

Croatch · « **Reply #4 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:26:50 AM »

It's pretty simple. If you're over 32 and couldn't make decent gains in a gym and are looking for a "valid" reason to hop on the sauce....you qualify. Happens all the time. Remember, anabolics are bodybuildings consolation prize.
I always recommend someone join a bowling league or racquet ball club instead. Nothing worse than walking around "acting as if".

_aj_ · « **Reply #5 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:27:39 AM »

Are your muscles big enough?

__ YES
__ NO

Check one.

BigRo · « **Reply #6 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:32:04 AM »

how does that work, will you have to take blood from your arm yourself?

_aj_ · « **Reply #7 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:34:00 AM »

Quote from: CaptainFreedom on July 28, 2015, 06:30:44 AM

I've just ordered an online blood test this week cause I'm feeling like shit when exercising. Only cost 50 quid and you don't have to worry about spinning any bullshit excuse to your doc. If it's really low then I'll maybe go mention it to them.

I did this. Came back low. Took it to my doc. He retested, came back low. Still didn't want to put me on TRT so I fucking did it myself.

BigRo · « **Reply #8 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:37:27 AM »

ah that sounds fine, thought it was needle in to the vein.

_aj_ · « **Reply #9 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:40:36 AM »

Quote from: CaptainFreedom on July 28, 2015, 06:39:01 AM

Fair one, that's what I did once when I dieted down stupidly low and couldn't really recover. I jumped on 250 test a week just to try it, felt amazing but had horrendous side effects with it so came off after about 12 weeks. Wasn't worth it for me.
I'm hoping if I do come back low again that I could just do a course of hcg and cut down the cardio for a bit

What kind of sides on 250? That's a pretty minuscule dose overall.

OneMoreRep · « **Reply #10 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:44:57 AM »

Quote from: Never1AShow on July 28, 2015, 06:00:12 AM

Can a family doctor make this call or do I need to go to one of those special clinics that specializes in diagnosing this?

A family doctor can run labs that will determine whether your testosterone levels are low.

If you are looking to start HRT, consider going to an endocrinologist. They specialize in these matters and can properly start you on TRT with appropriate lab work every 3-6 months as needed.

Good luck.

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_aj_ · « **Reply #11 on:** July 28, 2015, 06:50:01 AM »

Very soon, I will make the transition to TRT. Need to find a doc that believes that 200+ is the "sweet spot". NFW am I gonna drop to 125mg/3 weeks.

My HPTA is shut down, no shots for 3 weeks and my test will be in the negative numbers.

Come out of the shadows!

liberty · « **Reply #12 on:** July 28, 2015, 07:14:14 AM »

Yuh you got to find the right doc....My doc said as long as your within 'the range' he won't do it.
His reasoning is that if he prescribes it to someone who really isn't that low or near low that if anything happened to them relating to testosterone supplementation he could be sued and lose his practice/business.He also added that if he prescribes it to Joe that Joe might be ok but if he prescribes it to Rick that Rick may suffer some side effect or something more serious.

Tapeworm · « **Reply #13 on:** July 28, 2015, 07:25:24 AM »

Quote from: CaptainFreedom on July 28, 2015, 06:39:01 AM

hcg

Great stuff. Always meant to chain up a pregnant woman in the basement & make my own.

Also oxandrolone for strength. Girly drugs are great. I didn't like test either. It made me unpleasant.

Coffeed · « **Reply #14 on:** July 28, 2015, 07:36:38 AM »

Endocrinologists typically know nothing about TRT. You'll want to find a doctor who specializes in HRT. Typically it's an internist. But by and large, TRT is not taught in formal medical training so 9/10 doctors won't know anything about it other than the 1 day lecture they had a decade ago.

da_vinci · « **Reply #15 on:** July 28, 2015, 07:56:35 AM »

If your arms are under 19' (no flab) - you are pretty much a perfect candidate for HRT.

Never1AShow · « **Reply #16 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:02:17 AM »

Quote from: Coffeed on July 28, 2015, 07:36:38 AM

Endocrinologists typically know nothing about TRT. You'll want to find a doctor who specializes in HRT. Typically it's an internist. But by and large, TRT is not taught in formal medical training so 9/10 doctors won't know anything about it other than the 1 day lecture they had a decade ago.

This was my entirely uninformed guess about how it lies. Is it pretty much like a little bit more formal medical marijuana type deal where you go in to a place that does HRT and everyone walks away with HRT that wants it? Insurance paid also (probably pretty cheap anyway)?

Yamcha · « **Reply #17 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:03:32 AM »

Quote from: da_vinci on July 28, 2015, 07:56:35 AM

If your arms are under 19' (no flab) - you are pretty much a perfect candidate for HRT.

So you are saying that no one on GetBig is a perfect candidate then?

MAXX · « **Reply #18 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:15:17 AM »

trt will fuck your natural levels just like high dosages will.

start and you will have to use for life.

da_vinci · « **Reply #19 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:18:48 AM »

Quote from: Yamcha on July 28, 2015, 08:03:32 AM

So you are saying that no one on GetBig is a perfect candidate then?

Assuming Down Hill does not have a gimmick account, you are pretty much right.

da_vinci · « **Reply #20 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:20:06 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on July 28, 2015, 08:15:17 AM

trt will fuck your natural levels just like high dosages will.

start and you will have to use for life.

Does not sound like a big deal. I'd use anything and evertyhing in sight till my last breath if that would enable me to prolong wellbeing/youth/strength/agility..

_aj_ · « **Reply #21 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:26:17 AM »

Quote from: MAXX on July 28, 2015, 08:15:17 AM

trt will fuck your natural levels just like high dosages will.

start and you will have to use for life.

I waited until I was 49 and my natural levels were in free-fall anyway. It wasn't a moralistic decision, it was just that it didn't dawn on me to hop on gear. It was only when I noticed that I was getting tired, libido fading and a really bad tendon injury that I started looking into it. I was all about TRT until my doc (who I like) denied the scrip. Fine.

Been on 200-250 for a little over a year and my bloods are unchanged. I think that it's wise to let people know that there is a suppression of natural test, but I've had friends go on TRT and come off after 6 months and bounce back in a couple of months.

That said, some regimins are about quality of life.

Agnostic007 · « **Reply #22 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:41:05 AM »

I wouldn't recommend paying for a mail order blood test. Most doctors will actually want to have the test done themselves. Your GP can get Test results if you specifically ask for them to be included in the blood workup.. but if you know going in your doc is not a fan of TRT then don't waste your time. Go to a Urologist who specializes in it. One of your friends can likely give you a recommendation. I switched from the gel (family doctor ) to pellets (Urologist) and prefer the urologist. He listens to my input on whether I want to up the dosage or not. He won't go over 1100 but I don't want to either. He keeps me around 900-1000 and I'm good there.

Coffeed · « **Reply #23 on:** July 28, 2015, 08:50:54 AM »

Quote from: Never1AShow on July 28, 2015, 08:02:17 AM

This was my entirely uninformed guess about how it lies. Is it pretty much like a little bit more formal medical marijuana type deal where you go in to a place that does HRT and everyone walks away with HRT that wants it? Insurance paid also (probably pretty cheap anyway)?

If your goal is quality of life then there are doctors who specialize in stuff like this. You'll find plenty in bigger cities but just do a little research online first.

If you just want to abuse a prescription then I've seen a lot of news articles regarding Florida being a state with many crooked doctors who don't really give a shit!

Never1AShow · « **Reply #24 on:** July 28, 2015, 05:36:15 PM »

Quote from: Agnostic007 on July 28, 2015, 08:41:05 AM

I wouldn't recommend paying for a mail order blood test. Most doctors will actually want to have the test done themselves. Your GP can get Test results if you specifically ask for them to be included in the blood workup.. but if you know going in your doc is not a fan of TRT then don't waste your time. Go to a Urologist who specializes in it. One of your friends can likely give you a recommendation. I switched from the gel (family doctor ) to pellets (Urologist) and prefer the urologist. He listens to my input on whether I want to up the dosage or not. He won't go over 1100 but I don't want to either. He keeps me around 900-1000 and I'm good there.

Pellets or gel? I really do need to google, I assumed it was shots.