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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #225 on: August 03, 2015, 03:50:01 PM »
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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #226 on: August 03, 2015, 09:56:19 PM »
what would happen if you were placed alone in a room with a lion or encountered one out in the wild?
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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #227 on: August 03, 2015, 11:23:23 PM »
How many animals have to die for a lion to live?  Why doesn't anybody give a flying fuck about all the animals that a lion kills?  What makes the lion's life more important?
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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #228 on: August 03, 2015, 11:33:12 PM »
How come no one ever bitches about fishermen?

Stinky? Slimy? Not cute enough?

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #229 on: August 04, 2015, 02:24:57 AM »
How come no one ever bitches about fishermen?

Stinky? Slimy? Not cute enough?

There's plenty of fish

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #230 on: August 04, 2015, 02:29:36 AM »
There's plenty of fish
No there's not, all seafood supplies are predicted to be wiped out by 2048.  Lions will outlive fish easily, thanks to their being an economic incentive created by Hunting them,  Thanks hunters.
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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #231 on: August 04, 2015, 02:51:19 AM »
Hunting for food is one thing, hunting for sport is another.

The former is just being part of a food chain which is as old as life itself, the latter however is unnecessary and wasteful. It almost feels like a form of sadism - killing just for the "fun" of it.

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #232 on: August 04, 2015, 03:21:26 AM »
No there's not, all seafood supplies are predicted to be wiped out by 2048.  Lions will outlive fish easily, thanks to their being an economic incentive created by Hunting them,  Thanks hunters.

This might be true for sea fish, but not for farmed fish.

Lions will outlive fish easily? Then please explain why there are so many of them listed here

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #233 on: August 04, 2015, 09:59:19 AM »
There's plenty of fish

That's it? More lions, no one bitches?

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #234 on: August 04, 2015, 12:28:12 PM »
what would happen if you were placed alone in a room with a lion or encountered one out in the wild?

it would be sexy time.

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #235 on: August 04, 2015, 02:22:30 PM »
Why Wiggzer Jeezzuuss didn't save that lion  ;D

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #236 on: August 04, 2015, 02:58:35 PM »
That's it? More lions, no one bitches?

I can only speak for myself, I love their beauty..


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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #237 on: August 05, 2015, 01:04:20 AM »
I can only speak for myself, I love their beauty..



As do most. Just wondering how it's decided where and why we become outraged. Numbers, beauty, sad brown eyes/floppy ears, capacity for pain ...?

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #238 on: August 05, 2015, 02:35:22 AM »
As do most. Just wondering how it's decided where and why we become outraged. Numbers, beauty, sad brown eyes/floppy ears, capacity for pain ...?

Good question.. Most human beings tend to express themselves as rational beings, but they aren't.  I wouldn't give a piss when the last spider or centipede would die.

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #239 on: August 05, 2015, 03:54:34 AM »
Good question.. Most human beings tend to express themselves as rational beings, but they aren't.  I wouldn't give a piss when the last spider or centipede would die.

Of course, if all spiders died, we'd be inundated with pest insects inside a year. Wheel of life.

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #240 on: August 05, 2015, 03:57:20 AM »
Of course, if all spiders died, we'd be inundated with pest insects inside a year. Wheel of life.
or should we say "web of life". All things are interconnected. Checks and balances.

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #241 on: August 05, 2015, 03:59:38 AM »
Of course, if all spiders died, we'd be inundated with pest insects inside a year. Wheel of life.

OK, there you have a point..

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #243 on: August 05, 2015, 04:04:39 AM »
Lion lives matter
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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #244 on: August 05, 2015, 05:38:23 AM »
In Zimbabwe, We Don’t Cry for Lions

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/opinion/in-zimbabwe-we-dont-cry-for-lions.html?_r=0

They're too busy with reproducing and surviving to give a fuck..

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #245 on: September 07, 2015, 05:37:26 AM »
US dentist who killed Cecil the lion set to return to work
By Brian Bakst 

MINNEAPOLIS — The Minnesota dentist whose killing of Cecil the lion sparked a global backlash emerged for an interview in which he disputed some accounts of the hunt, expressed agitation at the animosity directed at those close to him and said he would be back at work within days.

Walter Palmer, who has spent more than a month out of sight after becoming the target of protests and threats, intends to return to his suburban Minneapolis dental practice Tuesday. In an interview Sunday evening conducted jointly by The Associated Press and the Minneapolis Star Tribune that advisers said would be the only one granted, Palmer said again that he believes he acted legally and that he was stunned to find out his hunting party had killed one of Zimbabwe’s treasured animals.

“If I had known this lion had a name and was important to the country or a study obviously I wouldn’t have taken it,” Palmer said. “Nobody in our hunting party knew before or after the name of this lion.”

Cecil was a fixture in the vast Hwange National Park and had been fitted with a GPS collar as part of Oxford University lion research. Palmer said he shot the big cat with the black mane using an arrow from his compound bow outside the park’s borders but it didn’t die immediately. He disputed conservationist accounts that the wounded lion wandered for 40 hours and was finished off with a gun, saying it was tracked down the next day and killed with an arrow.

An avid sportsman, Palmer shut off several lines of inquiry about the hunt, including how much he paid for it or others he has undertaken. No videotaping or photographing of the interview was allowed. During the 25-minute interview, Palmer gazed intensely at his questioners, often fiddling with his hands and turning occasionally to an adviser, Joe Friedberg, to field questions about the fallout and his legal situation.

Some high-level Zimbabwean officials have called for Palmer’s extradition, but no formal steps toward getting the dentist to return to Zimbabwe have been publicly disclosed. Friedberg, a Minneapolis attorney who said he is acting as an unpaid consultant to Palmer, said he has heard nothing from authorities about domestic or international investigations since early August.

Friedberg said he offered to have Palmer take questions from U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service authorities on the condition the session be recorded. He said he never heard back.

 “I’m not Walter’s lawyer in this situation because Walter doesn’t need a lawyer in this situation,” said Friedberg, who said he knew Palmer through previous matters. “If some governmental agency or investigative unit would make a claim that he violated some law then we’d talk about it.”

Ben Petok, a spokesman for U.S. Attorney Andy Luger, declined comment about conversations with Friedberg and referred questions to Fish and Wildlife. An agency spokeswoman didn’t immediately return a call or an email Sunday evening.

After Palmer was named in late July as the hunter who killed Cecil, his Bloomington clinic and Eden Prairie home became protest sites, and a vacation property he owns in Florida was vandalized. Palmer has been vilified across social media, with some posts suggesting violence against him. He described himself as “heartbroken” for causing disruptions for staff at his clinic, which was shuttered for weeks until reopening in late August without him on the premises. And he said the ordeal has been especially hard on his wife and adult daughter, who both felt threatened.

“I don’t understand that level of humanity to come after people not involved at all,” Palmer said.

As for himself, he said he feels safe enough to return to work — “My staff and my patients support me and they want me back” — but declined to say where he’s spent the last six weeks or describe security steps he has taken.

“I’ve been out of the public eye. That doesn’t mean I’m in hiding,” Palmer said. “I’ve been among people, family and friends. Location is really not that important.”

Palmer, who has several big-game kills to his name, reportedly paid thousands of dollars for the guided hunt but wouldn’t talk money on Sunday.

Theo Bronkhorst, a professional hunter who helped Palmer, has been charged with “failure to prevent an illegal hunt.” Honest Ndlovu, whose property is near the park in western Zimbabwe, faces a charge of allowing the lion hunt to occur on his farm without proper authority.

Asked whether he would return to Zimbabwe for future hunts, Palmer said, “I don’t know about the future.” He estimated he had been there four times and said, “Zimbabwe has been a wonderful country for me to hunt in, and I have always followed the laws.”

In addition to the Cecil furor, Palmer pleaded guilty in 2008 to making false statements to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service about a black bear he fatally shot in western Wisconsin outside of the authorized hunting zone. He was given one year probation and fined nearly $3,000 as part of a plea agreement.

Cecil’s killing set off a fierce debate over trophy hunting in Africa. Zimbabwe tightened regulations for lion, elephant and leopard hunting after the incident, and three major U.S. airlines changed policies to ban shipment of the trophies.


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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #246 on: September 07, 2015, 06:34:46 AM »
He still hasn't decided if he'll go back to hunt.  unreal.  Just STFU and change your name, or just tell the world you still want to illegally kill shit.  Don't try to be both.

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #247 on: September 07, 2015, 06:36:19 AM »
He still hasn't decided if he'll go back to hunt.  unreal.  Just STFU and change your name, or just tell the world you still want to illegally kill shit.  Don't try to be both.


You should go professional at being offended.  You're that good at it.  Elite level
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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #248 on: September 07, 2015, 06:38:53 AM »
He still hasn't decided if he'll go back to hunt.  unreal.  Just STFU and change your name, or just tell the world you still want to illegally kill shit.  Don't try to be both.

Changing his name won't safe him. He better go for a sex change..

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Re: Hunter who killed beloved lion identified. Dentist from Minnesota
« Reply #249 on: September 07, 2015, 06:40:30 AM »
Changing his name won't safe him. He better go for a sex change..
Change his name to Cecilia.