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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #150 on: August 04, 2015, 09:19:04 AM »
She has ZERO chance against Caine , she stands ZERO chance against someone her own weight like T.J Dillashaw

Wait, Cain? She really said that? Beyond delusional.

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #151 on: August 04, 2015, 09:21:37 AM »
I'd imagine because of how she talks about it.
She has no intention at all of fighting a man, she's a great self publicist, she knows Mayweather wont take her up on the offer.
She's just making a point about his spousal abuse.

She's also doing a good job of trolling this forum.

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #152 on: August 04, 2015, 10:56:15 AM »
She has ZERO chance against Caine , she stands ZERO chance against someone her own weight like T.J Dillashaw , watch this and he wasn't even trying






Dana or the Rhonda nuthuggers wont be happy she got manhandled by man..

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #153 on: August 04, 2015, 03:40:43 PM »
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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #154 on: August 04, 2015, 03:43:14 PM »



Dana or the Rhonda nuthuggers wont be happy she got manhandled by man..


Nah. It's expected. She does that to better herself. Must be good to keep her grounded. But that guy is much bigger and weighs a hell of a lot more than her. Even if she was a man, the difference is size is unfair.

But he sure made it look easy, lol... I wasen't surprised though it went that way. If she gave up no real fight to him, imagine the other female fighters???
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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #155 on: August 04, 2015, 04:41:41 PM »
It is hard to take you seriously when all you have to offer is ad hominem attacks.  if you actually has an argument to back up your claims it might be different.

Violence is in a males nature and has offered him at times a great evolutionary advantage.  Violence isn't a part of a woman's nature and has little to no evolutionary benefit, hence the reason most women don't feel drawn to violent sports like MMA and the reason they aren't very good at it.   So due to this, it is likely there will never be a deep female division in any fighting sport, there will always be a freak exception like Rhonda, but unlikely her ability would ever become the norm among other females.

It's hard to take you seriously when you repeatedly state that if Ronda isn't as good or better than a man then her accomplishments aren't that impressive.

Her division isn't weak, she is just vastly superior to every woman that she has fought thus far.  She cleaned everyone out.  Eventually she will fight that steroid freak Cyborg and we can put all that shit to rest as well.

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #156 on: August 04, 2015, 07:03:57 PM »



Dana or the Rhonda nuthuggers wont be happy she got manhandled by man..


Isn't that Gegard Moussassi?

That guy would shitkick every getbigger on this board.

That dude is a beast.

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #157 on: August 05, 2015, 09:07:47 PM »
she should fight a guy 1 weight division lower than her

winner take all purse

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #158 on: August 06, 2015, 03:57:35 AM »
It's hard to take you seriously when you repeatedly state that if Ronda isn't as good or better than a man then her accomplishments aren't that impressive.

Her division isn't weak, she is just vastly superior to every woman that she has fought thus far.  She cleaned everyone out.  Eventually she will fight that steroid freak Cyborg and we can put all that shit to rest as well.
I know she isn't even close to the best male fighters.  I would prefer to never discuss the obvious, but even Rhonda herself has stated she believes she has a chance against Cain Velasquez, plus all the Rhonda nuthuggers constantly claiming she could beat male UFC fighters.  Because this claim constantly gets made, it needs to be constantly countered with what is obvious to anybody reasonable, that Rhonda is a decent female fighter but would struggle defeating even the weakest men in the UFC fighter roster.  

And I am not denying she cleaned out her division, just that the division is weak. This is like heaping praise on Michael Jordan for dominating a shoolboy's basketball team. No one is denying Rhonda is a good fighter, but making a big deal of beating up cans seems absurd.  I also don't believe Rhonda could beat Cyborg and I also don't believe Rhonda is a clean athlete.

 If you think her division is strong, you most certainly haven't spent much time analyzing the fighting sports.  Any amateur can tell when a fighter hasn't mastered even the basics, throwing a jab, basic combinations, footwork, stance, technique etc, . Even Rhonda's skills, especially her stand-up is easily criticized in terms of technique and execution, and she is considered the best in the division.  
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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #159 on: August 06, 2015, 04:48:01 AM »
I know she isn't even close to the best male fighters.  I would prefer to never discuss the obvious, but even Rhonda herself has stated she believes she has a chance against Cain Velasquez, plus all the Rhonda nuthuggers constantly claiming she could beat male UFC fighters.  Because this claim constantly gets made, it needs to be constantly countered with what is obvious to anybody reasonable, that Rhonda is a decent female fighter but would struggle defeating even the weakest men in the UFC fighter roster.  

And I am not denying she cleaned out her division, just that the division is weak. This is like heaping praise on Michael Jordan for dominating a shoolboy's basketball team. No one is denying Rhonda is a good fighter, but making a big deal of beating up cans seems absurd.  I also don't believe Rhonda could beat Cyborg and I also don't believe Rhonda is a clean athlete.

 If you think her division is strong, you most certainly haven't spent much time analyzing the fighting sports.  Any amateur can tell when a fighter hasn't mastered even the basics, throwing a jab, basic combinations, footwork, stance, technique etc, . Even Rhonda's skills, especially her stand-up is easily criticized in terms of technique and execution, and she is considered the best in the division.  

You keep writing this yet you have zero evidence at all.
She dominates because shes the best by far.
When was her division strong by the way?

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #160 on: August 06, 2015, 05:00:54 AM »
You keep writing this yet you have zero evidence at all.
She dominates because shes the best by far.
When was her division strong by the way?
Her division has NEVER been strong, it's a new sport, it might be a hundred years before it becomes comparable to a mens fighting roster.  I have pointed this out before in this thread, female fighting will likely always be weak, as women aren't drawn to fighting sports, it's not in their DNA the way it is a mans.  And for this reason women aren't generally good at fighting coupled with a low participation rate and you end up with an unequal playing field.  This isn't rocket science.  

The sport of female MMA is more than likely to be an anomaly, a passing fad that is unlikely to last, especially once Rhonda retires and there is no longer anyone to draw in the feminist morons.

And she dominates a WEAK division, that's the whole point, YES she is dominant, but against weak competition, so it's not the accomplishment all the Rhonda nuthuggers want you to believe.

And the evidence is in a basic appraisal of her opponents skillset, from their poor striking skills, their stance, their technique (or lack of it), their poor coordination etc...  If you can't see this with your own eyes than you obviously lack any personal fighting experience, any amateur can recognize the obvious deficiencies is in the womens skill-set, even Rhondas skills (outside of Judo) are pretty obvious and easily criticized.

I know you feminist nutguggers want to believe men and women are equal, but they are not, and female fighting will always be an oddity/freak-show and run second place to real fighters (the men).  Women can never catch-up to men who have been fighting since the beginning of time.  It is absurd to think that women can achieve a strong division in fighting in a few years when it has taken men eons of fighting to develop their equally matched and deep pools of fighting talent.
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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #161 on: August 06, 2015, 06:25:56 AM »
Her division has NEVER been strong, it's a new sport, it might be a hundred years before it becomes comparable to a mens fighting roster.  I have pointed this out before in this thread, female fighting will likely always be weak, as women aren't drawn to fighting sports, it's not in their DNA the way it is a mans.  And for this reason women aren't generally good at fighting coupled with a low participation rate and you end up with an unequal playing field.  This isn't rocket science.  

The sport of female MMA is more than likely to be an anomaly, a passing fad that is unlikely to last, especially once Rhonda retires and there is no longer anyone to draw in the feminist morons.

And she dominates a WEAK division, that's the whole point, YES she is dominant, but against weak competition, so it's not the accomplishment all the Rhonda nuthuggers want you to believe.

And the evidence is in a basic appraisal of her opponents skillset, from their poor striking skills, their stance, their technique (or lack of it), their poor coordination etc...  If you can't see this with your own eyes than you obviously lack any personal fighting experience, any amateur can recognize the obvious deficiencies is in the womens skill-set, even Rhondas skills (outside of Judo) are pretty obvious and easily criticized.

I know you feminist nutguggers want to believe men and women are equal, but they are not, and female fighting will always be an oddity/freak-show and run second place to real fighters (the men).  Women can never catch-up to men who have been fighting since the beginning of time.  It is absurd to think that women can achieve a strong division in fighting in a few years when it has taken men eons of fighting to develop their equally matched and deep pools of fighting talent.

And in that one short phrase your whole argument comes crashing down, if its never been strong then by definition how do you know its weak now?
It is what it is.
Mens boxing divisions have strong and weak eras, as this is a new sport then you cant claim its weak, it might always be like this.

Now, as for the rest of your garbage, I didnt even read it.

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #162 on: August 06, 2015, 07:09:36 AM »
And in that one short phrase your whole argument comes crashing down, if its never been strong then by definition how do you know its weak now?
It is what it is.
Mens boxing divisions have strong and weak eras, as this is a new sport then you cant claim its weak, it might always be like this.

Now, as for the rest of your garbage, I didnt even read it.
Look, you are obviously pretty stupid. To spell out the obvious you define how strong a division is by the skill level of the people within in it, if only one person has a high skill level and the rest an average or below average level of skill, then it is considered a weak division.  if everyone in the division is highly skilled and on any given day either combatant has an equal opportunity of winning, then the division is considered strong.  Like I said, this isn't rocket science, but the blatantly obvious seems to escape your attention quite often it seems.
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« Reply #163 on: August 06, 2015, 07:25:16 AM »
Look, you are obviously pretty stupid. To spell out the obvious you define how strong a division is by the skill level of the people within in it, if only one person has a high skill level and the rest an average or below average level of skill, then it is considered a weak division.  if everyone in the division is highly skilled and on any given day either combatant has an equal opportunity of winning, then the division is considered strong.  Like I said, this isn't rocket science, but the blatantly obvious seems to escape your attention quite often it seems.

How are Ronda's opponents matched against each other, pretty evenly matched?
A lot of 3 round fights on their records.
So if Ronda wasnt there you could say it was a strong division.

As its a new division you simply cannot say its weak, you have nothing to base that on only Rondas excellence.

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #164 on: August 06, 2015, 07:49:19 AM »
She barely touch Correia and Correia when down.  Obvious fixed fight by Dana White to promote his sport since there aren't any male stars right now.

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #165 on: August 06, 2015, 07:54:23 AM »
She barely touch Correia and Correia when down.  Obvious fixed fight by Dana White to promote his sport since there aren't any male stars right now.
So you believe if they had matches that were not fixed then they would be pretty evenly matched fights?

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #166 on: August 06, 2015, 04:09:33 PM »
She barely touch Correia and Correia when down.  Obvious fixed fight by Dana White to promote his sport since there aren't any male stars right now.

Correia is not going to take a dive in front of her people in her home country of Brazil.  No way in hell.

The punch landed.  It looked like if caught her on or behind the ear.  It wasn't particularly devastating but it was enough to do the job.

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #167 on: August 06, 2015, 04:43:01 PM »
How are Ronda's opponents matched against each other, pretty evenly matched?
A lot of 3 round fights on their records.
So if Ronda wasnt there you could say it was a strong division.

As its a new division you simply cannot say its weak, you have nothing to base that on only Rondas excellence.
Can you even read, it is based on skill level.  Just because two low skilled fighters are evenly matched doesn't make it a strong division.  How hard is it for you to comprehend this?  It is obvious you can't differentiate between a highly skilled martial artist opposed to a poorly skilled one.
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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #168 on: August 06, 2015, 04:48:16 PM »
Correia is not going to take a dive in front of her people in her home country of Brazil.  No way in hell.

The punch landed.  It looked like if caught her on or behind the ear.  It wasn't particularly devastating but it was enough to do the job.
I think above and around the ear is quite a vulnerable spot, sometimes even the slightest of punches seems to have a dramatic effect on equilibrium when hit above or behind the ear.

And anybody who is claiming the woman took a dive is moronic in the extreme.  It was obvious it was a flash knockout, since she face planted.  You can't fake a face plant.  Try it it for yourself, attempt a face plant and your natural instincts will be to put your arms out and catch yourself, the only way you can face plant is if you are unconscious.
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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #169 on: August 06, 2015, 05:08:59 PM »
Ronda "Bitch Duck" Rousey


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« Reply #170 on: August 06, 2015, 10:00:07 PM »
Can you even read, it is based on skill level.  Just because two low skilled fighters are evenly matched doesn't make it a strong division.  How hard is it for you to comprehend this?  It is obvious you can't differentiate between a highly skilled martial artist opposed to a poorly skilled one.
Doesn't make it a weak one either, maybe it does when you compare them to men but we aren't doing that.
You cant say the division is weak when everyone is evenly matched, sure you can say they are not as skilled as the men but that doesnt make it weak.
There are no strong (in your opinion) divisions to compare it to.
The division is filled with evenly matched fighters except Ronda.

The division is what it is.

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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #171 on: August 07, 2015, 02:38:35 AM »
Doesn't make it a weak one either
Yes it does 
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You cant say the division is weak when everyone is evenly matched

But they're not evenly matched, one is a good fighter, the rest are average to mediocre.
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There are no strong (in your opinion) divisions to compare it to.

You don't determine the strength of a division by comparing it to others (you seem to struggle with this concept.  The depth of division is determined by the talent within it, little talent equals weak division, lots of talent = strong division (I don't know how much simpler I can make this).  And there are plenty of strong weight classes in the UFC, like the welterweight division, absolute murderers row.  Actually all the mens division from weakest to strongest are far deeper than the womens.  It sounds like you desperately want women's mma to be something it is not so you can bearhug Ronda Rousey's giant nutsack because you actually believe what the media hype her up to be.  Womens MMA is in it's infancy and will be a long time before the women catch up.
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The division is filled with evenly matched fighters except Ronda.

Bingo.  Rhonda is at the appropriate level, everyone else isn't = weak division.

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The division is what it is.

Agreed, The division is  what it is --> WEAK
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Re: UFC 190 - Ronda Rousey vs Bethe Correia - 34 seconds
« Reply #172 on: August 07, 2015, 02:54:57 AM »
id be interested to see ronda against cyborg

I think ronda takes her to the cleaners

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« Reply #173 on: August 07, 2015, 03:03:16 AM »
Bingo.  Rhonda is at the appropriate level, everyone else isn't = weak division.
 
Agreed, The division is  what it is --> WEAK

Alternatively, the division is strong, Ronda is exceptionally strong.

In 30 years time the division may not be any better than it is now, will you still be saying its weak?
It may go worse than it is now, will you still be saying its weak?

For you to say its weak you must have something to compare it to, you havent.

Tysons era was weak compared the the Ali Foreman, Frazier era, now, what is todays era weak compared to?