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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2015, 05:15:26 PM »
Yet he was smart enough to draw his own conclusions and make his own decisions instead of having on the brainwashed teachings of liberal professors. You should change your name to strawman. You're one sided.

HUH ???

He draws his own conclusions?  Then why not have the balls to admit them to people?

So he does one thing, and tells people another?   sorry, can't defend dude for this.   

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2015, 08:12:11 PM »
No, he has not made up his own decision. He still visits Yale to make speeches (in 2012-2013, he visited Yale Medical school and gave a speech. And I bet he still donates to Yale). If he was SO against liberal universities and stem cell research and abortions (Yale is in favor of abortion and stem cell research.), he would not visit there. He would exclusively speak at Christian or affiliated universities.

Plain and simple, he is a hypocrite.

Heck, Yale has The Stem Cell Center

http://stemcell.yale.edu/

ps - youre as one sided as 240 is. You will not bend to anything that is not religion or republican. I have never seen you ONCE here concede to a liberal or atheist viewpoint. NOT ONCE!!! You're just as bad as 240, if not worse. Pot meet kettle.

No, I just think 90% of the political left and those who support them are intellectually and morally dishonest without commonsense.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2015, 08:19:33 PM »
No, I just think 90% of the political left and those who support them are intellectually and morally dishonest without commonsense.

I have two hands face palming my head. This is why its impossible to debate with you. Seriously, not trolling you, but you may have a reading comprehension problem.

Your above statement has absolutely nothing to do with what I said at all.

If Ben Carson truly changed his ways and was a strong advocate against abortion and stem cell research, then he would NOT visit a University that supports both!! It goes to show that he is not a man of true conviction. I would never give a speech at a Catholic University. That would not jive with me.

Yet, Carson, a devout theist, is giving talks at a University that supports gay marriage, abortion and stem cell research. He even gave a talk to Yale medical students. I am sure Yale medical school teaches doctors how to do an abortion.

He has not drawn any conclusions, and if he has, then he is going back on his word by supporting a university in which is so against many of his values.

Clearly, those liberal professors did a great job brainwashing him, considering he was a top pediatric neurosurgeon in a major hospital. I am sure he has many mentors from Yale medical school.

Again, he is a hypocrite. Plain and simple.

ps - youre just as stringent as 240 is in his thinking. Of course you think 90% of the left is dishonest and moraly bankrupt. And the left probably thinks the same about the right. Pot meet kettle on both sides.

And, again, you prove its impossible to debate with you, as your answers are from left field, and had nothing to do with the gist of my statement. I shall go back to ignoring you.  :D :D
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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2015, 08:27:30 PM »
I have two hands face palming my head. This is why its impossible to debate with you. Seriously, not trolling you, but you may have a reading comprehension problem.

Your above statement has absolutely nothing to do with what I said at all.

If Ben Carson truly changed his ways and was a strong advocate against abortion and stem cell research, then he would NOT visit a University that supports both!! It goes to show that he is not a man of true conviction. I would never give a speech at a Catholic University. That would not jive with me.

Yet, Carson, a devout theist, is giving talks at a University that supports gay marriage, abortion and stem cell research. He even gave a talk to Yale medical students. I am sure Yale medical school teaches doctors how to do an abortion.

He has not drawn any ben carson hypocriteonclusions, and if he has, then he is going back on his word by supporting a university in which is so against many of his values.

Clearly, those liberal professors did a great job brainwashing him, considering he was a top pediatric neurosurgeon in a major hospital. I am sure he has many mentors from Yale medical school.

Again, he is a hypocrite. Plain and simple.

ps - youre just as stringent as 240 is in his thinking. Of course you think 90% of the left is dishonest and moraly bankrupt. And the left probably thinks the same about the right. Pot meet kettle on both sides.

As I do a quick search while working. This is what Google came up with and I'm sure this is what yourself And 240 are going by....I'm not going to respond this thread until i hear the otherside of it. Regardless. Anyone but a progressive, left wing socialist.

just google "ben carson hypocrite" and see what pops up. All lib rags.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2015, 08:34:50 PM »
Now that have a about 10min. I've said this a thousand times before. You have everything 240 puts out because of his leftiest dishonesty. He saw this, I know he did. But this didn't fit his little agenda.


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ben-carson-performed-experiments-with-aborted-babies-tissue

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2015, 08:44:37 PM »
Now that have a about 10min. I've said this a thousand times before. You have everything 240 puts out because of his leftiest dishonesty. He saw this, I know he did. But this didn't fit his little agenda.


https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/ben-carson-performed-experiments-with-aborted-babies-tissue

I dont know, dude.

"I am against abortion - but once it's done, we might as well benefit from the remains of the aborted child"?

NO NO NO, I don't like that one bit.  It's like being against killing cows, while eating your cheeseburger.  Or worse, selling cheeseburgers.   

Was Ben Carson given $ to work with this tissue?  Makes me sick to my stomach.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2015, 08:45:22 PM »
Monkey's have been shown to stay away from snakes. They've even let non venomous snakes slither through their pack but a venomous snake will be killed with a rock, tree limb etc if the venomous gets to close...That is total rational thought.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2015, 08:47:23 PM »
Monkey's have been shown to stay away from snakes. They've even let non venomous snakes slither through their pack but a venomous snake will be killed with a rock, tree limb etc if the venomous gets to close...That is total rational thought.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2015, 08:55:28 PM »
As I do a quick search while working. This is what Google came up with and I'm sure this is what yourself And 240 are going by....I'm not going to respond this thread until i hear the otherside of it. Regardless. Anyone but a progressive, left wing socialist.

just google "ben carson hypocrite" and see what pops up. All lib rags.

Holy shit, you are fucking dumb. I am not arguing about whether or not he experimented on aborted babies. THAT IS 240s argument, not mine. My argument was that he is giving lectures at liberal universities, which he so vehemently despises. These liberal universities who support gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research, and teach their students how do do an abortion.

HELLO, DINGBAT, here is the article. The article was posted by YALE UNIVERSITY!! THIS WAS JUST IN 2012!!

http://news.yale.edu/2012/06/07/alumnus-ben-carson-honors-young-scholars-shares-wisdom-graduating-doctors

HERE IS A PICTURE OF DR. CARSON AT YALE UNIVERSITY GIVING A TALK TO MEDICAL STUDENTS. THOSE SAME MEDICAL STUDENTS WHO PROBABLY LEARNED HOW TO DO ABORTIONS FROM THEIR YALE UNIVERSITY LIBERAL PROFESSORS AND WHO PROBABLY ALSO USE STEM CELLS!!



When world-renowned pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin S. Carson came to the Yale campus on May 21 to deliver the Yale School of Medicine commencement address.

God damn, there is something wrong with you!!  :-\ :-\

If Dr. Carson is so against liberalism, abortion, gay marriage, stem cell research, why give a lecture at a university that is VERY liberal? Because he is not a man of his conviction. A hypocrite. ID never give a lecture at a university if my values greatly conflicted with theirs. Plain and simple, he is a hypocrite.

Good luck, 240. You will probably have better luck smashing your head against a wall than arguing with certain people in this thread.
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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2015, 09:11:01 PM »
remember that thread about the pilot ordering obama around? hahaha

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #60 on: August 13, 2015, 09:35:33 PM »
HERE IS A PICTURE OF DR. CARSON AT YALE UNIVERSITY GIVING A TALK TO MEDICAL STUDENTS. THOSE SAME MEDICAL STUDENTS WHO PROBABLY LEARNED HOW TO DO ABORTIONS FROM THEIR YALE UNIVERSITY LIBERAL PROFESSORS AND WHO PROBABLY ALSO USE STEM CELLS!!

If Dr. Carson is so against liberalism, abortion, gay marriage, stem cell research, why give a lecture at a university that is VERY liberal? Because he is not a man of his conviction. A hypocrite. ID never give a lecture at a university if my values greatly conflicted with theirs. Plain and simple, he is a hypocrite.

ben carson is a politician.   he knows when to smile and show up and work for the libs when that is convenient.  He knows how to show up and make nazi quotes to get coverage in 2014.  And he knows how to jump on hotbutton issues in 2015.

he's a politician.  Once we admit that, then things like this become no big deal.  But as long as we have carson on this "finally, a man with integrity, he's no politician, he's a stalwart conservative"...

he comes from a liberal world - two liberal schools, then he goes back to speak there.  Also, he doesn't think every american needs access to guns - he thinks some areas shouldn't be allowed to own handguns...

IMO, being partially anti-gun is a bigger story than this one, but when I posted him being anti-gun, nobody wanted to talk about it either...

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #61 on: August 13, 2015, 09:57:04 PM »
Holy shit, you are fucking dumb. I am not arguing about whether or not he experimented on aborted babies. THAT IS 240s argument, not mine. My argument was that he is giving lectures at liberal universities, which he so vehemently despises. These liberal universities who support gay marriage, abortion, stem cell research, and teach their students how do do an abortion.

HELLO, DINGBAT, here is the article. The article was posted by YALE UNIVERSITY!! THIS WAS JUST IN 2012!!

http://news.yale.edu/2012/06/07/alumnus-ben-carson-honors-young-scholars-shares-wisdom-graduating-doctors

HERE IS A PICTURE OF DR. CARSON AT YALE UNIVERSITY GIVING A TALK TO MEDICAL STUDENTS. THOSE SAME MEDICAL STUDENTS WHO PROBABLY LEARNED HOW TO DO ABORTIONS FROM THEIR YALE UNIVERSITY LIBERAL PROFESSORS AND WHO PROBABLY ALSO USE STEM CELLS!!



When world-renowned pediatric neurosurgeon Dr. Benjamin S. Carson came to the Yale campus on May 21 to deliver the Yale School of Medicine commencement address.

God damn, there is something wrong with you!!  :-\ :-\

If Dr. Carson is so against liberalism, abortion, gay marriage, stem cell research, why give a lecture at a university that is VERY liberal? Because he is not a man of his conviction. A hypocrite. ID never give a lecture at a university if my values greatly conflicted with theirs. Plain and simple, he is a hypocrite.

Good luck, 240. You will probably have better luck smashing your head against a wall than arguing with certain people in this thread.

Jesus Christ where to start. So let me get this straight. A dr. Who went to Yale. Goes back and gives a lecture (eventually teaching) to other aspiring Dr's despite being a liberal university is being a hypocrite? Should he just avoid the university all together when he has the opportunity to educate? Im curious SF1900. How many lectures have you been to where you disagree with the professor? Remember, he's a doctor, a neurosurgeon to be exact and the best in his field. Other than the political opinion of abortion which I'm sure isn't brought up during a lecture, where does him being a hypocrite come in when he's more than likely lecturing on neuroscience?????

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #62 on: August 13, 2015, 10:15:48 PM »
Dr. Ben Carson Response To Accusation Of Research On Fetal Tissue
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I wanted to use our time tonight to directly deal with an attack launched on me today by the left and the media. A couple questions came in on this subject, so I want to address it head on.

Today I was accused by the press as having done research on fetal tissue. It simply is not true. The study they distributed by an anonymous source was done in 1992. The study was about tumors. I won’t bore you with the science. There were four doctors' names on the study. One was mine. I spent my life studying brain tumors and removing them. My only involvement in this study was supplying tumors that I had removed from my patients. Those tissue samples were compared to other tissue samples under a microscope. Pathologists do this work to gain clues about tumors.

I, nor any of the doctors involved with this study, had anything to do with abortion or what Planned Parenthood has been doing. Research hospitals across the country have microscope slides of all kinds of tissue to compare and contrast. The fetal tissue that was viewed in this study by others was not collected for this study.

I am sickened by the attack that I, after having spent my entire life caring for children, had something to do with aborting a child and harvesting organs. My medical specialty is the human brain and even I am amazed at what it is capable of doing. Please know these attacks are pathetic attempts to blunt our progress.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #63 on: August 14, 2015, 12:13:29 AM »
Young earth FTW bitches.  Evolution is as bunk as Kigs!
Superior Hebrew Genetics.  Solomon like intellect and wisdom. 


Neanderthal talking shit out of his ass..in less than 100 years science brought religion on its knees.few more centuries and these kind of clowns will only be found in Museums just to show future generations how delusional we were once.Evolution is future religion.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #64 on: August 14, 2015, 01:55:21 AM »
facepalm on this whole thread... hebrews speculate..

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #65 on: August 14, 2015, 04:11:13 AM »
I was tempted to answer, however I see from previous replies I won't need to.

Wiggs I advice you to rethink your religious views, especially the Abrahemic(Christianity/Islam/Judaism) Religions. It has brought genocide, wars, enslavement, pollution.

I don't say you should leave your spirituality but leave a doctrine that has mostly served those that created abrahemic religions.


This documentary is always great to watch, because it can give you hints/clues on possible origins.




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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #66 on: August 14, 2015, 06:05:52 AM »
As I do a quick search while working. This is what Google came up with and I'm sure this is what yourself And 240 are going by....I'm not going to respond this thread until i hear the otherside of it. Regardless. Anyone but a progressive, left wing socialist.

just google "ben carson hypocrite" and see what pops up. All lib rags.

Go back and read my first post in this thread.  I consider myself a right wing conservative.  I can't stand liberals.  I have a degree, background, and worked in the Biotech industry for years.  It is my firm belief that Carson is a complete fraud.  Having the science and medical background that he does, there is no way he believes in the shit that he is spouting.  240 said it best.  Carson is a politician, and that is the only reason he is spewing this nonsense.  He is trying to connect with the people who are the most gullible, and most easily persuaded.

If you believe for a second that he truly believes in the shit he's been saying during his lectures, then you're dumber than I thought.   :-\

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #67 on: August 14, 2015, 07:58:16 AM »
Jesus Christ where to start. So let me get this straight. A dr. Who went to Yale. Goes back and gives a lecture (eventually teaching) to other aspiring Dr's despite being a liberal university is being a hypocrite? Should he just avoid the university all together when he has the opportunity to educate? Im curious SF1900. How many lectures have you been to where you disagree with the professor? Remember, he's a doctor, a neurosurgeon to be exact and the best in his field. Other than the political opinion of abortion which I'm sure isn't brought up during a lecture, where does him being a hypocrite come in when he's more than likely lecturing on neuroscience?????

I wrote out a whole response (2-3 paragraphs), but deleted it, because you are absolutely clueless and hopeless in every way imaginable. I will let you go back to owning yourself in every thread  :D :D

This is the only response I will have to you from now on.




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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #68 on: August 14, 2015, 08:23:49 AM »
They did an analysis on the speaking of each of the GOP candidates. 

Trump speaks at the lowest level - his public speaking is a 3rd or 4th grade level.  "China is killing us.  I'm gonna make america great again".  Short sentences using simple words.  ANd it's a brilliant strategy - trump is leading with the lowest income and lowest education level voters, they're called "down scale" by researchers.

Trump is probably the least religious candidate in the race, right?  He's leading with evangelicals.  he's leading with the bible voters, despite being up against huckabee and others who cater/pander specifically to them.

Carson is just catering to them too - there's no way a brain surgeon doesn't have a HUGE understanding of brain evolution, carbon dating, etc. 

Carson is an actor, which is totally cool, as long as voters are smart enough to know it, and not choose him because he matches their views on this issue where he's obviously acting.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #69 on: August 14, 2015, 08:26:34 AM »
Carson is just catering to them too - there's no way a brain surgeon doesn't have a HUGE understanding of brain evolution, carbon dating, etc. 

Carson is an actor, which is totally cool, as long as voters are smart enough to know it, and not choose him because he matches their views on this issue where he's obviously acting.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #70 on: August 14, 2015, 09:00:15 AM »
They did an analysis on the speaking of each of the GOP candidates. 

Trump speaks at the lowest level - his public speaking is a 3rd or 4th grade level.  "China is killing us.  I'm gonna make america great again".  Short sentences using simple words.  ANd it's a brilliant strategy - trump is leading with the lowest income and lowest education level voters, they're called "down scale" by researchers.

Trump is probably the least religious candidate in the race, right?  He's leading with evangelicals.  he's leading with the bible voters, despite being up against huckabee and others who cater/pander specifically to them.

Carson is just catering to them too - there's no way a brain surgeon doesn't have a HUGE understanding of brain evolution, carbon dating, etc. 

Carson is an actor, which is totally cool, as long as voters are smart enough to know it, and not choose him because he matches their views on this issue where he's obviously acting.
He actually doesn't.

Most doctors don't even know what that stuff really is.  Do this, get to know a doctor, then ask him some basic question.  You may be amazed that they don't know a lot of shit, children should know, science wise.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #71 on: August 14, 2015, 01:37:39 PM »
Have you considered it's you?  And I mean that in the least disrespectful way possible. Think about it. For all of known history people have worshiped Gods now all of a sudden people like you come along make a decision to not believe in God based on nothing.  The West has went from believers, to non believers and if you ask the non believers for proof, they'll give you the Big Bang THEORY or the THEORY of evolution.  There is not been 1 single shred of evidence ever proving this and there never will be. You've been brain washed and fight to continue to stay brainwashed to satisfy your worldly lusts. It's easier and more fun to not believe in God.  It's also very lazy.  Because I bet there are very, very few of you if any that have legitimately researched yours and other religions.  Why?  Well if you're an American you're fucked from birth with vaccines, GMO baby food, fluoridated water, television, consumerism, violence, sex, drugs, racism, greed, lust, alternative life styles, alternative genders, multiculturalism, political correctness, obesity, paganism, occultism, indoctrination, via trends, fashion, television, media, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, greed, greed, greed, slothfulness, mental laziness, and much more.  You don't even know it's happening because it is this western reality. And were so overworked and have a mentality of chasing the dollar, unless it is a pastime, most won't put any effort into their faith. You just repeat what is popular.  the religion of athiesm is constantly moving.  It's like an amorphous blob of ideas that's constantly shifting and changing to as new evidence comes out.  


Yes, thousands of them, with civilizations inevitably rejecting the last for the next. This should really tell you more about human nature (man's need for purpose and/or supernatural protection/assistance/guidance, inability to rationalize mortality, etc.) than it does anything divine or spiritual.

Also, you've addressed believer stats before, in a sort of 'How can SO MANY people possibly be wrong?'-type defense. A little inconsistent considering where you often invest your specific beliefs: wacky conspiracies, marginalized historical revisionism, cultish religious movements et al. If numbers are your concern, you must understand the vast majority finds these fringe allegiances pretty f'n ridiculous, too.

When it comes to religion, we are ALL condemned to another faith's hell, no escaping it. And I've never read anywhere that an atheist's eternity is any more or less tortuous than that of the believer who chose poorly. Odd that theists never lose sleep over that, though.

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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #72 on: August 14, 2015, 05:46:25 PM »
He actually doesn't.

Most doctors don't even know what that stuff really is.  Do this, get to know a doctor, then ask him some basic question.  You may be amazed that they don't know a lot of shit, children should know, science wise.

You don't have to be intelligent to be a doctor. You do need to be adept at memorization though.
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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #73 on: August 14, 2015, 07:24:21 PM »
Came into this thread expecting to read the usual absolute bullshit from people whos parents brainwashed them early on..."how do you explain that there still be monkeys, if evolution waz true?!", and i definitely was not let down.

However, i learned something new. I always thought coach was a pretty legit conservative, but this thread proves hes a social neo-con, and in which case, is not to be taken seriously on virtually anything he posts. He always shyed away from religious shit, so I had this feeling he was different. But, no...he is actually Incapable of seeing (or admitting), that the religious poison is preventing his "party" of winning elections now because he is what we call a "blind loyalist".

People my age laugh at these old loons like carson and these other old fogies like huckabee talking about hot button topics like abortion and gays to drum up support from their loudest base of uneducated bile belt voters because its easy votes. The left does the same with inner city votes as they market tp their base on issues like min. Wage and other hot buttons they care about. Its issues that any christian from the sticks can rally behind and understand easily, "carson is against them big city libs who kill babies and dont pray to jeebus, they also makin pastors marry faggz!" and the left voters can understand the "we need more moniez, they gonna give me more welfare for ma 9 kidz".

and honestly, anyone who seriously says "liberal universities" , is someone i probably would distance myself from in real life. Coach, not gonna send your kid to one of those colleges full of libs where they learn basic science from experts in the field because of your own insecurities and lack of understanding?
Sf1900 , 240, and others are pretty open minded anc concede on lots of things. For example, im pro gun, fiscally conservative, and want to legalize drugs...all true conservative stances. However, your "party" wont ever get my vote until they drop the religious noise. Until that date, ill cast my vote for intelligence..every time. Science is how we Have progressed. Religion, is how you digress. You can look to the middle east for those examples.

Whatever, you will always be one sided and view the world from your sheltered island. This whole presidential voting and side picking is just adult fandom anyway. Just a distraction. Nothing more or less than Caitlyn Jenners struggles or redskins vs the cowboys drama. Once one of these goons gets put into the white house, its business as usual, so stop acting like it fucking matters or your life is some how going to be changed neg or positive because it WONT. The hyper political bullshit is just a way of feeling like you have something important to worry about, but all its doing is making your blood pressure bad and alienating friends, clients, and family. Its just so retarded on so many levels. Adults with too much free time is basically whats going with the politics shit lol

Edit: i also find it sooo odd that no outspoken republican/conservative on this forum or others I read EVER criticizes the religious bullshit that republican politics is so heavily on these days. I never see anyone mention it. Ill pick apart liberal agenda all day long like PC bullshit, and feminist crap. Never once do I see a republican call out this christian witch craft. I know you true conservatives are out there somewhere



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Re: Dr. Ben Carson, vs. Evolution
« Reply #74 on: August 14, 2015, 07:30:11 PM »
^ what he said

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