Author Topic: Phil Heath: 5 weeks out from the Mr Olympia (Read 10072 times)

The Ugly · « **Reply #25 on:** August 21, 2015, 03:39:51 PM »

Can't imagine training that way and wanting people to see it. It's embarrassing. Better to let them at least think you built yourself with hardcore, old-fashioned grit, not this quarter-rep, pansy nonsense.

Worse still is that this is what works for him. Dude's the epitome of 'all genetics/drugs.'

Waller · « **Reply #26 on:** August 21, 2015, 03:47:19 PM »

Quote from: The Ugly on August 21, 2015, 03:39:51 PM

Can't imagine training that way and wanting people to see it. It's embarrassing. Better to let them at least think you built yourself with hardcore, old-fashioned grit, not this quarter-rep, pansy nonsense.

Worse still is that this is what works for him. Dude's the epitome of 'all genetics/drugs.'

Training is just the finishing touch.

The Ugly · « **Reply #27 on:** August 21, 2015, 03:55:23 PM »

Quote from: Waller on August 21, 2015, 03:47:19 PM

Training is just the finishing touch.

Indeed, an afterthought almost.

Azure · « **Reply #28 on:** August 21, 2015, 03:56:44 PM »

Quote from: Bevo on August 21, 2015, 03:30:06 PM

Haha people blast Phil but Shawn was the same if not worse, I remember all those leased Mercedes, lambos all while blasting tupac to look tough yet no one is saying anything about that

I was just talking about the training techniques I've seen pre contest And how this is really different. Hey I'm rooting for Phil. I just want him to rise above this junior high garbage.

People talked about Shawn too but as I said I couldn't see him engaging the trolls. Even when onlyme and others would go in on him on the boards, it was funny and he didn't appear to get all butthurt and take it seriously. Side note: I miss those days with onlyme when he would get going on Sean. LOL! Those were some funny times on this board

che · « **Reply #29 on:** August 21, 2015, 04:01:06 PM »

Quote from: Azure on August 21, 2015, 09:22:56 AM

slowing down and going through the whole range of lotion to really bring out the cuts and detail in the muscle.

This guy knows his shit . haha oh brother .

Azure · « **Reply #30 on:** August 21, 2015, 04:06:33 PM »

Quote from: che on August 21, 2015, 04:01:06 PM

This guy knows his shit . haha oh brother .

Uh yeah I got that from Charles glass...thanks. He would teach that people could continue to lift heavy even in prep so that more detail would come out. I've just never seen that kind of quick tempo super short ROM before

che · « **Reply #31 on:** August 21, 2015, 04:15:47 PM »

Quote from: Azure on August 21, 2015, 04:06:33 PM

Uh yeah I got that from Charles glass...thanks. He would teach that people could continue to lift heavy even in prep so that more detail would come out. I've just never seen that kind of quick tempo super short ROM before

What kind of lotion did Charles use to bring out the cuts and detail ?

Azure · « **Reply #32 on:** August 21, 2015, 04:17:32 PM »

Quote from: che on August 21, 2015, 04:15:47 PM

What kind of lotion did Charles use to bring out the cuts and detail ?

All right smart guy...what's your philosophy and what have you heard? I'm always willing to learn something new

che · « **Reply #33 on:** August 21, 2015, 04:22:03 PM »

Quote from: Azure on August 21, 2015, 04:17:32 PM

All right smart guy...what's your philosophy and what have you heard? I'm always willing to learn something new

Low reps are for size and high reps are for cutting , I hope this helps .

Azure · « **Reply #34 on:** August 21, 2015, 04:30:45 PM »

Quote from: che on August 21, 2015, 04:22:03 PM

Low reps are for size and high reps are for cutting , I hope this helps .

Ummm not necessarily. I'll just leave it at that.

che · « **Reply #35 on:** August 21, 2015, 04:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Azure on August 21, 2015, 04:30:45 PM

Ummm not necessarily. I'll just leave it at that.

The Scott · « **Reply #36 on:** August 21, 2015, 08:11:59 PM »

Little Big Man. What a manlet.

Hulkotron · « **Reply #37 on:** August 21, 2015, 08:19:15 PM »

Quote from: che on August 21, 2015, 04:01:06 PM

This guy knows his shit . haha oh brother .

Slik · « **Reply #38 on:** August 21, 2015, 08:33:20 PM »

Impressive when he throws the massive 60lb barbell off of his back. That was so fn awesome!

anvil · « **Reply #39 on:** August 21, 2015, 08:40:00 PM »

Nice beard, he looks like Grady from Sanford and Son

rocket · « **Reply #40 on:** August 21, 2015, 08:49:20 PM »

Quote from: che on August 21, 2015, 04:22:03 PM

Low reps are for size and high reps are for cutting , I hope this helps .

It doesn't.

For one thing, low reps are for strength.

Secondly, it's the heart rate and caloric deficit that you're targeting, not a rep scheme - you could use either. High reps just easier to get heart rate going. It really depends on what you're eating and what you want to be capable of after the cutting. Isn't there research saying that going hell for leather, high heart rate isn't as efficient for fat burning?

Another consideration is that your body will obviously adapt to the rep scheme you use during the cutting which means if you want to keep your strength as much as possible, you might be better off keeping the reps low.

As for Phil - I think bodybuilding is a pretty boring way to train (but each to their own) but I don't really see the point of him going all out on heavy weight when he is cutting. Phil is in it for the money and status. Nobody does quarter reps on leg press for "fun", that's for sure.

che · « **Reply #41 on:** August 21, 2015, 08:51:21 PM »

Quote from: rocket on August 21, 2015, 08:49:20 PM

It doesn't.

For one thing, low reps are for strength.

Secondly, it's the heart rate and caloric deficit that you're targeting, not a rep scheme - you could use either. High reps just easier to get heart rate going. It really depends on what you're eating and what you want to be capable of after the cutting. Isn't there research saying that going hell for leather, high heart rate isn't as efficient for fat burning?

Another consideration is that your body will obviously adapt to the rep scheme you use during the cutting which means if you want to keep your strength as much as possible, you might be better off keeping the reps low.

As for Phil - I think bodybuilding is a pretty boring way to train (but each to their own) but I don't really see the point of him going all out on heavy weight when he is cutting. Phil is in it for the money and status. Nobody does quarter reps on leg press for "fun", that's for sure.

Oh brother

Azure · « **Reply #42 on:** August 21, 2015, 08:57:11 PM »

Quote from: rocket on August 21, 2015, 08:49:20 PM

It doesn't.

For one thing, low reps are for strength.

Secondly, it's the heart rate and caloric deficit that you're targeting, not a rep scheme - you could use either. High reps just easier to get heart rate going. It really depends on what you're eating and what you want to be capable of after the cutting. Isn't there research saying that going hell for leather, high heart rate isn't as efficient for fat burning?

Another consideration is that your body will obviously adapt to the rep scheme you use during the cutting which means if you want to keep your strength as much as possible, you might be better off keeping the reps low.

As for Phil - I think bodybuilding is a pretty boring way to train (but each to their own) but I don't really see the point of him going all out on heavy weight when he is cutting. Phil is in it for the money and status. Nobody does quarter reps on leg press for "fun", that's for sure.

Parker · « **Reply #43 on:** August 22, 2015, 05:53:29 AM »

Quote from: che on August 21, 2015, 04:01:06 PM

This guy knows his shit . haha oh brother .

That's a woman.

affeman · « **Reply #44 on:** August 22, 2015, 05:56:55 AM »

A bunch of internet geeks giving a multiple Mr. Olympia training advice never gets old

Azure · « **Reply #45 on:** August 22, 2015, 07:19:26 AM »

Quote from: affeman on August 22, 2015, 05:56:55 AM

A bunch of internet geeks giving a multiple Mr. Olympia training advice never gets old

I wasn't giving him advice. I was just saying I Hadn't seen someone train like that before pre contest. Phil is an anomaly and as someone who is interested in training methodology I would love to hear their rationale. Most people couldn't train like that and See Phil's response. Training is a highly individualized practice and if it works for him keep doing it

Yamcha · « **Reply #46 on:** August 22, 2015, 07:25:04 AM »

Quote from: affeman on August 22, 2015, 05:56:55 AM

A bunch of internet geeks giving a multiple Mr. Olympia training advice never gets old

I have some training advice for Phil... go train with Greg Plitt.

Ronnie Rep · « **Reply #47 on:** August 22, 2015, 08:36:28 AM »

Quote from: Yamcha on August 21, 2015, 09:14:11 AM

Range of Motion of a hamster.

Muscle Hamster.

The Scott · « **Reply #48 on:** August 22, 2015, 09:43:15 AM »

Quote from: Slik on August 21, 2015, 08:33:20 PM

Impressive when he throws the massive 60lb barbell off of his back. That was so fn awesome!

Yup. I immediately wanted to be more like Phil. The man's not just a legend, not just a myth but a god. Not THE God, mind you. Just one in charge of stuff like PEDs. But still, a god.