Author Topic: What happened to the illusion in bodybuilding? (Read 3489 times)

Wiggs · « **on:** August 21, 2015, 10:23:22 AM »

I'm sure there are tons of jokes in there but I'm referring to the illusion of looking 250 when you're really 230 or looking 230 when you're 210? Now people are 250 and look 250 and look like shit. The physiques haven't gotten any better.

That illusion that's now lost played a bigger role than most thought.

Uncle Joon · « **Reply #1 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:29:55 AM »

it became dellusional

SF1900 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:31:35 AM »

The fans are partially responsible for wanting bigger and bigger bodybuilders. They want it, that is what the IFBB gives them.

This is what an ideal Mr. O should look like

Simple Simon · « **Reply #3 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:32:21 AM »

Most bodybuilders these days dont look as heavy as they are, in the past you couldn't believe they weighed so little.

Donny · « **Reply #4 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:32:26 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on August 21, 2015, 10:23:22 AM

I'm sure there are tons of jokes in there but I'm referring to the illusion of looking 250 when you're really 230 or looking 230 when you're 210? Now people are 250 and look 250 and look like shit. The physiques haven't gotten any better.

That illusion that's now lost played a bigger role than most thought.

Vince Gironda was the master of creating an illusion. Frank Zane too(ref your last post)

Eulogy · « **Reply #5 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:32:32 AM »

Same with most of today's generation... looking for instant gratification over hard work and dedication. Too many people refusing to put their nose to the grindstone when push comes to shove. It is more akin to a freak show than a proper stage performance.

Uncle Joon · « **Reply #6 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:32:50 AM »

Quote from: SF1900 on August 21, 2015, 10:31:35 AM

The fans are partially responsible for wanting bigger and bigger bodybuilders. They want it, that is what the IFBB gives them.

This is what an ideal Mr. shmOe should look like

Fixed

SF1900 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:34:37 AM »

Quote from: Uncle Joon on August 21, 2015, 10:32:50 AM

Fixed

cool

crownshep · « **Reply #8 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:49:38 AM »

The illusion was always created by having a small waist,now you have guys with 30lbs extra weight on the waist so they don`t look as wide.

ritch · « **Reply #9 on:** August 21, 2015, 10:59:03 AM »

Then in 10 years we will see posts from people saying "remember in 2015, when guys were steamlined, man they had good shapes"...

Even the bodies you speak of were not appreciated in their times, they were critisized for being "too much"

But funny how 10 years later, people seem to find them good.

wes · « **Reply #10 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:10:03 AM »

Quote from: crownshep on August 21, 2015, 10:49:38 AM

The illusion was always created by having a small waist,now you have guys with 30lbs extra weight on the waist so they don`t look as wide.

^^^^^THIS

Donny · « **Reply #11 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:10:11 AM »

nothing will surpass this.... Steve Davies really sculpted his physique...

wes · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:11:17 AM »

I could give 2 fucks about pro-bodybuilding these days..............none of them inspire me.

Deadlifted · « **Reply #13 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:12:06 AM »

A lot of bodybuilders are manlets, kinda hard to look big even if you are jacked if someone just towers over you.

Wiggs · « **Reply #14 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:19:30 AM »

Quote from: Deadlifted on August 21, 2015, 11:12:06 AM

A lot of bodybuilders are manlets, kinda hard to look big even if you are jacked if someone just towers over you.

The best NPC and Pro bodybuilders have always been around average height. Between the 5'8-5'11 range. bodybuilding has never been a "sport" for a tall person. Have there been successes? Yes, Arnold, Lou and a handful of others. So this notion of having a tall Mr. O is a pipe dream.

Wiggs · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:21:13 AM »

Quote from: Deadlifted on August 21, 2015, 11:12:06 AM

A lot of bodybuilders are manlets, kinda hard to look big even if you are jacked if someone just towers over you.

it's always funny to see tall guys and their long limbs absent of mass look not so alpha as some of them believe they are on a bodybuilding stage.

El Diablo Blanco · « **Reply #16 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:22:30 AM »

It's called Insulision

Deadlifted · « **Reply #17 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:32:26 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on August 21, 2015, 11:21:13 AM

it's always funny to see tall guys and their long limbs absent of mass look not so alpha as some of them believe they are on a bodybuilding stage.

You aren't wrong, it seems like a lot of tall guys just dont have good insertions either which compounds the issues of long limbs. Still though, if you are legitemately tall and have even just enough muscle to fill out your frame you'll look a lot bigger than someone whos short and jacked outside of competitions. Irrelevant when it comes to bodybuilding but just saying in day to day life.

spiro · « **Reply #18 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:32:39 AM »

It's mind blowing how much it's regressed. Seriously I sometimes think it's from all the shitty Chinese gear everyone uses.

Waller · « **Reply #19 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:38:26 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on August 21, 2015, 11:21:13 AM

it's always funny to see tall guys and their long limbs absent of mass look not so alpha as some of them believe they are on a bodybuilding stage.

Quite the chip on your shoulder over tall people.

ritch · « **Reply #20 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:39:53 AM »

Quote from: Waller on August 21, 2015, 11:38:26 AM

Quite the chip on your shoulder over tall people.

Typical behavior of "non tall" people...
but 5'8-5'11 really is ideal for bb'ing.

Wiggs · « **Reply #21 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:41:35 AM »

Quote from: Waller on August 21, 2015, 11:38:26 AM

Quite the chip on your shoulder over tall people.

LOL. I'm pretty sure it would be under tall people.

Waller · « **Reply #22 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:43:33 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on August 21, 2015, 11:41:35 AM

LOL. I'm pretty sure it would be under tall people.

I dunno, it looks like quite a big chip

Wiggs · « **Reply #23 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:47:55 AM »

Quote from: Waller on August 21, 2015, 11:43:33 AM

I dunno, it looks like quite a big chip

I don't think you got the joke. Anyway, no I have no issues with tall people. But when it comes to bodybuilding, tall guys fans are always tall guys this and that and we haven't seen anything from tall guys. Cedric McMillan is good and has a chance and he's 6'1 outside of that, it's never been something that's been true. Big Shawn Allen tried to talk that tall guy shit at the Olympia expo back in 99 or 00 and look how long it took him to become a pro and look what he's done since then. Tall guys would have a better chance if there were less reliance on drugs because they'll never be able to fill out their physiques the way an average height bodybuilder can.

Waller · « **Reply #24 on:** August 21, 2015, 11:53:17 AM »

Quote from: Wiggs on August 21, 2015, 11:47:55 AM

I don't think you got the joke. Anyway, no I have no issues with tall people. But when it comes to bodybuilding, tall guys fans are always tall guys this and that and we haven't seen anything from tall guys. Cedric McMillan is good and has a chance and he's 6'1 outside of that, it's never been something that's been true. Big Shawn Allen tried to talk that tall guy shit at the Olympia expo back in 99 or 00 and look how long it took him to become a pro and look what he's done since then. Tall guys would have a better chance if there were less reliance on drugs because they'll never be able to fill out their physiques they way an average height bodybuilder can.

Yeah I got it I just made a crap joke in a rush that doesn't actually make any sense.

The part that indicates the issue is your assumption that they believe they look 1. Alpha and 2. More so than they actually are.

But I'm in total agreement about the arms. I'm well aware of the fact that mine are totally underwhelming due to their length. It's crap.

Author Topic: What happened to the illusion in bodybuilding? (Read 3489 times)

Simple Simon