Morgan Aste - 350 lbs shredded

[Hulkotron]

Yeah, but contest dieting doesn't chop half a foot off your height.

Maybe he diets very hard.

[Hulkotron]

Greg, by all accounts, was a pretty nice guy.

Seems to be one of the few guys from that era that you rarely ever hear a bad story about (in terms of being an asshole to people).

[hench]

i think he looks impressive, he's got tall structure, not squatty just doesn't look such a monster next to others, especially dieted down

Yeah, not impressive at all 
Everyday gym shape right there...

[adamhatfield99]

i think he looks impressive, he's got tall structure, not squatty just doesn't look such a monster next to others, especially dieted down

I fear for his health though.  To be that tired and sweaty after one set of 15-16 reps on the bench press can't be a good thing.  It seems like he has the potential to hit 370-lb like he wants, but is that a worthwhile goal? 

[hench]

if he wants to move like a baby hippo its probably very worth it

I fear for his health though.  To be that tired and sweaty after one set of 15-16 reps on the bench press can't be a good thing.  It seems like he has the potential to hit 370-lb like he wants, but is that a worthwhile goal? 

[adamhatfield99]

if he wants to move like a baby hippo its probably very worth it

 

On a serious note, I don't want him to die before age 45, like Greg Kovacs did.

Does anyone know how old Morgan is?

[Mitch]

Yeah, not impressive at all 
Everyday gym shape right there...

are you implying that he has a...











good everyday physique, easy to maintain without a ton of gear   

[adamhatfield99]

good everyday physique, easy to maintain without a ton of gear   

Maybe Morgan is going for the health look?

[Taffin]

Seems to be one of the few guys from that era that you rarely ever hear a bad story about (in terms of being an asshole to people).

So I wonder why Nasser was so cruel about him..?  Am I missing something? (yes of course, but what!?)

[Royalty]

So I wonder why Nasser was so cruel about him..?  Am I missing something? (yes of course, but what!?)

I think that after 2000 or so, when Nasser stopped placing well in contests, he turned into a jaded & frustrated person.

[adamhatfield99]

So I wonder why Nasser was so cruel about him..?  Am I missing something? (yes of course, but what!?)

I think that after 2000 or so, when Nasser stopped placing well in contests, he turned into a jaded & frustrated person.

What Royalty said.  Nasser wrote his cruel words about Greg in 2008, as a bitter ex-competitor (as Kovacs himself later put it on his RXMuscle reply in 2011).  Greg and his family was nothing but cordial to Nasser when he spent the month at Greg's family's house in Toronto, Canada.  Nasser was simply trying to get back into the limelight and did so by bashing Greg about being unable to wipe his own rear end when Greg weighed over 400-lb.  Since Greg did not deny that in the 2011 reply on RXMuscle, I assumed the story was true.  But that's not a big surprise - Greg was genuinely over 400-lb.  It would make sense that it would be difficult to function at that size.

[doriancutlerman]

Meltdown

LOL, naw, not really.  It was a long post 'tis all

[doriancutlerman]

Sorry, there's no reversing your math comment.  As Fortress stated, it stunk.  

Yeah, yeah

In reality, I was thinking of 220 kg for some reason, but yeah -- I screwed up :| 

[doriancutlerman]

Uh, okay. Thanks for chiming in. 

My apologies, Rob.  You're one of the good guys around here and Getbig is better for your input.  No homo, my tongue up your wazoo, etc., etc.

No, really.  I was being a bit of a jerk, but there is truth to what I said; i.e., you're pretty hard on these juicemonkeys, especially when it comes to the kind of weight some of the strong ones move.

I can't say I'm some undying Morgan Aste fan, but he did bench over 600 raw ... you've a lot more experience in this than I, but all I can say's that I've yet to meet a naturally big, strong SOB who "dosed" his way up to that kind of strength.

Generally speaking, the most gifted guys in my neck of the woods are lucky to abuse enough shit to bench 405 maybe once or twice.  Granted, it's typically UG gear they get from some asshole who makes the stuff in his bathtub, but whatever

Anyhow, again, my apologies.  You're a good dude.

[adamhatfield99]

LOL ... and, *cringe* ... shit! 

Rob, you are of course correct.  I was thinking two-hundred TWENTY kilos for some reason.  Believe it or not, I'm perfectly cognizant of the fact that a kilogram is 2.2 lbs. and, yes, per simple math, 200*2.2 = 440.

As others have said, however, even 440x15 -- or 16, if you're willing to count the last rep -- in good form, no less, is pretty damned impressive.  It really doesn't matter if the lifter is 161.5 kg and juiced to the gills; plenty of super-strong, gassed-up guys (e.g., George whats'-his-name, the 300ish pounder who can close-grip 330 for 30, deadlift over 800 for 8, etc.) probably can't duplicate the Big Frog's lifts, so those lifts remain pretty mind-boggling to me.

In any case, I notice you tend to denigrate really huge bodybuilder's training poundages.  You once told me how you "marveled" at how Nasser El Sonbaty struggled to incline 315 for a few reps.  (Aside:  yes, I have used before, albeit somewhat conservatively opposite Nasser's doses, and within a few months, I had no trouble equaling or eclipsing his incline pressing strength based on what you noted.  Of course, at the same time, he would've made he look like a complete jerk-off onstage.)  On the other hand, when a big bodybuilder moves decent weights, like "Big Ramy" doing an easy eight reps with a 405 flat bench, you sneer and say he couldn't do "two sets of 225x8 'without the drugs'."

While I've little doubt you've enough experience with these juiced-up motherfuckers to support this conclusion, the very proclamation, particularly given the frequency with which you make it, does strike me as a bit ... ehhh ... I dunno.  Bitter, maybe?  There were, after all, a LOT of bodybuilders who were decently strong even before they gassed or used much on the way of gas.  Of the semi-modern sort, Mike Mentzer and Boyer Coe come immediately to mind.

 

This is why I read Getbig.

[adamhatfield99]

Yeah, yeah

In reality, I was thinking of 220 kg for some reason, but yeah -- I screwed up :| 

I figured you were thinking this.  

[Matt]

Bump.

Any updates on this monster?

I fear for his health.

PS - on page three, it's interesting to see that stavios' post count ended at 666. 

[Taffin]

Bump.

Any updates on this monster?

I fear for his health.

PS - on page three, it's interesting to see that stavios' post count ended at 666. 

Nothing on his health, but I'd be interested in any legal updates anyone has about his trainer/sponsor Monsieur Increlex Eric Favre who got pinched in April this year please



"Eric Favre, founder of Les Trois Chênes laboratories, has been arrested amid alleged trafficking of doping products.

According to Les Progres, Favre and the company’s chief executive Hubert Jaricot were among eight people indicted in Lyon.  Favre’s two sons, company employees and customers were also indicted as part of the probe.  Arrests reportedly took place on Tuesday in the Rhone and Paris regions, Nice, Bordeaux, Mulhouse, Belgium and Luxembourg.

Favre is considered an important figure within the bodybuilding industry, as a trainer and promoter.  The Eric Favre Festival Sport Sante bodybuilding event has been cancelled following his arrest, according to Generation Iron.  The event had been due to be a National Physique Committee (NPC) and IFBB Pro League qualifier event.  The NPC, which claims to be the largest amateur bodybuilding organisation in the United States, stated it was "in shock" at the cancellation.

The IFBB Pro League has no relation to the International Federation of BodyBuilding and Fitness, who say they use the initials illegally.

French reports have claimed the police investigation began in 2016 after a package containing anabolic steroids was intercepted.  The package from Thailand was intended for an address in Rhone.  A police operation was then opened in 2017.  French authorities reportedly identified bodybuilders in Lyon engaged with the purchase and sale of doping products, according to Agence France-Presse.

A company based in Luxembourg and the Les Trois Chênes laboratories have been suspected of having organised the trafficking of doping products, it is claimed.

Public prosecutor Nicolas Jacquet stated the offences could be punishable by 10 years in prison, should the accused be found guilty."


https://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1077916/arrests-made-in-france-over-alleged-drug-trafficking-operation

[Matt]

Taffin - is he any relation to ex-opioid-using NFL former superstar Brett Favre?

[tres_taco_combo]

Taffin - is he any relation to ex-opioid-using NFL former superstar Brett Favre?

lol

brett is a good ole boy from the south with a french last name.  #4

[IRON CROSS]

Dead by Paris Olympics 2024 

[mphgrove]

Dead by Paris Olympics 2024  

The Olympics. Remember when Ben Weider was running around the world trying to politic to get bodybuilding into the summer Olympics and the bodybuilding magazines gave updates on his progress? As big a fan of bodybuilding as I am, that was pretty laughable. For sure, there was a huge elephant or two  in the room in those conversations.

[a_pupil]

The Olympics. Remember when Ben Weider was running around the world trying to politic to get bodybuilding into the summer Olympics? As big a fan of bodybuilding as I am, that was pretty laughable. For sure, there was a huge elephant or two  in the room in those conversations.

didn't some dude called pasquale invent the anabolic diet to get around roid use for vince mcmahon's bodybuilding org 

5 days of fatty shit plus a weekend of gorging on carbs = a gram of natty test a week.

[Taffin]

Taffin - is he any relation to ex-opioid-using NFL former superstar Brett Favre?

lol

brett is a good ole boy from the south with a french last name.  #4

Matt - like tres_taco says, it's co-incidence.  Favre is basically the Swiss-French version of 'Smith' so it's pretty common

[Taffin]

The Olympics. Remember when Ben Weider was running around the world trying to politic to get bodybuilding into the summer Olympics and the bodybuilding magazines gave updates on his progress? As big a fan of bodybuilding as I am, that was pretty laughable. For sure, there was a huge elephant or two  in the room in those conversations.

Yep.  I remember the obsequious, sycophantic and fulsome praise that BW would slather all over 'His Excellency (oh brother) Juan Antonio Samaranch'  

* aka arslikhan


Didn't most of the Olympic Committee from that era turn out to be on the take..?