Believe Dorian and Levrone cycles?

[pellius]

I can maintain 215lb at 10% on 250mgs test a week to 10 days so why would it take 25,000 mgs to maintain an extra 55lb?

It isn't a linear progression like each addition gram adds 10 pounds of muscle. It get exponentially harder until it just stops no matter what you do or take.

[pellius]

The 90's guys are probably honest about how much test and anabolics they are  taking.

But they were also taking legit kigs which makes you blow up lean from within the muscle.

All the difference in the world really.

Legit Kigs didn't even appear until 2012 and then only for about 3 months.

Get out while you can.

[Rascal full]

I bet 99% of these guys always underplay what they take purely because who is going to admit to massive drug abuse? It's hardly something to be proud of and you can't claim how wonderful your genetics are so they lie. Simple as that.

[Coffeed]

Legit Kigs didn't even appear until 2012 and then only for about 3 months.

Get out while you can.

You probably doubt that the German soldiers had dianabol and legit kigs too, don't you?

[kreator]

you'd have to be really retarded and stupid to even remotely believe those were their dosages. Extreme BB is on a totally different level than your gym rat experiences. They probably took  everything they could get their hands on. They don't disclose the dosages cause they would be mindblowing. Consider this, just to carry around so much muslce mass, barely breath and be a monster requires some mental issues to get to that level. And all these people who do that shit are somehow mentally ill. And mentally ill people give a shit about anything else but their crazy goals even if those goals bring them to the brink of an early death.
If you want to be the best at a ''sport'' which requires you being huge and shredded and the gear makes that possible than you know you'll do just about anything to get there. We are all somehow fucked in our heads for paying so much attention to eating, training and of course many of us to drugs. If you admit it or not.

[The Wizard of Truth]

I'll be honest, believe me if you like or call it bullshit I don't care but the base for a pro bodybuilders cycle is min 8grams test according to the current model

[HonestBob]

How many of you have had a pro stay in your house, keep his shit in your fridge, and source his supplements (because he was visiting you and is from a different country) prior to him qualifying for the Olympia?

These mega doses are pure Jackanory (look it up).

Yes, some people take crazy amounts, but not all.

As for 90s guys all slamming in 10gms of test, In the 1990s I came up with a bunch of guys who turned pro, knew their supplier extremely well, and whilst doses varied they were not what some of you want to believe. 

[smoothasf]

The successful body builders I know took the lowest dosages of test. Less than 1 gram... however they said the secret was no to just take lots of test but smaller dosages of lots of different compounds.

[pellius]

You probably doubt that the German soldiers had dianabol and legit kigs too, don't you?

Just Kigtropins.

There has never been any HGH labelled as Kigtropin prior to maybe 2010-11 at the earliest.

You probably believe that gh15 is an IFBB pro and that Dennis Wolf is his top pupil. don't you?

[Julio Ceasar]

Dorian used 750 test plus 500 deca and 50mg anavar

Kevin , test 600 a week, 400 deca and anadrol

Believe that?   Maybe roids were much more potent then?


http://musculardevelopment.com/articles/chemical-enhancement/14337-the-lowdown-on-drugs-part-3-kevin-levrone-shawn-ray-dorian-yates-speak-out.html#.VeN1k1I8KnN

Just bullshit article to get readers bcz they know its a popular subject. everyone wanne know...and they just thro out some shit in the air and people buy read talk about it...

[pellius]

The successful body builders I know took the lowest dosages of test. Less than 1 gram... however they said the secret was no to just take lots of test but smaller dosages of lots of different compounds.

Like who?

No reason to hide their identity because this would be a great source of pride. If it turned out Ronnie took only a gram of Test a week
his greatness would grow even more.

Who are these successful bodybuilders  you claim to personally know?

[Dave D]

Like who?

No reason to hide their identity because this would be a great source of pride. If it turned out Ronnie took only a gram of Test a week
his greatness would grow even more.

Who are these successful bodybuilders  you claim to personally know?

Lol, obviously they're really successful and very well known.

[theworm]

I'm guessing these guys are on around 3.5 grams of test per week.


I'd rather look like Arnold in comando, which I think could be attained at 750 test plus 500 deca a week

[njflex]

I'm guessing these guys are on around 3.5 grams of test per week.


I'd rather look like Arnold in comando, which I think could be attained at 750 test plus 500 deca a week

X2...

[SquatsRule]

Weider always downplayed drugs in bodybuilding. How else are you going to sell Mega Mass one zillion if the pros were to tell the truth that they don't take it?

[theworm]

Weider always downplayed drugs in bodybuilding. How else are you going to sell Mega Mass one zillion if the pros were to tell the truth that they don't take it?

When I was 16 that's how I thought I would look like Shawn ray or Kevin, by mega mass 3000.   All it did was make me have diarrhea ...   I was so delusional , I even bought those damn cybergenics kits!

[ritch]

When I was 16 that's how I thought I would look like Shawn ray or Kevin, by mega mass 3000.   All it did was make me have diarrhea ...   I was so delusional , I even bought those damn cybergenics kits!

I remember getting that stuff thinking I had something special... Saved up my $$$ a while like 3 pouches. Will never forget the foul/disgusting taste after my first sip.

Did everything to make it taste better. Vanilla extract, banana, but it was impossible. Fuckin' Weider and his bullshit empire deserves a massive crash and burn. Flat out the biggest snake oil salesman of all time.

[njflex]

I remember getting that stuff thinking I had something special... Saved up my $$$ a while like 3 pouches. Will never forget the foul/disgusting taste after my first sip.

Did everything to make it taste better. Vanilla extract, banana, but it was impossible. Fuckin' Weider and his bullshit empire deserves a massive crash and burn. Flat out the biggest snake oil salesman of all time.

I SAID 2 CUPS WHOLE MILK  ,,I WOULD RE-READ LABEL OVER AND OVER JUST TO MAKE SURE..BLEW MY INTENSTINES OUT WITHIN 1/2 HR AFTERWARDS..

[ritch]

I SAID 2 CUPS WHOLE MILK  ,,I WOULD RE-READ LABEL OVER AND OVER JUST TO MAKE SURE..BLEW MY INTENSTINES OUT WITHIN 1/2 HR AFTERWARDS..

I used to stare at the box for like half the day as it was sitting on the counter thinking "why?"...

the scoops were the same size as a Tide scoop to clean your clothes. I can almost smell/taste the shit as I type this, lol!

[njflex]

I used to stare at the box for like half the day as it was sitting on the counter thinking "why?"...

the scoops were the same size as a Tide scoop to clean your clothes. I can almost smell/taste the shit as I type this, lol!

I BELIEVE IT HAD TIDE MIXED IN TOO AS AN EMULSIFIER..

[ritch]

I BELIEVE IT HAD TIDE MIXED IN TOO AS AN EMULSIFIER..

Probably made in the same factory...

Should have kept some to see how it fares as laundry detergent. Probably would have done a better job than it's role as a "weight gainer"

[lilhawk1]

I'll be honest, believe me if you like or call it bullshit I don't care but the base for a pro bodybuilders cycle is min 8grams test according to the current model

Yep.  7 grams is the norm, then add in everything else.

[Bevo]

Take it for what it's worth, here in Dallas Jeff Dwelle is a well known "guru" contest prep coach in the area. He is one of the few that has seen branch's  protocols, prep cycles. In his own words "I can't believe he's still alive!!" Somewhere in the 8+ grams a wk

[Van_Bilderass]

Sounds like test dosages must have come up a lot in recent times  

I remember when Titus wanted talk shit about modern bb, in a jailhouse interview
he said about Branch, "that's 3 grams of test a week right there" like it
was some crazy thing.

So now a gram+ a day is standard for pros? I don't know about that.
Some otherwise credible people have said Kai was doing a gram a day of just test,
have no problem believing it in that case, but is it standard now for real?

Lets say guys have doubled or tripled their dosages in recent years, well, it's not doing much from what I can see.
Sure, someone like Branch has surprised me with his longevity, but he isn't growing much, has just managed to hang on for longer than I thought  

I think 10 gram cycles require plenty of narcotics to be tolerable. 

[old-school-lifter]

Take it for what it's worth, here in Dallas Jeff Dwelle is a well known "guru" contest prep coach in the area. He is one of the few that has seen branch's  protocols, prep cycles. In his own words "I can't believe he's still alive!!" Somewhere in the 8+ grams a wk

big doses and genetic hyper- responders like Dorian, Kevin, Shawn ray= champion BB's