This is the modern day example of the natural limit in my opinion

[da_vinci]

No. Most probably this is low doses, prop, mast... Or at least in the past.

And I generally just don't get the point of getting in this condition as a natural and having a photoshoot... why not just throw in a few var candies or some shit just to make it easier for a potographer. I'm sure anyone in thei sane mind would do the same, instead of trying to rape body beyond it's limits.

[devilsmile]

getbiggers have a weird concept of what "natural" means. getbiggers even use terminology like "natty dosages"... what the fuck is "natty dosage".

 Lustral said that he only uses compensatory dosages, LMAO, it's another way of saying that "I don't have to fear over training or under feeding and I have an incredible advantage compared to someone who's only training arsenal is oatmeal and boiled eggs"

some of you probably would still consider yourselves natural if you didn't take steroids but you would alter your genetic make up

[oldtimer1]

getbiggers have a weird concept of what "natural" means. getbiggers even use terminology like "natty dosages"... what the fuck is "natty dosage".

 Lustral said that he only uses compensatory dosages, LMAO, it's another way of saying that "I don't have to fear over training or under feeding and I have an incredible advantage compared to someone who's only training arsenal is oatmeal and boiled eggs"

some of you probably would still consider yourselves natural if you didn't take steroids but you would alter your genetic make up

Then you have the guys in between cycles claiming natural.

[ritch]

Those of you who think that is on gear must have very weak physiques. That is 100% possible. I could easily beat that. Easily.

[Thin Lizzy]

getbiggers have a weird concept of what "natural" means. getbiggers even use terminology like "natty dosages"... what the fuck is "natty dosage".

 Lustral said that he only uses compensatory dosages, LMAO, it's another way of saying that "I don't have to fear over training or under feeding and I have an incredible advantage compared to someone who's only training arsenal is oatmeal and boiled eggs"

some of you probably would still consider yourselves natural if you didn't take steroids but you would alter your genetic make up

You have to be Irish to understand why Lustral and Bigro do that.

To an Irishman, not drinking means you're only drinking beer.

[Papper]

What are your opinions guys do you think this is a naturally attainable physique or not? it's Lorenzo Orozco a physique competitor, around Eugene Sandow's size but with a thicker chest. By the way you may find pictures of him where he looks bigger/freakier but I'm talking about his size/condition in this picture below, I'm not saying he did it naturally because I have no idea either way, but I'm saying that this is possible naturally with 4-5 years of solid training and good dieting.

Inregards to this fella right here,,,you are fooling yourselves friends. as usual,,,this IS the last time LAST TIME I offer my service to this boarding,,, listen this fella is on more substance than highly advance cancer pateint,,,trenbolona and gh up to his chin,,and this he is on beforre he brush teeth everyday,,I dont have more time PM me for truth

Gh15 approved

[Yamcha]

First, photo is shopped
Second, picture is homo
Third, my source confirm that he has taken multiple prohormones and made "mad gainz" bro. Blackstone Labs of Peace.

[nzmusclemonster]

Looks like the kind'a guy who would be welcomed with open arms around certain docks, in Rwanda....

 

[devilsmile]

Those of you who think that is on gear must have very weak physiques. That is 100% possible. I could easily beat that. Easily.

k.

You have to be Irish to understand why Lustral and Bigro do that.

To an Irishman, not drinking means you're only drinking beer.

LMAO I get that .

Then you have the guys in between cycles claiming natural.

they are comedians for sure

[_aj_]

These threads are hilarious. Who cares if he's on or not? I trained for 30 years natty and now I am on TRT dosages. One thing that didn't change is that you have to work hard. Notwithstanding Heath's apparent laziness in the gym, gear or not, it's hard to get in that kind of shape, so props to him.

[Thin Lizzy]

These threads are hilarious. Who cares if he's on or not? I trained for 30 years natty and now I am on TRT dosages. One thing that didn't change is that you have to work hard. Notwithstanding Heath's apparent laziness in the gym, gear or not, it's hard to get in that kind of shape, so props to him.

Back in the Getbig day, GH15 said that guys on GH tend to have a lethargic look to them.

[dj181]

Inregards to this fella right here,,,you are fooling yourselves friends. as usual,,,this IS the last time LAST TIME I offer my service to this boarding,,, listen this fella is on more substance than highly advance cancer pateint,,,trenbolona and gh up to his chin,,and this he is on beforre he brush teeth everyday,,I dont have more time PM me for truth

Gh15 approved

very good

[mazrim]

LOL jrod used to post here and got ripped..admitted of juicing if i'm not mistaken

He should come back. Maybe Squid can get him too. I liked him but don't believe he is natural.
He never admitted to using, though, which I don't really care that much.

[Anna Recksiek]

What are your opinions guys do you think this is a naturally attainable physique or not? it's Lorenzo Orozco a physique competitor, around Eugene Sandow's size but with a thicker chest. By the way you may find pictures of him where he looks bigger/freakier but I'm talking about his size/condition in this picture below, I'm not saying he did it naturally because I have no idea either way, but I'm saying that this is possible naturally with 4-5 years of solid training and good dieting.

If you get that lean naturally you're not gonna have delts like that.
The closest you can get to this naturally is if you're 18 or 19 years old, a true ectomorph who hasn't lifted previously and just started hitting the weights hard while trying to figure out your diet.
You can grow into that from skinny but not diet down to that without something to spare the muscle.

[ritch]

You guys are aware his upper arm is not much bigger than his lower, right?  So he has a strong point, chest/shoulders. Big deal. A few stand out body parts is now gateway to being accused of being on gear, lol...

[_aj_]

You guys are aware his upper arm is not much bigger than his lower, right?  So he has a strong point, chest/shoulders. Big deal. A few stand out body parts is now gateway to being accused of being on gear, lol...

We nit-pick. It's what we do.

[Dr Dutch]

You are delusional if you think you can get better than this without drugs, what do you think is the limit then, post an example.

[Method101]

That is not an ancient greek statue that was made in modern times, and of course even the ancient greeks would exaggerate themselves when they formed statues.

[tommywishbone]

that is totally possible natural.

Agreed.  Dude's thin but cut.  The picture is shopped too, shading and contrast.  Dude weighs 175 absolute max.

That's a whopping 16" arm. Dudes pec are a full 3/4" thick. His vascularity is that of any common heroin addict. He's a runt that diets and workouts.

Anyone that is convinced that he's running gear simply needs to quit lifting weights forever. You are already defeated by your own mental limitations.

[old-school-lifter]

I used to train with Jeff Rodriguez in SF and he was natural and better built than this guy.

NO WAY in hell is this fella lifetime natural

screams all drugs

[Coffeed]

That is not an ancient greek statue that was made in modern times, and of course even the ancient greeks would exaggerate themselves when they formed statues.

If you think they exaggerated so much, then please, take a close look.

[pellius]

Casey Viator 19yrs old 100% natural won (4) major contests.  He could have gone further had he not run afoul of Arthur Jones.  He was fired at Nautilus, moved to socal to train w/ Mentzer.  Got on like 2gr/day of sh$% and never amounted to anything after that.

Steroids don't work.  All hype!!!

Hello, Hulk-Smash

[Method101]

If you think they exaggerated so much, then please, take a close look.

His dick doesn't hang lower than his balls so he can't be a 5%er.

[Jizmo]

and not a single natty was posted in this thread

except the greek statue lol

[oldgolds]

Man ...You are so naive....The guy is a stinkin liar....Don't you understand, once you start taking steroids, you become a liar.