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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2015, 12:06:46 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on September 07, 2015, 11:38:06 AM
There are lots of true believers, but there are lots of independent voters too.  I know a number of them.  I'm one of them.  We are the ones who help decide presidential elections. 


no... you're not... you're Fox News of getbig. You are a pom pom toting cheerleader for the republican party... you know this already
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2015, 12:06:53 PM »
Quote from: The Ugly on September 07, 2015, 11:27:56 AM
Every fucking voter I know. "Yay Team!" right or wrong.  Wish we'd do away with parties altogether. Run completely on issues - no base, no allegiances, no predetermined dogma.

Am I really the only one?

I swear to God, everyone I know, R or D; they just subscribe to every GD position on the list. Not a single independent thought to be had.

Well said.  Should have figured out a way to do this from the beginning.
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #27 on: September 07, 2015, 12:13:46 PM »
Quote from: Option D on September 07, 2015, 12:06:46 PM

no... you're not... you're Fox News of getbig. You are a pom pom toting cheerleader for the republican party... you know this already

Dos Equis hasn't said anything mean about a repub, or anything nice about a dem, in the 10 or 11 years he's been on getbig.

He's voted republican since converting from a wet-stain clinton voter.

This whole "We" thing is laugharific.  He might fancy himself an independent... but wow...
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2015, 12:21:05 PM »
Quote from: Option D on September 07, 2015, 12:06:46 PM

no... you're not... you're Fox News of getbig. You are a pom pom toting cheerleader for the republican party... you know this already

Why thank you.  Fox News is fair and balanced, so I'll take that as a compliment. 

As for the rest, when you come to grips with the fact you are as far left as Obama, then we can talk. 
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2015, 12:36:15 PM »
Quote from: Option D on September 07, 2015, 12:04:00 PM
Exactly,... absolutely zero consistency.

weak minded idiots
 

Indeed, both sides.
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #30 on: September 07, 2015, 12:39:52 PM »
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #31 on: September 07, 2015, 12:46:06 PM »
Quote from: The Ugly on September 07, 2015, 12:39:52 PM
Ok. Wow.

Why?



Because she has good understanding of local politics.  She is right about the size and role of the federal government.  She is right about the need to cut spending and reduce our tax burden.  She is right about national security.  She has actually been one of the loudest voices opposing entrenched DC politicians. 
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #32 on: September 07, 2015, 01:02:59 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on September 07, 2015, 12:21:05 PM
Fox News is fair and balanced

Fox News PROVIDES the balance by tipping far right, to cancel out the far-left of MSNBC.

ANyone delusional enough to believe FOX is center... lol   amazing
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #33 on: September 07, 2015, 01:08:55 PM »
As a still somewhat conservative Fox viewer, Fox is nowhere near fair and/or balanced. No more than MSNBC, CNN, or the f'n Daily Show.
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #34 on: September 07, 2015, 01:16:29 PM »
Quote from: The Ugly on September 07, 2015, 01:08:55 PM
As a still somewhat conservative Fox viewer, Fox is nowhere near fair and/or balanced. No more than MSNBC, CNN, or the f'n Daily Show.

Reasonable minds can disagree.  I haven't been watching much of anything for the past several months, but I've watched enough to have an informed opinion.  Their hard news shows are fair and balanced.  Their opinion shows have a conservative bias, but even those shows always have one or more liberal talking heads participating. 

They should not be mentioned in the same breath with MSNBC. 

CNN has really become more of an entertainment network IMO. 
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #35 on: September 07, 2015, 01:42:25 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on September 07, 2015, 01:16:29 PM
Reasonable minds can disagree.  I haven't been watching much of anything for the past several months, but I've watched enough to have an informed opinion.  Their hard news shows are fair and balanced.  Their opinion shows have a conservative bias, but even those shows always have one or more liberal talking heads participating. 

They should not be mentioned in the same breath with MSNBC. 

CNN has really become more of an entertainment network IMO. 

It's the same thing, different side. I can't watch MSNBC, precisely because they Fox from the Left. Fox's liberal guests (along with Shep/Geraldo) are the only semblance of "balance" on the entire network. Which doesn't quite equate to balanced.

How is this opinion, though? It's simply what it is, same with the others.
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #36 on: September 07, 2015, 01:45:57 PM »
Quote from: The Ugly on September 07, 2015, 01:42:25 PM
It's the same thing, different side. I can't watch MSNBC, precisely because they Fox from the Left. Fox's liberal guests (along with Shep/Geraldo) are the only semblance of "balance" on the entire network. Which doesn't quite equate to balanced.

How is this opinion, though? It's simply what it is, same with the others.

It's not the same.  MSNBC is unmatchable.  Full of hacks.  Al Sharpton has his own show.  Seriously?  O'Donnell?  There is a reason why Fox crushes them in ratings across the board. 

The fact Fox has liberals on all of their opinion shows helps make them fair and balanced. 

Hard news and opinion shows are not the same. 
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2015, 01:52:24 PM »
Quote from: The Ugly on September 07, 2015, 10:51:26 AM
Equivalent to "What about Bush?" from Libs when Obama is criticized. You really feel the need to defend this embarrassing void?



exactly and Bum would be one of the first to trot that one out
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2015, 02:09:56 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on September 07, 2015, 01:45:57 PM
It's not the same.  MSNBC is unmatchable.  Full of hacks.  Al Sharpton has his own show.  Seriously?  O'Donnell?  There is a reason why Fox crushes them in ratings across the board.  

The fact Fox has liberals on all of their opinion shows helps make them fair and balanced.  

Hard news and opinion shows are not the same.  

You're seriously using ratings to validate "balance"? Shall we likewise use record sales to determine Bieber's overall musical relevance?

Sharpton/O'Donnell = stooges, agreed. Beck/Palin/Rove = what, fair and balanced? All regulars on Fox. They're fucking hacks, guy. Ingraham, Coulter ... c'mon, dude. Hannity as well, maybe to a lesser extent, but barely.

This is just blind allegiance; you won't see it because they're yours. They were mine, too, but I got over the cheerleader nonsense. Much easier to see them now for what they are.

Anyway, thanks for the back and forth. Think I've lost interest here.
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #39 on: September 07, 2015, 02:16:15 PM »
Wait, is Dos/Bum formerly 33333.14159/Soul Crusher?
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #40 on: September 07, 2015, 03:28:33 PM »
Quote from: The Ugly on September 07, 2015, 02:09:56 PM
You're seriously using ratings to validate "balance"? Shall we likewise use record sales to determine Bieber's overall musical relevance?

Sharpton/O'Donnell = stooges, agreed. Beck/Palin/Rove = what, fair and balanced? All regulars on Fox. They're fucking hacks, guy. Ingraham, Coulter ... c'mon, dude. Hannity as well, maybe to a lesser extent, but barely.

This is just blind allegiance; you won't see it because they're yours. They were mine, too, but I got over the cheerleader nonsense. Much easier to see them now for what they are.

Anyway, thanks for the back and forth. Think I've lost interest here.

No I'm not using rating to validate balance.  I'm using ratings to show that Fox has better programming. 

Beck is not a Fox regular, unless that has happened in the past several months.  Citing only conservative talking heads to show they are not balanced?  Why not mention all of the liberals who appear on their opinion shows? 
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #41 on: September 07, 2015, 03:28:48 PM »
Quote from: The Ugly on September 07, 2015, 02:16:15 PM
Wait, is Dos/Bum formerly 33333.14159/Soul Crusher?

Nope. 
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2015, 09:27:19 PM »
It's always the people that pride themselves on never watching trash like MSNBC that believe they have this accurate evaluation of the networks.

Hogwash, and Dos Equis is being doubted by conservatives here too.   I mean, a guy that says he never watches the others suddenly knows how to compare them?  Oh, let's ask the deaf guy to do CD reviews.

I watch all 3.   CNN is left of center and more of a "TMZ meets politics" - they'd rather cover a brit wedding than anything the US has to offer.   MSNBC is left wing gotcha tv.  FOX is right wing reinforcement of anger.

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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #43 on: September 08, 2015, 05:12:20 AM »
Quote from: 240 is Back on September 06, 2015, 10:21:53 PM
i'd consider Trump to be an upgrade from palin.
yes, moving in the general direction of 'up'
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #44 on: September 08, 2015, 10:34:27 AM »
Assuming Sarah Palin actually has some understanding of how such a position works...

Trump should offer her Sec. of Energy, just to piss off anyone with a 90+ IQ, and really suck up to the base!
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #45 on: September 08, 2015, 10:50:32 AM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on September 07, 2015, 11:38:06 AM
There are lots of true believers, but there are lots of independent voters too.  I know a number of them.  I'm one of them.  We are the ones who help decide presidential elections. 



As for speaking "American", I find Palin's accent quite annoying but I won't require her to change it. Does Palin speak English or "American"? Similarly I find the Spanish language (both American and Peninsular) annoying.
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #46 on: September 08, 2015, 01:42:08 PM »
Quote from: Skeletor on September 08, 2015, 10:50:32 AM


As for speaking "American", I find Palin's accent quite annoying but I won't require her to change it. Does Palin speak English or "American"? Similarly I find the Spanish language (both American and Peninsular) annoying.

x 1,000 counts of aggravated assault to her irritating, nasally cokcsukcer.

Also, I think she really wants them to speak Palin.
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Re: "Speak American!"
« Reply #47 on: September 08, 2015, 02:21:26 PM »
Quote from: Skeletor on September 08, 2015, 10:50:32 AM


As for speaking "American", I find Palin's accent quite annoying but I won't require her to change it. Does Palin speak English or "American"? Similarly I find the Spanish language (both American and Peninsular) annoying.

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