Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles

[Coach is Back!]

So he CAN throw - but he's throwing at 47.8%....

So his throwing is fine, but he's just mentally poor when it comes to decision making?

You can't have it both ways.  He either has a poor arm, OR he has terrible mentals.  Which is it?

47.8% is awful.   Browns are the worst in league... at 54%.   Saints up near 70%.  

Tebow's arm isn't good enough to make the browns.

Yes, he can throw. Your fucking 47.8 is of how many games? Is it a full season? 10 games? 6? What year was this? Was this in a few qtrs played? For God's sake man just don't throw out a fucking number without something substantial. You do this ALL the time. Wait, Barkley was higher? .......because he played in more games and had more chances?  I know Matt....personally, I worked with him while at Mater Dei and his first year at SC and I can tell Tebow is better.

[Coach is Back!]

How do you defend his quotes?  He's an awesome QB, he should start for another decade and will keep winning.

But yes, his quotes are off, he's a weirdo.  Nobody normal talks like that.

“Isn’t Gatorade the best? Just the best.”

“I banged my head during the Packers game in the playoffs, and the next day I was fine,” says Wilson. “It was the water.”
“I know it works.” His eyes brighten.

Fuck...really? How do YOU defend the quotes? By what you deem "not all there"? BTw, don't throw out quotes without a legit source.

[Jizmonkey]

Yes, he can throw. Your fucking 47.8 is of how many games? Is it a full season? 10 games? 6? What year was this? Was this in a few qtrs played? For God's sake man just don't throw out a fucking number without something substantial. You do this ALL the time. Wait, Barkley was higher? .......because he played in more games and had more chances?  I know Matt....personally, I worked with him while at Mater Dei and his first year at SC and I can tell Tebow is better.

47.9% in 35 games.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13200/tim-tebow

I liked Matt, wish he would have worked out. He didn't exactly have a rocket arm either, even after his shoulder healed.

[Coach is Back!]

47.9% in 35 games.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/13200/tim-tebow

I liked Matt, wish he would have worked out. He didn't exactly have a rocket arm either, even after his shoulder healed.

That's his Philadelphia profile. I like Matt as well. He's a great kid and a hard worker. But he went high in the 4th round. Tebow was Heisman winner. Too many teams are keeping quiet as to why they're not keeping him. Even for a practice squad. Something isn't right.

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Yes, he can throw. Your fucking 47.8 is of how many games? Is it a full season? 10 games? 6? What year was this? Was this in a few qtrs played? For God's sake man just don't throw out a fucking number without something substantial. You do this ALL the time. Wait, Barkley was higher? .......because he played in more games and had more chances?  I know Matt....personally, I worked with him while at Mater Dei and his first year at SC and I can tell Tebow is better.

You can use google with "tebow completion rate".

his entire career of 35 games, he was UNDER 48%.

You're reduced to attacking my sources and stats now.  They're legit.  

Barkley also sucks, but his career % is 60% completion rate... destroys Tebow.



Sorry, tebow is a great guy and amazing role model.  But he's a shitty QB.  This isn't a debate.   All 32 teams and most fans agree.  Only those who think "under 48% completion rate" goes with "Yes, he can throw" still think he's good enough.  But he's not.


Again,

"Under 48%" *DOES NOT EQUAL* "Yes, he can throw"

[240 is Back]

That's his Philadelphia profile. I like Matt as well. He's a great kid and a hard worker. But he went high in the 4th round. Tebow was Heisman winner. Too many teams are keeping quiet as to why they're not keeping him. Even for a practice squad. Something isn't right.

Doesn't matter if he's a heisman winner.  He throws under 48%.

Plus, look at what he did with the Jets when the coach decided to see what the rookie alabama kid could do in that last start.  Tebow lost his shit and went AWOL for that last game, didn't he?

That's not a team player.  That's a ME player.
That's not a good sport, that's a "if I can't start then I won't play" bad sport.

Can you defend that?  ANY player, EVER, throwing a fit because the coach doesn't start him?  He's a pro.  Pros don't like it, but they accept it.  Tebow wouldn't.   Remember that?

[SF1900]

His stats are right here:

http://www.nfl.com/player/timtebow/497135/careerstats

35 games played, he had a 47.9% of completed passes and 17 touchdowns.

[240 is Back]

Look it up.   Dec 23, 2012 or Dec 24, 2012.

Tebow was going to be used in wildcat QB plays, but didn't get the start when Sanchise went down.

So he threw a fit and told coaches not to put him in.  If he can't be starter, then he doesn't want to play.


So now we have a guy who doesn't need to change his mechanics - doing it anyway.
We have a guy who can't throw 48%.  
We have a guy who refuses to obey coach and benches himself.

Yeahhhhhh sorry, not seeing why so few think he's good enough.  

[Jizmonkey]

That's his Philadelphia profile. I like Matt as well. He's a great kid and a hard worker. But he went high in the 4th round. Tebow was Heisman winner. Too many teams are keeping quiet as to why they're not keeping him. Even for a practice squad. Something isn't right.

No its all his games. Seriously look again. 35 games. To me he doesn't pass the eye ball test even after his improvements.

Funny enough if Barkley didn't play that last year in college he would have got drafted in the first round. Too many QB's in college play in a spread offense and when they get to the NFL they actually have to make reads and think.
There are a lot of Heismen winners who were busts. Johnny football will be too if not already.

[Coach is Back!]

Passer rating is higher than Sanchez. If you want to break it down he's more of a dual threat than most.



http://www.nfl.com/player/timtebow/497135/careerstats

[SF1900]

No its all his games. Seriously look again. 35 games. To me he doesn't pass the eye ball test even after his improvements.

Funny enough if Barkley didn't play that last year in college he would have got drafted in the first round. Too many QB's in college play in a spread offense and when they get to the NFL they actually have to make reads and think.
There are a lot of Heismen winners who were busts. Johnny football will be too if not already.

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Russell wilson is very vocal about his religion, and he's one of the TOP faces of the NFL, despite the fact he's not in the elite league of brady or aaron rodgers.

nobody really freaks out that he's religious.  They laugh when he talks about the healing power of nano water and acts a little loopy at times, trailing off, acting odd.  But he's not chased out of the NFL for his beliefs... cause he's a very good player.

Tebow just isn't good enough to be an NFL QB - and he's a disruptive backup who refused to accept the coach's lineup when he wanted to be the starter.  Didn't he actually SIT OUT that last game with NYJ cause he was mad the coach gave the start to that alabama rookie QB they wanted to evaluate?

No team wants a 3rd string QB that is going to publicly throw a hissy fit and refuse to come to work, if he can't start.

Patriots brought him in and looked at him last year. Bill B said he was a good kid. However, rumblings around the organization thought he was half retarded or something. All he would say was yes coach. Ok coach. I'll try harder coach. And then do the same mistake over and over. Supposedly went up to Brady and said "we should hang out"...lol... Nice guy, but he's a toolbag...And doesn't belong anywhere near a football field anymore...

[SF1900]

Patriots brought him in and looked at him last year. Bill B said he was a good kid. However, rumblings around the organization thought he was half retarded or something. All he would say was yes coach. Ok coach. I'll try harder coach. And then do the same mistake over and over. Supposedly went up to Brady and said "we should hang out"...lol... Nice guy, but he's a toolbag...And doesn't belong anywhere near a football field anymore...

What's wrong with Brady and Russel hanging out? 

Getbiggers hang out all the time together. 

[240 is Back]

Passer rating is higher than Sanchez. If you want to break it down he's more of a dual threat than most.
http://www.nfl.com/player/timtebow/497135/careerstats

Maybe you didn't watch the last 2 seasons.

how many "dual threat" QBs were wrecked due to injury?  

And if anything, he should be MORE accurate, if he's so much of a rushing threat.

Come on man, you're scrambling for an argument if we're down to "but he's better than sanchez..."

Passer rating is higher than Sanchez.
http://www.nfl.com/player/timtebow/497135/careerstats

Sanchez passes 56% competion rate, to tebows 48%.

http://www.nfl.com/player/marksanchez/79858/careerstats



I guess at some point, it comes down to a vast, left-wing conspiracy to smear tebow for his religion (even though nobody can show where it's actually happening), a vast 32-team conspiracy to squash tebow for his religion (even though losing costs them millions and Russel Wilson is religious too and they love him), and/or a vast conspiracy... um... what was the last one?


Tebow isn't good enough.   fact.   The people who do football for a living also agree.  

[240 is Back]

Patriots brought him in and looked at him last year. Bill B said he was a good kid. However, rumblings around the organization thought he was half retarded or something. All he would say was yes coach. Ok coach. I'll try harder coach. And then do the same mistake over and over. Supposedly went up to Brady and said "we should hang out"...lol... Nice guy, but he's a toolbag...And doesn't belong anywhere near a football field anymore...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft10/news/story?id=4984943

22 on the Wonderlic test.   Nobody EVER accused tebow of being brilliant.

The NFL defenses are too complex for it, I think all of us kinda see it now.

[Coach is Back!]

Maybe you didn't watch the last 2 seasons.

how many "dual threat" QBs were wrecked due to injury?  

And if anything, he should be MORE accurate, if he's so much of a rushing threat.

Come on man, you're scrambling for an argument if we're down to "but he's better than sanchez..."

Sanchez passes 56% competion rate, to tebows 48%.

http://www.nfl.com/player/marksanchez/79858/careerstats



I guess at some point, it comes down to a vast, left-wing conspiracy to smear tebow for his religion (even though nobody can show where it's actually happening), a vast 32-team conspiracy to squash tebow for his religion (even though losing costs them millions and Russel Wilson is religious too and they love him), and/or a vast conspiracy... um... what was the last one?


Tebow isn't good enough.   fact.   The people who do football for a living also agree.  

Do you know the difference between passes and passer rating?

[Coach is Back!]

Maybe you didn't watch the last 2 seasons.

how many "dual threat" QBs were wrecked due to injury?  

And if anything, he should be MORE accurate, if he's so much of a rushing threat.

Come on man, you're scrambling for an argument if we're down to "but he's better than sanchez..."

Sanchez passes 56% competion rate, to tebows 48%.

http://www.nfl.com/player/marksanchez/79858/careerstats



I guess at some point, it comes down to a vast, left-wing conspiracy to smear tebow for his religion (even though nobody can show where it's actually happening), a vast 32-team conspiracy to squash tebow for his religion (even though losing costs them millions and Russel Wilson is religious too and they love him), and/or a vast conspiracy... um... what was the last one?


Tebow isn't good enough.   fact.   The people who do football for a living also agree.  

I'm scrambling for an argument? Scramble should be your middle name. You won't end an argument or debate until you THINK you've won. I have 7 active players in the NFL not including 3 Rookies that entered this year. His mechanics aren't the problem.

[240 is Back]

His mechanics aren't the problem.

[240 is Back]

Greg Cosell admits it.   McDaniels staked his career on it, and admits it was a mistake. Jaworski skewers him for it.  Even tebow admits he has to fix them.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tim-tebow-goes-back-to-the-basics-with-his-mechanics-060915

Aside from you - who else says tebow's mechanics are fine?  LInk?

[Coach is Back!]

Greg Cosell admits it.   McDaniels staked his career on it, and admits it was a mistake. Jaworski skewers him for it.  Even tebow admits he has to fix them.

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/tim-tebow-goes-back-to-the-basics-with-his-mechanics-060915

Aside from you - who else says tebow's mechanics are fine?  LInk?

Again, I don't give a shit who said it. I've brought this very point up to other prominent S&C coaches who are much more intuitive than me and they agree. These aren't high school coaches, these are D1 and NFL coaches (S&C) that say the same thing.

[Coach is Back!]

So with this video you're basically proving my point because it was when he was the Florida where he won two National Championships, set college passing records and ultimately won the Heisman.

[240 is Back]

So with this video you're basically proving my point because it was when he was the Florida where he won two National Championships, set college passing records and ultimately won the Heisman.

Because his system was superior.  It was built for him, he had NFL talent all over the place around him.  And he was bigger and faster than everyone.

Just because he won a heismann doesn't mean shit for his pro career.
Just because he won 2x titles, etc, etc.
Just because he set college records...

There's a lot of college studs that wash out in the pros.  You can't just skate on talent in the pros.  You have to mentally take apart those defenses.  And Tebow cannot do that.  He's just not smart enough, even after all these seasons.

he's a great dude, but he's just not mentally capable of reacting to complex defenses fast enough.  That's why he throws 47.9%.  Unless you have a different reason?

[TuHolmes]

So with this video you're basically proving my point because it was when he was the Florida where he won two National Championships, set college passing records and ultimately won the Heisman.

Unfortunately College Football and NFL football are two different things.

Running Quarterbacks in the NFL get crushed.

It's easy to win in College when you are a big guy and fast, but in the NFL, you're not fast... you're not big... A 290-300 pound DE is going to come in and chase you down because he's faster than you and you're going to get beat down.

You have to be able to throw in the NFL and unfortunately, that's not something Tebow is capable of at an NFL level.

NFL coaches care about winning above all else. If Tebow could throw and it equate to wins, they would grab him.

There's this really religious guy down in San Diego, I think he plays a big time position, also has some playoff wins I think. Has like 7 kids because he's super religious... Big money quarterback, wins in December.

Here's a hint, his name isn't Ryan Leaf.

[240 is Back]

Lots of QBs are amazing in college, and terrible in the pros.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1047730-50-biggest-quarterback-busts-in-nfl-draft-history

Bad mechanics, low mental ability... hey, even some really smart QBs with great mechanics suck in the pros.

I could argue that tebow got MORE chances because he's a fan favorite.  After pulling that "if I can't start, then I won't play" bullshit, I'm surprised ANY team looked at him again.  Terrible.

[240 is Back]

What do you think I do for a living? Is this another troll job?

Tebow abandoned his team.    Is that what good teammates do?

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=452901.new#new