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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #75 on: September 10, 2015, 10:59:22 PM »
Unfortunately College Football and NFL football are two different things.

Running Quarterbacks in the NFL get crushed.

It's easy to win in College when you are a big guy and fast, but in the NFL, you're not fast... you're not big... A 290-300 pound DE is going to come in and chase you down because he's faster than you and you're going to get beat down.

You have to be able to throw in the NFL and unfortunately, that's not something Tebow is capable of at an NFL level.

NFL coaches care about winning above all else. If Tebow could throw and it equate to wins, they would grab him.

There's this really religious guy down in San Diego, I think he plays a big time position, also has some playoff wins I think. Has like 7 kids because he's super religious... Big money quarterback, wins in December.

Here's a hint, his name isn't Ryan Leaf.



Yeah, I had Ryan during that time in the offseason. It was his demeanor not his skill. As for being different. NFL is a much faster game, faster players, bigger stronger, etc. but Florida had a pro style offense system. Didn't seem to make a difference when he took Denver to a playoff win and was named starting QB for the following season.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #76 on: September 10, 2015, 11:02:04 PM »
NFL is a much faster game, faster players, bigger stronger, etc. but Florida had a pro offense system.

Well... a whole lotta Gator QBs have bombed at the NFL level after being awesome in college.   Tebow is now one of them.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #77 on: September 10, 2015, 11:07:17 PM »
Well... a whole lotta Gator QBs have bombed at the NFL level after being awesome in college.   Tebow is now one of them.

Not by his doing.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #78 on: September 10, 2015, 11:33:00 PM »
Good guy, excellent news.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #79 on: September 10, 2015, 11:45:25 PM »
Not by his doing.

it's someone else's fault that tebow is a 48% passer and can't make a squad?

Whose?

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #80 on: September 10, 2015, 11:49:23 PM »
it's someone else's fault that tebow is a 48% passer and can't make a squad?

Whose?

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #81 on: September 11, 2015, 01:09:45 AM »
it's someone else's fault that tebow is a 48% passer and can't make a squad?

Whose?

Kind of gives new meaning to the republican idea of "picking yourself up by your bootstraps and taking individual responsibility." Tebow fails, and it's everyone else's fault. I guess Tebow should be abdicated of all responsibility and made excuses for because he's a Christian  :D If Tebow was anything else but a religious zealot, people would be saying, "well, he just didn't train hard" or "it had nothing to do with anyone else, but Tebow. He screwed up" or "God helps those who help themselves. Tebow obviously didn't help himself enough."

Nope, none of it is Tebows fault. We can just pick and choose who we want to abdicate all responsibility.
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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #82 on: September 11, 2015, 01:38:16 AM »
I have this explanation in another thread so here's the abbreviated version. 1. He's had basically the same mechanics since high school through college and probably even before that. 2. He problems started after he got let go by Denver. The hype that "he can't throw" is a myth of epic proportion. He was throwing just fine before he got a throwing coach to as one headline put it "teach him how to throw a football" the problem was is this coach fucked it up.

So once again, you don't take someone who has been successful through high school to become one of the best QB's college football has ever seen only to be told you can't throw and have some coach come in and establish another throwing motion and relearning new muscle patterns to throw that football. You don't do that. If that's his natural throwing motion then that's his natural throwing motion...end of story. BUT you can perfect it but for Gods sake you don't reinvent it at the age of 27. Don't be one of ones that became brainwashed into thinking that "he can't throw" that's crap.

The General Manager in Denver was John Elway, but, I'm sure you know more about throwing a football than a Hall of Fame NFL Quarterback.


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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #83 on: September 11, 2015, 01:42:08 AM »
The General Manager in Denver was John Elway, but, I'm sure you know more about throwing a football than a Hall of Fame NFL Quarterback.



Maybe Elway was an atheist and discriminating against Tebow :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #84 on: September 11, 2015, 02:21:30 AM »
Maybe Elway was an atheist and discriminating against Tebow :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

This is the man to whom Coach wants to provide a lesson in football throwing mechanics:


John Albert Elway, Jr. (born June 28, 1960) is a former American football quarterback and current General Manager and Executive Vice President of Football Operations for the Denver Broncos of the National Football League(NFL). Elway played college football at Stanford and his entire 16-year professional career with the Denver Broncos. At the time of his retirement in early 1999, Elway recorded the most victories by a starting quarterback and statistically was the second most prolific passer in NFL history. He was also a prolific rusher of the ball, being one of only two players ever to score a rushing touchdown in four different Super Bowls (the other being Thurman Thomas) and the only quarterback to do so. (156 attempts) [1][2]He led his teams to six AFC Championship Games and five Super Bowls, winning his last two.

Elway was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2004 in his first year of eligibility.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #85 on: September 11, 2015, 06:04:56 AM »
I think Tebow like RG3 never doubted himself at the college level and they expect success in the NFL. When they suffer setbacks or have a bad game, the media gangs up on them and starts questioning their QB IQ, throwing mechanics, decision making etc. Once those doubts set in and their own teammates begin doubting them, they're never the same again. Redskins picked up RG3's option year for this season at $16M!!! You could actually get an entire team of Tebows for that price!

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #86 on: September 11, 2015, 06:35:02 AM »
Maybe elway just doesn't understand football guys

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #87 on: September 11, 2015, 07:30:58 AM »
Yeah, I had Ryan during that time in the offseason. It was his demeanor not his skill. As for being different. NFL is a much faster game, faster players, bigger stronger, etc. but Florida had a pro style offense system. Didn't seem to make a difference when he took Denver to a playoff win and was named starting QB for the following season.

They weren't playing pro style defenses.

That's the difference.

It's not who Tebow is playing with, but who he's playing against.

The guys in the NFL defenses are eating him alive.

It's only the guys about to be cut that he can have good games with.

I like Tebow as a person generally. I do.

He's just not an NFL QB. Add to the fact he refuses to play any other position and it just means he's going to have to get over it.

Every year he doesn't make it now is another year younger guys are starting to add up in terms of roster positions.

I like him, but he's not made for the NFL.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #88 on: September 11, 2015, 08:01:38 AM »
I think Tebow like RG3 never doubted himself at the college level and they expect success in the NFL. When they suffer setbacks or have a bad game, the media gangs up on them and starts questioning their QB IQ, throwing mechanics, decision making etc. Once those doubts set in and their own teammates begin doubting them, they're never the same again. Redskins picked up RG3's option year for this season at $16M!!! You could actually get an entire team of Tebows for that price!

RGIII had a different problem. He has an NFL arm, but, style he plays, almost insures a short career filled with surgeries.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #89 on: September 11, 2015, 08:17:35 AM »
The General Manager in Denver was John Elway, but, I'm sure you know more about throwing a football than a Hall of Fame NFL Quarterback.



I'm sure you know that it was Elway that named him the starting QB for the following season.  But his problems didn't start until AFTER he left Denver so I have no idea what you're talking about.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #90 on: September 11, 2015, 08:21:30 AM »
This is the man to whom Coach wants to provide a lesson in football throwing mechanics:


John Albert Elway, Jr. (born June 28, 1960) is a former American football quarterback and current General Manager and Executive Vice President of Football Operations for the Denver Broncos of the National Football League(NFL). Elway played college football at Stanford and his entire 16-year professional career with the Denver Broncos. At the time of his retirement in early 1999, Elway recorded the most victories by a starting quarterback and statistically was the second most prolific passer in NFL history. He was also a prolific rusher of the ball, being one of only two players ever to score a rushing touchdown in four different Super Bowls (the other being Thurman Thomas) and the only quarterback to do so. (156 attempts) [1][2]He led his teams to six AFC Championship Games and five Super Bowls, winning his last two.

Elway was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 2004 in his first year of eligibility.

Once again....his problems didn't start until after he left Denver. Elway named him as a starter. Why you keep bringing up Elway is beyond me...and obviously you.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #91 on: September 11, 2015, 08:48:58 AM »
Again, no one here is a professional athlete, nor does anyone here consistently train professional athletes.

Even if the coaches and professional trainers saw what was wrong with Tebow, its not like they are not going to announce it to the world. And the average fan, like everyone on here, is probably not seeing it.

Either way, he was cut because he couldn't make the team. He was not good enough. This thread is starting to sound like a conspiracy theory against Tebow. lol
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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #92 on: September 11, 2015, 08:50:08 AM »
Coach I'm not sure if you're trolling here.

We know you're connected and train serious athletes, that being said your contacts agree that the reason Tebow isn't on a team because of what reason ?

Also after reading through this I've lost what your main point is. Was it Tebow's mechanics arent his problem, that he isn't inaccurate or something else?

I'm not attacking you,  if you're just upsetting everyone keep it up,  but it seems like you're arguing just to argue.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #93 on: September 11, 2015, 08:59:06 AM »
Coach I'm not sure if you're trolling here.


Never attribute to evil that which can be adequately be explained by incompetence. ;)

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #94 on: September 11, 2015, 09:00:17 AM »
Again, no one here is a professional athlete, nor does anyone here consistently train professional athletes.


This is a troll job. You don't know if there isn't professional athletes on here also, you know what I do for a living you;ve been to my gym. I work with pro athletes daily and during the offseason primarily football players. You're right up with 240. Congrats

Even if the coaches and professional trainers saw what was wrong with Tebow, its not like they are not going to announce it to the world. And the average fan, like everyone on here, is probably not seeing it.

Either way, he was cut because he couldn't make the team. He was not good enough. This thread is starting to sound like a conspiracy theory against Tebow. lol

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #95 on: September 11, 2015, 09:01:10 AM »
Never attribute to evil that which can be adequately be explained by incompetence. ;)

Which why you have no comeback for my answers

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #96 on: September 11, 2015, 09:07:14 AM »
Coach -

Is tebow's problem mental/decision making?

You say it's not his mechanics, even though so many including tebow say it is... So I'll accept that. 
So why is he only throwing a shitty 48% completion rate?

You're saying he's just not smart enough to read defenses and make good decisions?

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #97 on: September 11, 2015, 09:17:18 AM »
I have this explanation in another thread so here's the abbreviated version. 1. He's had basically the same mechanics since high school through college and probably even before that. 2. He problems started after he got let go by Denver. The hype that "he can't throw" is a myth of epic proportion. He was throwing just fine before he got a throwing coach to as one headline put it "teach him how to throw a football" the problem was is this coach fucked it up.

So once again, you don't take someone who has been successful through high school to become one of the best QB's college football has ever seen only to be told you can't throw and have some coach come in and establish another throwing motion and relearning new muscle patterns to throw that football. You don't do that. If that's his natural throwing motion then that's his natural throwing motion...end of story. BUT you can perfect it but for Gods sake you don't reinvent it at the age of 27. Don't be one of ones that became brainwashed into thinking that "he can't throw" that's crap.

Sorry for my last post, I saw this explanation.

I think when the average person, or getbigger, says Tebow "can't throw" they're not saying he literally can not throw the ball it's that his skill set isn't up to NFL standard, nor was Charlie Ward, Andre Ware, Danny Waurfell, Troy Smith, Jason White, Terell Prior and many other all time college greats.

Kurt Warner, not a college great nor a draft pick, was a guy who needed reps to improve. Coach Kelly also said Tebow needs more game reps. No one has ever been wowed by Tim's arm strength, he's no Stafford,  or his delivery, it's not prototypical, but his charisma and leadership is elite.

So when most say Tebow "can't throw" it means he isn't accurate enough, not that he doesn't have arm strength.

As far as his mechanics coach, it's the same one Tom Brady uses, was his throwing motion completely reinvented or was it refined/fine tuned?

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #98 on: September 11, 2015, 09:20:30 AM »
Seriously Rob, you're out of league in this convo. You're trolling. Troll the poli board. I'm dead fucking on with this I guarantee.
So you know more than all the NFL coaches and scouts in regards to player evaluation? And you are qualified for this because you show guys how to lift weights? And your theory is that there is a massive atheist / liberal conspiracy to keep Tebow out of the NFL because he is a Christian? Don't you realize that there are all kinds of college quarterbacks who are great at the collegiate level but don't cut it in the NFL...Jamarcus Russel, RG3, Tebow, Vince Young, Danny Wuerffel, and the list goes on and on.

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Re: Tim Tebow to Resume SEC Network Analyst Role After Release from Eagles
« Reply #99 on: September 11, 2015, 09:31:28 AM »


Out of all the consistent posters on here, none are professional athletes. Unless Joe Montana is pretending to be Army of One or something. Other than that, no professional athletes have posted in this thread.

Again, no one here has the knowledge that professional trainers or coaches have. They know best. He didn't make the team for a reason. Its not some grand conspiracy to keep Tebow out of the NFL because hes a religious zealot.  ::) ::)
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