Government overreach regarding personal trainers

[The Wizard of Truth]

Here's a photo of him. Piece of lying shit

[HonestBob]

Comparing degrees and certs for PT is a complete red herring if discussing fitness industry regulation.

Of course there should be some level of oversight and accountability within the personal training industry.

In general it is a shite, everyman for himself, low grade human being, cut corners, zero loyalty, no career progression industry. 

Anything that ultimately raises standards, improves trust, rewards ethical companies whilst also punishing those who ruin what could be a great profession should be praised.

Coach, you should know all of this.

If you're wary just because you expect the State to completely balls it up, then of course I agree with you.

[SF1900]

What an idiotic statement. A medical doctor practicing medicine without a license is subject to very serious criminal charges. Some barely educated physical trainer "practicing" (that's laughable in itself) his craft without a "cert" (also laughable) is not subject to any censure at all, other than perhaps having to move to another Planet Fitness if exposed. Few industries have more useless conmen than the physical training business.

This. Medical doctors who have their licenses suspended are not practicing int he USA. Most American doctors who get their license removed, and want to continue practicing, move out of the USA to practice. Those that continue to practice in the USA, are taking a huge risk. The AMA keeps a pretty close eye on this stuff, so I highly doubt that there are many doctors practicing without a license.

[Coach is Back!]

What an idiotic statement. A medical doctor practicing medicine without a license is subject to very serious criminal charges. Some barely educated physical trainer "practicing" (that's laughable in itself) his craft without a "cert" (also laughable) is not subject to any censure at all, other than perhaps having to move to another Planet Fitness if exposed. Few industries have more useless conmen than the physical training business.

I'm fully aware of that but it happens all the time. That's why I said WHEN they get caught. If I remember correctly Michael Jackson's and Joan Rivers Doctors had something going on with their licenses but I can't remember the violations.

[Coach is Back!]

Comparing degrees and certs for PT is a complete red herring if discussing fitness industry regulation.

Of course there should be some level of oversight and accountability within the personal training industry.

In general it is a shite, everyman for himself, low grade human being, cut corners, zero loyalty, no career progression industry. 

Anything that ultimately raises standards, improves trust, rewards ethical companies whilst also punishing those who ruin what could be a great profession should be praised.

Coach, you should know all of this.

If you're wary just because you expect the State to completely balls it up, then of course I agree with you.

I'm very aware. The oversight should come within the industry by the companies that offer the certs. Most know what the reputable ones are. There are also colleges that offer I think two year programs for trainers who wish to make careers out it. This include internships which we do all the time. I'm all in favor of this type of regulation but whatever regulations there are, the government has to stay out of it.

[mr.turbo]

yes it's true we need to rein in the scamming trainers

bring the fist of government down and smite them

[Coach is Back!]

Unless that person is on the Seattle Seahawks.

http://nfl-arrests.pointafter.com/d/a/Seattle-Seahawks

assault, kidnapping, choking women... Culture of Sexual Deviants.

You're seriously getting really fucking irritating trolling every thread I post. You're legit troll. Not even close to kidding.

[Set It Up]

You're seriously getting really fucking irritating trolling every thread I post. You're legit troll. Not even close to kidding.

you need to step up your pm reply game 

[Coach is Back!]

you need to step up your pm reply game 

Hahaha, I'm still at work trying to close up. I'll answer. I always do.

[Set It Up]

Hahaha, I'm still at work trying to close up. I'll answer. I always do.

just busting your balls--youve been great for the advice for me

[Radical Plato]

http://news.yahoo.com/personal-trainers-sweat-washington-d-c-readies-rules-110445263.html

It never ceases to amaze me that people feel a need for a personal trainer.  How pathetic have modern people become? How hard is it to move your fucking body and control what you eat.  Jeezus fucking Christ I swear I was born on another planet.

[SF1900]

It never ceases to amaze me that people feel a need for a personal trainer.  How pathetic have modern people become? How hard is it to move your fucking body and control what you eat.  Jeezus fucking Christ I swear I was born on another planet.

Well, its quite obvious youre just more brilliant than everyone else on this planet!!!!

[Radical Plato]

Well, its quite obvious youre just more brilliant than everyone else on this planet!!!!

Brilliant!  Really?  You mean you see the natural inclination to move and eat enough calories to do so as brilliance.  Fuck, what has this world come to.  Do you need a hand wiping your own arse?

[mr.turbo]

the main function of the trainer is to induce enough guilt to motivate a client to arrive at the gym

people tend to show up if they've paid someone else to meet them there

[SF1900]

Brilliant!  Really?  You mean you see the natural inclination to move and eat enough calories to do so as brilliance.  Fuck, what has this world come to.  Do you need a hand wiping your own arse?

Yes, you are absolutely brilliant. Everyone is beneath you. You are so far ahead of everyone else. We can only stare in great awe at your magnificence.

[Coach is Back!]

the main function of the trainer is to induce enough guilt to motivate a client to arrive at the gym

people tend to show up if they've paid someone else to meet them there

Is that a blanket statement for all trainers and coaches?

[Coach is Back!]

Brilliant!  Really?  You mean you see the natural inclination to move and eat enough calories to do so as brilliance.  Fuck, what has this world come to.  Do you need a hand wiping your own arse?

Again, is that a blanket statement for all trainers and coaches that work with all demographics?

[Fuzzy Nuts]

Well, there are two professions you can learn in 30 min. Personal trainer and prostitute.

Maybe they are one in the same.

[Radical Plato]

Again, is that a blanket statement for all trainers and coaches that work with all demographics?

Yes, Personal trainers are just one of the many pointless and unnecessary occupations that make up this crazy world.  I am sick and tired of seeing these morons crowd gyms and get in the way of those who have no problem with motivating themselves to train.  What is it they do exactly?  They are like the golf caddies of the bodybuilding world, passing the weights to their clients who obviously have too much money for their own good.  Oh, I forgot, they say ridiculous, meaningless dribble in between their dumbbell re-racking service.  To be a personal trainer is humiliating and embarrassing, do these people have no shame?

[mr.turbo]

Is that a blanket statement for all trainers and coaches?

yes I find it to be generally true for all trainers and coaches

[Coach is Back!]

Well, there are two professions you can learn in 30 min. Personal trainer and prostitute.

Maybe they are one in the same.

You're too fucking stupid plus you're a coward to even think about entering this thread with any insight. That being said. Speak when you're spoken to and shut the fuck up.

[Coach is Back!]

yes I find it to be generally true for all trainers and coaches

People I this thread are extremely naive. Both you and Radical Plato do some research and get back to me, and if you're that closed minded this may take a while.......a looooooong while.

[Radical Plato]

People I this thread are extremely naive. Both you and Radical Plato do some research and get back to me, and if you're that closed minded this may take a while.......a looooooong while.

That's the main thing I hate about personal trainers, there unashamed sense of self satisfaction, as if what they do actually means something.  Your a plaything for morons who have to much money for there own good. I get it, you have to pretend your clients aren't complete morons and that you aren't taking advantage of their pathetic wretchedness, but we both know better don't we.

And WTF with the naive comment, you would have to be naive to think you need a  trainer to get you in shape.  Anybody who is so dependent is destined to fail, as it needs to be a lifetime commitment. If you can't pull that shit of on your own, you are doomed to fail and repeat the sad pathetic personal trainer cycle.

[Coach is Back!]

That's the main thing I hate about personal trainers, there unashamed sense of self satisfaction, as if what they do actually means something.  Your a plaything for morons who have to much money for there own good. I get it, you have to pretend your clients aren't complete morons and that you aren't taking advantage of their pathetic wretchedness, but we both know better don't we.

And WTF with the naive comment, you would have to be naive to think you need a  trainer to get you in shape.  Anybody who is so dependent is destined to fail, as it needs to be a lifetime commitment. If you can't pull that shit of on your own, you are doomed to fail and repeat the sad pathetic personal trainer cycle.

Again, for what demographic? I'll agree that their are some bad trainers that just do it for the money. But I could name many that can teach everyone on here a few things. BTW, it's just not about moving and eating less. That's a ridiculous statement in itself.

[HonestBob]

That's the main thing I hate about personal trainers, there unashamed sense of self satisfaction, as if what they do actually means something.  Your a plaything for morons who have to much money for there own good. I get it, you have to pretend your clients aren't complete morons and that you aren't taking advantage of their pathetic wretchedness, but we both know better don't we.

And WTF with the naive comment, you would have to be naive to think you need a  trainer to get you in shape.  Anybody who is so dependent is destined to fail, as it needs to be a lifetime commitment. If you can't pull that shit of on your own, you are doomed to fail and repeat the sad pathetic personal trainer cycle.

The small percentage of good trainers who are out there maximise efficiency for their clients.

Wealthy and successful people, who typically are reasonably intelligent and have above average judgement, pay a premium for that as it means they don't need to waste time. You may think they can do this by themselves but that's not the case and good PTs provide a great service.

You can't judge all PTs by the shit that you see 99% of the time in 99% of the gyms across the world. The industry is full of dross, and Coach is IMO wrong if he thinks certifying bodies can police it. It needs root and branch reform, and even then most PTs will be substandard because the overall quality of personnel attracted to the profession is extremely low. 

Right across all aspects of the fitness industry - PTs, gym managers, therapists, f*ckwit nutritionists who were too dumb to get into the worst Med School - the standards are too low and will remain so until more regulation comes in and it becomes a better controlled and respected industry with more solid companies leading the way.  It's the wild west and everyone in it is held back as a result.