Let's get real: religion is bullshit, only bad things form it.....

[pellius]

Christians are not supposed to fight so if he was a real christian, he would forefit...but like all religious, he will pick and choose what verses to follow and which ones to interpret to fit his agenda

Wrong again.

I love it when non Christians attempt to school practicing Christians on the tenets and beliefs of Christianity.

[The Ugly]

I love practicing Christians who pretend God is good.

Then again, never met one who's read the whole book.

[Thong Maniac]

Look it up yourself. I already related how our own church is involved is helping people whose homes were damaged by a storm. You find it hard to believe because of your bias and anger against people of faith.

Man u sure do pick n choose what points to argue over..never did i say your church didnt donate. Please provide where i said this. Two..cool, ill look it up those "facts" and own you. While I do this, look up what percentage of the USA is Aligned with some form of christianity, and then try and plead your case that the small fraction of atheists are the reason for the countries huge and growing moral crisis. Out of Your entire rant here, this one thing shows how delusional you and your minions of "moral" crusaders are...that you actually believe that these rude, disloyal, non-moral and obscene people in the world are some how overwhelmingly non-christians. I mean what a fuckin laugh fest. Delusion at is finest. Last i checked, the percentage was almost 85-90 percent of the USA is some form of christian/jew, etc. ROFL, On a day to day basis you might graze the shoulders of an atheist walking down the street, and where im from, thats if your lucky. Chances are, that atheist is wise enough to not state his beliefs either for fear of alienating himself in the workplace, social circles, etc. get the fck outa here with "woes me, the atheist world is causing all sorts of problems, wah wah". Thats like blaming the "jews" for all your problems. Just more delusional bllshit for those wo cant cope with real life

[pellius]

I love practicing Christians who pretend God is good.

Then again, never met one who's read the whole book.

It doesn't surprise me that you've never met anyone that has read the whole Bible. You are who you associate with.

That's why you just assume that all Christians never doubt the goodness of God.

It always amazes me that people with such limited experiences (and all of us are limited in that way) just assume they know it all.

Dear Harley,

I believe in a creator simply because it's hard for me to believe that all of this around us just happened purely by chance. That the universe somehow always existed and through a random concussions of molecules evolve to what we have today.

I, too, have struggled mightily with the thoughts you expressed and believe that the bad in this world far outweighs the good. That's why I never had kids (though I was always willing to adopt) and what ended my marriage.

So, to me, a far more interesting question is not whether or not a God exist, but is he good?

[The Ugly]

It doesn't surprise me that you've never met anyone that has read the whole Bible. You are who you associate with.

That's why you just assume that all Christians never doubt the goodness of God.

It always amazes me that people with such limited experiences (and all of us are limited in that way) just assume they know it all.

Guess that explains the junior high-level comprehension. Extra word is yours.

[pellius]

Man u sure do pick n choose what points to argue over..never did i say your church didnt donate. Please provide where i said this. Two..cool, ill look it up those "facts" and own you. While I do this, look up what percentage of the USA is Aligned with some form of christianity, and then try and plead your case that the small fraction of atheists are the reason for the countries huge and growing moral crisis. Out of Your entire rant here, this one thing shows how delusional you and your minions of "moral" crusaders are...that you actually believe that these rude, disloyal, non-moral and obscene people in the world are some how overwhelmingly non-christians. I mean what a fuckin laugh fest. Delusion at is finest. Last i checked, the percentage was almost 85-90 percent of the USA is some form of christian/jew, etc. ROFL, On a day to day basis you might graze the shoulders of an atheist walking down the street, and where im from, thats if your lucky. Chances are, that atheist is wise enough to not state his beliefs either for fear of alienating himself in the workplace, social circles, etc. get the fck outa here with "woes me, the atheist world is causing all sorts of problems, wah wah". Thats like blaming the "jews" for all your problems. Just more delusional bllshit for those wo cant cope with real life

The only one ranting is you. Your hostility and anger towards people of faith is abundantly clear. It says more about you than about believers.

And what people say and what they do and believe are often worlds apart.

A survey was conducted where almost 65% of people believed that animals should have the same basic rights as human. Yet only around 7% of the population are true vegetarians.

Look up cognitive dissonance.

[The Ugly]

The only one ranting is you. Your hostility and anger towards people of faith is abundantly clear. It says more about you than about believers.

And what people say and what they do and believe are often worlds apart.

A survey was conducted where almost 65% of people believed that animals should have the same basic rights as human. Yet only around 7% of the population are true vegetarians.

Look up cognitive dissonance.

You don't say.

[Thong Maniac]

The only one ranting is you. Your hostility and anger towards people of faith is abundantly clear. It says more about you than about believers.

And what people say and what they do and believe are often worlds apart.

A survey was conducted where almost 65% of people believed that animals should have the same basic rights as human. Yet only around 7% of the population are true vegetarians.

Look up cognitive dissonance.

Adressed none of my argument again..delusion of peace. No hostility, just perplexed by delusion of this scale. in fact, your vegan "point" just proved my point totally. You pulled a "Coach". no matter what religion people identify with, immoral obscene and bad behavior will occur regardless, as people are people and religion is just a facade to try and look good externally to others...but deep down, everyone is a piece of shit except for a small minority of believers and non believers. Lack of Religion has nothing to do with the morality crisis you bring up. Thanks for proving my point with those stats bro.

Ok im off to bed, gonna fondle my wives big fake tits now. Enjoy your bible

[pellius]

Adressed none of my argument again..delusion of peace. No hostility, just perplexed by delusion of this scale. in fact, your vegan "point" just proved my point totally. You pulled a "Coach". no matter what religion people identify with, immoral obscene and bad behavior will occur regardless, as people are people and religion is just a facade to try and look good externally to others...but deep down, everyone is a piece of shit except for a small minority of believers and non believers. Lack of Religion has nothing to do with the morality crisis you bring up. Thanks for proving my point with those stats bro.

Ok im off to bed, gonna fondle my wives big fake tits now. Enjoy your bible

Coach and I, along with many others of faith,  will also continue with our lives believing that it does matter how a person behaves and what they believe. Whether they are good or evil. That there is a final justice to all this madness. Though we are not perfect, it gives us the strength and the will to be the best we can be knowing that we will have to answer for our deeds, both good and bad.

Meanwhile you will continue with a life that really has no transcendent meaning expressing your jealousy and hostility towards people who are not like you. Nothing, in the grand scheme of things matter. Good and evil are meaningless.

What an empty, hollow and vapid way to live. But it doesn't make me angry or hostile. I just feel grateful that there is something in my life greater than myself. That it does matter what I do or don't do. That there is a right and wrong that exist independently from my own whims and desires. 

“Without God all things are permitted.”

― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

[Set It Up]

Coach and I, along with many others of faith,  will also continue with our lives believing that it does matter how a person behaves and what they believe. Whether they are good or evil. That there is a final justice to all this madness. Though we are not perfect, it gives us the strength and the will to be the best we can be knowing that we will have to answer for our deeds, both good and bad.

Meanwhile you will continue with a life that really has no transcendent meaning expressing your jealousy and hostility towards people who are not like you. Nothing, in the grand scheme of things matter. Good and evil are meaningless.

What an empty, hollow and vapid way to live. But it doesn't make me angry or hostile. I just feel grateful that there is something in my life greater than myself. That it does matter what I do or don't do. That there is a right and wrong that exist independently from my own whims and desires. 

“Without God all things are permitted.”

― Fyodor Dostoyevsky, The Brothers Karamazov

WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS FROM HIM? do you just make shit up to satisfy your own agenda? Holy fuck the guy makes an opinion and all of a sudden he's evil and empty and hollow. And you arent angry or hostile, yet Ive seen you probably hundreds of times on this board tell people you could beat the shit out of them. What color is the sky in your world? Are you drunk? Are you on drugs? WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING???

[The Ugly]

WHERE DO YOU SEE THIS FROM HIM? do you just make shit up to satisfy your own agenda? Holy fuck the guy makes an opinion and all of a sudden he's evil and empty and hollow. And you arent angry or hostile, yet Ive seen you probably hundreds of times on this board tell people you could beat the shit out of them. What color is the sky in your world? Are you drunk? Are you on drugs? WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING???

Rhetorical, right?

[Set It Up]

Rhetorical, right?

I apologize for not being smart enough to know what that means

[The Ugly]

I apologize for not being smart enough to know what that means

Means your question was really a statement, because the answer is obvious.

[Set It Up]

Means your question was really a statement, because the answer is obvious.

ah, sometimes Im not too swift 

[The Ugly]

ah, sometimes Im not too swift 

Smarter than most, friend.

[Croatch]

The Catholic church alone gives far more money helping the poor and sick than any atheist organization.

And praying is free.

And I give money to the church and I'd love to see you try to give me a swift smack.

So the church gives 100 billion a year to people?  When did this happen?
Oh, I'd only be smacking you for your own well being.  Much like you spank a child who doesn't know any better.

[Man of Steel]

 

[The Ugly]

Feel free to move it, pal.

[pellius]

So the church gives 100 billion a year to people?  When did this happen?
Oh, I'd only be smacking you for your own well being.  Much like you spank a child who doesn't know any better.

No, you wouldn't. You'd be down on your knees praying to God to save you.

[Julio Ceasar]

Religion is a great help and support when life fuck u in the ass! Its a friendly book, there to help you!

Some people need it, a lot of people need it! But they are not aware of it...

[10pints]

Religion is the most pernicious mind virus known to mankind.

Its mode of action begins in the suspension of all logical thought and then renders the infected subject to an imagined all seeing force. The all seeing force keeps a tally of said person's actions, in preparation for a future trial, in a celestial realm, the exact date of which is yet to be decided.

This trial is to be presided over by the imagined force, with no recourse to appeal. If found guilty, the accused will be sent to another realm, where they will be tortured for eternity by a different imagined force. This imagine force having fallen out with the trial judge imagined force over a difference of opinion.

Sounds completely plausible.

[BigRo]

suspension of thought, exactly what you aim for with your 10 pints.

[10pints]

suspension of thought, exactly what you aim for with your 10 pints.

Come on now Ro, as an Irish man, you know that many a great conversation / debate has happened in the fine ale houses in the UK & Ireland. Moments of clarity and inspiration are often acquired in moments of altered states. Man has, since time immemorial, sought out ways in which to expand his world view through the ingestion of substances. Alcohol is but one weapon in the armory, one which I readily admit to enjoying.

[BigRo]

I agree, however you should try sober stillness of mind too. Also some magic mushrooms.

[10pints]

I agree, however you should try sober stillness of mind too. Also some magic mushrooms.

I practice sobriety for 6 days a week. As for shrooms, love them.