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Test e / deca / eq / gh cycle for recomp thoughts ???
« on: November 05, 2015, 05:16:21 PM »
Hey guys, I am considering on starting my blast again next Monday. My goal is to recomp, thus lose fat while adding muscle, whithout having the bloofy bloated look. I am 20, 6'1, 195-205lbs ~8-10% bodyfat now. No PCT/HCG is needed as I am blast & cruising. Thus TRT for life.
This is what I had on mind:
Week 1-12 Test e 600mg
Week 1-12 Deca 400mg
Week 1-12+ Eq 600mg
Week 1-12 Caber 1mg
Week 1-12 Asin 12.5mg ed
Week 1-12+ Ralox 60mg ed
Week 1-12+ GH 5-10iu ed

This is what I now have on mind due to second thoughts on high test:
Week 1-12 Test e 300mg
Week 1-12 Deca 400mg
OPTIONAL***Week 1-12 Tren e 350-400mg**
Week 1-12+ Eq 800mg
Week 1-12 Caber 1-2mg
Week 1-12 Asin 12.5mg eod
Week 1-12+ Ralox 60mg ed
Week 1-12+ GH 5-10iu ed

I don't mind anadrol 50mg/day as a kickstart in the first 4 weeks or Epistane 60mg/day in the last couple weeks.

The diet will be something like this:

upon waking - 2 grams of l carnitine tartrate and 5 grams of bcaas

20 minutes later

Meal 1 - 10 egg whites, 2/3 cups of oat meal, multi-vitamin/omega 3

1 hour later, cup of coffee with a small square of dark chocolate 99% lindt.

During the workout, a shake of 20 grams of power carbs (1 scoop) + 5 grams of bcaa's (5 to 10)

Post workout shake 1 scoop of whey isolate + 1 scoop of power carbs + 10 grams of bcaa's.

45 minute later, meal #2 - 6-8 oz of chicken breast, + 200 grams of white rice + a bowl of salad + 1 gram of vitamin C

meal #3 - 6-8 oz white fish or chicken, with a cup of steamed broccoli or asparagus

meal #4 - a protein shake of 40 grams of whey + 30g almonds or 1tbsp pb

meal #5 - 200 grams of white fish or chicken with 150 grams of white rice

before bed - 2 oz of cottage cheese + yogurt activia with a handful of almonds + 50mg zinc + 50 mcg magnesium + 2 caps of calcium and D3 tablets.

After that i might deicide to cruise on 300mg test and some gh again.

What do you guys think? I am trying to do this right

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Re: Test e / deca / eq / gh cycle for recomp thoughts ???
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 05:46:20 PM »
Bro, that is not high test at all! A gram of test is about the staple.  I would not go below 500mg. Everything else looks ok on #1 cycle.
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2015, 01:33:44 AM »
sorry but your ideas look all over the place. ill have to rip you apart here.

-do you eat real food with your supplements?  ::)

-to start off with you saving some money:
basically anything you supp is completely useless, except maybe multi and fish oil.
-your bcaa timing is pointless.
-carnitine is useless.
-"power carbs" lol 20g carbs is not gonna do anything intra workout.
-pwo shake only needed if you cant eat within an hour.
-vitamin C post workout is stupid. dont take anti oxidants around workouts, there are numerous studies on that.
-zinc magnesium etc are useless. are you vit D deficient? if not, useless.
-calcium, might have a point. studies link it to increased fat loss. i would simply eat more dairy. also dont take calcium and magnesium supps together.

i would simply ditch EVERYTHING except multi and fish oil  ;)

also your AAS ideas are all over the place.

2nd cycle: too many compounds, too low dosages for the good ones.
EQ is shit, why dose it that high?

you dont need raloxifene nor caber with your dosages, however if you wanna use them 20mg ralox is enough, 0.25-0.5mg caber a week is enough.

regarding "recomping":
just use a gram of test and some tren if you want to "recomp". or simply bulk or cut. deca is fine too however if you dont like bloof then why use test/deca  :D

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Re: Test e / deca / eq / gh cycle for recomp thoughts ???
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2015, 02:45:10 AM »
Way too much caber imo. Drop the serm up your aromasin as needed.

Also recomping is shit, either cut or bulk. Try to do both you will get minimal fat loss with minimal muscle gains.

I would suggest using test E and tren E for like 12 weeks.
Kickstart with your anadrol.
EQ is just not worth it if you can handle nandrolone/tren. Drop it.

So yeah test/tren/GH with 4 weeks of drol at the start. Should yeld some decent results.
Maybe add some T3 to speeds up your metabolism and offset the T3 suppression from tren.

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Re: Test e / deca / eq / gh cycle for recomp thoughts ???
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2015, 10:02:17 AM »
wtf is all this shit homo, fucking horrible diet and cycle and everything.

just get test tren and winny / mast - 150-250 prop - 50-150 ace 60-120 stanozolol 150-250 mast prop ed shoot delts glutes lats
3 square meals a day morning lunch dinner include eggs,chicken,beef,fish,offal,salad,rice,pasta,potato,carrot. no nuts and shit like protein powders or activia yogurt or any other bloody supplements.
30 min cardio warm up walking on slight incline treadmill before hitting the weights.

why bother taking GH and spending all your money on it if you don't know how to use anabolic steroids + as we can see not eat properly either.

take 25mg exemestane ED if you are sensitive to aromatase or don't. Skip the caber (personally), use Pramipexole if you really want to at 0.5mg ramping slowly up to 1mg in the morning.

once a week body part training high reps to failure 2-3 sets. you will grow like you always wanted to. im out.

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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2015, 01:16:52 PM »
Guys thanks for putting me back on track. I am a strong believer of GH15. I recently hired a coach, 2x national, this is the kind of diet and drug plan he put me on. The first drug plan.. Yea pretty sad. I came off 4 weeks ago from a sick blast. Cruising on silly test e 300mg a week 150/150 tuesday friday, with 10units growth ed to prime for my next blast. I was running 350mg prop, 1.4 tren, 1.4 eq, 150/120 var/epi ed, 15 units generics, and t3/ancilleries. I am very prone to prolactin and estro sides. I can tell because i have been blasting 700+ tren for over a year. Recently got my hands on pharma dostinex cabergoline, pitched my prami out the window, it's amazing but makes your brain messed up in a weird way. In the final weeks i upped tren to 3-5cc a day lol, reduced test slowly to 70 (got me depressed low test) and i had front loaded eq 3.5g in the first week. Eq tren gh together is the bomb, capped delts, vascularity up the butt crack, feeling like an unstoppable demi god in the gym mirin myself too hard lol. Eq and tren i love, epi my favorite oral by far. I haven't tried anadrol yet. Dbol i love how I feel libido and mood wise, look wise it's disgusting... High test always made me look bloofy and fat, probably from my shitty diet. I wish i had spent those bucs on gh instead of supplements, had a moment of weakness... And wasted money on supplements. The thing is i am extremely prone to acne and im 20, use to have a head full of thick hair, now it thinned so damn much you can start seeing my skull. I guess it's too late to go back in time now, tren is such. I never tried deca, primo, winnie, i have done mast it's amazig sub 10%. What you guys think i should run without getting that insane acne? I mean my doses were crazy, tren makes me break out, and hormone imbalances as well.

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Re: Test e / deca / eq / gh cycle for recomp thoughts ???
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2015, 01:48:08 PM »
The ralox is for my gyno, it's helping thank god. My digestio is better when my fats are lower. So keeping lean meats and white rice, for each meal (chicken/white fish), with egg whites oats upon waking should be perfect. Just need the appropriate carb protein ratio per meal and the daily caloric intake that would be needed including macros.
If i could, i would be running now something like this for aas cycle:
350 prop
1400 tren ace
1400 eq
60-100 epi or 50-150 anadrol sub 10%
10units growth
25 t3 ed
2mg caber/week

Cycling between test e instead of prop and deca instead of eq when aiming for size and thickness. Mast only when sub 10% when aiming to cutdown and look at my best.

However, my skin is destroyed from acne scars, and i get acne from literally anything... Due to my doses being far too high. I have ran npp/tren together, both made me look thick and squarey, awesome look. I wouldn't mind running long esters, in the long run more stable hormones. Something like this would be awesome:
Test e/deca/tren e or test e/eq/tren e or even have 2 anabolics test e/deca/tren e /eq. I love what eq tren together did to me. I have never tried tren e. Nor am experienced enough with deca nor npp. I would be willing to run that with gh of course. What would you guys suggest? I like looking lean, vascular, grainy of course which all comes from tren, high test or deca would ruin that, but if i dose them right i guess i could get away with that right?




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« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2015, 04:15:14 PM »
we got another fucking whitewidow over here lads. gh15 is a fuckhead and complete sleazeball liar. everything about him and whatever he said or claimed to be was a lie, he was nothing but a regular gym rat and a pathological liar ie. sociopath talking shit and making up his own fantasies.

your coach is a shithead (or a spastic), because no real "coach" would ever tell someone (your level) to take 10 iu of growth everyfuckinday (assuming it's 'legitimate' Pharma, otherwise then you can take 50 iu of shit (kig,jig,fig watever) and not see ONE THING [if so, it's placebo] but water retention in the end, with real pharma legit GH even OFF any training if you are single point and have a good base built with AAS 3 months later you will see the power of GH at even 8 iu e2d, creating new muscle tissue that you never knew could exist on your body.

the amount of GH is nowhere near the amount correspondent to the AAS you were gonna be taking. LOL at 600 test e 400 deca 600 eq. why the fuck are you taking 25mcg of t3? what for? your natural thyroid is now fucked for a good while, who knows how long you run that shit for. also no enhanced bodybuilder not even a fucking natty would use 300 test e split x2 a week for a cruise UNLESS they had the body of a 13 year old girl, then i can understand.

you live in AUS, go to the chemist buy Gamophen soap and rub it on everywhere in the shower and wash it off after 5 minutes. ALL your acne AND scars will be gone in 3 weeks, it is a game changer. dont believe me, whatever.

you are so fucked if are using shit like ralox clomid nolva for gyno, i swear to god just use winstrol letro test prop, lower your body fat do cardio and zero carbs if you have fatty tits. oh yeah and ice cold showers for a month will shrink your puffiness completely. prami is always better, you need to take it for 4 weeks at least to get over any sides you might have on it, 0.25 x3 ed.

350 test prop completely fucking useless when running all that other shit. not even as a base dose. minimum 700mg weekly or dont even run it. don't blame your gyno on test, blame it on all the other shit your taking and your lifestyle choices. just do 150mg tren ace ed, and 3g eq at once a week with 80-100mg dbol ed to kickstart or replace the test. you better be looking like an amateur because these are JUST amateur doses.

drol mast zero carb no sodium extremely high potassium when single digit if you want to see your first plumpy muscle baby striations. btw that is the most fucked up diet i have ever seen nearly, a la 14 year old OCD beginner bodybuilder.

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« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2015, 05:00:44 PM »
I fucking hate test prop such Bullshit u need alot of test always and enan is better at 250mgsml cc of that eod is way better than prop eod and to save room in the syringe. It takes a whole vial of prop a week

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2015, 06:34:17 PM »
i definitely agree with you, but it sucks to wait for it to peak unlike prop which hits you fast in 4-5 days

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« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2015, 06:45:50 PM »
These are the compounds that i have on mind:
Testosterone Enanthate
Trenbolone Enanthate
Deca-Durabolin
Equipoise Boldenone

With:
Generic GH

Ancilleries:
Cabergoline
Raloxifene
Aromasin

Which compounds would you have me pick? What dosages and why? I wouldn't mind running all 4. I recently came off T3 since no more tren in the blood.

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« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2015, 07:31:15 PM »
run all 4 at 10g a week
48iu generic hgh
100iu humalog intra workout with intra aminos and carb shake
dont forget your post-workout anabolic window 10 scoops whey protein isolate

clomid nolva for pct

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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2015, 12:25:43 AM »
Heenok, eq is really a game changer. Mostly with tren gives you a totally different more enhanced look. At least for me though... I don't know, because I also have some deca on me which i bought. Really AMAZING labs my current vials of test deca tren eq mast drol etc, a new one i just got. I totally agree with you man, completely on your side. Test e Tren e GH. Yessir. But what still keeps me pondering is whether adding Eq or/and Deca is worth it. Worth the gains, the sides, etc. If deca goes in, tren goes down i guess. No deca more tren. All i am worried about is acne. Or I wouldn't care and load up that syringe twice a day with tren.
If i want more size i am leaning towards the test tren deca since deca is better for size than eq. The thing is eq needs to be ran for a longgggg time and i dont want to wait to throw it in, if not just not worth it.  And it gives a really nice look. So it comes down to size, vs long term l gains with added benefit to the look it gives.
Test e 600
Tren e 400
Deca 400
Gh10

Test e 600
Tren e 400
Eq 600-900
Gh10

(This third cycle is the ultimate limp dick cycle unless i bring test higher becomes too much)
Test e 300
Tren e 400
Deca 400
Eq 600-900
Gh10

One of those three options is what i want to do, maybe with a anadrol front load since I have loads. I even have epistane. Caber asin on hand with ralox.
Which would you guys pick and how would you adjust dosages?

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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2015, 12:54:54 AM »
post pics of you on 5cc tren ace a day pls.

inb4 youre doing the whitewidow

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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2015, 06:03:27 AM »
I would b in jail or dead on 5 cc tren ace a day lol

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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2015, 06:06:21 AM »
i definitely agree with you, but it sucks to wait for it to peak unlike prop which hits you fast in 4-5 days
If u stay on, then the changes happen almost immediately when u raise dosage it's a little quicker any way not quicker than prop though

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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2015, 07:15:54 AM »
If u stay on, then the changes happen almost immediately when u raise dosage it's a little quicker any way not quicker than prop though
fully agree
easiest way would be to run 1g test year round as base
then blast on fast acting gear (npp, tren ace, orals, slin etc)
immediate effects

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« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2015, 08:37:30 AM »
I've been thinking about going up to a gram until January I'm on 500 enanthate only now mayb I can add few lbs havnt ran just test in a while also some dbols I'm at 230 lbs would like to b around 240 and stay in 32 inch jeans which is what im after right now

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« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2015, 11:40:15 AM »
fully agree
easiest way would be to run 1g test year round as base
then blast on fast acting gear (npp, tren ace, orals, slin etc)
immediate effects


Common sense, I hate the low test brigade

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« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2015, 12:44:22 PM »
Check out my insta - _gainsi_ you will see some pics there, I'm softer now, no tren in me just 300 test..

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« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2015, 01:19:36 PM »
that gyno has developed way too far, youll need surgery FOR SURE for that
i wouldnt even bother with ralox letro or whatever...

also youve ran over 2-3g of tren a week?
you dont really have any more mass than our beloved whitewidow  :D
your conditioning is better though

im not exactly a low doser either but when i see posts like 3-5cc tren a day from guys with 16 inch arms..
someone with average genetics could do that with 500mg of test and average bodybuilding diet/routine tbh

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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2015, 01:23:25 PM »
I knew it! :-X

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« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2015, 02:03:19 PM »
Check out my insta - _gainsi_ you will see some pics there, I'm softer now, no tren in me just 300 test..

Fail, massive fail, you look natty for fuck sakes.
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« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2015, 02:41:20 PM »
Love the pic wearing the fanny pack over the shirt and those ultra gay looking jogging pants. You are exactly the type of homo/loser refered to all the time in conversations about people who suck.

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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2015, 02:56:08 PM »
Pictures were taken over 4 weeks ago, gyno is still reducing thank lord, looks so much better it is starting to look normal. And yea i agree on the abuse. I am very impulsive. Arms were 16.5 due to no carbing with very low fats high protein. Something like 400-500 pro 50 carbs 25-30 fats. Now they are around 17.5 on cruise. Anyways, now the hating is done lol, what do you guys suggest as blast?