Fuck Cardio!

[El Diablo Blanco]

From early August to mid Oct, I focused more on cardio.  Wanted to get "shredded".  I found my appetite skyrocketed, I needed to nap more and my body just looked flat.  I actually gained a few pounds in the process.  I stopped cardio.  Focused on lifting only and have lost about 10 pounds, look fuller, feel better, eating better without the nasty cravings.  Fuck cardio.  Sure it might be good for the heart but it does shit for fat loss.

[ritch]

how long did you your sessions last?
No idea how people do it for like 45 min, many times a week. Would rather just eat less...

[El Diablo Blanco]

how long did you your sessions last?
No idea how people do it for like 45 min, many times a week. Would rather just eat less...

went up to 1 hour sometimes.  I bought Amazon Prime and would just watch an hour long show while doing it.  It was useless.  I was constantly hungry after doing cardio.  Would fall asleep instantly while sitting. 

[ritch]

went up to 1 hour sometimes.  I bought Amazon Prime and would just watch an hour long show while doing it.  It was useless.  I was constantly hungry after doing cardio.  Would fall asleep instantly while sitting. 

I've never done an hour of cardio. Must suck ass hardcore. No thanks...

[XFACTOR]

You need cardio AND diet to get really shredded. It's an absolute must especially if you're over thirty.

[Grape Ape]

It absolutely helps fat loss, but not if you put the calories back.

I prefer weight training and conditioning to be mostly synonomous, not caring about aesthetics all too much.  I prefer a good combo of strength and the ability to run, play sports, etc...  So I eat, because after working out for 1-1.5 hours with no rest, you get hungry.

But it's personal.

If I wanted to get shredded, I'd up the intensity, shorten the duration, and eat less.

[ritch]

You need cardio AND diet to get really shredded. It's an absolute must especially if you're over thirty.

But why bother and be totally miserable? Lean is good enough, fuck being all skinny faced and "shredded" nobody can tell shirt on the difference, they just see a person draggin ass and looking unhappy.

Biggest waste of time ever and sacrifice of muscle mass in the process to impress some dudes....

[XFACTOR]

But why bother and be totally miserable? Lean is good enough, fuck being all skinny faced and "shredded" nobody can tell shirt on the difference, they just see a person draggin ass and looking unhappy.

Biggest waste of time ever and sacrifice of muscle mass in the process to impress some dudes....

Only miserable if you allow yourself to be.  You get over it in 10 days. My diet is enjoyable I eat a ton of sushi, good steaks, buffalo, ostrich etc..

Also I like being jacked and able to play full court basketball every week.

[funk51]

     that's what i said...

[Thin Lizzy]

You have to mix up cardio.

I do two runs a week:

1. 5k with 8x50 sprints and 4x440 speed work mixed in.

2. 10k at jogging pace

Both are outdoors. I don't know how people run on treadmills.

[Grape Ape]

You have to mix up cardio.

I do two runs a week:

1. 5k with 8x50 sprints and 4x440 speed work mixed in.

2. 10k at jogging pace

Both are outdoors. I don't know how people run on treadmills.

Treadmills as a last resort - like the woods best, but it cuts down the speed a bit.

[Thin Lizzy]

Treadmills as a last resort - like the woods best, but it cuts down the speed a bit.

I like the dirt, as well. You can get away with concrete when you're young. With age, the body starts to rebel.

Caught an Ultra Running Podcast with a guest who had just run the NYC Marathon. This guy regularly runs 50k & 100k trail races. He said the 26.2 miles on Asphalt, which is way softer than concrete, was much harder on his body than 100k on dirt.

[Yamcha]

Thread title got me excited; Thought OP had found a new form of cardio that is both pleasurable and effective.

[Grape Ape]

Thread title got me excited; Thought OP had found a new form of cardio that is both pleasurable and effective.

Rucking at night, in the woods, or trail runs.

[Grape Ape]

I like the dirt, as well. You can get away with concrete when you're young. With age, the body starts to rebel.

Caught an Ultra Running Podcast with a guest who had just run the NYC Marathon. This guy regularly runs 50k & 100k trail races. He said the 26.2 miles on Asphalt, which is way softer than concrete, was much harder on his body than 100k on dirt.

I agree with that.  I'm not into that kind of running, but I can rip out a 7-10 mile trail run on occasion.   Very cool feeling when the body hits that autopilot stage and you're just kind of floating through the woods.

[ritch]

Thread title got me excited; Thought OP had found a new form of cardio that is both pleasurable and effective.

Sex.
It's called sex... But I don't last long enough, lol...

[Simple Simon]

cardio for weight loss purposes is literally a waste of time, an hours cardio that only burns off around 400 cals???
Just eat 400 cals less and do something enjoyable with that hour.

We had a guy on here doing over 2 hours cardio a day and eating 3600 cals at a bodyweight of 180lbs, no wonder he ended up fat as fuck after 6 months diet.

[Wiggs]

That's because high intensity interval cardio is ideal vs. traditional gerbil
on a wheel. Much less time and much more fat loss. Research it.

[TheShape.]

Some leaner people like myself just don't need it, a nice long walk is okay though.

[Simple Simon]

Some leaner people like myself just don't need it, a nice long walk is okay though.

This, if you dont let yourself become a fat fuck in the first place you dont need it.

[jpm101]

Personal view: cardio very over rated for long lasting fat loss. Too much cardio actually can have a muscle wasting effect on some people, loss of muscle mass that was worked so hard for. For what their worth, a few suggestions for fat loss, rather than endless time on the treadmill.

Try running on heavy beach sand and watch the difference that makes on the body.  20 minutes should do it. If running on  sand hills, 10 minutes should do it. Run in bare feet.

Suggest also interval training. The Tabata method is a good start, 8 to 12 minutes will do it. Many other forms of interval workouts.

Increase the pace of a workout, reducing rest time between sets and exercises. Most guys are just stroking it during gym time..... hanging out, rather than really working out. 45 seconds , as an average time between sets. 60-90 seconds between squats, DL's or cleans.

Checkout the PHA system of training......stamina without a doubt. Also circuit training, the correct way.

Some BB'ers will run 20 to 45 minutes after a good BB'ing session. If wanting serious muscle building results after a serious workout...don't run right after. Save that for another time.  Want to keep the pump and the blood, (with all the bodies natural muscle building chemicals release from that workout) in the area of the body part just worked....than don' run.

Weight training based workouts can do much to greatly increase the endurance and fat loss, and still build solid muscle mass.

Good Luck.

[CalvinH]

Combo of both works best for me.

[local hero]

Sex.
It's called sex... But I don't last long enough, lol...

I prefer to see it as HIT, as we all know short bursts are scientifically proven to burn more fat....

[Thin Lizzy]

cardio for weight loss purposes is literally a waste of time, an hours cardio that only burns off around 400 cals???
Just eat 400 cals less and do something enjoyable with that hour.

We had a guy on here doing over 2 hours cardio a day and eating 3600 cals at a bodyweight of 180lbs, no wonder he ended up fat as fuck after 6 months diet.

Truth. The 10 miles a week I run works out to about a whopping 1000 calories, or ~150 a day, not even a Snickers bar burned.

Cardio is for overall health and fitness with a byproduct that you burn a few calories.

Weight loss and maintenance is all about diet. Sorry fat folks. The truth hurts sometimes.

[CalvinH]

From early August to mid Oct, I focused more on cardio.  Wanted to get "shredded".  I found my appetite skyrocketed, I needed to nap more and my body just looked flat.  I actually gained a few pounds in the process.  I stopped cardio.  Focused on lifting only and have lost about 10 pounds, look fuller, feel better, eating better without the nasty cravings.  Fuck cardio.  Sure it might be good for the heart but it does shit for fat loss.

Have you tried hip hop abs