You just keep babbling about someone getting fired. Can you clarify that for me? Are you referring to Tucker Carlson or the reporter that lied about the lack of a weapon? Slow down, and think before you type. You are having a typical meltdown as shizzo would put it. This is why I tell you to stick to arguing with Coach.
I'll address both. As far as Tucker Carlson, you will need to provide an example where he actually does lie. I don't know anyone that refers to 15-17 years old as children, nor will you find a child psychologist, etc that would. So on that point, your fact check organization is the liar, not Carlson. If you do the math by any normal definition of childhood, Carlson told the truth and your own article included 15-17 to fluff the numbers and try to manipulate data.
And i really don't know if the reporter on the Israeli thing was fired. You tell me. I know Israel is heavily pushing for it because he has a known history of bias and this wasn't an isolated incident
As for your Hannity example, I'm going to ask you what you ask Coach. Do you even read links or watch videos that you post links to? I'm gonna say you do, you are just that stupid. Your comedy central video doesn't show anything that anyone could even define as a lie. Your hannity criticism doesn't even call him a liar themselves. They imply he mistook the meaning and that his understanding is false. Learn the difference between false and a lie. One takes deliberation into account. Look the word "deliberation" up too, as I think that one will go over your head with the multiple syllables.
While we are on you the subject of you looking up definitions, look up the word "severity" as well. First off, you didn't even provide an example of a lie. Hypothetically, if we work off the assumption that you did, they hardly compared to the 2 that i linked. As I've repeated multiple times, you are either stupid or dishonest.
And finally, the irony in all this for me is that several weeks ago you tried side stepping the Hillary/Benghazi thread by asking us if we knew what a lie was. I thought you were trying to derail the conversation, but i understand now. You literally wanted 1 of us to define "lie" for you. Even being a simple little word, you have no clue what it means. That was also the same argument that you proved you don't know what your screen name means...
what's so hard to understand
in the first example you gave the person was fired and the network apogolized
why has Fox never apologized or fired anyone in spite of the fact that they lie all day ...every day
they lied for 2 years about Bengazi. Not just one person altering one tape but multiple people lying day in and day out for 2 years and then when they get the facts from a Republican investigation they fail to report those facts. They fail to correct their lies. They fail to apologize for their lies
No apology for lies about death panels. No apology for all the times they identified a scandal ridden Republican as a Democrat.
Now, on with list. I'll try to give you a few more today if I have time.
As you know there is no shortage of lies to choose from
This is particularly salient because it's multiple people repeating the same lie (the very thing I've been talking about regarding Faux News) and then another Faux New liar saying they never said it
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/apr/27/bill-oreilly/oreilly-says-no-one-fox-raised-issue-jail-time-not/Now let's analyze O'Reilly's specific statement.
It turns out that several Fox shows did mention the possibility of jail time. Here are some examples:
• Paul Gigot, host of the Journal Editorial Reports, Oct. 3, 2009 "Democrats want to require you to buy health insurance or pay a penalty. But they don't want you to call it a tax. Under the Baucus bill, the so-called individual mandate would require everyone to buy health insurance or pay as much as a $1,900 fee. If you don't pay up, the IRS could punish you with a $25,000 fine or a year in jail."
• Sean Hannity, interviewing Greg Mueller, the president of CRC Public Relations, and Penny Lee, a Democratic strategist, on Nov. 10, 2009Hannity: "Jail? Is that..."
Mueller: "We are losing freedom. The Berlin Wall anniversary is just the other day. And these are the kind of policies that used to be imposed on people behind that wall. One problem we're going to have, though, Sean, they're going to have, though, Sean, they're going to have to do something about prisons. They're going to put all these people in jail. It costs $50,000 a year to take care of a prisoner. So they're going to have to do prison reform."
Hannity: "That's going to be true."
Mueller: "Democrats don't like to do prisons."
Hannity: "Put people in jail if they don't get their government mandated health? We're going to tax business. We're going to tax individuals. There's going to be fines. There's going to be penalties. There's a millionaire's tax. We're paying for it through the wall. This is what you want? Your socialist utopia, Penny."
Lee: "You're not in socialist utopia. What they're trying to do is bring competitive choice and bring affordable quality health care."
Hannity: "People in jail?"
• Andrew Napolitano, guest-hosting the Glenn Beck Program, Nov. 10, 2009"For the first time in American history, if this bill becomes law, the feds will force you to buy insurance you might not want or may not need or cannot afford. If you don't purchase what the government tells you to buy, if you don't do so when they tell you to do it, if you don't buy just what they say is right for you, the government may fine you, prosecute you, and even put you in jail."
• Glenn Beck, on his Fox show, Nov. 12, 2009 "But if you don't play by their new rules on health care -- oh, here's a new little twist. Have you heard this? You're going to be looking at a fun little stint in jail."
Later in the show, Beck said, "And oh, yes, the potential jail time. If you don't have health insurance? Jail time. You heard Nancy Pelosi defend that portion of the bill just a few minutes ago. There has got to be some way to force everybody to have health care, right? It is jail."
So we found at least four cases in which hosts or guests brought up the possibility of people being jailed for not having health insurance. Given the amount of programming hours that Fox aired during the health care debate, that's not an overwhelming number of mentions, and if O'Reilly had simply said that Fox didn't beat the drum too loudly on that specific provision, we'd be tempted to give him a pass. But he not only said definitively that "nobody's ever said it" on the network, but also said that his staff had researched the question. So we are left to conclude that either his staff muffed its research or that O'Reilly trying to pull a fast one.
One would think the story ends there, but it doesn't. On April 15, 2010, two days after his initial claim, O'Reilly managed to dig himself deeper.
Faced with evidence from the liberal group Media Matters that jail time had indeed been discussed on Fox, O'Reilly sought to clarify what he meant the first time around.
"Now as we all know, the prison option was taken off the table when the final Obama care bill was being debated," O'Reilly said. "And that's what we were talking to Sen. Coburn about, the final bill debate. Not all that stuff. So, what I said is absolutely true. Nobody at Fox News reported inaccurately about the Obamacare prison situation. Nobody. Yet, Media Matters, as they always do, distorted the entire situation. Shamefully, NBC News and Time magazine lapped up the garbage and put it right out there."
The way we see it, O'Reilly is rewriting history. We see no evidence in his initial statement that he was referring to Fox's references to jail time only during a specific time period. And he subtly tried to bolster his case by the clips he chose to accompany his April 15 comment.
He used two clips to illustrate how Fox had dealt with the question of jail time in the past, both of which consisted of footage of journalists from other networks asking Obama and Pelosi a jail-related question at legitimate news events. Using those clips made it seem to viewers like Fox was getting blasted from the left simply for reporting on genuine news events, when in fact the criticism had to do instead with comments by Beck, Hannity and other hosts and guests who used the Fox platform to attack the health care bill.
O'Reilly said nobody had "ever" said on Fox that you risked jail if you don't buy health insurance, and to us, "ever" means "ever." So we don't buy O'Reilly's after-the-fact defense. We rate his claim Pants on Fire!
