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clen q
« on: November 17, 2015, 05:18:39 PM »
i started up on clen today and i poped 80 mcg of it and it has me wired as fuck and cramping up and shit so i'll lower it down to 40 mcg to get used to it

it's best to start low and work your way up on it yes

i also read max dose would be 160 mcg per day but i sure as fuck ain't ready for that lol

here's more advice i've read on it

Two Week Rotation:

One of the most common methods of Clenbuterol use for fat loss purposes is two weeks on followed by two weeks off. This type of use will normally continue until the end goal is reached. The individual will start with the initial dose and increase it by 20mcg every few days until he has reached the maximum desired or needed dose. The individual will then hold at this dose the final days of the two week period and then discontinue all Clenbuterol use for two weeks. At the end of the two weeks with no Clen, the individual will begin the process again.

The two week rotation schedule is very effective, but there is also a problem. During the off periods you have no Clen in your system, and as a result, a two week period with a decreased metabolic rate. This does not mean you won’t be burning fat during the off week periods, as long as you’re dieting you should still lose fat, but you are giving up the enhancement.
Continuous Use:

Due to the body’s ability to adapt to Clenbuterol, continuous use is very hard for some to get their head around. When we consider that the stimulating effects of a noticeable nature began to wane first, the idea of continuous use for some doesn’t make any sense, but we assure you this method of use can work very well. Remember, the same dose of Clen can keep the metabolism revved for up to 5 weeks.

With this type of use, the individual will begin with the starting dose of 20-40mcg per day and hold at that dose for 2-3 weeks. At the end of the 2-3 week period, the individual will increase the dose by 20mcg and hold at that dose for another 2-3 weeks. From here, the individual will increase the dose 20mcg every 2-3 weeks as needed until the diet or total Clen use comes to an end. This type of use will keep your metabolism revved the entire time. It may not experience as great of an increase as would with a massive or very frequent increasing in dose schedule, but it will be a steady and continuous enhancement. There will be no period in the diet during Clenbuterol use that the individual doesn’t enjoy the metabolic enhancement.
In Between:

The final preferred method of Clenbuterol use falls in-between our other two discussed methods. This type of use will last for 4-6 weeks and can be an excellent way to use it for the individual who is only using it the last few weeks leading up to competition. The individual will start with 40mcg per day and increase periodically until he reaches the maximum desired or needed dose and will hold at the maximum dose the final 7-14 days of the plan. The increases in dosing will not be as dramatic as the two week rotation schedule but stronger than the continuous plan. At this stage, if more Clen is still needed, the individual will need to wait 4-6 weeks before beginning a new phase. This makes this type of use best for those who only need a short period of metabolic enhancement.

Regardless of the type of schedule you use, the maximum Clenbuterol dose will normally be 120mcg per day. Some may find 140mcg per day to be acceptable, especially some men, but no one should for any reason surpass the 140mcg per day mark if they are going to avoid cardiac damage. Regardless of the total dosing or plan of use you use, Clenbuterol use should be kept at no more than 16 weeks of total use. 16 weeks of total use per year should be your guide. For the individual competing in more than one show per year at different stages of the year, we can make exceptions. However, this individual should try to keep the total use as close to a 16 week total every 12 months as possible for safety reasons.

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Re: clen q
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2015, 05:24:04 PM »
I run constant low dose 60mcg for up to 8 weeks resting heart rate is always elevated so it's still doing its job.

Any higher and a good chance of doing damage to your heart

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Re: clen q
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2015, 08:22:20 PM »
80mcg first shot? Where did you get that idea, lol?

I start with a mere 20mcg and get effects from it. Ramp up slowly... Don't even take 40mcg tomorrow as the half life is very long.

Get some taurine for the cramps, if not taking ZMA, get some, it's $10/month anyway. The one night I forget my ZMA, it wake up with a clen cramp in my calve. And those types of cramps leave the muscle fragile after meaning you couldn't train it that day as you normally would, the pain still resides a bit.

Also cut your caffeine intake by half when you start it and really be careful with pre workouts stacked with clen. However... I've taken up to 80mcg of clen with a full serving of NO Shotgun, extra caffeine, 16mg ephedrine, added tyrosine and a yohimbe. I may have added geranium at some point too. But too scared to do that now, but the anger/focus and trainings were really good!

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Re: clen q
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2015, 08:32:30 PM »
ok thanks bros

the pills i got are a 40 mcg dose and there's not a halfer line on them but i guess i'll just try to bite them in half lol

i took 80mcg coz it was chest tri day today, which is my fav day, so i thought i'd go all out.... dumbass that i am lol

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Re: clen q
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2015, 08:38:08 PM »
splitting tabs does not assure 50/50 seperation of the dose, but better than nothing. That is why I like liquid clen so much which nobody has here. You can take a slin pin and dose up slowly.

Going from 40 to 80mcg just feels too overpowering to me. And one thing stims make me is impatient, very antsy. More than any steroid even.
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Re: clen q
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2015, 10:17:29 PM »
Just stick to 40 and take your resting heart rate. You will find that's all you need. You don't need to wait for sides. It's like saying my text isn't working until my nips are itchy lol

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Re: clen q
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2015, 01:38:26 AM »
80mcg for the first day is waaaay too much.
Start at 20mcg and add 20 eod or e3d. I think you can run it for more than 2 weeks if you keep ramping up the dosages. Just dont get above 140-160mcg IMO.

Always run taurine with it, clen depletes taurine levels which leads to cramping and increased risks of heart attacks... Im pretty sure more of the bad effects of clen on heart comes from taurine depletion. 5g to 10g ED proportionaly to your dosage.

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Re: clen q
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2015, 04:07:56 AM »
agree on the taurine thing with regards to cramping, however clen is terrible for your heart, that has nothing to do with taurine.
it increases resting heart rate = increased load on the heart = left ventricular hypertrophy
it also causes fibrosis of the muscle fibers in your heart and necrosis of heart cells afaik.

terrible thing to use, much worse than ephedrine or other stims imo.

used it once for 3 or 4 weeks, was shaking like a heroin addict all the time and couldnt sleep for shit. id also get calf cramps every night, also got cramps in my hamstrings and once in my abs during a workout. let me tell you, that was fucking horrible lol.
the shit works though. that was the only substance that ever made me gain strength on a cut. better than tren for strength for me.
wont ever touch it again though

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Re: clen q
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2015, 04:47:23 PM »
I thought albuterol and nicotine were now being used in combo instead of clen?

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Re: clen q
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2015, 04:53:49 PM »
80mcg for the first day is waaaay too much.
Start at 20mcg and add 20 eod or e3d. I think you can run it for more than 2 weeks if you keep ramping up the dosages. Just dont get above 140-160mcg IMO.

Always run taurine with it, clen depletes taurine levels which leads to cramping and increased risks of heart attacks... Im pretty sure more of the bad effects of clen on heart comes from taurine depletion. 5g to 10g ED proportionaly to your dosage.
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i've been researching this shit all over the net, and some of these sources say that you can even go up to 200 mcg per day, but most sources put the cap at 140 mcg per day

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