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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2006, 08:14:00 AM »
People defend him because he is taking the fall for a whole league.MANY guys were using steroids,yet somehow Bonds is paying the entire price because he is better then EVERYBODY else.Also,I dont think he is an a-hole.I love it that there is at least one athlete who tells the media where to stick it and I also love it that he doesnt think he owes me,as a fan,anything but to produce.I dont ned an athlete to shake my hand or give me a picture.I want them to produce on the field and he does it better then everyoneLastly,using steroids is only cheating if there is a rule against it and while he used ,there was no rule.
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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #26 on: March 09, 2006, 08:14:37 AM »
You must think no one's an A-Hole. Keepin it real and ignoring the press are one thing, he was much more of a creep than just ignoring the press would suggest. She's got him on tape with death threats.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #27 on: March 09, 2006, 08:16:51 AM »
People defend him because he is taking the fall for a whole league.MANY guys were using steroids,yet somehow Bonds is paying the entire price because he is better then EVERYBODY else.Also,I dont think he is an a-hole.I love it that there is at least one athlete who tells the media where to stick it and I also love it that he doesnt think he owes me,as a fan,anything but to produce.I dont ned an athlete to shake my hand or give me a picture.I want them to produce on the field and he does it better then everyoneLastly,using steroids is only cheating if there is a rule against it and while he used ,there was no rule.

Wow, that rationale is almost sad. Are you black? If not do you want to be black?

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #28 on: March 09, 2006, 08:21:35 AM »
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and that's why bodybuilding isnt a sport because cheating is allowed

It's not cheating if everyone is doing it. It's called a fair and level playing field.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #29 on: March 09, 2006, 08:22:41 AM »
It's not cheating if everyone is doing it. It's called a fair and level playing field.

Some of you people are way too easily brainwashed by the media.  ::)
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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2006, 08:31:48 AM »
Am I black?I dont even get the question.I will say this.Where is your outrage over McGuire?It seems like you guys are a lot more angry about Bonds BECAUSE hes black.Listen,Im VERY pro steroids.I think the government has MUCH more important things to do then worry about guys trying to build some muscle.How about if they tried to keep some child molesters behind bars so we dont have to see the same guys get out only to commit crime after crime and rape and kill more kids.

I hate the media.When I see little pudgy goofballs on television like Jay Marriotti of Around The Horn,a guy who couldnt play jv ball for his high school,ripping Bonds ,I want to puke.They are idiots who dont know the first thing about sports or steroids,yet they pass themselves off as experts.

When I go to work,I dont feel the need to shake peoples hands[unless I want to]or speak to everyone,why should Barry Bonds be obligated to do so,especially when that same fan was probably ripping him just a few minutes before.Athletes are paid to perform.Fans think they are entitled to an autograph or hand shake and they arent.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2006, 08:39:58 AM »
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It's not cheating if everyone is doing it. It's called a fair and level playing field.

Some of you people are way too easily brainwashed by the media.

Where's your proof that everyone's doing it? It's not a fair playing field if some aren't using.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2006, 08:42:10 AM »
the only thing ive heard on tape is a guy giving a bitch money and a house and taking care of her triffling ass. never does barry talk about steroids. always a ho in the alley.

Wrong again.  If those wiretaps do exist and they are admitted in court the Federal Grand Jury that he appeared before during the "steroid hearings" will nail him hard on perjury.  He may not be disciplined by the MLB, but I'd be a lot more worried about conviction by the federal government than a professional sports league.

The matter of the wiretaps is not whether they would stand up in court.  It's a matter of whether they'd be admitted or not (wiretaps are always a question of privacy invasion).  If they are allowed, however, you can bet your ass they'll do everything they can to get Bonds for perjury and make an example of him.



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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #33 on: March 09, 2006, 08:44:31 AM »
Am I black?I dont even get the question.I will say this.Where is your outrage over McGuire?It seems like you guys are a lot more angry about Bonds BECAUSE hes black.Listen,Im VERY pro steroids.I think the government has MUCH more important things to do then worry about guys trying to build some muscle.How about if they tried to keep some child molesters behind bars so we dont have to see the same guys get out only to commit crime after crime and rape and kill more kids.

I hate the media.When I see little pudgy goofballs on television like Jay Marriotti of Around The Horn,a guy who couldnt play jv ball for his high school,ripping Bonds ,I want to puke.They are idiots who dont know the first thing about sports or steroids,yet they pass themselves off as experts.

When I go to work,I dont feel the need to shake peoples hands[unless I want to]or speak to everyone,why should Barry Bonds be obligated to do so,especially when that same fan was probably ripping him just a few minutes before.Athletes are paid to perform.Fans think they are entitled to an autograph or hand shake and they arent.
he should be boo'd at every game

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2006, 08:48:29 AM »
Am I black?I dont even get the question.I will say this.Where is your outrage over McGuire?It seems like you guys are a lot more angry about Bonds BECAUSE hes black.Listen,Im VERY pro steroids.I think the government has MUCH more important things to do then worry about guys trying to build some muscle.How about if they tried to keep some child molesters behind bars so we dont have to see the same guys get out only to commit crime after crime and rape and kill more kids.

I hate the media.When I see little pudgy goofballs on television like Jay Marriotti of Around The Horn,a guy who couldnt play jv ball for his high school,ripping Bonds ,I want to puke.They are idiots who dont know the first thing about sports or steroids,yet they pass themselves off as experts.

When I go to work,I dont feel the need to shake peoples hands[unless I want to]or speak to everyone,why should Barry Bonds be obligated to do so,especially when that same fan was probably ripping him just a few minutes before.Athletes are paid to perform.Fans think they are entitled to an autograph or hand shake and they arent.

Your point about McGwire isn't valid because he is no longer playing, hasn't played for quite a few years and there is no detailed information regarding his usage that we know about. When the book comes out detailing all of McGwire's steroid use and no one is up in arms over it then you can ask where the furor over McGwire is.  For the record I think McGwire was juiced and that his records are as phony as Bonds' are.

As for relating to Bonds because you don't like to shake people's hands when you go to work, well that's just comical. I don't know what you do for a living but part of being a MLB player, and especially one that makes $18 million a year before endorsements, autograph sessions and licensing merchandise is counted is being somewhat of an ambassador to the game. Especially when you factor in that Bonds had a ball park built for him, it was designed specifically for him.

I also find it interesting that you don't think Bonds' fans are entitled to an autograph. Are they entitled to one if they pay for one? He seems to earn a ton of money from autograph sessions are those fans not entitled to an autograph or a handshake? Or is he only obligated to be civil to the fans that have allowed him to have a collective yearly income in the $20 million range when they are directly handing over their money?  

Your agenda with Bonds seems to be based more on race than his actual actions.

Are you black? If not, do you want to be black or do you empathize with black men?

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2006, 09:10:48 AM »
Im white.No,I dont want to be black,Im happy with what Iam.Bonds is the greatest player to play in the last twenty years and was long before he used a steroid.He has given me plenty of thrills over the years.You see,I dont look to an athlete to be a good guy or a nice guy or anything but what he is and thats a great athlete.My favorite athletes are Iverson and Carmello Anthony in basketball,Bonds and Giambi in baseball,and Ray Lewis in football.I dont care what they do off the field.Im not interested in their personal life and I certainly dont care if they use steroids.This is a bodybuilding site,Im AMAZED that there are anti-steroid people here.Hey,heres a clue EVERY single pro bodybuilder is taking something.Perhaps you guys should look to another sport if your looking for clean athletes[although I dont know where that is].Im only interested in how a pro athlete entertains me,not if hes a pillar of our society.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2006, 09:15:40 AM »
OJ's looking better & better. :D

Bonds is so warped that even his ridiculous lifestyle hasn't mitigated his warped bitterness. I have a feeling he's built a bubble around him filled with yes men. In fact it's mentioned that he's obnoxious to everyone who is forced to work with him.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2006, 09:24:31 AM »
Im white.No,I dont want to be black,Im happy with what Iam.Bonds is the greatest player to play in the last twenty years and was long before he used a steroid.He has given me plenty of thrills over the years.You see,I dont look to an athlete to be a good guy or a nice guy or anything but what he is and thats a great athlete.My favorite athletes are Iverson and Carmello Anthony in basketball,Bonds and Giambi in baseball,and Ray Lewis in football.I dont care what they do off the field.Im not interested in their personal life and I certainly dont care if they use steroids.This is a bodybuilding site,Im AMAZED that there are anti-steroid people here.Hey,heres a clue EVERY single pro bodybuilder is taking something.Perhaps you guys should look to another sport if your looking for clean athletes[although I dont know where that is].Im only interested in how a pro athlete entertains me,not if hes a pillar of our society.

Hey, here's a clue, Bonds isn't a bodybuilder. It's interesting that your two favorite baseball players are the two most disgraced steroid users in all of MLB. I take it you don't care much about integrity.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2006, 09:32:10 AM »
Im white.No,I dont want to be black,Im happy with what Iam.Bonds is the greatest player to play in the last twenty years and was long before he used a steroid.He has given me plenty of thrills over the years.You see,I dont look to an athlete to be a good guy or a nice guy or anything but what he is and thats a great athlete.My favorite athletes are Iverson and Carmello Anthony in basketball,Bonds and Giambi in baseball,and Ray Lewis in football.I dont care what they do off the field.Im not interested in their personal life and I certainly dont care if they use steroids.This is a bodybuilding site,Im AMAZED that there are anti-steroid people here.Hey,heres a clue EVERY single pro bodybuilder is taking something.Perhaps you guys should look to another sport if your looking for clean athletes[although I dont know where that is].Im only interested in how a pro athlete entertains me,not if hes a pillar of our society.

YEs yes. I don't care if Bonds sticks his wife's head in the toilet and fvcks her in the ass. just Keep hittin them homers, you black bastard.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2006, 09:43:04 AM »
I will say this.Where is your outrage over McGuire?


Why should there be an outrage over McGuire? His career ended long before steriods were tested in the MLB so it's a not an issue, It was legal then (in  MLB). He did however admit to using Andro and if he was using more he kept it quiet. Palmiero, Caminetti, Bonds and however gets busted next are all after they started testing in 2002.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2006, 09:47:15 AM »
Why should there be an outrage over McGuire? His career ended long before steriods were tested in the MLB so it's a not an issue, It was legal then (in  MLB). He did however admit to using Andro and if he was using more he kept it quiet. Palmiero, Caminetti, Bonds and however gets busted next are all after they started testing in 2002.

Please. talk about a double standard. Mgwire juicing OK, Bonds juicing not OK? Steroids have been illegal since 82. major league baseball started testing last year.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #41 on: March 09, 2006, 09:50:34 AM »
No double standard, they started testing AFTER he retired, the other guy's still playing. Huge difference, except to you!

Also a big difference that McQwire was never an overtly obnoxious A-hole!

The attempted analogy's like night & day. Figure it out.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #42 on: March 09, 2006, 09:55:06 AM »
Im white.No,I dont want to be black,Im happy with what Iam.Bonds is the greatest player to play in the last twenty years and was long before he used a steroid.He has given me plenty of thrills over the years.You see,I dont look to an athlete to be a good guy or a nice guy or anything but what he is and thats a great athlete.My favorite athletes are Iverson and Carmello Anthony in basketball,Bonds and Giambi in baseball,and Ray Lewis in football.I dont care what they do off the field.Im not interested in their personal life and I certainly dont care if they use steroids.This is a bodybuilding site,Im AMAZED that there are anti-steroid people here.Hey,heres a clue EVERY single pro bodybuilder is taking something.Perhaps you guys should look to another sport if your looking for clean athletes[although I dont know where that is].Im only interested in how a pro athlete entertains me,not if hes a pillar of our society.


I think YOU'RE the one who should get a clue. I am a pro bodybuilder. A pro NATURAL bodybuilder in 3 organizations. Why should I look to another sport (as you put it) when I'm successful and love what I do without ever having touched steroids or its precusors?

Your suggestion that I should be pro streroids even though I have never touched anabolics and am drug tested, makes no logical sense whatsoever.


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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #43 on: March 09, 2006, 09:56:53 AM »
Please. talk about a double standard. Mgwire juicing OK, Bonds juicing not OK? Steroids have been illegal since 82. major league baseball started testing last year.

No double standard, Mark retired in 1998. MLB started testing in 2002, they didn't start handing down suspensions and fines until 2005.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #44 on: March 09, 2006, 10:00:43 AM »
this sucks I want him to break the records :-\

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #45 on: March 09, 2006, 10:02:19 AM »
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this sucks I want him to break the records

It's ok, you're the same guy who actually thought the Steelers deserved to win the Super Bowl.  ::)

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« Reply #46 on: March 09, 2006, 10:05:37 AM »
It's ok, you're the same guy who actually thought the Steelers deserved to win the Super Bowl.  ::)

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #47 on: March 09, 2006, 10:11:25 AM »
It's ok, you're the same guy who actually thought the Steelers deserved to win the Super Bowl.  ::)

yeah why would they deserve it all they did was score more points than the Seahawks ::)

read the rule book assclown

then first 6 seed to make it to the super bowl and win it, it's great to be a steeler fan ;D

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #48 on: March 09, 2006, 10:15:53 AM »
Hey crazywheels,I was talking about the real pro bodybuilders in the IFBB,you know the ones that are in the magazines.Sorry,I should have been more exact.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #49 on: March 09, 2006, 10:16:59 AM »
YEs yes. I don't care if Bonds sticks his wife's head in the toilet and fvcks her in the ass. just Keep hittin them homers, you black bastard.


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