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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #75 on: March 10, 2006, 08:42:39 AM »
Too simplistic; it's not going away because of a mixture of Barry "up my dose" Bonds' continually ANNOYING persona, his ongoing pursuit of baseball's most revered individual record and the trickling of his ridiculously elaborate drug scheme.

All of those things mixed together grate on people, aside from the press.

yes spring training started up yesterday and at giants game lots of boo's were noticed and that was just at the first preseason game.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #76 on: March 10, 2006, 08:50:07 AM »
please remember that these are all just allegations against Barry at this time, when the truth comes out everybody will learn that Barry was only supplementing with flaxseed oil. 

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #77 on: March 10, 2006, 08:53:03 AM »
Bonds is a momma's boy homo that probably never got his ass whooped by his daddy for lying when he stole candy or cheated at Toss Across.  So he got away with this shit all of his life and thought he had fooled everybody about being a big fake

That's the problem...not so much that he did all the crap we know he did (although that's bad enough)...but that he won't stand up like a man and admit that he took steroids, that he lied in the past about taking them.  

and he pulled a McGwire....bringing his son to spring training to use him as a deterant from obsessive fans and press...pussy




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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #78 on: March 10, 2006, 09:02:22 AM »
.......Where is your outrage over McGuire?It seems like you guys are a lot more angry about Bonds BECAUSE hes black.Listen,Im VERY pro steroids.

I hate the media.When I see little pudgy goofballs on television like Jay Marriotti of Around The Horn,a guy who couldnt play jv ball for his high school,ripping Bonds ,I want to puke.They are idiots who dont know the first thing about sports or steroids,yet they pass themselves off as experts.

When I go to work,I dont feel the need to shake peoples hands[unless I want to]or speak to everyone,why should Barry Bonds be obligated to do so,especially when that same fan was probably ripping him just a few minutes before.Athletes are paid to perform.Fans think they are entitled to an autograph or hand shake and they arent.

I think anyone who uses steroids to become the new KING of their sports is a fuckin wad.  That list includes alot more guys than Bonds....the only one who has really stood up and took his lumps and went back to do greta in the game was Giambi.  I have respect for the guy and he probably never even need to use steroids in the first place!!

But now Bonds is complaining about his injuries ...whahahahahwahahahaha. ..like a damn infant.
He can'[t take the pressure and now his body is breaking down off of the juice...the main thing I want to say is


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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #79 on: March 10, 2006, 09:17:44 AM »
The very fact that Bond' body is breaking down because of age and that steroids were extending his career is the perfect reason why steroids are needed in sports.Why should age end peoples careers when there is a way around the effects of it.Why should guys have to call it quits at 37 when if they use drugs they could play untill they are 45?Why would you guys want to see guys like Clemons or Griffey or any of these stars retire because of old age when if they cycled steroids they could extend their careers.

The guy who said Bonds was a mamas boy is probably too young to remember Bobby Bonds.Barrys father.He was a bad ass and Im sure he didnt let his son get away with anything,in the same way he didnt allow reporters or teams get away with anything.

Lastly,from what I have read ,Giambi was taking the same stuff Bonds was taking.Will he be suspended as well?Will Shefield?Or is it only Bonds.When the investigation begins, will it include Roger Clemmons, a 42 year old man who arguably had his best year last year?I find it amazing that guys dont know why Bonds would lie.Have you seen what are government is about?Only a fool would admit to breaking the law with those idiots in power.By the way Giambi admitted NOTHING!!!Read exactly what he said.Never once did he say "sorry I took steroids".He is smarter then that.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #80 on: March 10, 2006, 09:26:38 AM »
yes spring training started up yesterday and at giants game lots of boo's were noticed and that was just at the first preseason game.

The Giants play here in Scottsdale, AZ.

You have to keep in mind that this area is about as conservative as you can get.  This is Bush country......not only do they not like blacks in this area, but not one as loud as Barry Bonds.  Of course they will boo him due to this controversy. 

I've lived here for 15 years.......I know this area, the people, this is nothing new. 

Barry Bonds starred at Arizona State University,  yet people here don't like the guy.......amazing.  Only in Phoenix.




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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #81 on: March 10, 2006, 09:30:52 AM »
By the way Giambi admitted NOTHING!!!Read exactly what he said.Never once did he say "sorry I took steroids".He is smarter then that.

Giambi admitted to a federal grand jury in 2003 that he took steroids and hgh.  Then he tearfully apologized to his Yankee teammates, fans and to Steinbrenner without saying why he was apologizing. ha ha ha

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #82 on: March 10, 2006, 09:48:16 AM »
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Barry Bonds starred at Arizona State University,  yet people here don't like the guy.......amazing.  Only in Phoenix.

There's precious little to like actually, no surprise that they'd dislike him. Performance isn't the only factor. The guy's gone out of his way to be a piece of shit, and that didn't start all of a sudden. I like the part about putting his hands around the girlfriend, then later informing rather than asking her that she'd have to disappear.

Those personality defficiencies might've been exacerbated over time, but were always there. Funny thing about it, he was always middle class, a lot of his hatred's hand-me-down attitudes from others rather than direct experience, making his indignation all the more absurd and inappropriate.

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« Reply #83 on: March 10, 2006, 10:04:48 AM »
There's precious little to like actually, no surprise that they'd dislike him. Performance isn't the only factor. The guy's gone out of his way to be a piece of shit, and that didn't start all of a sudden. I like the part about putting his hands around the girlfriend, then later informing rather than asking her that she'd have to disappear.

Those personality defficiencies might've been exacerbated over time, but were always there. Funny thing about it, he was always middle class, a lot of his hatred's hand-me-down attitudes from others rather than direct experience, making his indignation all the more absurd and inappropriate.

There's no doubt that he's an asshole, but honestly, so am I; so naturally I can sympathize with him.  If I was him I'd be the same way with the media, after all, they are only out for themselves and their own agendas.  I'd also use AAS, but probably earlier in my career.  I don't think it matters whether he grew up middleclass, so did I, but that doesn't mean I haven't suffered discrimination to some degree.

Racism has no class distinction.  If you can't understand that, then you are probably white.

All in all, I see this as the meda trying to sensationalize one man simply because he doesn't play "the game" of politics.  He says what he wants, does what he wants.  He's a man, not a politician. 




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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #84 on: March 10, 2006, 10:08:08 AM »
If i can't understand that, I'm probably...ahhh, the cheezy race card evoked when all else fails.  ::)

Whatever you do, don't try to talk down to others about racism. ECONOMICS is at least as important as racism. Those in middle-class environments like Bonds was do in fact generally have less to complain about. Racism is exercised by ALL races.

Maybe it's not just the press sensationalizing him as much as him being such an ass that it's extremely easy, almost effortless to write about him. There's no excuse for his bitterness; he's clearly operating in a hermetically sealed, self-created bubble.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #85 on: March 10, 2006, 10:14:29 AM »
Whatever you do, don't try to talk down to others about racism. No. 1 factor is ECONOMICS, not racism. Through in the fact that racism is exercised by ALL races, and it's all a little more balanced.


Maybe it's not just the press sensationalizing him as much as him being such an ass that they make it easy to write about him. There's no excuse for his bitterness; he's clearly operating in a hermetically sealed bubble, which is part of the problem.

I'm not talking down to anyone.  I'm a minority so I can speak on it with some sense of experience.  Can you?

Yes, everyone is discriminatory to some degree.  Balanced?  I'm not sure about all that, it's not a judgement you can make.

Of course he seals himself off, he doesn't trust people's intentions for the most part.  Again, I am the same way, so I can relate.  What you choose to see as "asshole", I see as his way of surviving within the parameters of the profession he's chosen.  In other words, he chooses his own fate. 

He balls in his space.  How many other people can do that?  Clearly he's not out to be Mr. Popularity, so what does it matter?



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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #86 on: March 10, 2006, 10:19:16 AM »
He's clearly developed a SYNDROME-a one-dimensional solution in which everyone else is wrong. If he was self-aware, he would try to deal with it and take some responsibility himself instead of being defensive.

In fact, anyone with any degree of flexibilty would see now after all this, that there might be a problem and start a process of emotional self-examination. He doesn't seem to have the depth to try.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #87 on: March 10, 2006, 10:23:26 AM »
Big Mac friendly?Come on.Talk about revisionist history.The guy was  totally aloof throughout his career and only warmed up because he saw HOW sOSA WAS.Mac was a very standoffish guy for his entire playing career.I liked him a lot but come on,please be acurate.

McGuire is on record as doing tons of charity work.
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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #88 on: March 10, 2006, 10:28:17 AM »
He's clearly developed a SYNDROME-a one-dimensional solution in which everyone else is wrong. If he was self-aware, he would try to deal with it and take some responsibility himself instead of being defensive.

In fact, anyone with any degree of flexibilty would see now after all this, that there might be a problem and start a process of emotional self-examination. He doesn't seem to have the depth to try.

I don't think it's a matter of "lack of depth" but rather the lack of caring that is a factor here.  He doesn't seem interested in seeking the enlightened perspective that you tout so heavily here.

He's an intelligent guy, so I'd have to reason that he just doesn't care what other people think.  Wouldn't you say that's an accurate assessment?

It's certainly not hurting him financially.



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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #89 on: March 10, 2006, 10:44:39 AM »
Does anyone want to be so indifferent that entering the rarefied pariah category alongside Pete Rose, OJ and our very own Louie Ferrigno is acceptible? Shouldn't he care somewhat on how this is perceived by moderating the harshness? Dressing like a woman was probably a clumsy attempt but too little too late.

It seems just like testosterone overload to let it get this far out of hand.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #90 on: March 10, 2006, 10:49:52 AM »
did Barry grow up only "middle class," being the son of a major league star? (even if baseball salaries weren't as astronomical then as they are now)

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #91 on: March 10, 2006, 11:46:11 AM »
Does anyone want to be so indifferent that entering the rarefied pariah category alongside Pete Rose, OJ and our very own Louie Ferrigno is acceptible? Shouldn't he care somewhat on how this is perceived by moderating the harshness? Dressing like a woman was probably a clumsy attempt but too little too late.

It seems just like testosterone overload to let it get this far out of hand.

What is with all of this psychobabble ?   The guy is a bit of a prick, so what. It seems like you give a shit more than he does.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #92 on: March 10, 2006, 12:09:06 PM »
I'm here for the whole season fellas, feel free to ask me any questions.....























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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #93 on: March 10, 2006, 12:21:57 PM »
I'm here for the whole season fellas, feel free to ask me any questions.....

^Stop hoggin' the Trenbolone you slut!   >:(

Stick to "the clear", THG, HGH and Insulin.....

Leave Tren for those of us who lift heavier weight.....





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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #94 on: March 10, 2006, 12:34:18 PM »
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Stop hoggin' the Trenbolone you slut!  

Stick to "the clear", THG, HGH and Insulin.....

Leave Tren for those of us who lift heavier weight.....

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 You want me to jump I'll jump. I've NEVER failed a MLB drug test. as for the above mentioned substances I have no idea as to what you're reffering to. All I want to do is play ball and enjoy the winding down of my career.

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #95 on: March 10, 2006, 12:35:53 PM »
Div,
 You want me to jump I'll jump. I've NEVER failed a MLB drug test. as for the above mentioned substances I have no idea as to what you're reffering to. All I want to do is play ball and enjoy the winding down of my career.

-B.B.

I know you've taken that Tren, nugga.

Don't try to front on me. 

Tren is for us, the people who lift, you can use Winstrol or Anavar.....

Stop hoggin' the Tren!    >:(




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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #96 on: March 10, 2006, 12:41:42 PM »
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I know you've taken that Tren, nugga.

Don't try to front on me.  

Tren is for us, the people who lift, you can use Winstrol or Anavar.....

Stop hoggin' the Tren!

 You can have whatever you want, I'm off to bp.....




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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #97 on: March 10, 2006, 12:48:51 PM »
F*** Bonds, he is a racist A-Hole who needs to just go away!

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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #98 on: March 10, 2006, 01:06:50 PM »
F*** Bonds, he is a racist A-Hole who needs to just go away!

What did Bonds do that was racist?

Why should he go away?




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Re: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement?
« Reply #99 on: March 10, 2006, 01:24:19 PM »
Here's a news flash for all the pansies who don't like Bonds:

There are nice people and not-nice people in this world. The not-nice people are allowed to have jobs too.