Author Topic: Barry Bonds to be suspended, forced retirement? (Read 24009 times)

DIVISION · « **Reply #100 on:** March 10, 2006, 01:25:20 PM »

Quote from: Groink on March 10, 2006, 01:24:19 PM

Here's a news flash for all the pansies who don't like Bonds:

There are nice people and not-nice people in this world. The not-nice people are allowed to have jobs too.

True.

DIV

FREAKgeek · « **Reply #101 on:** March 10, 2006, 01:27:08 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Intenseone on March 09, 2006, 09:43:04 AM

Why should there be an outrage over McGuire? His career ended long before steroids were tested in the MLB so it's a not an issue, It was legal then (in MLB). He did however admit to using Andro and if he was using more he kept it quiet. Palmiero, Caminetti, Bonds and however gets busted next are all after they started testing in 2002.

It is an issue.
McGwire's recent testimony in front of congress was a disgrace. The guy committed perjury and should be punished. It is not fair to the Roger Maris record (which is still the real record).

Steroids for athletic enhancement are illegal in the USA. This alone makes it illegal in oakland and st. Louis organisations. I don't think you need a rule in the MLB saying you can't commit murder on the field.

bmacsys · « **Reply #102 on:** March 10, 2006, 01:30:24 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on March 10, 2006, 01:06:50 PM

What did Bonds do that was racist?

Why should he go away?

DIV

He is quoted by another major leaguer that he wouldn't sign an autograph for a sick white kid.

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #103 on:** March 10, 2006, 01:37:29 PM »

Quote from: bmacsys on March 10, 2006, 01:30:24 PM

He is quoted by another major leaguer that he wouldn't sign an autograph for a sick white kid.

For the 500th time So What. Where is it written you have to be a nice guy to play ball? Ty Cobb was one of the meanest sonofabitches on the face of the earth and he is a legend.

bmacsys · « **Reply #104 on:** March 10, 2006, 01:38:16 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on March 10, 2006, 10:04:48 AM

There's no doubt that he's an asshole, but honestly, so am I; so naturally I can sympathize with him

DIV

Are you proud of the fact your an asshole? I mean seriously? So it gives Bond's and you or anybody else license to treat people like shit? Thats the definition of being an asshole. The crux of the matter is Bond's has fueled all this animosity against him his whole career as a major leaguer by being a dick. If he had acted as a gentlemen or showed even a smidgen of class during his career like a Don Mattingly, a Cal Ripken, a Tony Gwynn people wouldn't be out to crucify him over this steroid issue.

tom joad · « **Reply #105 on:** March 10, 2006, 01:38:45 PM »

Quote from: FREAKgeek on March 10, 2006, 01:27:08 PM

Steroids for athletic enhancement are illegal in the USA.

ha ha only on a bodybuilding board does the obvious need to be stated

buffalo · « **Reply #106 on:** March 11, 2006, 02:53:46 PM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on March 10, 2006, 09:17:44 AM

The guy who said Bonds was a mamas boy is probably too young to remember Bobby Bonds.Barrys father.He was a bad ass and Im sure he didnt let his son get away with anything,in the same way he didnt allow reporters or teams get away with anything.

That would be me and ....Barry's Pop didn't beat him hard enough...Bonds is a mamma's boy....whining and trying to blame the press for shit when all they want is the truth. But Barry doesn't like the spotlight shined on him cause then he'd have to stand up like a man and admit the truth....

And it's not that barry's an asshole ...which he is...it's that he's a puss

Barry "WAAAH WAAH" Bonds

GigantorX · « **Reply #107 on:** March 12, 2006, 02:23:53 PM »

And again, to get more insight into Barry Bonds, there are a few good nuggets of info in Ron Kittle's autobiography "Tales from the White Sox Dugout". He pretty much calls Bonds out for being a racist prick. And yes, he did try to get a ball signed for a sick white boy and Bonds did repsond with "I dont sign no balls for no white kids". You think majorites can only show racism to minorities and not the other way around?...well than, you must be black.

BM OUT · « **Reply #108 on:** March 13, 2006, 06:02:29 AM »

The press wants the truth?When has the media EVER wanted the truth.This is the same press that killed Ben Johnson but NEVER once said a thing about Carl Lewis' failed drug tests.This is a press ,who for years loved Kirby Puckett,but when they found out he beat his wife and was a sexual predator,turned on him,then when he died they fell back in love with him.This is a press that has idiots like Jim Rome in it and Jay Marrioti,two of the biggest jerkoffs in history.The press hates Bonds because Bonds doesnt dance like some trained negro for them.You see when they say "jump Barry",unlike a guy like A-ROD who asks "how high master Jones",Bonds tells them to go scratch and they hate that.Bonds should continue worrying about himself and his family and let those nit wits in the media say whatever they want because at the end of the day ,just like the Sports Illustrated cover from a couple of years ago pointed out "IM BARRY BONDS,AND YOUR NOT".

bmacsys · « **Reply #109 on:** March 13, 2006, 06:29:28 AM »

Quote from: Groink on March 10, 2006, 01:37:29 PM

For the 500th time So What. Where is it written you have to be a nice guy to play ball? Ty Cobb was one of the meanest sonofabitches on the face of the earth and he is a legend.

Cobb hated his competitors on the playing field. Not terminally ill 10 year old cancer patients dude.

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #110 on:** March 13, 2006, 06:39:12 AM »

I'm trying to fathom why someone would defend Bonds.

Nope, can't figure it out yet.

My two favorite Bonds defenses are the "he's an asshole but so am I" defense and the "he doesn't cater to the corrupt media so everyone hates him" defense. Both are highly thought out and rationally debated by their posters. Good job. If Bonds ever reads them I bet he'd approve.

BM OUT · « **Reply #111 on:** March 13, 2006, 10:13:24 AM »

Why would I hate the greatest player of the past twenty years?Because the media tells me to?Because you tell me to?Sorry,I pick the guys I want to root for.I dont let the little sissys in the media like little Mike Lupica or Jim"I just got slapped to the ground by Jim Everett"Rhome, pick my guys for me.I certainly wouldnt stop rooting for someone because they used steroids and I certainly woulnt stop rooting for him because he didnt sign an autograph for some snotty nosed kid that probably just wants to turn around and sell it.Sorry,I root for guys who work hard and there is no one who works harder then Bonds.

jaejonna · « **Reply #112 on:** March 13, 2006, 10:19:28 AM »

I read the whole article and came up with some conclusions to the matter...

1. Bonds was fueled by not only the homerun race but the MLB in satisfying the insatiable appetite for sluggin that came about in 1998

2. There were no laws in MLB at the time that said that Bonds wasnt allowed to take Steroids..

3. Therefore, his record stands

4. He is a peice of you know what, because he is selfish and a concietted a**- hole

5. If he does or doesnt, he ruined what would of been a great career up until the time he took the steroids.

ieffinhatecardio · « **Reply #113 on:** March 13, 2006, 10:49:47 AM »

Quote from: BILLY MIMNAUGH on March 13, 2006, 10:13:24 AM

Why would I hate the greatest player of the past twenty years?Because the media tells me to?Because you tell me to?Sorry,I pick the guys I want to root for.I don't let the little sissys in the media like little Mike Lupica or Jim"I just got slapped to the ground by Jim Everett"Rhome, pick my guys for me.I certainly wouldnt stop rooting for someone because they used steroids and I certainly woulnt stop rooting for him because he didnt sign an autograph for some snotty nosed kid that probably just wants to turn around and sell it.Sorry,I root for guys who work hard and there is no one who works harder then Bonds.

You can't be an adult, either you're 15-17 or your local school system needs to be upgraded.

My favorite quote in your little missive is "there is no one who works harder then Bonds."

Are you serious? He's notorious for not hustling on defense. In fact watching him play defense one gets the impression he simply doesn't care. Oh, and he doesn't exactly hustle it out down the base paths lately either.

Or how about his lack of work this Spring Training? He shows up at the park when he wants, takes three at-bats and then leaves the park with his entourage.

Face the facts, all he cares about now is passing Ruth and in the future getting to 3000 hits. He doesn't care about winning and he certainly doesn't care about his teammates. In fact I would bet he doesn't care about anyone other than himself, his family included.

Your worship of Bonds is delusional.

pumpster · « **Reply #114 on:** March 13, 2006, 11:45:26 AM »

Quote

I read the whole article and came up with some conclusions to the matter...

1. Bonds was fueled by not only the homerun race but the MLB in satisfying the insatiable appetite for sluggin that came about in 1998

2. There were no laws in MLB at the time that said that Bonds wasnt allowed to take Steroids..

3. Therefore, his record stands

5. If he does or doesnt, he ruined what would of been a great career up until the time he took the steroids.

ASININE interpretations:

1/In NO way did MLB fuel or support Bonds' frenzied jealousies. That was entirely on him, as you've confirmed in point 5-he already had a great career. NO ONE but his own ego was telling him that he had to exceed McGwire.
2/ There were laws in place DURING his drug intake, and there's NO sign that he stopped, which you've conviently ignored.
3/ Therefore, your flawed conclusions do not stand.

Special Ed · « **Reply #115 on:** March 13, 2006, 11:50:27 AM »

Quote from: Groink on March 10, 2006, 01:37:29 PM

For the 500th time So What. Where is it written you have to be a nice guy to play ball? Ty Cobb was one of the meanest sonofabitches on the face of the earth and he is a legend.

I knew Ty Cobb. I played with Ty Cobb. Ty Cobb was a friend of mine. Barry Bonds, you are no Ty Cobb.

Special "Quayle Hunter" Ed

jaejonna · « **Reply #116 on:** March 13, 2006, 11:50:50 AM »

1. MLB drug policy let McGuire and Sosa hit home runs... there fore your an idiot
2. Ask bud selig what he said, no laws were broken there fore your still an idiot
3. Therefore pumpster once again nobody care what you think

pumpster · « **Reply #117 on:** March 13, 2006, 11:53:29 AM »

Your jumps in logic are frightening.

Bonds went crazy with a bodybuilder's drug protocol entirely thanks to his all-consuming EGO and JEALOUSY of the attention McGwire got-did you really read the whole article? No one other than him thought it necessary to do what he did, he was already great. No one was tugging on his sleeve complaining that he wasn't McGwire.

It was his FRENZY & JEALOUSLY that got him-if he hadn't escalated his original drug protocol by jumping to BALCO nothing likely would've ever come out.

jaejonna · « **Reply #118 on:** March 13, 2006, 12:06:16 PM »

Well if you want to ignore the leagues lack of initiative, plus the General Manager's and Giants Owners turning their back on Bond's mutation ..then you are correct..

Hey Bonds did become a frenzied roid head, and still is but dont forget the people who give him the stage and $$$ to become such a monster..

jaejonna · « **Reply #119 on:** March 13, 2006, 12:08:45 PM »

Im sure management and baseball wasnt thinking hey ... all these people come to the games to see the guys hit homers...lets make sure they are not on steroids....

BM OUT · « **Reply #120 on:** March 14, 2006, 03:54:59 AM »

Barry Bonds doesnt work hard on defense?What an ahole!!The guy has won 8 freaking golden gloves!!!!Thats 8 golden gloves!!!!!Funny,that a guy who doesnt play defense can fool people into giving him gold gloves.This spring he is trying to rehab his knee.Do you know ANYTHING about being injured??Im sure you dont or you wouldnt question Bonds' work ethic.His workouts are legend and YES NO ONE WORKS harder in the off season!!!Thats how he was able to build his body into a 73,700+ home run hitting machine.Wake up!!!!Listen,try and do some research before you post stupid ass comments.The guy has won 7 MVPs 4 more then anyone else in history.They dont hand those out to guys that dont play defense.As guys get older,their defensive skills diminish.

bmacsys · « **Reply #121 on:** March 14, 2006, 04:51:56 AM »

Quote from: ieffinhatecardio on March 13, 2006, 06:39:12 AM

I'm trying to fathom why someone would defend Bonds.

Nope, can't figure it out yet.

My two favorite Bonds defenses are the "he's an asshole but so am I" defense and the "he doesn't cater to the corrupt media so everyone hates him" defense. Both are highly thought out and rationally debated by their posters. Good job. If Bonds ever reads them I bet he'd approve.

Weren't they posts by a so called "moderator" too?

Palpatine Q · « **Reply #122 on:** March 14, 2006, 05:27:38 AM »

Quote from: pumpster on March 13, 2006, 11:53:29 AM

Your jumps in logic are frightening.

Bonds went crazy with a bodybuilder's drug protocol entirely thanks to his all-consuming EGO and JEALOUSY of the attention McGwire got-did you really read the whole article? No one other than him thought it necessary to do what he did, he was already great. No one was tugging on his sleeve complaining that he wasn't McGwire.

It was his FRENZY & JEALOUSLY that got him-if he hadn't escalated his original drug protocol by jumping to BALCO nothing likely would've ever come out.

And why was Mcgwire getting all that attention? because he was juicing BEFORE Bonds was. I don't know if he was using a "bodybuilder's drug protocol" like bonds was, he was doing "nice" steroids not the "bad" kind like Bonds. And he took steroids for charity. Not selfish,egotistical reasons.

bigdumbbell · « **Reply #123 on:** March 14, 2006, 05:30:53 AM »

Quote from: GigantorX on March 12, 2006, 02:23:53 PM

And again, to get more insight into Barry Bonds, there are a few good nuggets of info in Ron Kittle's autobiography "Tales from the White Sox Dugout". He pretty much calls Bonds out for being a racist prick. And yes, he did try to get a ball signed for a sick white boy and Bonds did repsond with "I dont sign no balls for no white kids". You think majorites can only show racism to minorities and not the other way around?...well than, you must be black.

lots of colored people read this website.

bmacsys · « **Reply #124 on:** March 14, 2006, 05:48:29 AM »

Quote from: Groink on March 14, 2006, 05:27:38 AM

And why was Mcgwire getting all that attention? because he was juicing BEFORE Bonds was. I don't know if he was using a "bodybuilder's drug protocol" like bonds was, he was doing "nice" steroids not the "bad" kind like Bonds. And he took steroids for charity. Not selfish,egotistical reasons.

Yes McGuire was a steroid using phoney too. The difference is Barry Bonds from 1986 on has went out of his way to alienate fans, opposing players, teamates, it seems even his own employees and people in his personal life. he is a VERY hard guy to root for. Thats why he and the liar Palmiero are really catching shit. the guys who came clean like Giambi, Canseco, Caminiti didn't catch nearly the heat as Bond's.