summary of working from another forum, agree?disagree?

[el numero uno]

Can you guys imagine a world without people passionated about what they do for a living?

The reason we have internet, wi-fi, etc is because physicists, mathematicians, IT people, etc love what they do and come up with awesome ideas. Wheter money is the goal or not that's not the point.

Ironically, you now have losers using this same media to put down people who try to make a better world.  

[The True Adonis]

I disagree. The text was probably written by some suicidal malcontent who has completely lost perspective and has more serious problems than life direction.

Anyone who identifies with the text and lives in the West needs to understand how the other 80% of the world lives.

Exactly.

If anyone wants to find out what its like to live opposite of that text, just look to your nearest black ghetto.  See how fun and "free" that kind of life is.   

[Radical Plato]

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If anyone wants to find out what its like to live opposite of that text, just look to your nearest black ghetto.  See how fun and "free" that kind of life is.  

Your thinking is so sad, in your mind the only options are wage slavery or living in the ghetto.  

[Raymondo]

Exactly.

If anyone wants to find out what its like to live opposite of that text, just look to your nearest black ghetto.  See how fun and "free" that kind of life is.   

I watched a film called Sicario yesterday, part of it takes place in Juarez, Mexico.

It's impossible to bitch about life when you see what goes on there.

[DanM]

My favorite is when people brag about how many hours they work as if it were a badge of honor.

[Papper]

My favorite is when people brag about how many hours they work as if it were a badge of honor.

It seems some of my coworkers take pride in working at weekends and at night. They're kind of smug about it, not openly bragging but they seem proud.

[10pints]

The majority of people work hard to acquire more money, to buy more stuff, which depletes resources at a faster rate. All in a vain attempt to become a more attractive proposition for potential mates.

I think Bertrand Russell was onto something when he proposed a society which was more focused on the pursuit of knowledge, over the pursuit of money.

[Radical Plato]

The majority of people work hard to acquire more money, to buy more stuff, which depletes resources at a faster rate. All in a vain attempt to become a more attractive proposition for potential mates.

I think Bertrand Russell was onto something when he proposed a society which was more focused on the pursuit of knowledge, over the pursuit of money.

“Suppose that, at a given moment, a certain number of people are engaged in the manufacture of pins. They make as many pins as the world needs, working (say) eight hours a day. Someone makes an invention by which the same number of men can make twice as many pins: pins are already so cheap that hardly any more will be bought at a lower price. In a sensible world, everybody concerned in the manufacturing of pins would take to working four hours instead of eight, and everything else would go on as before. But in the actual world this would be thought demoralizing. The men still work eight hours, there are too many pins, some employers go bankrupt, and half the men previously concerned in making pins are thrown out of work. There is, in the end, just as much leisure as on the other plan, but half the men are totally idle while half are still overworked. In this way, it is insured that the unavoidable leisure shall cause misery all round instead of being a universal source of happiness. Can anything more insane be imagined?”
-   Bertrand Russell, In Praise of Idleness and Other Essays

One of the symptoms of an approaching nervous breakdown is the belief that one's work is terribly important.
-   Bertrand Russell, Conquest of Happiness

[phreak]

It's quite endearing to see Radical Plato try to emulate TA. Just not as good at googling or interpreting his own finds yet.

[Tapeworm]

That guy sounds miserable.  I'm sure glad I work here.

[Never1AShow]

Before you start quoting Bertrand Russell, you may want to read this on why he is an evil man:

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/943a_russell_lhl.html

Also, why is pursuing knowledge any better than pursuing money?  It's all futile, dust in the wind.

[Tha Grim Lifter]

Working should be about learning and improving yourself to get better and more challenging jobs. Not a dead end job you sit in for 40 years.

The picture accompanying the lazy post is stupid, no-one is forcing you to do any of that but not actually working will get you nowhere. What, so no-one in the world will ever work? How will anything ever happen?

Every job I've done has been a progression from the last and learning more. Aside from the dead end job I did while I started a business which I did to ensure I had enough cash to live and get the business going but I didn't want a job doing anything challenging then since the business was the purpose. I also like working a lot to see how much money I can make - and I don't give a fuck about material things or looking impressive.

People who think like the OP post don't have that in them. They've had easy lives and want it forever. Lazy fucks.

[dr.chimps]

I watched a film called Sicario yesterday, part of it takes place in Juarez, Mexico.

It's impossible to bitch about life when you see what goes on there.

Lived in El Paso. Not once did I cross into Juarez. That was 20 years ago. I can't imagine it's improved.

[Radical Plato]

Before you start quoting Bertrand Russell, you may want to read this on why he is an evil man:

http://www.schillerinstitute.org/fid_91-96/943a_russell_lhl.html

Also, why is pursuing knowledge any better than pursuing money?  It's all futile, dust in the wind.

Serious, just give us the cliffsnotes, that link you posted is like a 20,000 word essay. So why was Bertrand Russell an evil man?

[YngiweRhoads]

Exactly.

If anyone wants to find out what its like to live opposite of that text, just look to your nearest black ghetto.  See how fun and "free" that kind of life is.  

Absolutely.

Lazy fucks want to let other hardworking people work and pay taxes so they can live in this society without having to contribute.

Fuck the welfare state.

[Radical Plato]

Absolutely.

Lazy fucks want to let other hardworking people work and pay taxes so they can live in this society without having to contribute.

Fuck the welfare state.

Sucker. 

[YngiweRhoads]

Sucker. 

Haha

[Voice of Doom]

If you don't want to be a wage slave then figure out a product or service the world needs and build it.  Get capital financing, build a company around it, hire people, make money, sell the company and retire.  Buy a big farm somewhere, setup solar power, have a water well and spend the rest of your life writing philosophy, music and nurturing your children and grand children.

[kh300]

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[The True Adonis]

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Does that apply if you are debt free? 

[Palumboism]

Obviously you don't know shit about Bukowski because he worked as a mailman for 4 years and as a mail clerk (extremely tough job at that time) for 11 years and did many other blue collar jobs and loved it.

No, he hated working as a mailman and hated all his other jobs too.  He wanted to be a writer.

Here is the documentary on his life "Born into This".  If you haven't seen it, I recommend everyone watch the whole thing.  Skip to 30:30 where he talks about the Post Office. 

[el numero uno]

"This is something that never gets discussed - a 9-5 job is NOT an 8 hour shift. People always say **** like "it's only 8 hours!" to try and encourage workcelling. First off, that's ridiculous because 8 hours is still a long ****ing time, but more importantly: that concept is completely false. When you have a job, your entire life revolves around it. This point needs to be stated over and over again until it's understood fully. If anyone reading this is on the fence about working full time, my advice would be to do whatever you can to avoid it, unless you absolutely 100% need to work.

 When you're a full time wageslave, things are very different. It's not like you have your life, and within that there are your relationships, your hobbies, and your job. No no no. Instead, you have your WORK, and everything else is secondary. Every action of every day will relate to work in some way. You have to wake up early to get ready for work. You have to stay alert in the work day, never slacking and CONSTANTLY paying attention. You've finished for the day and it seems like you can unwind? Guess what! You have to go to bed within a few hours, as otherwise you won't be able to function the day after! Almost every day of every week of every year is spent working. The "vacation time" you get in most countries is a joke. Even the time you do have for "recreation" will spent by you feeling drained, because you've worked like a dog ALL DAY! Suddenly, problems you worried about in the past just seem meaningless. It's like caring about a stubbed toe when you have cancer. Incel? No girlfriend? Uh... so?! That's a ****ing non-issue, wait until you have to work ALL DAY. You'll wake up every morning, wishing you could do something else. If you thought your time as a NEET browsing forums all day was boring, just wait until you have to do stuff that's even more boring but actually requires effort. As boring as being a NEET can be, at least you're actually free. At least your time is actually that, when you're a workcel you forget what free time even is.

 Probably the craziest thing is how it never really gets better. You don't get used to it, you wake up every day doing the same thing, thinking the same thoughts, feeling just as bad if not worse as you did the day before. Your work remains dull, your coworkers' radios play the same repetitive pop songs, and the minutes pass like hours. I have enough points that I could write a book on the hell of workcelling, but it makes me feel sick to even think about it.

 A lot of people on this forum say life ends at 20. If 20 is when you start working full time, then I agree 100%. I was 18 when I got my first full time job. When I look back at my life, the few months before I started work were honestly the best of my life. The day I started working full time, things changed and have never quite been the same since."

Taking a second look at this. He said a lot of people in that forum claim life ends at 20 years old.

Why? Because mommy and daddy stop paying for your stuff? What a bunch of lazy fvcks.

Where does this came from anyway? Sluthate.com?

[Army of One]

Taking a second look at this. He said a lot of people in that forum claim life ends at 20 years old.

Why? Because mommy and daddy stop paying for your stuff? What a bunch of lazy fvcks.

Where does this came from anyway? Sluthate.com?

Bb.com

[Chidoman]

Bb.com

LOL...

[NelsonMuntz]

Most people are bitching because they have some sense of delusional self entitlement and a fantasy that just because they went to college, university, trade school etc or that they stay an extra hour after work they are going to get the big bucks.

It's all about money, thats it thats all.

You know what it takes to get to the top and that does not even have guarantees. 16-18 hour days, day in day out pursuing success in whatever you are doing with passion and fire. Oh and those first years of 16-18 hour days, day in day out are usually doing tasks/jobs that you and everyone else would despise.

The most successful people I have known personally over the years ate alot of shit and gave it back to get where they are. They cleans their own fucking toilets so to speak because they couple not afford an employee to do this.

People are fucking spoiled and think anyone living an easy or relaxed life just happened to get there overnight. Unless you are born with the silver spoon or connections you gotta suffer first to get there.

I wish I had all the qualities above when I was younger instead of just a few(work ethic I had, attitude could suck at times)

Just sayin