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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #25 on: December 29, 2015, 07:47:03 AM »
How were they imposing their religious beliefs by refusing to bake them a cake. One could say that the homosexual community is imposing their beliefs on us ...its sad to me.

But.... You do realize they just wanted a cake  and nothing more ....right ?



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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #26 on: December 29, 2015, 07:47:24 AM »
I'm pretty sure buying a cake is not a right.

It would take a Constitutional Law expert but I'm guessing the 9th Amendment protects us from ourselves in cases where it's impossible to restrain the inner asshole.

Generally speaking, I feel our rights are connected.

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #27 on: December 29, 2015, 07:51:08 AM »
Homophobic is implying that you have a phobia of homosexuals. I associate with them .i have a few at work that I would consider friends  BUT I don't believe in gay marriage..so am I homophobic..absolutely not


Is only when you refuse to provide service simply because someone is gay, that you become Homophobic.


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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #28 on: December 29, 2015, 07:55:34 AM »
A thousand would have been enough... and that would have been pricey.
Why didn't the couple go to another bakery?
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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #29 on: December 29, 2015, 08:01:21 AM »
It would take a Constitutional Law expert but I'm guessing the 9th Amendment protects us from ourselves in cases where it's impossible to restrain the inner asshole.

Generally speaking, I feel our rights are connected.

The Bill of Rights, are natural rights that the government cannot take away from you. But you are correct depending on the interpretation the 9th could go a couple different ways. Now a cake has to be made by someone, therefore having or buying cake is not a natural right.
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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #30 on: December 29, 2015, 08:05:41 AM »
The Bill of Rights, are natural rights that the government cannot take away from you. But you are correct depending on the interpretation the 9th could go a couple different ways. Now a cake has to be made by someone, therefore having or buying cake is not a natural right.

The people who are abusing the system do not give a single fuck about amendment xyz - it's payback time if anybody questions their "authority". The really bad people are the enablers in the background who allow such polarization knowingly melting down society.


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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #31 on: December 29, 2015, 08:09:45 AM »
The people who are abusing the system do not give a single fuck about amendment xyz - it's payback time if anybody questions their "authority". The really bad people are the enablers in the background who allow such polarization knowingly melting down society.




You are correct and there is a reason for it, if the general populace is continually distracted and fighting among themselves, well it makes it easier for .gov to get away with unconstitutional things. At some point the USA will welcome, no demand that .gov takes away our rights for the illusion of safety
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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #32 on: December 29, 2015, 08:10:26 AM »
Whats the rationale for so much money?

Sometimes I get it, you need professional help from a therapist. But here? You lost time... Maybe a penalty but a 6 figure penalty? I'd be shocked if most businesses could weather that.

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #33 on: December 29, 2015, 08:11:03 AM »
You are correct and there is a reason for it, if the general populace is continually distracted and fighting among themselves, well it makes it easier for .gov to get away with unconstitutional things. At some point the USA will welcome, no demand that .gov takes away our rights for the illusion of safety

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #35 on: December 29, 2015, 08:14:35 AM »
Whats the rationale for so much money?

Sometimes I get it, you need professional help from a therapist. But here? You lost time... Maybe a penalty but a 6 figure penalty? I'd be shocked if most businesses could weather that.

It's a bunch of bullshit, someone trying to make a point, and a fucked up judicial system. Maybe its just me and I go to buy something and that establishment doesn't want my business, I am more than happy to spend my money elsewhere. But then again I'm not politically correct and don't get offended by nonsense....
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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #36 on: December 29, 2015, 08:23:46 AM »
Whats the rationale for so much money?

Sometimes I get it, you need professional help from a therapist. But here? You lost time... Maybe a penalty but a 6 figure penalty? I'd be shocked if most businesses could weather that.

You have to speak in a language people understand.

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2015, 08:35:34 AM »
Wish the bakery was in my town..i would go and buy something daily
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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2015, 08:42:50 AM »

Is only when you refuse to provide service simply because someone is gay, that you become Homophobic.


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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2015, 08:43:08 AM »
I agree, 30 years ago these people were properly diagnosed as maladjusted and perverted...Sick....

Exactly.  Now the mass media promotes this shit and tries to normalize it.  The younger generation is being indoctrinated/brainwashed by this garbage.  The doctors who perform these operations/treatments are an abomination to the profession.  

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #40 on: December 29, 2015, 08:51:40 AM »
I agree, 30 years ago these people were properly diagnosed as maladjusted and perverted...Sick....

Are you a flat-earther?

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #41 on: December 29, 2015, 09:57:03 AM »
Exactly.  Now the mass media promotes this shit and tries to normalize it.  The younger generation is being indoctrinated/brainwashed by this garbage.  The doctors who perform these operations/treatments are an abomination to the profession.  

Of course..look at the beta males here saying the bakery was wrong. I'm betting the are all young kids..most still living at home. It IS the norm for them
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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #42 on: December 29, 2015, 10:00:40 AM »
Whats the rationale for so much money?

Sometimes I get it, you need professional help from a therapist. But here? You lost time... Maybe a penalty but a 6 figure penalty? I'd be shocked if most businesses could weather that.

deterrent to the next small business owner

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #43 on: December 29, 2015, 10:02:54 AM »
I agree, 30 years ago these people were properly diagnosed as maladjusted and perverted...Sick....

and 40 years ago blacks had their own water fountain and 50 years ago women couldn't vote... that's how progress works... you progress

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #44 on: December 29, 2015, 10:36:28 AM »
deterrent to the next small business owner

So you think is OK for .gov to put someone out of business because of their beliefs?
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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #45 on: December 29, 2015, 10:38:43 AM »
and 40 years ago blacks had their own water fountain and 50 years ago women couldn't vote... that's how progress works... you progress

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #46 on: December 29, 2015, 10:42:05 AM »
So you think is OK for .gov to put someone out of business because of their beliefs?
when their beliefs contradict the law yes. other such examples

Muslims beating their wives
child brides
animal welfare laws that contradict ritual animal slaughterer

all legit religious beliefs that don't get to happen because they contradict the law.  

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2015, 10:44:11 AM »
when their beliefs contradict the law yes. other such examples

Muslims beating their wives
child brides
animal welfare laws that contradict ritual animal slaughterer

all legit religious beliefs that don't get to happen because they contradict the law.  

Yes because all those things are similar to not selling a cake  ::)
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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2015, 11:16:12 AM »
Yes because all those things are similar to not selling a cake  ::)

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Re: Homophobic bakery pays $135,000 to butch lesbian couple
« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2015, 11:17:36 AM »
Wish the bakery was in my town..i would go and buy something daily

Out of business now.

Also I don't even think the money went to the lesbian couple, I think it was just a fine by the state. Not an actual lawsuit.