Oppressed white farmers occupy federal building in Oregon

[240 is Back]

NOBODY is supporting these oregeon squatters anymore.

Sunday, everyone was saying how awesome they were.

Tuesday, it's crickets.  Kazan, have you changed your mind on them?

[240 is Back]

BREAKING NEWS 10pm

protesters are bringing in bulldozers and heavy equipment.  They said they need it for protection in a firefight.

how the F are they getting equipment in?   LOL 

Ah, and they said they "found a stack of keys" which is how they've been breaking into the buildings.

[240 is Back]

now we have a video of an old man... says he has warrants for his arrest... he said he will shoot and kill any federal agent that has a weapon.  (Um, they all do lol...)  He said I will not go to prison, I am prepared to shoot.

He's hiding under a tarp.  Reporters interviewing him.   It's like the biggest hillbilly protester collection I've ever seen.  No organization.  A bunch of angry people who broke into federal buildings on a saturday night, and just took over lol. 

[timfogarty]

Sometimes I wish they would just ban all guns so I could just sit back and watch the carnage and say "told you so".

Kind of like what happened in Australia.

[mr.turbo]

I would rather have this conversation with someone who wants gun control that has at least touched a gun.

You're right. The bar is exceptionally low.

turns out research on the causes of gun violence has been banned for decades in the US. 34,000 die a year but you can't study it. Makes it tough to have a proper conversation about it. unless you want to talk about why there's a ban on such research.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2015-07-02/quietly-congress-extends-ban-cdc-research-gun-violence
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/cdc-still-cant-study-causes-gun-violence-180955884/?no-ist


The National Research Council’s 2004 report Firearms and Violence, a landmark assessment of the state of knowledge in the field, put it this way: “The inadequacy of data on gun ownership and use is among the most critical barriers to a better understanding of gun violence. […] If policy makers are to have a solid empirical and research base for decisions about firearms and violence, the federal government needs to support a systematic program of data collection and research that specifically addresses that issue.”12

https://everytownresearch.org/the-congressional-ban-on-gun-violence-prevention-research/

This is why the "debates" are endless on the issue. NOBODY understands it.

[240 is Back]

Fail to see your point here Tim. Seems you get a lot of your info from the one sided extreme left rag "think progress".

Coach, do you defend these Oregon protesters in any way?

[Kwon_2]

Pages of Peace   

[mr.turbo]

I'm praying this standoff goes on for as long as possible.

It's not a matter of principle but from a strategy point of view I'm all for it.

(like supporting the trump campaign, the plane has taken off but is headed straight for the side of a mountain!)

team 40 page thread of peace

 

[The Scott]

Kind of like what happened in Australia.

For reasons known best to you (and you will doubtless reveal more of them than what you have to date) you are a miserable sod and as the old saying goes, misery enjoys company.

Near as one can tell, no one invited you to this party.

Ridiculous.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Kind of like what happened in Australia.

Yes Tim all the violence stopped after Port Arthur , well at least the gun violence , Oh wait

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_massacres_in_Australia

[Kazan]

I don't have much to say about gun control except that to make a convincing argument you'd have to prove the measures reduce the ridiculous gun related death rates in the US. It would be nice to know how they back it up. That's the more interesting conversation because when you look at the domestic terror issue, as bad as it is, it's really nothing close to gun related deaths. The US is way out there with a bunch of third world countries statistically.

Statistically you are more likely to be killed by a car than a gun in the US.

[Twaddle]

cars don't kill people , people kill people

Guns don't kill people, the bullets mostly do.   

[240 is Back]

the protesters are starting to worry.
 talking on camera about what charges they may be facing.  One has to get home soon to feed his cows.

they're less convinced they won't be charged.
Trying to reason "since I don't see any 'no trespassing' signs, they cannot charge me"

Good call, Brofessor.

[Twaddle]

the protesters are starting to worry.
 talking on camera about what charges they may be facing.  One has to get home soon to feed his cows.

they're less convinced they won't be charged.
Trying to reason "since I don't see any 'no trespassing' signs, they cannot charge me"

Good call, Brofessor.

This is some funny shit.  Where are you getting the feed? 

[Kwon_2]

This is some funny shit.  Where are you getting the feed?  

Probably from here.

[SF1900]

the protesters are starting to worry.
 talking on camera about what charges they may be facing.  One has to get home soon to feed his cows.

they're less convinced they won't be charged.
Trying to reason "since I don't see any 'no trespassing' signs, they cannot charge me"

Good call, Brofessor.

lol, "Sorry, I cant protest the government any more. I have to go home and feed my cows." 

[Kwon_2]

lol, "Sorry, I cant protest the government any more. I have to go home and feed my cows." 

Cows > All

[Yamcha]

lol, "Sorry, I cant protest the government any more. I have to go home and feed my cows." 

#cowslivesmatter

[TuHolmes]

Ok... Seriously. This has been going on for what, 4 days now?

It's just time to end this nonsense.

Does the Federal Government believe they will just starve them out?

At this point, it's time to do something.

[mr.turbo]

Statistically you are more likely to be killed by a car than a gun in the US.

here are the latest stats: 2013

Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 33,804
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7
All firearm deaths
Number of deaths: 33,636
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.6

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm (pretty close to a dead heat)

the cdc doesn't actually study gun deaths so there's no way to evaluate the effect of gun bans. It would not surprise me one bit if they don't work. Obama ordered them to look into it but nothing happened so the pressure must be from the gun lobby side....hmmm

[Kwon_2]

Stroke / Nervedamage?

[mr.turbo]

#tarpman

[Kazan]

here are the latest stats: 2013

Motor vehicle traffic deaths
Number of deaths: 33,804
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.7
All firearm deaths
Number of deaths: 33,636
Deaths per 100,000 population: 10.6

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/injury.htm (pretty close to a dead heat)

the cdc doesn't actually study gun deaths so there's no way to evaluate the effect of gun bans. It would not surprise me one bit if they don't work. Obama ordered them to look into it but nothing happened so the pressure must be from the gun lobby side....hmmm

OK so guns are no more dangerous than cars 

[dr.chimps]

For reasons known best to you (and you will doubtless reveal more of them than what you have to date) you are a miserable sod and as the old saying goes, misery enjoys company.

Near as one can tell, no one invited you to this party.

Ridiculous.

Says Getbig's Pollyanna.

[drkaje]

Ok... Seriously. This has been going on for what, 4 days now?

It's just time to end this nonsense.

Does the Federal Government believe they will just starve them out?

At this point, it's time to do something.

My opinion has changed to "freeze them out".

Whatever window existed to resolve the situation in a manner that pretended non-whites would have similar treatment has closed.

At this point, escalating to violence would only make the next group of whackos more resolute and endanger law enforcement lives. They'd also be considered martyrs by a the like-minded.