Are people that brainwashed they dont even stop and question their religion?

[Man of Steel]

Meltdown.

Totally and smashed three keyboards to boot.

[badlad]

I'm middle aged now been through the basic growing stages that most of us go through. Now have a firm sense of who I am and what I'm about. Not scared of death, pointless; but fear having no real meaning to life. And largely because that is one of those imponderables whenever I start to over think that kind of stuff I know that I just am not busy enough with my own stuff in life. Which means I take the opportunity to go outside of my comfort zone, outside of me and my life, and try to help out others as much as I can. Doesn't necessarily give me meaning to life but keeps me productively occupied and simply helping others. All I know thus far in my journey is that life is short, it's a one time ride - and it is completely up to you to make the most of it. There arfe some religious peeps who are great people - if being religious helps them and others and doesn't hurt anyone then cool. But the moment that line is crossed and it interferes or hurts others intentionally or unintentionally - then I be a god (with actual power to do something unlike all the bullshit sky fairies) and you shall incur my wrath.

[SquidVicious]

It's foolish to say that religion is for the weak of mind. All habits and beliefs that a child is conditioned to believe and accept can be difficult to shed, especially if those habits and beliefs were strongly enforced at an early age and with great consistency. It usually takes a certain degree of travel, exposure to others and a high degree of intelligence coupled with an open-mindedness to deviate from those habits and beliefs. Making fun of those who have been brainwashed is no different than making fun of the fat kid: It makes you feel better about yourself but does little to shed light on others.

[da_vinci]

I follow my religion blindly.  No questions asked.  No investigation or proactivity.

Any doubts that might enter my small mind I just suppress as hard as possible while I clinch my fists, grit my teeth and shut my eyes tight.  

After all, it's about remaining a bleating sheep following an invisible, imaginary shepherd because I'm weak, needing of a daddy and afraid of death.

You're pretty much a regular alcoholic just drunk on religious bullshit.

[SF1900]

You're pretty much a regular alcoholic just drunk on religious bullshit.

This. MOS has said that no matter what evidence arises, even if it disproves the existence of a God, he will continue to believe. How is this virtuous? To believe in a lie? This is pure brainwashing.

[Rami]

Like, I cant eat pork or ill go to hell for an eternity but if I blow up a load of people who dare not believe the same as me I go to heaven?
Also my hero liked raping 9 year old girls.
Or what about two fucking penguins walked from Antartica to the middle east to get into a big wooden boat?

Just 3of many examples.

welcome to reality

[markofan]

You can learn about false religions and cults here:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?s=75d08f6ff6f1fbc9d2d1cd5cfa36ca4a&t=114

[Man of Steel]

You're pretty much a regular alcoholic just drunk on religious bullshit.

Absolutely.   Pretty much a heroine addict high on Jesus Christ nonsense.  

[Man of Steel]

is not doubt the spiritual foundation of  faith ?

No, it's still Jesus Christ.

[Julio Ceasar]

Like, I cant eat pork or ill go to hell for an eternity but if I blow up a load of people who dare not believe the same as me I go to heaven?
Also my hero liked raping 9 year old girls.
Or what about two fucking penguins walked from Antartica to the middle east to get into a big wooden boat?

Just 3of many examples.

Thats the purpose of religion. Let go everything and start believe what someone tell you! Making life much more easy! EVery question u have , there is an answer in religion! Religion is great, without it the world would colapps bcz majority of the people would lose hope and give up!

[Man of Steel]

Thats the purpose of religion. Let go everything and start believe what someone tell you! Making life much more easy! EVery question u have , there is an answer in religion! Religion is great, without it the world would colapps bcz majority of the people would lose hope and give up!

Bingo!!  Turn your brain off....thinking is not required.  Left! Right! Left! Right!  Become a mindless drone and follow the lead of the religious "they".

Keep on marching, eyes shut, and eventually you'll reach that security blanket where death isn't real, invisible daddy loves you, myths are real and you're weakness is welcome!  

And if anyone outside that religion questions you either curse them, enslave them, kill them or all of the above.  

GOOOOOOOOOOOO RELIGION!!
























































































































































































 

  

[da_vinci]

MOS melting down like never before.

[The Ugly]

Question for Christians: Do you acknowledge you didn't necessarily choose your religion? As your parents and theirs before them (and so on) didn't choose theirs? As kids, anyway, when it becomes engrained and much more difficult to change allegiance.

So, can we further acknowledge Constantine the Great pretty much decided centuries ago who the West would worship?

[Coffeed]

Religion makes more sense than IFBB judging yet we all blindly go along with that.

[Man of Steel]

MOS melting down like never before.

Yep, like a nuclear reactor.

[Radical Plato]

Gotta love Christopher Hitchens.  R.I.P.

[Radical Plato]

[King Shizzo]

Translation:  I answered all his unanswerable questions and called him out on the angle he was working and told him I was now "meh".

He then resorted to claiming meltdown which I deleted and told him I deleted.   He wanted more of me so I still provided a couple more lengthy respones all immediately followed up with his replies beginning with things like "nonsense" and "can't believe you'd resort to that".  So I told him I was through.  SF came along with his pom-poms and gas can to do his normal troll bit in between....didn't really read any of it.  Both basically said I was defeated and butthurt.  I showed them in scripture how they can't discern things of the spirit.  They're now mocking that.

Demented stuff.    

MOS, you know I like you, but deleting people's posts should only be a last resort, and only if it is violating rules.

Trolling or saying "meltdown" hardly qualifies imo.

[Man of Steel]

Question for Christians: Do you acknowledge you didn't necessarily choose your religion? As your parents and theirs before them (and so on) didn't choose theirs? As kids, anyway, when it becomes engrained and much more difficult to change allegiance.

So, can we further acknowledge Constantine the Great pretty much decided centuries ago who the West would worship?

I was raised in a Christian home and was fully brainwashed influenced by my family.

In my 20s I walked away from that influence and faith.  At 35 was the first time I truly began to believe and live out my faith.

Not sure what you mean regarding Constantine.  Need a bit of clarification if you don't mind.

[da_vinci]

That's nothing lol, you should see him going apeshit in the religion board. He went absolutely fucking psycho on me for no reason!

It must be very uncomfortable when someone makes you doubt your deep rooted beliefes that enable you to stay in that "buzzed" state. Have you ever seen a drug addict being restricted of his fix? Similar thing.

[phreak]

I was raised in a Christian home and was fully brainwashed influenced by my family.

In my 20s I walked away from that influence and faith.  At 35 was the first time I truly began to believe and live out my faith.

Not sure what you mean regarding Constantine.  Need a bit of clarification if you don't mind.

Come on... I had you pegged as gullible, but certainly not stupid or ill informed. Constantine the Great was the Roman emperor who stopped the persecution of christians. In a hypothetical where all other things would have been equal, you would have been born into a pagan religion, most likely celtic. And you would have been just as staunch in your faith as you are now. How do you reconcile that? Apart from claiming you would have discovered the 'real' truth by yourself, going against everything you have ever known and been indoctrinated in by family, school etc., and even though christianity in that hypothetical history may very well have been wiped out or be radically different from what we know today.

[da_vinci]

I was raised in a Christian home and was fully brainwashed influenced by my family.

In my 20s I walked away from that influence and faith.  At 35 was the first time I truly began to believe and live out my faith.

Not sure what you mean regarding Constantine.  Need a bit of clarification if you don't mind.

What exactly did happen at 35 that made you feel desperate and weak, scared/etc? Or was it a gradual process of feeling weaker and weaker/not being able to deal with lifes challenges until a point where you had to make a choice - a suicide/alcoholism or indulging into a religion to feel at ease a bit?

[Man of Steel]

Come on... I had you pegged as gullible, but certainly not stupid or ill informed. Constantine the Great was the Roman emperor who stopped the persecution of christians. In a hypothetical where all other things would have been equal, you would have been born into a pagan religion, most likely celtic. And you would have been just as staunch in your faith as you are now. How do you reconcile that? Apart from claiming you would have discovered the 'real' truth by yourself, going against everything you have ever known and been indoctrinated in by family, school etc., and even though christianity in that hypothetical history may very well have been wiped out or be radically different from what we know today.

I fully understand the claim that "you were born here so that's why you're a [insert whatever]."  

I completely understand who Constantine is and the history therein.  

I was asking for Ugly to clarify what he meant....expound just a bit.  Didn't know if he had a specific point or if it was more general.

[phreak]

What exactly did happen at 35 that made you feel desperate and weak, scared/etc? Or was it a gradual process of feeling weaker and weaker/not being able to deal with lifes challenges until a point where you had to make a choice - a suicide/alcoholism or indulging into a religion to feel at ease a bit?

I'm guessing it is the second option. That seems to be the case with a lot of people around me. They feel strong and self-reliant in their late teens and early twenties, then slowly the self doubt and depression set in once they take on responsibilities. With the obvious and much-touted question being a variant on "is this really all there is to life/being/etc.?". In short: realisation of their own mortality and futility.

[phreak]

I fully understand the claim that "you were born here so that's why you're a [insert whatever]." 

I completely understand who Constantine is.  I was asking for Ugly to clarify what he meant....expound just a bit.  Didn't know if he had a specific point or if it was more general.

So you just want to avoid answering. Then just say that.