How many naturals bench over 4 plates with good form?

[rocket]

I am natural and have over 4000 posts.

So naturally I can bench over 4 plates.

[onlyme]

I did 585 at 290 in 86'.  Hall of Fame photographer Gene Mozee took the photo below for M&F that never made it.  That is 550.  In 95 or so, I did 405 for 21 but really 23, they didn't count two.  I did a 505 incline almost 10 years (around 95') after doing the bench and almost 10 years after my last shot of Test.  I did 6 months straight of test cypionate 200mg for 6 months, 1cc a day.  At 247 I did 500 drug free in 1980 with Joe Gold spotting.

Right now I can do 315 for 12 on a good day.  I feel like a girl.  I am afriad to try 405.  I told my workout partner by the end of this month we shoud be doing it, but I'm not sure.  I don't like to struggle with weight so I may wait till I can do 315 for an easy 15 or so.  It is very embarrasing right now considering I am so much heavier yet weaker.

And Alexx if you can only do 315 for 2, then you are a long way from 405.  But, in your terms I'll be doing 800. 

[alexxx]

Within a year I will be benching 405 naturally.

[brianX]

monster shoulder blades

[alexxx]

Come on Alex, the USA had a little say in the outcome of WWII.

Please it was the Russians who defeated those vermits and you know it!

[GreatFinn]

Please it was the Russians who defeated those vermits and you know it!

It is clear to me that you have a russian education, based on propaganda and good old lying. Therefore you don't have any real information about WWII, only that shit which they have use to brainwash your little little brains. I have met many people like you from countries which were part of CCCP, and like you, they have just a same totally wrong point of view to that matter.  So why don't you pop that head of yours out from your ass, and read some real history books. Here in the west we hold them in the public library, and you can choose from wide variety of history books. Not just some "Glorified Soviet history for uneducated morons" or other propaganda books like that. And yes, I am from Finland and I have done some studies about history of WWII so shut the fuck up and lift those ridiculous weights of yours...   

[Parker]

Within a year I will be benching 405 naturally.

And look like a cross between Arnold and Flex, huh.

[monster triceps]

It is clear to me that you have a russian education, based on propaganda and good old lying. Therefore you don't have any real information about WWII, only that shit which they have use to brainwash your little little brains. I have met many people like you from countries which were part of CCCP, and like you, they have just a same totally wrong point of view to that matter.  So why don't you pop that head of yours out from your ass, and read some real history books. Here in the west we hold them in the public library, and you can choose from wide variety of history books. Not just some "Glorified Soviet history for uneducated morons" or other propaganda books like that. And yes, I am from Finland and I have done some studies about history of WWII so shut the f**k up and lift those ridiculous weights of yours...   

I am also from Finland and it was the Soviets who steamrolled the Nazis, UK and USA were struggling to get to Rhine.

[Johnny Apollo]

The Nazi's invaded Russia without a problem and stayed there for months. The only problem came when Hitler had to overstretch his army to deal with the English and the Americans. In reality if America hadn't butted in..Hitler would of Occupied Russia without a hitch. Hitler was fighting Russia and England with ease until America joined in.
Russia lost over 20 million people..Germany only lost about 6 million.

[chris_mason]

Here is the real deal:

Only a small percentage of truly natural lifters will bench press over 400 lbs raw using good form.  The percentage that can do over 500 lbs is ridiculously low. 

So, if you see someone benching that much weight it is highly likely they are anabolic users but possible they are clean.

[phyxsius]

I used to bench around 6-7 plates on each side with the bodyweight of 135 lbs. No drugs. 100% Natural

[Johnny Apollo]

My max is 12 plates...6 on each side.

[Prime]

Please it was the Russians who defeated those vermits and you know it!

russian weather saved you guys from getting thrashed.
It was actually the americans, british, french, australians, indians, russian etc etc together who beat the nazis.

[bmacsys]

The Nazi's invaded Russia without a problem and stayed there for months. The only problem came when Hitler had to overstretch his army to deal with the English and the Americans. In reality if America hadn't butted in..Hitler would of Occupied Russia without a hitch. Hitler was fighting Russia and England with ease until America joined in.
Russia lost over 20 million people..Germany only lost about 6 million.

America shipped so much machinery, arms and ammunition to Russia during the war it can't even be calculated. True the Russians lost so much blood during the war but the would have surely been Hitlers Liebensram "living space" if it wasn't for the USA and Britain.

[brianX]

The Nazi's invaded Russia without a problem and stayed there for months. The only problem came when Hitler had to overstretch his army to deal with the English and the Americans. In reality if America hadn't butted in..Hitler would of Occupied Russia without a hitch. Hitler was fighting Russia and England with ease until America joined in.
Russia lost over 20 million people..Germany only lost about 6 million.

Nonsense. The war had already turned decisively in the Russians' favor before the US got involved in Europe. The Germans were defeated near Moscow in 1942 when Stalin called in reinforcements from the east. The Battle of Stalingrad and the Battle of Kursk were over in 1943. Hitler himself said that the war was lost at Stalingrad. The Russians were already near Poland by 1944.

The Battle of Britain was over before the Germans even invaded the Soviet Union. Fewer than a million uniformed troops were killed on the Western Front in WWII. Well over 90% of the fighting occurred on the Eastern Front. These are indisputable facts.

[alexxx]

Nonsense. The war had already turned decisively in the Russians' favor before the US got involved in Europe. The Germans were defeated near Moscow in 1942 when Stalin called in reinforcements from the east. The Battle of Stalingrad and the Battle of Kursk were over in 1943. Hitler himself said that the war was lost at Stalingrad. The Russians were already near Poland by 1944.

The Battle of Britain was over before the Germans even invaded the Soviet Union. Fewer than a million uniformed troops were killed on the Western Front in WWII. Well over 90% of the fighting occurred on the Eastern Front. These are indisputable facts.

Thank you BrianX for once! Everybody else... OWNED!

[HERACLES]

Not me, not in this lifetime..I wish...

I didnt know dexter cant bench 405? 

ANd haney used that as his max?

Interesting...

[sarcasm]

Haney's arms were only 17 inches so it's a wonder he could bench that much.

[monster triceps]

Haney's arms were only 17 inches

 

[alexxx]

Sarcasm once measured his torso to Haney's arms and lost. So now he is better for life.

[bmacsys]

Nonsense. The war had already turned decisively in the Russians' favor before the US got involved in Europe. The Germans were defeated near Moscow in 1942 when Stalin called in reinforcements from the east. The Battle of Stalingrad and the Battle of Kursk were over in 1943. Hitler himself said that the war was lost at Stalingrad. The Russians were already near Poland by 1944.

The Battle of Britain was over before the Germans even invaded the Soviet Union. Fewer than a million uniformed troops were killed on the Western Front in WWII. Well over 90% of the fighting occurred on the Eastern Front. These are indisputable facts.

OK, but the Germans were at the gates of Moscow in 1941. Winter hit. Both sides just basically sat out the winter. The United States supplied the Soviet Union with literally thousands of ship convoys worth of arms, fuel, machinery, technical experts, you name it to Archangel and Murmansk from 1939 on. Starting Dec, 7 1941 after Pearl Harbor when the Germans idiotically declared war on the USA is when the tide turned and Adolph Hitler and the Riech were doomed. British Lancasters and American B17's and started pounding German war machine factories and destroyed the Luftwaffa. Without this there would have been no Russian counter offensive in early 1942. American capitol and unmatched manufacturing capability in the Allies favor is what won the war. The Russians were doomed if the USA had not entered the war. The Germans would have destroyed Russia and made peace with the USA and Britain. Plain and simple. The Russians DID supply an overwhelming amount of manpower and once supplied by American manufacturing thus arming the huge Russian armies that did overwhelm the Nazi's in the east. But if not for the western allies the germans would have owned Eastern Europe lock, stock and barrel. Remember, the German's were treated as liberators in Russia until the SS came in and started slaughtering civilians by the thousands.

[buffbodz]

I was in Atlanta a few years ago.  I found a gym and who was training legs but Vince Taylor.  He asked me if he could work in.  Sure, as I was expecting him to add more plates to the 10 I had on each side.  Instead he removed 4 from each side and did 12-15 slow deliberate reps and didn't add anymore plates than 8.  I was kinda supprised with the development his legs have, but he told me that's all he needs to stimulate growth and he hurts his ankles when he goes too heavy.  I was expecting like 20 plates a side and 2 gymrats to add extra, but no, just 6,7 and 8 for 3 sets.  I watched him on the Hack squat machine and his max was only 2 per side.  I guess with superior genetics you don't need to train like an animal.

[sarcasm]

I was in Atlanta a few years ago.  I found a gym and who was training legs but Vince Taylor.  He asked me if he could work in.  Sure, as I was expecting him to add more plates to the 10 I had on each side.  Instead he removed 4 from each side and did 12-15 slow deliberate reps and didn't add anymore plates than 8.  I was kinda supprised with the development his legs have, but he told me that's all he needs to stimulate growth and he hurts his ankles when he goes too heavy.  I was expecting like 20 plates a side and 2 gymrats to add extra, but no, just 6,7 and 8 for 3 sets.  I watched him on the Hack squat machine and his max was only 2 per side.  I guess with superior genetics you don't need to train like an animal.

nice story, "buffbodz", hahaha.

[Childish///AMG]

The most I ever benched was "370" and 345 in competition when I was stationed in Korea.
Nagging shoulder and other things have me at a solid 335 at 194 pounds. If I ever get 405
life will be nice

[GreatFinn]

I am also from Finland and it was the Soviets who steamrolled the Nazis, UK and USA were struggling to get to Rhine.

Don't blame me, if your knowledge of history is based on video games. Truth is that didn't go like you see in the "Call Of Duty", and yes, you have prove that there is ignorant fools in Finland also