Re: having kids....

[Grape Ape]

NOBODY gets married with the "intention" of it ending in divorce.
But, (trust me on this  , they often do.

The infamous 50% divorce rate is complied by dividing   divorces filed / new marriages  per county in the US.
In other words of  50 divorce decrees were issued in a county that performed 100 new marriages, the rate is figured as 50/100 or 50% divorce.

This is basic statistics, and may not apply to all individual situations.

While I appreciate the 5th grade math lesson, I'm asking for a link that supports his 60% claim.

[Howard]

Usually those who say to stay out of relationships, not get married, and not have kids, are those who picked the wrong woman or suck themselves.

Right, if you are dysfunctional in maintain a relationship with women or are so self-absorbed that you suck at raising kids, then don't have them! The rest just bitch because they got unlucky with a basket case woman or thought they would get their precious beauty sleep and not have their individual joys not infringed upon--kind of like still living single--when they had kids. So they tell everyone else not to.

Then if one to profess that they actually love their wife, in-laws, and kids and enjoy being married there are the old and tired cliches for them, "You'll see: you're kids are gonna hate you and your wife is gonna cheat on you. How ya gonna save money? They're so expensive."

Good post. BUT there is a huge difference between getting married and having kids.

1. If a marriage fails, both adults can split and dissolve the relationship for good on reasonable terms.
Keep your head and agree to split , then file. You leave , free and clear .

2. With children, it's not so easy. The father is legally responsible for the children. This means you will be child support/and possibly alimony to a bitter, disgruntled spouse for 10-15 years.
This is the risk you take if you have kids.

Plus, be prepared for sleepless nights when they're babies and never having your own life with your wife.

[Howard]

While I appreciate the 5th grade math lesson, I'm asking for a link that supports his 60% claim.

LOL, I could give some detailed linear regression analysis but this is getbig, c'mon LOL

[Donny]

I would like to know if any of you Americanos have a sister i can impregnate pass my Scottish seed on..my gift to the US.

[Grape Ape]

LOL, I could give some detailed linear regression analysis but this is getbig, c'mon LOL

So could I.

If you want to talk linear weights, predictive statistical modeling in baseball, etc feel free to visit the sports forum and make a case.

But that's off topic.

People throw around a lot of statements that are largely accepted here as truths, but never proven. "Most" marriages end in divorce..."Most" have kids....50%, now 60%....etc...i finally decided to take a quick look.  I didn't see that.  I saw a bunch of stuff talking about those stats being exaggerated.

[Howard]

I would like to know if any of you Americanos have a sister i can impregnate pass my Scottish seed on..my gift to the US.

Hmmm, she died 4 yrs ago and was cremated. I guess my sis is out of the running for your stud service 

BUT, I'm still available for semen donations.

[Howard]

So could I.

If you want to talk linear weights, predictive statistical modeling in baseball, etc feel free to visit the sports forum and make a case.

But that's off topic.

People throw around a lot of statements that are largely accepted here as truths, but never proven. "Most" marriages end in divorce..."Most" have kids....50%, now 60%....etc...i finally decided to take a quick look.  I didn't see that.  I saw a bunch of stuff talking about those stats being exaggerated.

Exactly!

I can tell ya from experience that most people are ignorant about applied math and how statistics are calculated.
For example , let's say the avg family has 3.3 kids, what the fuk does that really mean?

0.3 of a person doesn't exist, so it really means 30%
30% will have 4 ( or more) kids,  70% will have 3 ( or less) kids.

[OB1]

let's say the avg family has 3.3 kids, what the fuk does that really mean?

easy.
3 kids and a 3 month old embryo.
will be full kid in 6 months time.

[Donny]

Hmmm, she died 4 yrs ago and was cremated. I guess my sis is out of the running for your stud service 

BUT, I'm still available for semen donations.

Thanks for the offer Howie .. i am touched by your camaraderie but i´ll pass   ask Dropping plates he will take your load  

[Howard]

easy.
3 kids and a 3 month old embryo.
will be full kid in 6 months time.

This is why I love getbig. 

[Howard]

Thanks for the offer Howie .. i am touched by your camaraderie but i´ll pass   ask Dropping plates he will take your load  

My getbig status sucks so bad, that my offer to suck...just plain sucks 

[Donny]

My getbig status sucks so bad, that my offer to suck...just plain sucks 

Talking of sucking.. i have a little rendezvous with a woman tomorrow and when she gives head she grinds with her Teeth    has a beautiful tight pussy though.  Reminds me of a friend who told me he was fucking a woman who had stretch marks on her belly(fully normal after children)  so he said i just do her doggy so i don´t see them 

[BBSSchlemiel]

Good post. BUT there is a huge difference between getting married and having kids.

1. If a marriage fails, both adults can split and dissolve the relationship for good on reasonable terms.
Keep your head and agree to split , then file. You leave , free and clear .

2. With children, it's not so easy. The father is legally responsible for the children. This means you will be child support/and possibly alimony to a bitter, disgruntled spouse for 10-15 years.
This is the risk you take if you have kids.

Plus, be prepared for sleepless nights when they're babies and never having your own life with your wife.

That's right! Grown men with responsibilities to others do not have "their own life". The whole concept of "own life" are for those who should remain single and do as they damn please! Once you establish strong connections with other human beings, there is no "own life" as a relationship, even a close friendship, is a two-way concept. Same goes for taking care of older relatives. If one wants their own life, then he can go to a remote island. My wife is part of my life. And so will my future kids. It will be OUR lives.

[OB1]

This is why I love getbig. 

 

[da_vinci]

That's right! Grown men with responsibilities to others do not have "their own life". The whole concept of "own life" are for those who should remain single and do as they damn please! Once you establish strong connections with other human beings, there is no "own life" as a relationship, even a close friendship, is a two-way concept. Same goes for taking care of older relatives. If one wants their own life, then he can go to a remote island. My wife is part of my life. And so will my future kids. It will be OUR lives.

Translation: I'm tired, bitter and desperate. Must be all that chore from a "family life".

[Howard]

That's right! Grown men with responsibilities to others do not have "their own life". The whole concept of "own life" are for those who should remain single and do as they damn please! Once you establish strong connections with other human beings, there is no "own life" as a relationship, even a close friendship, is a two-way concept. Same goes for taking care of older relatives. If one wants their own life, then he can go to a remote island. My wife is part of my life. And so will my future kids. It will be OUR lives.

Ok?

Obviously, plenty of good men, love being devoted fathers.
BUT, selfless , genuine LOVE can take different forms as you pointed out.

Believe it or not, I recently spent 2 weeks at my mother's side as she faded away from this earth.
It wasn't fun, but it was one of the most meaningful experiences of my life.

My wife and I were there at her time of need out of love , pure and simple.
Nobody made me do it and I felt honored to be the one she wanted at her side during this time.
I don't need a medal  or pat on the back to make me feel good about my actions.
I wanted to do it, so with my Mom's blessing , I did. That's all that matters in my book.


If someone wants to raise kids and loves doing it, that's great.
What bugs me, is how some act "morally superior" to childless by choice couples ( like me/wife).

[Howard]

Translation: I'm tired, bitter and desperate. Must be all that chore from a "family life".

Yup! I detest the holier then thou, "you're selfish " if won't sacrifice for kids and family , attitude.

C'mon, if you love you life, and feel good about it, that's wonderful.
But why do some feel the need to put down those that took a less stressful path?

I can't read their minds, but it reeks of being jealous and bitter?

[da_vinci]

Yup! I detest the holier then thou, "you're selfish " if won't sacrifice for kids and family , attitude.

C'mon, if you love you life, and feel good about it, that's wonderful.
But why do some feel the need to put down those that took a less stressful path?

I can't read their minds, but it reeks of being jealous and bitter?

Exactly that.
  There are really happy ppl with families, rare case (and that is sad, I'm not happy about this fact of life at all. It'd be nice if life would be according to how people WANT it to be, and not how it usualy ends up), but I know a few. You'd never hear anything like that from them, they are lucky and just doing their thing. And I'm talking about males in this case, guys who were really suited for that kind of life. Not very bright, not very analytical, just good hearted fellas who love to come back from work and spend time with their kids (as not much other interests they have anyway). These are usualy the very good, loving and sacrificing parents, I like seeing that, I know that I'm simply not that kind of a person, but it's good, it'd be boring if everyone were the same.

[BBSSchlemiel]

Ok?

Obviously, plenty of good men, love being devoted fathers.
BUT, selfless , genuine LOVE can take different forms as you pointed out.

Believe it or not, I recently spent 2 weeks at my mother's side as she faded away from this earth.
It wasn't fun, but it was one of the most meaningful experiences of my life.

My wife and I were there at her time of need out of love , pure and simple.
Nobody made me do it and I felt honored to be the one she wanted at her side during this time.
I don't need a medal  or pat on the back to make me feel good about my actions.
I wanted to do it, so with my Mom's blessing , I did. That's all that matters in my book.


If someone wants to raise kids and loves doing it, that's great.
What bugs me, is how some act "morally superior" to childless by choice couples ( like me/wife).

I'll take this.

I don't think there's anything wrong with couples who do not want kids, nor do I think I will be holier than the next guy when I have kids.

What I do find asinine is the whole concept of "not having one's own life" when one does have kids. It's like, "Duh, no shit--I will have to give up quite a bit when I have kids." That's life.

[BBSSchlemiel]

....as not much other interests they have anyway..

Oh really now?

[da_vinci]

Oh really now?

If you are a good parent - not much time for other activities, well unless you are filthy rich and don't have to work much. That's my personal and subjective observation, I MAY be completely wrong. But I don't put that as a negative thing anyway, some people are naturally like that and they usualy make great parents.

[Howard]

Exactly that.
  There are really happy ppl with families, rare case (and that is sad, I'm not happy about this fact of life at all. It'd be nice if life would be according to how people WANT it to be, and not how it usualy ends up), but I know a few. You'd never hear anything like that from them, they are lucky and just doing their thing. And I'm talking about males in this case, guys who were really suited for that kind of life. Not very bright, not very analytical, just good hearted fellas who love to come back from work and spend time with their kids (as not much other interests they have anyway). These are usualy the very good, loving and sacrificing parents, I like seeing that, I know that I'm simply not that kind of a person, but it's good, it'd be boring if everyone were the same.

Good, thoughtful post.

I get annoyed by bitter mom's acting like you must help them , just because they had kids.


In a BB related idea, it chaps my ass when some meathead says they are competing for some higher purpose.
I've seen countless bikini bimbos with various heroic statements ,emblazoned  on their gym attire  

Sorry sweety, it's not a courageous , heroic act to train/ diet , so your ass and thighs to look good.

[Grape Ape]

Exactly that.
  There are really happy ppl with families, rare case (and that is sad, I'm not happy about this fact of life at all. It'd be nice if life would be according to how people WANT it to be, and not how it usualy ends up), but I know a few. You'd never hear anything like that from them, they are lucky and just doing their thing. And I'm talking about males in this case, guys who were really suited for that kind of life. Not very bright, not very analytical, just good hearted fellas who love to come back from work and spend time with their kids (as not much other interests they have anyway). These are usualy the very good, loving and sacrificing parents, I like seeing that, I know that I'm simply not that kind of a person, but it's good, it'd be boring if everyone were the same.

Because you know a few like this it must be true for most, right?

And Howard is agreeing  with you lockstep,  so draw your own conclusions from that.

[Howard]

I'll take this.

I don't think there's anything wrong with couples who do not want kids, nor do I think I will be holier than the next guy when I have kids.

What I do find asinine is the whole concept of "not having one's own life" when one does have kids. It's like, "Duh, no shit--I will have to give up quite a bit when I have kids." That's life.

Yes, that's true but it's a lifestyle you and your wife are CHOOSING to make.
If it works for you ,great.

Just remember others may make different choices that work for them.

[da_vinci]

Good, thoughtful post.

I get annoyed by bitter mom's acting like you must help them , just because they had kids.


In a BB related idea, it chaps my ass when some meathead says they are competing for some higher purpose.
I've seen countless bikini bimbos with various heroic statements ,emblazoned  on their gym attire  

Sorry sweety, it's not a courageous , heroic act to train/ diet , so your ass and thighs to look good.

True on both points. "Going to the war"and stuff - lol... what a fukkin joke. I haven't posted a single such shit after years and years of training, even tho' I could post selfies with my own quotes all day long as I've really developed a pretty awesome physique, but that's just stupid.
 Regarding moms - I personally know one very nice female who's like 55 now. Her son has two kids and his wife is nagging the said woman that she should spend less time "for fun" (she deserved to have fun big time) and help to watch their kids instead. It boils my blood, ffs, who have asked to have these kids if you can't take care of them in the first place??