Pegida to march in Dublin - Saturday, Feb 6th - it starts here

[BigRo]

So what's the answer brother? If you aren't willing to get vocal for something? In the US, "racist" was wielded as an effective weapon. But it became overused and debased. Now, I get called a racist daily and it has zero effect on my life.

If western civilization is worth fighting for, it's certainly worth the risk of "being labeled"

Plus, Pegida could probably use an impressive mountain of muscle (no homo) such as yourself. Heck, they appear to already have Dave. Bring some chicks into the light.

Marches are ok however there needs to be more intelligent critics debating in public and through books and discourses people the public will not immediately call racist without listening to their well thought out argument which has an element of compassion and humanity in it also.

[_aj_]

Marches are ok however there needs to be more intelligent critics debating in public and through books and discourses people the public will not immediately call racist without listening to their well thought out argument which has an element of compassion and humanity in it also.

How much time do you think you have? At the current level of EU "assimilation", you probably have less than 3 years.

[Griffith]

Will probably be branded as racist 

[Donny]

Good luck.  People in the West have to stand up for their right not to be invaded by middle easterner migrants and their right to preserve their culture.  Key is not to appear too radical and right wing so as to be labelled as a radical fringe group, have to get regular people on your side.  

good post

[Donny]

Marches are ok however there needs to be more intelligent critics debating in public and through books and discourses people the public will not immediately call racist without listening to their well thought out argument which has an element of compassion and humanity in it also.

I agree with you on this as well because you need to get through to many young people, who are generally more Educated than previous generations. -aj- wrote how much time do you have? i think this is a long term problem and not just 3 years. Talking 30 years and you will know the real damage.

[local hero]

Once those families settle and have kids born in the adopted countries there's no going back, unless an extreme far right gov ever gets in

[Donny]

Once those families settle and have kids born in the adopted countries there's no going back, unless an extreme far right gov ever gets in

exactly ... the seeds are planted

[_aj_]

exactly ... the seeds are planted

Sounds like Europe is pre-fucked.

[drkaje]

Sounds like Europe is pre-fucked.

They are.

I just hope we learn from the mistake.

[shootfighter1]

Understood Walter but the appearance of being too radical gives the media ammo to delegitimize the movement & make your movement irrelevant and appear racist to the average person.  The ultimate point is to win and get the desired response/change in policy.  Going to have to project frustration and protection, not hate and bigotry.  Hard to do with a liberal media.
Yes, DrKaje, agree.  

[Walter Sobchak]

Understood Walter but the appearance of being too radical gives the media ammo to delegitimize the movement & make your movement irrelevant and appear racist to the average person.  The ultimate point is to win and get the desired response/change in policy.  Going to have to project frustration and protection, not hate and bigotry.  Hard to do with a liberal media.
Yes, DrKaje, agree.  

So the people protecting their culture and way of life will be delegitimized by the media, but the third-world murdering goatfuckers aren't seen as "too radical" by the media?

Time to take care of the media. The time to stop being worried about being called racist is at hand. The word has lost all of its meaning now anyway.

In 10 years you will have a towel-headed child molestor as the Prime Minister of Great Britain

[drkaje]

Understood Walter but the appearance of being too radical gives the media ammo to delegitimize the movement & make your movement irrelevant and appear racist to the average person.  The ultimate point is to win and get the desired response/change in policy.  Going to have to project frustration and protection, not hate and bigotry.  Hard to do with a liberal media.
Yes, DrKaje, agree.  

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the same people supporting Pegida just happen to be GetBig's most consistently racist posters?

[shootfighter1]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the same people supporting Pegida just happen to be GetBig's most consistently racist posters?

I have been absent for a while so don't know some of the posters.  In general, they have a right to protect their country from a massive influx of low skilled migrants, many of who don't want to assimilate, same with us.  Not a color issue IMO.  I think you agree.

[Donny]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the same people supporting Pegida just happen to be GetBig's most consistently racist posters?

where do you live? are you directly effected by the immigrants? I see them every Day here and i see what is going on. Am i a Racist i do not think so. You live with this problem on a Daily basis then you know..easy to talk about it in a safe corner.

[Donny]

Where relatives of mine live, Houses have been broken into and a Doctors surgery there too. This just happens to be in an area where they are housed in an old Camp ( Bundeswehr). I go running in that area and i see every time Ambulance and police with flashing lights going there.

[drkaje]

where do you live? are you directly effected by the immigrants? I see them every Day here and i see what is going on. Am i a Racist i do not think so. You live with this problem on a Daily basis then you know..easy to talk about it in a safe corner.

Our town has a lot of Bosnian, Serbian, Thai, Somalian, Hmong, etc... refugees.

In terms of being affected by refugees? Yes. Just not in a way I'd like to articulate because it could end up having professional ramifications.

My point is things will have to get far worse in Europe before US public opinion is swayed to a point where immigration changes are political reality.

[bigmc]

where do you live? are you directly effected by the immigrants? I see them every Day here and i see what is going on. Am i a Racist i do not think so. You live with this problem on a Daily basis then you know..easy to talk about it in a safe corner.

you are an immigrant in germany you panty sniffing ball juggler

do you think they want deviant sex pests like you in the neighbourhood

[Donny]

you are an immigrant in germany you panty sniffing ball juggler

do you think they want deviant sex pests like you in the neighbourhood

You do have a way with words when you are angry

[mr.turbo]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that the same people supporting Pegida just happen to be GetBig's most consistently racist posters?

The irony is the Irish love to flee their homeland when times get tough to the tune of 80 million expats.  

A comprehensive solution would repatriate Irish nationals who have fled in order that they may be utilized in lieu of the cheaply paid foreigners.

sombody needs to work at cutting lawns, digging holes, roofing and so on.  

[Tapeworm]

The irony is the Irish love to flee their homeland when times get tough to the tune of 80 million expats.  

A comprehensive solution would repatriate Irish nationals who have fled in order that they may be utilized in lieu of the cheaply paid foreigners.

sombody needs to work at cutting lawns, digging holes, roofing and so on.  

Mock not the trades lest the rain falleth upon thy head in thine living room. 

[illuminati]

So the people protecting their culture and way of life will be delegitimized by the media, but the third-world murdering goatfuckers aren't seen as "too radical" by the media?

Time to take care of the media. The time to stop being worried about being called racist is at hand. The word has lost all of its meaning now anyway.

In 10 years you will have a towel-headed child molester as the Prime Minister of Great Britain

A worrying possible reality.
Good on the Irish for standing up & say enough.
Enough with the muslim invasion.
let them go to other muslim based countries
where they will be able to integrate far easier.
Without expecting the new country to change their
ways to accommodate them.

[Walter Sobchak]

A worrying possible reality.
Good on the Irish for standing up & say enough.
Enough with the muslim invasion.
let them go to other muslim based countries
where they will be able to integrate far easier.
Without expecting the new country to change their
ways to accommodate them.

How many "Syrian" or "North African" refugees did Japan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE take in?

[illuminati]

How many "Syrian" or "North African" refugees did Japan, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE take in?

Not Very many -- They not that Stupid.

[Tapeworm]

To be fair, the Irish are a unique race.  The befreckled male is easily identified by his principle attributes of inebriated languor and ceaseless lamentation.  The female, although volatile, is easily induced to amorous coupling in any location, private or public, by a spare ration of soda bread.  How the island's inhabitants sustain themselves for so many decades following the departure of their teeth in the 25th year of life remains unknown.  Intellect: Mongoloid.  Frugality: Yiddish.  Genitals: Asiatic.

[mr.turbo]

Mock not the trades lest the rain falleth upon thy head in thine living room. 

Point taken

As a person who climbs upon his own roof, digs his own holes etc.

I feel entitled to poke a bit of fun.