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« Reply #150 on: March 20, 2006, 01:19:46 PM »
Would you feel the same way if 90% of the population believed in 3-titted women, constantly talked about 3-titted women even in venues and circumstances that have nothing to do with 3-titted women, made the existance of three-titted womes a major focus or their lives to the point of spending countless time and money in the worship of 3-titted women, drafted much of our nation's laws (laws you are expected to follow to) based on what the 3-titted woman would want, and constantly got on your case because you don't believe in 3-titted women?

 ::)

 Excellent point. People think that atheists who talk constantly how they don't believe in god, must actually believe in god. What does that say about the people who always talk about how they believe in god?

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« Reply #151 on: March 20, 2006, 02:14:19 PM »
I see so many bro's come into where I work out full of attitude and cockiness and they forget the real reason why we all started lifting. I'm talking about GOD, the big man, the creator. All things are possible through GOD. If I knew anything about the Bible I could quote something but seriously we need to focus on what bodybuilding is really about. You can want to look good and maybe pull some girls but when you line up for some deep squats (maybe 225x10?) your going to need a guy like God to back you up incase you crush yourself.

Who's with me on this?

  God has never helped me at the end of a bech press set, when I can't put the bar back in the rack. If it were up to God, if I depended on his help, I'd be crushed by the bar.

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« Reply #152 on: March 20, 2006, 06:35:30 PM »
I see so many bro's come into where I work out full of attitude and cockiness and they forget the real reason why we all started lifting. I'm talking about GOD, the big man, the creator. All things are possible through GOD. If I knew anything about the Bible I could quote something but seriously we need to focus on what bodybuilding is really about. You can want to look good and maybe pull some girls but when you line up for some deep squats (maybe 225x10?) your going to need a guy like God to back you up incase you crush yourself.

Who's with me on this?

If it makes you give all you've got up against the iron, then you go boy! Amen brotha! More power to ya! I won't slight you for it, in fact I'll give you a spot and yell some encouragement at ya!

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« Reply #153 on: March 20, 2006, 08:14:43 PM »
In the next few decades christianity will have to go through some sort of reformation cause atm the views are so far past a logical person's thinking.

You'd think so, huh?

Fortunately for Christianity (unfortunately for humanity), there are more than enough st00pid people incapable of logical thinking out there to keep it going.
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« Reply #154 on: March 20, 2006, 08:18:45 PM »
mmmmm... a 3-tittied woman :)

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« Reply #155 on: March 20, 2006, 08:23:14 PM »
I see so many bro's come into where I work out full of attitude and cockiness and they forget the real reason why we all started lifting. I'm talking about GOD, the big man, the creator. All things are possible through GOD. If I knew anything about the Bible I could quote something but seriously we need to focus on what bodybuilding is really about. You can want to look good and maybe pull some girls but when you line up for some deep squats (maybe 225x10?) your going to need a guy like God to back you up incase you crush yourself.

Who's with me on this?

all praise the all mighty prophet Mohammed, now let me bow to Budha, contemplate the wheel of samsari and say 3 hail marys as  I pray that Jesus will still let the jews into heaven . All this GOD business saps my energy for a good pump, so no for me :D
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« Reply #156 on: March 20, 2006, 09:57:14 PM »
You'd think so, huh?

Fortunately for Christianity (unfortunately for humanity), there are more than enough st00pid people incapable of logical thinking out there to keep it going.

Ya know the more i think bout it i dont know.  Just wishfull thinkin i guess. 
The more i think bout it with the current events happeining around the world, it seems we are taking more and more steps backwords. 

Just like what happend in the middle ages.  MAnkind was progressing so good up untill the fall of the roman empire.  Then christianity got a hold of man kind and blahhhhhhhh.......it all goes to shit for several hundred years.
Wait for it....

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« Reply #157 on: March 20, 2006, 10:44:40 PM »
Would you feel the same way if 90% of the population believed in 3-titted women, constantly talked about 3-titted women even in venues and circumstances that have nothing to do with 3-titted women, made the existence of three-titted women a major focus or their lives to the point of spending countless time and money in the worship of 3-titted women, drafted much of our nation's laws (laws you are expected to follow too) based on what the 3-titted woman would want, and constantly got on your case because you don't believe in 3-titted women?

 ::)

The only problem with that theorie is that there is no proof of a "3-titted woman. But there is proof of Jesus' existence along with archaeological scripture findings that match the scripture in the Bible!

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« Reply #158 on: March 20, 2006, 10:55:32 PM »

the "proof" of jesus existance is sketchy at best ... more than likely, there was a dude named jesus, but his "story" was actually that of a trouble maker born someyears later: john of gamala

http://www.luigicascioli.it/prove2_eng.php

it seems alot of people forget the catholic church had a monopoly on history for 100's of years .... i kinda feel sorry for all the tards who base their lives around a book desigened to keep a bunch of pedophiles and landlords in power ;D

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« Reply #159 on: March 21, 2006, 03:23:25 AM »
I think I might be a born-again 3-tittied believer.

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« Reply #160 on: March 21, 2006, 04:21:57 AM »
Dude, you really should stop with the "cut and paste". Once in a while is fine, but this is rediculous. Do you have an original argument on this subject??

You pudgy moron....Nothing I posted that wasn't quoted was a cut and paste. ANYTIME I copy and paste something I put it in quotes and provide the source.
99% of what I type is 100% from me unless stated otherwise and I always provide my sources when I copy and paste.

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« Reply #161 on: March 21, 2006, 04:38:24 AM »
It is IRRELEVANT how OLD the earth is. In the BEGINNING GOD CREATED it! What is important is how it was created. Would you care to impress us with “How the earth was formed.”? You do realize that this is something that the GREATEST minds in the world struggle with. Yet you seem to think that you can refute ANY Christian on the subject. This cannot even be done by the greatest minds in the world.


FredK...I'm not going to explain ANYTHING to you because you haven't addressed my past argument. I could easly explain how the earth formed and how I can prove that's how it happened..But until you address ALL of my arguments..I won't provide anymore.


You realize that calling someone who doesn’t agree with you, and who does provide FACTS to back his argument, a “Retard” is not something a great mind confident in his arguments would do.

I call you a Retard because you are one. You ignore my arguments.


Yet with all of Darwin’s attempts to “explain” the human eye, he was still unable to explain how “VISION” evolved. Like the development of the nerves which transmit the data the eyes see. How the lens, retina, etc. all communicate to the brain. Wasn’t the purpose of the eye to “SEE”. Yet Darwin can’t accurately explain how that fits into his “THEORY”. That’s an interesting word. What does “THEORY” mean?

Darwin lived over 100 years ago. He didn't have the medical knowledge or technology yet to explain the details of the biomechanics of the eye. However today we can explain it easly.

Secondly Evolution itself is NOT a theory..Evolution is a FACT. The "Theory" is Darwins explanation of Evolution..How it works and why. Evolution-Change in the genetics of a population over time due to natural selection..This is a fact. Pure and simple. Darwins "Theory" explains the fact.

"Theory" doesn't mean guess either. A theory is a complex construction of facts explaining something.

http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node7.html


You might want to verify your sources before making these statements about our Forefathers. I believe Abraham Lincoln was a Christian. By the way, wasn’t the FIRST SCHOOL BOOK a “BIBLE”?????

Lincoln believed in a "God" but he was NOT a christian...

http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2140


Are you saying that our country’s morals do not DIRECTLY correlate to the Ten Commandments?? You might want to read them.

The laws of our country were based on reason and logic(most of them that is). "Do not kill" for instance does NOT orginate from the 10 commandments but comes from civilization as a whole. The 10 commandments come from civilizations common laws and jewish laws. Our laws don't come from the 10 commandments but they both come from civilization. No civilization could survive without banning violent crime and killing.


So you’re saying that when a species that already existed grows “Feathers” that constitutes a transitional form into another species. Are you saying that if a bald man grows hair he is a new species? I better stay away from the Rogaine.

A species doesn't just "Grow feathers". Populations gradually change due to natural selection. The growing of feathers takes places over millions of years and the end result is a NEW species from the original.

Growing hair doesn't make you a new species...Hair isn't feathers. The transitionals I posted don't just have feathers. They have beaks also(Like birds) but teeth(like dinosaurs). Along with numerous other transitional features which you obviously did not read.


How about providing us with a fossil record of a dinosaur with one wing, half a beak, and duck feet, that didn’t make it. Isn’t Darwin’s theory “Survival of the FITTEST”? A transitional form doesn’t sound very FIT!

Why would a dinosaur have one wing and a half of a beak? That doesn't make any sense.

You obviously don't understand how evolution works even though i've explained it so i'll explain it in simple terms for you...

1.Say you've got a population of let's say dinosaurs.

2.Environment changes.

3.Random mutations that always occured before still occur.

4.Those mutations that benefit the individual with them in this new environment proliferate.

5.The mutations that benefit proliferate through the whole population.

6.Soon the whole population has this benefitial mutation.

7.More mutations are naturally selected.

8.Gradually as more and more changes(Mutations) build up within the population the population changes.

9.After millions of years the change is great and this new population is different completly from the original population.


Get it?

We would not see 1 winged or half a beaked birds. We would see gradual changes. In the middle between modern birds and ancient dinosaurs you would see animals with features of both..I.E. maybe teeth and beaks..Scales and feathers..ect..ect. Small changes built up over time.

It's extremly easy to understand.


Oh, you called me a “Moron”. Once again, GENIUS at work explaining his arguments. Stick to the chat rooms with the kids. Who don't take the time to research your arguments and assume what you say is fact. When in reality they are SERIOUSLY flawed. I encourage you to take some time to read the Bible before you try to argue that its not true.

Now go out and play.

I don't have time for childish nonsense (calling names).

Peace out.



If you would debate like an ADULT and stop ignoring all of my points and making up new nonsense I would not call you a moron.

However I expected you would make up a pathetic excuse(name calling) to get away from this loosing battle.

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« Reply #162 on: March 21, 2006, 04:39:27 AM »
I am not a religeous person at all...but  I am fairly certain that it has been proven that Jesus was an actual person,far as him being the son of God and all that,well that is a matter of faith and personal opinion.

You'd be wrong....

The existence of Jesus is about as "proven" as the existence of Hercules.

I hope that explains it.

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« Reply #163 on: March 21, 2006, 04:42:51 AM »
Strong athiests often seem to be trying to convince others to join their belief so just in case they're wrong, they won't be alone in hell.

I truly believe in my heart there is no such thing as a 3-tittied woman.  So I don't really think about it.  I don't preach to anyone who believes in such a woman.  It just never enters my mindset.  Same as how it is with weak athiests, who don't know or care if there is a supreme being.

However, if I doubted myself a bit, I might always talk about how there was no such thing.  I'd argue with others about it.  It would matter.  But since I TRULY believe it, it's a non-issue for me.

IMO, strong athiests- those who are vocally anti-God - do believe a little, deep down.



1.Even weak atheists like myself argue against religious nutjobs.

2.You're assuming that disbelief in a God=Hell. Maybe there is a God and he punishes those who blindly believe and rewards those who are skeptical? Look up "Pascals wager".

3.You're forgeting that people who hold beliefs ACT upon those beliefs. People who believe homosexuality is a "sin" will do all they can to prevent it. People who believe in the "end times" jesus will come down and save the world and the "end times" are upon us won't care about the environment and will be ANXIOUS for the world to end so they can "be with jesus".
The fact is..These beliefs are DANGEROUS to society and doing everything you can to convince people this is a good thing.

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« Reply #164 on: March 21, 2006, 04:46:56 AM »
The only problem with that theorie is that there is no proof of a "3-titted woman. But there is proof of Jesus' existence along with archaeological scripture findings that match the scripture in the Bible!


1.The existence of jesus has NOT been proven. The onlything we have are the scriptures that were composed GENERATIONS after jesus supposedly died by unknown authors. Historically speaking the existence of Jesus is about as reliable as the existence of Hercules the son of Zeus!

2.Jesus's existance doesn't prove anything about Christianity. A man named Jesus existing 2,000 years ago only proves a man named jesus existed 2,000 years ago. It does NOT prove a "God".

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« Reply #165 on: March 21, 2006, 05:19:38 AM »
You'd be wrong....

The existence of Jesus is about as "proven" as the existence of Hercules.

I hope that explains it.

  Yeah, besides thar Hercules is way cooler than Jesus, that whiny bitch. ;)

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« Reply #166 on: March 21, 2006, 06:18:25 AM »
The more i think bout it with the current events happeining around the world, it seems we are taking more and more steps backwords. 

Just like what happend in the middle ages.  MAnkind was progressing so good up untill the fall of the roman empire.  Then christianity got a hold of man kind and blahhhhhhhh.......it all goes to shit for several hundred years.


Bingo.

Which is another reason for non-believers not to keep quiet about their non-belief.
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« Reply #167 on: March 21, 2006, 06:38:04 AM »

FredK...I'm not going to explain ANYTHING to you because you haven't addressed my past argument. I could easly explain how the earth formed and how I can prove that's how it happened..But until you address ALL of my arguments..I won't provide anymore.


I call you a Retard because you are one. You ignore my arguments.


Darwin lived over 100 years ago. He didn't have the medical knowledge or technology yet to explain the details of the biomechanics of the eye. However today we can explain it easly.

Secondly Evolution itself is NOT a theory..Evolution is a FACT. The "Theory" is Darwins explanation of Evolution..How it works and why. Evolution-Change in the genetics of a population over time due to natural selection..This is a fact. Pure and simple. Darwins "Theory" explains the fact.

"Theory" doesn't mean guess either. A theory is a complex construction of facts explaining something.

http://phyun5.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node7.html


Lincoln believed in a "God" but he was NOT a christian...

http://www.quotedb.com/quotes/2140


The laws of our country were based on reason and logic(most of them that is). "Do not kill" for instance does NOT orginate from the 10 commandments but comes from civilization as a whole. The 10 commandments come from civilizations common laws and jewish laws. Our laws don't come from the 10 commandments but they both come from civilization. No civilization could survive without banning violent crime and killing.


A species doesn't just "Grow feathers". Populations gradually change due to natural selection. The growing of feathers takes places over millions of years and the end result is a NEW species from the original.

Growing hair doesn't make you a new species...Hair isn't feathers. The transitionals I posted don't just have feathers. They have beaks also(Like birds) but teeth(like dinosaurs). Along with numerous other transitional features which you obviously did not read.


Why would a dinosaur have one wing and a half of a beak? That doesn't make any sense.

You obviously don't understand how evolution works even though i've explained it so i'll explain it in simple terms for you...

1.Say you've got a population of let's say dinosaurs.

2.Environment changes.

3.Random mutations that always occured before still occur.

4.Those mutations that benefit the individual with them in this new environment proliferate.

5.The mutations that benefit proliferate through the whole population.

6.Soon the whole population has this benefitial mutation.

7.More mutations are naturally selected.

8.Gradually as more and more changes(Mutations) build up within the population the population changes.

9.After millions of years the change is great and this new population is different completly from the original population.


Get it?

We would not see 1 winged or half a beaked birds. We would see gradual changes. In the middle between modern birds and ancient dinosaurs you would see animals with features of both..I.E. maybe teeth and beaks..Scales and feathers..ect..ect. Small changes built up over time.

It's extremly easy to understand.



If you would debate like an ADULT and stop ignoring all of my points and making up new nonsense I would not call you a moron.

However I expected you would make up a pathetic excuse(name calling) to get away from this loosing battle.

Good stuff bro, but trust me no point explaining to an ignoramus they will believe what they want to believe ignoring all scientific fact

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« Reply #168 on: March 21, 2006, 06:57:31 AM »
Simply put….. God and religion are for people who are to weak to live in this world without the possibility of an afterlife!!

Money and control = Reason’s to have religion!!

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« Reply #169 on: March 21, 2006, 07:05:54 AM »

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« Reply #170 on: March 21, 2006, 07:28:12 AM »
Johnny Apollo= idiot


 I HOPE THAT EXPLAINS IT.

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« Reply #171 on: March 21, 2006, 08:26:32 AM »
Why?  Because he doesn't believe in your "god" fairy tale?

Neither do I.

Hope this helps.  :D

And we don't believe in your "theories"....it's a mook point. I believe in what I believe and you believe in what you believe...leave it at that!!

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« Reply #172 on: March 21, 2006, 08:28:47 AM »
I work for a living and don't have time to write small novels as posts, that being said:


http://christiananswers.net/archaeology/home.html

http://christiananswers.net/creation/home.html

http://christiananswers.net/jesus/home.html


And I don't have time to refute whole websites... ::)


But most of the stuff noted there is like the bullshit that has already been posted and all easly refutable.

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« Reply #173 on: March 21, 2006, 08:32:52 AM »
And we don't believe in your "theories"....it's a mook point. I believe in what I believe and you believe in what you believe...leave it at that!!


You like most other laymen misunderstand what "Theory" means in science...


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In scientific usage, a theory does not mean an unsubstantiated guess or hunch, as it often does in other contexts. Scientific theories are never proven to be true, but can be disproven. All scientific understanding takes the form of hypotheses, or conjectures. A theory is in this context a set of hypotheses that are logically bound together, often having used the hypothetico-deductive method.

Theories are typically ways of explaining why things happen, often, but not always, after their occurrence is no longer in scientific dispute. For example, "global warming" refers to the observation that worldwide temperatures seem to be increasing. The "theory of global warming" refers instead to scientific work that attempts to explain how and why this could be happening.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory

An example...The OBSERVATION of evolution is the fact. Evolution=Fact.
The "Theory" is the explanation of HOW it happens. Darwins "Theory of evolution" is the theory of HOW it happens not that it happens..And even the theory of HOW is basically undisputed among real working scientists, 95% of whom support evolution 99.9% biologists support it.

Get it?

Secondly "Lack of belief" in a God isn't a Theory..It's just a lack of belief based on lack of evidence for a God. In short the most reasonable stance.

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« Reply #174 on: March 21, 2006, 08:42:59 AM »
Didn't think you'd go through it, but like I said. It's my believe (backed with evidence and I usually don't commit to anything without evidence so it's not like I woke up one day and said "I think I'll become a born again Christian today". It's my belief and I stand by it.

A good book to refute what you say is: The Case for Christ by Lee Stroble. He was just like you..an atheist until he did research and the evidence was overwhelming. Google his name and you can do the rest...I'm done with this subject!