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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #175 on: February 23, 2016, 05:56:30 AM »
After playing with the MedicareForAll calculator last night, I'm not so sure Uncle Bernie has my best interests in mind.  It appears I would have to reduce my income by over $20,000 in order not to lose any money.  However, I was planning on promoting within my company in the next 2 years, plus I receive contract raises yearly.  I guess my only solution would be to start "tax sheltering" a good portion of my income. 

After giving this much thought, I'm just not convinced that Uncle Bernie is the right candidate for me. 

You could take a job at Lowes to offset state and federal taxes.

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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #176 on: February 23, 2016, 06:06:45 AM »
You could take a job at Lowes to offset state and federal taxes.

I'm giving this great consideration.  It appears that my wife and I make too much money, and Uncle Bernie want's to take it and give it to the poor.  Kind of like Robinhood if you will.  So Berniehood wants my money.  The only way I can legally prevent him from taking it would be to tax shelter it, or reduce my income.  Tax sheltering seems very unethical, so that only leaves me one option.  Either my wife or I will have to quit our job. 

I'm trying to look at the bright side though.  After I quit my job, I will have more time to invest in other ventures.  IE, staying at home, playing video games, and posting on getbig.   :D

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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #177 on: February 23, 2016, 06:14:46 AM »
I'm giving this great consideration.  It appears that my wife and I make too much money, and Uncle Bernie want's to take it and give it to the poor.  Kind of like Robinhood if you will.  So Berniehood wants my money.  The only way I can legally prevent him from taking it would be to tax shelter it, or reduce my income.  Tax sheltering seems very unethical, so that only leaves me one option.  Either my wife or I will have to quit our job. 

I'm trying to look at the bright side though.  After I quit my job, I will have more time to invest in other ventures.  IE, staying at home, playing video games, and posting on getbig.   :D

People can preserve some of their family time.

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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #178 on: February 23, 2016, 08:14:45 AM »
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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #179 on: February 23, 2016, 02:38:31 PM »
sanders need to win every remaining election with 55% to overcome this delegate lead.

it's maddening, a total mockery.
Superdelegates always switch to whoever wins the most pledged delegates at the end so that is not a requirement to win every primary with 55 percent.



Clinton and Bernie are tied with 51 pledged delegates each as they head to South Carolina.

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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #180 on: February 23, 2016, 02:41:39 PM »
I'm giving this great consideration.  It appears that my wife and I make too much money, and Uncle Bernie want's to take it and give it to the poor.  Kind of like Robinhood if you will.  So Berniehood wants my money.  The only way I can legally prevent him from taking it would be to tax shelter it, or reduce my income.  Tax sheltering seems very unethical, so that only leaves me one option.  Either my wife or I will have to quit our job. 

I'm trying to look at the bright side though.  After I quit my job, I will have more time to invest in other ventures.  IE, staying at home, playing video games, and posting on getbig.   :D

I thought you weren't in the top 1.5 percent of income earners.


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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #181 on: February 23, 2016, 08:48:03 PM »
I thought you weren't in the top 1.5 percent of income earners.



I'm not, that chart is not accurate at all.  It does not take into consideration many other variables.   Such as itemized deductions, insurance premiums,  copays,  deductibles, etc.  You need to stop posting that lame chart.  It is a complete misrepresentation.

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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #182 on: February 23, 2016, 09:14:58 PM »

is the girl in the last pic related to DLB?

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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #183 on: February 26, 2016, 06:00:30 AM »
It appears that Americans don't have much love for Berniecare if it means they will have to pay more, lose their doctors, or longer wait times.   :-\

Poll: The more you know, the less you like 'Berniecare'

In poll, Americans like 'Medicare for all' but not higher taxes, loss of employer coverage

WASHINGTON — At first, many Americans like the idea of "Medicare for all," a cradle-to-grave government-run health system that's a rallying cry for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders.

But bring up the trade-offs — from higher taxes to giving up employer coverage — and support starts to shrivel.

http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20160225/NEWS/160229668

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Re: Bernie Sanders Medicare
« Reply #184 on: February 26, 2016, 06:12:43 AM »
It appears that Americans don't have much love for Berniecare if it means they will have to pay more, lose their doctors, or longer wait times.   :-\

Poll: The more you know, the less you like 'Berniecare'

In poll, Americans like 'Medicare for all' but not higher taxes, loss of employer coverage

WASHINGTON — At first, many Americans like the idea of "Medicare for all," a cradle-to-grave government-run health system that's a rallying cry for Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders.

But bring up the trade-offs — from higher taxes to giving up employer coverage — and support starts to shrivel.

http://www.poconorecord.com/article/20160225/NEWS/160229668

People at the bottom don't feel it will have any cost to them or unintended consequences. Those desiring a Canadian (for example) system should lay out what it would cost individual taxes, VAT, etc.. so people can make an informed decision. Pretending "it won't cost anything", "it'll save trillions", "there's more than enough money" is stupid.

From their perspective: Universal healthcare is worth whatever costs citizens. Why pretend otherwise.