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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2016, 07:00:30 PM »
Everyone I know who loves dogs more than people is a shitty human being who couldn't generate loving relationships with others, so turned to dogs because they could control the relationship and remain a cun+, therefore never having to develop a personality that others would warm to.  It's one thing to love dogs, but to love them more than people, that's just plain wrong.
Hmmm would peg you as quite the dog lover.
Except the fact you're scared shitless of them :D
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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2016, 11:41:19 PM »

Holy fuck, you sound like a total wank.

Yeah, I guess wanting to prevent healthy animals being euthanased because of do-gooders and not wanting to hang out with arseholes does make one quite the total wank.   ::)

If you thought any other way I would be doing something wrong.  ;D

I have dealt with dog nutters for years, such people claim to be good people but are easily exposed by some home truths.  I often find their extreme love and need for dogs masks some extreme emotional or mental disturbance.  This thread is the perfect example.  All I am advocating for is the prevention of millions of healthy animals being unnecessarily destroyed, and look how upset the so called dog lovers become.  Staggering really. I learned long ago, nothing will change, as human beings are by nature exploitative and have way too many blind spots to be able to overcome there more serious personality disorders, and such types refuse to seek the help they would need to do so.

Essentially the answer is simple, to prevent these mass animal killings all that would need to happen is for people to give up THEIR NEED to enslave an animal for their own selfish purposes.  I don't mind people buying pets, because I have had to accept how fucked up human nature can be in those who lack insight. But do it realising you are part of an exploitative process, don't tell yourself you are an animal lover or rescuing an animal because you are not.  You are doing it for your own selfish reasons, you are not a good person for it, quite the opposite.
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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #52 on: February 24, 2016, 02:34:43 AM »
Just an FYI for "Radical Asshole"....I have hundreds of aquaintances,really great close friends who would bleed for me,a tight family,a wife I`ve been happily married to for 13 and 1/2 years and 3 dogs who love me unconditionally.


We`ve never argued before in all these years but as chaos said,you hate dogs because of the incident that happened to you whereas I love my dogs as if they were the children I never had.


I`d gladly do time if someone hurt my dogs and it would be their funeral and my trial.


Good luck with your phobia.........a good psychiatrist may help you regain your courage.

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #53 on: February 24, 2016, 02:46:16 AM »
Just an FYI for "Radical Asshole"....I have hundreds of aquaintances,really great close friends who would bleed for me,a tight family,a wife I`ve been happily married to for 13 and 1/2 years and 3 dogs who love me unconditionally.


We`ve never argued before in all these years but as chaos said,you hate dogs because of the incident that happened to you whereas I love my dogs as if they were the children I never had.


I`d gladly do time if someone hurt my dogs and it would be their funeral and my trial.


Good luck with your phobia.........a good psychiatrist may help you regain your courage.
I have actually overcome any fear I had of dogs, and yes, I did seek help for it.  And I actually spend a fair amount of time around dogs with no problems.  And yes a serious dog attack did cause me a pretty serious and inconvenient injury, quite a large financial loss as well as the loss of my business. But this isn't the reason for my views.  I just don't think human beings wanting to own a companion animal is a good enough reason to create an industry that causes intense animal suffering with no end in sight. And it is more the views of the dog owners themselves that is bothersome, thinking they are rescuing or saving animals when the opposite is true.  And just your willingness to do jail time over someone harming your dogs seems idiotic to me, and yet you have no problem with all the dogs that get harmed just so you can own YOUR dogs.  Why are your dogs more important than all the other healthy unwanted dogs scheduled for destruction? Why, just because they are YOURS?  

We can't actually OWN other life forms, but it is just the type of people who want to that are attracted to dog ownership, usually control freaks. I haven't even begun to talk about the ethics of artificial selection and the animal suffering this causes.  It is such a perverse industry, and just because it brings some solace and comfort to little old ladies and lonely souls isn't a good enough reason for it in my opinion.  Some goes with zoos and seaworld and all the other shitty exploitation of animals humans do because it makes them feel good.
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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2016, 02:53:47 AM »
However, if humans didn't domesticate animals, or display them in zoos/aquariums/etc., we'd inevitably exterminate most all species from the planet.

Pick your poison.
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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2016, 03:37:49 AM »
However, if humans didn't domesticate animals, or display them in zoos/aquariums/etc., we'd inevitably exterminate most all species from the planet.

Pick your poison.
This is true, but extinction absolves humans of any guilt and shame over profiting from animal exploitation and suffering.  I am a cynic by nature and I am convinced humans will continue raping and pillaging the finite resources of the planet until they themselves become extinct.
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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2016, 04:03:08 AM »
I have a rescue dog but he can't fly the helicopter for shit.  Can't even put a bandaid on someone.  I'd fire him but he's a volunteer.

Haha! You're wasted on this shithole of a site.

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #57 on: February 24, 2016, 04:13:02 AM »
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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #58 on: February 24, 2016, 05:42:25 AM »
Haha! You're wasted on this shithole of a site.

Thanks, man.  Always came to work all day, every day.  Never wandered off.  Naturally outgoing.  Even worked out how to climb ladders on his own.  And get carried back down again.

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #59 on: February 24, 2016, 06:02:59 AM »
That is a very happy and very Australian looking dog you have. How old is he?

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #60 on: February 24, 2016, 06:22:25 AM »
16 1/2.  We got old together.  Glad he got to make it out of the 'burbs and have his country adventures.

I'm going with kelpie/heeler/german shepherd/corgie/dingo.  It doesn't come across fully in pics but he's so animated and engaging that people can't resist him.  Pulls more women than I do.


Ok ok, I'll quit boring every one with my dog.  Someone else's turn.  Kenny lad?

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #61 on: February 24, 2016, 07:36:23 AM »
I have actually overcome any fear I had of dogs, and yes, I did seek help for it.  And I actually spend a fair amount of time around dogs with no problems.  And yes a serious dog attack did cause me a pretty serious and inconvenient injury, quite a large financial loss as well as the loss of my business. But this isn't the reason for my views.  I just don't think human beings wanting to own a companion animal is a good enough reason to create an industry that causes intense animal suffering with no end in sight. And it is more the views of the dog owners themselves that is bothersome, thinking they are rescuing or saving animals when the opposite is true.  And just your willingness to do jail time over someone harming your dogs seems idiotic to me, and yet you have no problem with all the dogs that get harmed just so you can own YOUR dogs.  Why are your dogs more important than all the other healthy unwanted dogs scheduled for destruction? Why, just because they are YOURS? 

We can't actually OWN other life forms, but it is just the type of people who want to that are attracted to dog ownership, usually control freaks. I haven't even begun to talk about the ethics of artificial selection and the animal suffering this causes.  It is such a perverse industry, and just because it brings some solace and comfort to little old ladies and lonely souls isn't a good enough reason for it in my opinion.  Some goes with zoos and seaworld and all the other shitty exploitation of animals humans do because it makes them feel good.
All wiseass stuff aside,I sympathize with you and always have since you first told the story about the attack.

I`m sure it would traumatize anyone.

Glad you got help dude.

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #62 on: February 24, 2016, 07:37:18 AM »
16 1/2.  We got old together.  Glad he got to make it out of the 'burbs and have his country adventures.

I'm going with kelpie/heeler/german shepherd/corgie/dingo.  It doesn't come across fully in pics but he's so animated and engaging that people can't resist him.  Pulls more women than I do.


Ok ok, I'll quit boring every one with my dog.  Someone else's turn.  Kenny lad?
I love you Tape......even better than I love my dogs!   ;)

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #63 on: February 24, 2016, 08:31:07 AM »
16 1/2.  We got old together.  Glad he got to make it out of the 'burbs and have his country adventures.

I'm going with kelpie/heeler/german shepherd/corgie/dingo.  It doesn't come across fully in pics but he's so animated and engaging that people can't resist him.  Pulls more women than I do.


Ok ok, I'll quit boring every one with my dog.  Someone else's turn.  Kenny lad?

Hes a cool looking dog. Need this kind of look when taking him for a walk:


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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #64 on: February 24, 2016, 08:31:49 AM »
THE DINGO ATE MY BABY!
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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #65 on: February 24, 2016, 03:15:46 PM »
Hes a cool looking dog. Need this kind of look when taking him for a walk:



This will never go out of style!  Jolly swagmen, billabongs, jumbucks, tuckabags, and a dog in a ute.


I love you Tape......even better than I love my dogs!   ;)

Bullshit but I'll play along.  With 10% of my dog's charm, I'm 100% irresistible.  :D  




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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #66 on: February 24, 2016, 06:27:11 PM »
Yeah, I guess wanting to prevent healthy animals being euthanased because of do-gooders and not wanting to hang out with arseholes does make one quite the total wank.   ::)

If you thought any other way I would be doing something wrong.  ;D

I have dealt with dog nutters for years, such people claim to be good people but are easily exposed by some home truths.  I often find their extreme love and need for dogs masks some extreme emotional or mental disturbance.  This thread is the perfect example.  All I am advocating for is the prevention of millions of healthy animals being unnecessarily destroyed, and look how upset the so called dog lovers become.  Staggering really. I learned long ago, nothing will change, as human beings are by nature exploitative and have way too many blind spots to be able to overcome there more serious personality disorders, and such types refuse to seek the help they would need to do so.

Essentially the answer is simple, to prevent these mass animal killings all that would need to happen is for people to give up THEIR NEED to enslave an animal for their own selfish purposes.  I don't mind people buying pets, because I have had to accept how fucked up human nature can be in those who lack insight. But do it realising you are part of an exploitative process, don't tell yourself you are an animal lover or rescuing an animal because you are not.  You are doing it for your own selfish reasons, you are not a good person for it, quite the opposite.

I won't even read that. Lmao

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #67 on: February 24, 2016, 09:20:44 PM »
All wiseass stuff aside,I sympathize with you and always have since you first told the story about the attack.

I`m sure it would traumatize anyone.

Glad you got help dude.
Thanks Man, I do actually appreciate the sentiment.  I have to work hard to not get too emotional when these types of issues come up. I used to think I was pretty tough until I squared off with a couple of angry pitbulls. I soon learned my limitations, but I am grateful it wasn't a lot worse.  I have corresponded with parents who have lost children to dog attacks and victims who have lost limbs and other horrendous injuries, so I suppose I come at the issue from a unique perspective.  And it actually crept up on me psychologically, I suppose that's why they call it Post Traumatic Stress, at first my priority was to just get walking and back into life which took a good 6 months but it was around the one year mark I started to slip mentally.  I tried hard to fight against it but I did fall in a huge hole mentally for years to come after it.  I feel I am well on the other side of it now and I credit weight training to a big part of my improvement, as well as some pretty intense psychotherapy.
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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #68 on: February 25, 2016, 08:20:55 AM »
Serious dog question.  Looking to get a German Sheppard but deciding between Male and Female.  Don't want a dog with his cock hanging out all over the place.

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #69 on: February 25, 2016, 08:28:12 AM »
Serious dog question.  Looking to get a German Sheppard but deciding between Male and Female.  Don't want a dog with his cock hanging out all over the place.
splay or neuter your pets , it's supposed to extend their lives...as bob barker always says...
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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #70 on: February 25, 2016, 08:47:14 AM »
All I know is that my rescue dog saved my life.  I was walking the trail by my house and aliens came by spaceship.  They seem to have some kind of discussion that I couldn't understand and they took the dog leaving me holding a plastic bag of dog poop.  I guess they thought I was just a flunky following the master picking up his poop. Sorry for the old joke but I'm old.

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Re: Good read about dogs and all the genetic problems caused by humans
« Reply #71 on: February 25, 2016, 08:54:21 AM »
splay or neuter your pets , it's supposed to extend their lives...as bob barker always says...

Neutering doesn't stop the cock from dangling.