Hospitals - Biggest crooks in America

[El Diablo Blanco]

The story goes like this.  About a month ago I had the worst stomach pain.  Enough that I was curled up in a ball on the floor and agonizing.  I went to emergency around 1 am.  The doctor checks me out and keeps saying it might be my appendix.  I point out that the pain is in my lower abdomen away from my side where appendix pain would be but he insists on me getting an MRI.  Of course the MRI comes back negative.  They give me morphine then explain that a bunch of people have been in already with similar symptoms and they think it's a virus.  So basically they knew this but insisted on the MRI anyways.

Yesterday I get a bill in the mail.  The hospital charged over $10K to insurance, $7K of which was for the MRI.  My insurance covers 90% and the bill to me was $1200.  Fuck that.  I call the hospital and complain and tell them I can't pay the bill.  They then offer me a payment plan of $100 a month.  I tell them I still can't pay that.  They put me on hold come back and say they will settle for $175 if I can pay right now while on the phone.  So I agree and pay with my credit card.  Motherfuckers.  They already made their money from Insurance and now anything from me is just pure profit for them.  Biggest bunch of crooks in history.

[MANGOOS]

Here MRI less than 200 euros if you want it fast, less than 50 if you wait. 

[El Diablo Blanco]

Here MRI less than 200 euros if you want it fast, less than 50 if you wait. 

Insurance companies and hospitals have negotiated rates for all sorts of procedures that far exceed the normal cost if you had to pay cash in any other country.  It's the biggest scam running.
Something like a broken arm would cost a couple hundred if you had to pay out of pocket but the Insurance negotiated rate is a couple thousand.

[Powerlift66]

A guy I know was in for appendix, had no insurance.
When he got the bill, they charged him 70.00 for an apple juice... No lie...

[SF1900]

No joke, some hospitals charge $250.00 for ONE Tylenol. You can buy a box of Tylenol (25) for like $11.99 

[Mr Anabolic]

It's all rigged/scams to make the most money possible.  Cancer treatment is another huge racket = $800 billion a year.  Big pharma = $1 trillion dollars a year.  It goes on and on add infinitum.  Notice how they only treat the symptoms, they never cure anything.

[HonestBob]

No joke, some hospitals charge $250.00 for ONE Tylenol. You can buy a box of Tylenol (25) for like $11.99 

How do they get away with that?

You couldn't get away with that in Europe.

[disco_stu]

The story goes like this.  About a month ago I had the worst stomach pain.  Enough that I was curled up in a ball on the floor and agonizing.  I went to emergency around 1 am.  The doctor checks me out and keeps saying it might be my appendix.  I point out that the pain is in my lower abdomen away from my side where appendix pain would be but he insists on me getting an MRI.  Of course the MRI comes back negative.  They give me morphine then explain that a bunch of people have been in already with similar symptoms and they think it's a virus.  So basically they knew this but insisted on the MRI anyways.

Yesterday I get a bill in the mail.  The hospital charged over $10K to insurance, $7K of which was for the MRI.  My insurance covers 90% and the bill to me was $1200.  Fuck that.  I call the hospital and complain and tell them I can't pay the bill.  They then offer me a payment plan of $100 a month.  I tell them I still can't pay that.  They put me on hold come back and say they will settle for $175 if I can pay right now while on the phone.  So I agree and pay with my credit card.  Motherfuckers.  They already made their money from Insurance and now anything from me is just pure profit for them.  Biggest bunch of crooks in history.

MRIs here cost about $400 Aud, and we pay about $50 of it.

The health system in the US is arguably the biggest reason why so many people are desperate.

desperate people resort to crime, drugs to numb the despair, and eventually impact those who arent desperate.

thats why it is almost beyond belief that anyone would oppose a subsidised health care system.

the rest of the world look on and just think that US citizens are so self centered that they only care about themselves, but also so stupid that they dont "get" that a desperate society is a dangerous one.

what you pay in insurance, guns, defence and fortification would amount to alot less than if each individual contributed part of tax to a universal system. this model is proven in many countries.

if you dont, hospitals can charge what they want, because the government has no influence.

[disco_stu]

It's all rigged/scams to make the most money possible.  Cancer treatment is another huge racket = $800 billion a year.  Big pharma = $1 trillion dollars a year.  It goes on and on add infinitum.  Notice how they only treat the symptoms, they never cure anything.

its the individual who is the scammer. each individual refuses to go for healthcare because they figure if they arent sick, they are better off.

i.e. fuck anyone who is sick- at least I'm not.

you run into problems when u do get sick. its your fault for not putting money away for the chance that you may get sick.

thats the game you play. its your responsibility to put enough money away to cover your insurance gap.

in exchange you dont have to pay a tax.

so dont complain about it- be responsible and work within the system you vote for- you are an adult.

[Bear232]

IN the US, outpatient MRI's now run around 450$ to 900$.   IN house MRI is where the hospitals are socking it too the insurance companies.  You are covering their hospitals overhead.

Plus in the US you have MRI's just about anywhere.

[Ron Jeremy]

Insurance=Racket.

[HTexan]

The story goes like this.  About a month ago I had the worst stomach pain.  Enough that I was curled up in a ball on the floor and agonizing.  I went to emergency around 1 am.  The doctor checks me out and keeps saying it might be my appendix.  I point out that the pain is in my lower abdomen away from my side where appendix pain would be but he insists on me getting an MRI.  Of course the MRI comes back negative.  They give me morphine then explain that a bunch of people have been in already with similar symptoms and they think it's a virus.  So basically they knew this but insisted on the MRI anyways.

Yesterday I get a bill in the mail.  The hospital charged over $10K to insurance, $7K of which was for the MRI.  My insurance covers 90% and the bill to me was $1200.  Fuck that.  I call the hospital and complain and tell them I can't pay the bill.  They then offer me a payment plan of $100 a month.  I tell them I still can't pay that.  They put me on hold come back and say they will settle for $175 if I can pay right now while on the phone.  So I agree and pay with my credit card.  Motherfuckers.  They already made their money from Insurance and now anything from me is just pure profit for them.  Biggest bunch of crooks in history.

ER/ hospital is always $$$. I went to the ER a couple years back for severe bad pain after a workout. Big mistake. Over fucking 4000 bucks i owned  just for a doctor to say a had a muscle strain. That was just my part, not my insurance's part. I was doing a payment plan, but they decided to report me to my credit report  as not pay. WTF? I called them,  they say it was a mistake but  there was nothing they could do. So i basically say fuck it a didnt pay anymore. It's on my  credit report anyway.    

[Tapeworm]

Sounds like a good doctor imo.  Pain could be caused by plenty of serious things.  He used the mri to rule them out.  I'd rather that than an md content to say it's probably nothing serious and send me home.

The doctor himself has nothing to do with retarded billings.  You get that with a system that stacks one for-profit entity on top of another, all of them taking a bite out of your ass, and no one manning the brake lever.

[Kwon_2]

CADO

[The True Adonis]

There is only one candidate who want to fix this travesty to make a Single Payer system, like the rest of the Industrialized World has.  Healthcare as a right, not a privilege.  

Bernie Sanders.

[DanielPaul]

There is only one candidate who want to fix this travesty to make a Single Payer system, like the rest of the Industrialized World has.  Healthcare as a right, not a privilege.  

Bernie Sanders.

oh shut the fuck up, cause socialism works so fucking great every where else

[The True Adonis]

oh shut the fuck up, cause socialism works so fucking great every where else

Why do we pay more per person, get worse results than the rest of the Industrialized world when it comes to healthcare.

Yes it works every where else.  Its a proven system.

[DanielPaul]

Why do we pay more per person, get worse results than the rest of the Industrialized world when it comes to healthcare.

Yes it works every where else.  Its a proven system.

no it doesn't, I don't feel like arguing with an idiot right now I'm tired and going to bed, fuck you Adam and get a better haircut

[The True Adonis]

no it doesn't, I don't feel like arguing with an idiot right now I'm tired and going to bed, fuck you Adam and get a better haircut

Ok.  I am glad you are going to bed, wrong again.

I hope you go bankrupt one day from medical expenses.

[stuntmovie]

Good to see you GetBiggers complaining.

I thought that I was the only  one.

Here's my story .....

I had a toe nail fungus which is now cured but my toe nails have to be cut with a very sharp toe nail cutter who knows what the book he/she is doing.

The foot spa orientals won't do it so I go to a podiatrist for a 12 minute cutting and my insurance company gets a bill for $2,000.

The VA usually does this but there is always a waiting period of about 6 months at the least.

[DanielPaul]

Ok.  I am glad you are going to bed, wrong again.

I hope you go bankrupt one day from medical expenses.

well as long as your mom has no STDs I shouldn't be sick anytime soon.

[Nether Animal]

Okay, at least they gave your morphine without a fuss.

My story: late 2013 I had just got kicked off of my parents' insurance due to my age (I'm a loser), and I ended up getting kidney stones. I got them so bad and learned that I have a genetic condition where my ureter narrows and all of the stones were literally backed up in this spot. The doctor showed me images of it, it was insane Anyway, I needed two surgeries, racked up a 30k+ bill that I absolutely couldn't pay.

The hospital gives me the option to plead as a "Charity case" and have them just expunge the bill. They approved it, and I never heard anything else of it. If you can't pay it, there are many hospitals that offer this as a one time thing.

[ritch]

Reading some crazy shit here.

[ProudVirgin69]

Okay, at least they gave your morphine without a fuss.

My story: late 2013 I had just got kicked off of my parents' insurance due to my age (I'm a loser), and I ended up getting kidney stones. I got them so bad and learned that I have a genetic condition where my ureter narrows and all of the stones were literally backed up in this spot. The doctor showed me images of it, it was insane Anyway, I needed two surgeries, racked up a 30k+ bill that I absolutely couldn't pay.

The hospital gives me the option to plead as a "Charity case" and have them just expunge the bill. They approved it, and I never heard anything else of it. If you can't pay it, there are many hospitals that offer this as a one time thing.

You are part of the reason why medical bills are so outrageous

[El Diablo Blanco]

The funny part is, I was in pain, no one in the emergency room on a Tuesday at 1 am but it still took over an hour of waiting.  They put me into a triage room where I had to wait for a doctor.  Within a minute some nurse comes rolling in with a computer on wheels to take all my insurance and payment information. They were fast as fuck for this.  Then I had to wait another hour to see a doctor and another hour to get the MRI.  I ended up leaving just after 5:00 am.  Amazing how quickly a nurse is available to take your credit card but otherwise they're nowhere to be found.