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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #825 on: April 04, 2016, 12:19:08 PM »
Good to see you know that. I'm impressed hearing that coming from you.  You have a long ways to go. Guess where all modern doctrines come from?  Roman Catholic Church.  

exactly, that's why people should listen to the right ones, the gospels that jesus would preach

u showed me that imo funny music video. i watched it. this is pretty much my view on christianity how it is in a nutshell. takes 4 minutes of ur time.


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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #826 on: April 04, 2016, 12:28:41 PM »
you never answered my question

yes or no

if a man commits evil all his life and accepts god in his last seconds

will he be allowed in to heaven

No.

You get your salvation through keeping The Big 10.  The 10 Commandments.

Christ said if you love him, KEEP HIS Commandments.


John 14:15-31King James Version (KJV)

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.



1 John 2King James Version (KJV)

2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

If you're not following the 10 Commandments and claim to love Christ, you are a liar and the truth is not him. Don't expect to have a favorable decision during judgment.  This last min. thing is bullshit. You're answer is  they have meeting in the lake with the snake...
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #827 on: April 04, 2016, 12:30:52 PM »
No.

You get your salvation through keeping The Big 10.  The 10 Commandments.

Christ said if you love him, KEEP HIS Commandments.


John 14:15-31King James Version (KJV)

15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.



1 John 2King James Version (KJV)

2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

If you're not following the 10 Commandments and claim to love Christ, you are a liar and the truth is not him. Don't expect to have a favorable decision during judgment.  This last min. thing is bullshit. You're answer is  they have meeting in the lake with the snake...

in your version

see its down to interpretation

you are a sodomite and user of drugs

where does that fit in

remember you posted about fucking trannies

how about that

how about preaching the heathen mayan message does that count

i could go on
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #828 on: April 04, 2016, 12:36:33 PM »
exactly, that's why people should listen to the right ones, the gospels that jesus would preach

u showed me that imo funny music video. i watched it. this is pretty much my view on christianity how it is in a nutshell. takes 4 minutes of ur time.



Which one is the right one? And why?

Do know what doctrine I subscribe to?  No doctrine.  I only use the Bible and books associated i.e. Book of Enoch, Book of Jasher, Book of Jubilee and the Apocrypha.

When you read it for yourself with understanding, you're going to see my crazy doctrine isn't crazy, it's what it says. So you'll end up believing it or be totally turned off from it.
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #829 on: April 04, 2016, 12:39:00 PM »
What exactly is God's endgame or goal?

I mean, if he doesn't insist on at least ending the in-fighting between humans then wtf are we to think?

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #830 on: April 04, 2016, 12:45:07 PM »
in your version

see its down to interpretation

you are a sodomite and user of drugs

where does that fit in

remember you posted about fucking trannies

how about that

how about preaching the heathen mayan message does that count

i could go on


There is no my version.  it's what the bible says.  I've never been a sodomite, that is a lie. Drug user? You mean pot? That's not a drug that's a plant.  You see, I see you're trying to discredit me to discredit my message but it's not going to work. So to answer your question, sin doesn't fit in. Sin is transgression of the law.  Meaning the 10 Commandments. You've been paying attention to my long enough to know that I've given up my sinful ways a while ago.  Meaning whoremongering, fornication the whole thing. In regards to Mayan message stuff, you know what I said.  I said I was afraid something would happen but I didn't know what. Never have I said the world would end because that would be in contrast with what the Bible says.  So yes, please go on... A person has the whole time while they're alive to turn their life from sin to follow God's laws.  There is no repentance when you're in the grave.

Guess what? Sodomites and drug users and EVERY kind of sinner can repent and change their lives and follow God's Laws and make it to the Kingdom. So making fun of people trying to receive salvation by following God's laws is like making fun of an unlearned person for going to school to learn.  It shows you for the wicked shithead you are.
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #831 on: April 04, 2016, 12:56:16 PM »
in your version

see its down to interpretation

you are a sodomite and user of drugs

where does that fit in

remember you posted about fucking trannies

how about that

how about preaching the heathen mayan message does that count

i could go on

he also said he is willing to try ayahuasca only under some shaman's supervision in peru was it. those shamans deal with spirits and do spiritism. christ is strongly against this, yet wiggs would have no problem with it. yeah

Which one is the right one? And why?

Do know what doctrine I subscribe to?  No doctrine.  I only use the Bible and books associated i.e. Book of Enoch, Book of Jasher, Book of Jubilee and the Apocrypha.

When you read it for yourself with understanding, you're going to see my crazy doctrine isn't crazy, it's what it says. So you'll end up believing it or be totally turned off from it.

which one is the right one and why? LOL, if only u went with this

if u can't see the right one, then ur heart is not in the right place. right now ur in the wrong.

i don't subscribe to any doctrine neither. i don't even belong to church. and i don't have to read any of your books, because the last page u spewed some of the illest crap i've read and you were wrong in all parts regarding to what christians think. none of those things apply to christianity

Christians don't acknowledge Christs real name Yahshua or his ethnicity WRONG!. Christians celebrate Pagan days and say their doing it for Christ (Christmas and Easter) WRONG. Christians believe the biblical Edomites are the Hebrew Israelites (Edomites are the antagonists) SAY WHAT?!. Christians follow Holidays WRONG. Christians don't believe in following a dietary law, they eat any and everything WRONG". Christians don't observe Shabbat they go to church on Sunday and even then, they don't keep that day holy either WRONG.  They still buy and sell and still do their own pleasures on this day WRONG. Christians believe God's law is done away with even though the Bible says God doesn't change WRONG. Christians believe in a rapture that's not in the bible The term Rapture is used to refer to the faithful believers being taken up to meet Christ in the air as described in this passage written by the apostle Paul.  Christians believe when you die you immediately go to heaven or hell FUCKING WRONG. Christians believe they're going to float off into heaven WHAT???. Christians believe Christ is returning peacefully HELL NO THEY DON'T.

i just want to let u know that christianity does not teach those things. people fucking do sin regardless of religion because people are vile. and doing their own pleasure? noone is without sin, u'r doing ur own pleasure all the time. u preach like christians are the only one doing shit. u were the biggest sinner here just awhile back and u still are, get the hell on with this crap. u seem like the biggest hypcrite here. u'r definitely a whack ass preacher

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #832 on: April 04, 2016, 01:00:24 PM »
What exactly is God's endgame or goal?

I mean, if he doesn't insist on at least ending the in-fighting between humans then wtf are we to think?

why should he help? humans once decline gods future intervianance when god drowned the world. told god not to kill people anymore, sinners or no. god said "that's cool i'll leave u alone, but there will become a day when u people kill each other anyway". so that's how it is. enjoy your independance, god will definitely not kill or be involved in none of this crap, and he isn't

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #833 on: April 04, 2016, 01:17:03 PM »
Now in regards to the original question by OP, why doesn't God appear every now and again?  

The Most High doesn't move from his thrown. He has others to do his work for him. He has angelic beings, (Angels) Prophets of the Bible,  Christ and the Most High's Chosen people to get his word out, The Hebrew Israelites.

Humans would not be able to look at the Most High and live. The Most High told Moses that in Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. Even when Angels made themselves known to prophets in the past, it caused terror.  As much as I would like to stand in the presence of an angelic being, I'd be scared shitless and may even give up the ghost (die) without help. It's too much.  So the idea of being in the Most High's presence or seeing him in all is glory is not possible in human flesh without dying.

You have free will to believe what you want and do what you want but there are consequences.

33:11    And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.


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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #834 on: April 04, 2016, 01:19:47 PM »
What exactly is God's endgame or goal?

I mean, if he doesn't insist on at least ending the in-fighting between humans then wtf are we to think?

End game  or goal can be looked it in two different ways.  

The Bible says the earth is given unto the unto the hands of the wicked. Satan has a specific time period to rule this world.  This is why things are wrong and out of order for those wondering  The Most High God gave Satan dominion over the plane to rule.  We as humans have free will.  The Most High wants us to WILLFULLY serve him. Those that do by following his laws statues and Commandments will be rewarded by being part of the Kingdom aka New Jerusalem here on earth. Not floating off in the sky somewhere. He gave a specific people his laws and directions to follow to spread the word and those people if they did their part, they'd be rewarded but if they didn't they'd be cursed. He said people would be able to identify those people by the curses on them. These people today are the so called Negroes that are spread across the four corners of the earth.  

Because the Hebrews were so hard headed and riddled in sin, Christ needed to be sent by The Most High to atone for the sins of the Hebrews otherwise we'd all be sent to hell. Christ is the King of Hebrews and will reign for 1000 years on earth when he returns. During those thousand years, Satan and his fallen angels will be held in a pit.  After those thousand years, he'll let go again for a short period of time.  All of this is in the book of Revelation.  
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #835 on: April 04, 2016, 01:23:28 PM »
33:11    And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.


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Can God be seen face to face (Genesis 32:30; Exodus 33:11) or not (Exodus 33:20; John 1:18; 1 John 4:12)?

Relevant passages:
Genesis 32:30
And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”
Exodus 33:11
So the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. And he would return to the camp, but his servant Joshua the son of Nun, a young man, did not depart from the tabernacle.
Exodus 33:20
But He said, “You cannot see My face; for no man shall see Me, and live.”
John 1:18
No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
1 John 4:12
No one has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God abides in us, and His love has been perfected in us.
At first, one might think this is among the greatest of alleged contradictions, for its form mimics the Law of Non-contradiction. A contradictionist may say, “We’ve got a good one on you because A cannot equal not-A, and these verses show that God can both be seen face to face and not.” But sometimes people fail to realize the rest of the Law of Non-contradiction that states, “A cannot equal not-A at the same time and in the same relationship.”

Usually, when I see two verses allegedly in contradiction so close together in context, e.g. Exodus 33:11 and Exodus 33:20, then the context will be significant in helping us reveal there is a different time or relationship, hence not in contradiction. And this is exactly the case here. Between Exodus 33:11 and Exodus 33:20, Moses and the Lord are speaking, but a change in relationship occurs in verses 18 and 19. The greater context of this is shown:

17 So the Lord said to Moses, “I will also do this thing that you have spoken; for you have found grace in My sight, and I know you by name.”
18 And he said, “Please, show me Your glory.”
19 Then He said, “I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before you. I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.”
20 But He said, “You cannot see My face; for no man shall see Me, and live.”
At this point, the relationship has changed to signify that Moses asked to see the Lord in His glory! Not the typical face to face as revealed to sinful humans and as had already been revealed to Moses. Then, the Lord informed Moses that if any man saw Him face to face (in His glory), then they would die (see also 1 Corinthians 1:29).

The context of John 1 reveals a similar situation of God in His glory:

15 John bore witness of Him and cried out, saying, “This was He of whom I said, ‘He who comes after me is preferred before me, for He was before me.’”
16 And of His fullness we have all received, and grace for grace.
17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.
John discusses God’s fullness (hence, His glory) in verse 16 and points out that no one has seen God (in this fullness), but Christ, who declares Him (who was God in humbled flesh, according to Philippians 2:8 and the earlier context of John 1). The verse in 1 John 4:12 restates John’s previous statement and is, thus, not in contradiction, but consistent as well.

Hence, there is no contradiction, as God can speak face to face with men, but not while in all His glory; otherwise, sinful man would die.
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #836 on: April 04, 2016, 01:40:04 PM »
he also said he is willing to try ayahuasca only under some shaman's supervision in peru was it. those shamans deal with spirits and do spiritism. christ is strongly against this, yet wiggs would have no problem with it. yeah

which one is the right one and why? LOL, if only u went with this

if u can't see the right one, then ur heart is not in the right place. right now ur in the wrong.

i don't subscribe to any doctrine neither. i don't even belong to church. and i don't have to read any of your books, because the last page u spewed some of the illest crap i've read and you were wrong in all parts regarding to what christians think. none of those things apply to christianity

i just want to let u know that christianity does not teach those things. people fucking do sin regardless of religion because people are vile. and doing their own pleasure? noone is without sin, u'r doing ur own pleasure all the time. u preach like christians are the only one doing shit. u were the biggest sinner here just awhile back and u still are, get the hell on with this crap. u seem like the biggest hypcrite here. u'r definitely a whack ass preacher


You don't subscribe to a doctrine and you don't read scripture?  For the duration of your time here you've been everywhere.  How do you know if I'm right or wrong when you don't know scripture?  You just don't like what I say and you never look to verify if I'm telling the truth. LOL!  We're done kid. Keep it movin' When you want to talk scripture, lets talk.  If you want to philosophize you're on your own.
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #837 on: April 04, 2016, 01:48:36 PM »
i just want to let u know that christianity does not teach those things. people fucking do sin regardless of religion because people are vile. and doing their own pleasure? noone is without sin, u'r doing ur own pleasure all the time. u preach like christians are the only one doing shit. u were the biggest sinner here just awhile back and u still are, get the hell on with this crap. u seem like the biggest hypcrite here. u'r definitely a whack ass preacher

As long as he keeps his wackyness to himself it's all good.

Nobody wants to hear his shit about Hebrews. He was a good militaryman before but now he's gone over the deep end.

But let him be, let him be one with his Nibiru.

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #838 on: April 04, 2016, 01:54:49 PM »
You don't subscribe to a doctrine and you don't read scripture?  For the duration of your time here you've been everywhere.  How do you know if I'm right or wrong when you don't know scripture?  You just don't like what I say and you never look to verify if I'm telling the truth. LOL!  We're done kid. Keep it movin' When you want to talk scripture, lets talk.  If you want to philosophize you're on your own.

i know the scripture enough to know you're full of crap, "kid". when u copy and paste more of that cult crap u just verify more and more u'r lost. the video u posted looked to have some street dindus straight out of the crackhouse, and they r ur brothers, lol. that's ur religion, "kid"

when u said jesus isn't for everyone, that it's only for the brews i know ur full of shit. many fake christian cults have said the same thing hundreds of times claiming they have vip salvation only for those who follow their crap.

i'm not verifying u'r wrong? u don't rly want to have a debate or a conversation, i can tell when someone isn't reading my post when they reply, u don't care, u just want to post walls of text, leave the thread and say u have won. u ignore everyone completely, u'r the worst guy to have a conversation or a debate with

As long as he keeps his wackyness to himself it's all good.

Nobody wants to hear his shit about Hebrews. He was a good militaryman before but now he's gone over the deep end.

But let him be, let him be one with his Nibiru.

u'r exactly right. wiggs is talking with himself. i bet he prefers to talk with himself better.

the scriptures he reads he claims to be truth, continues to copy paste wall of text that takes 15 minutes to read completely as "proof". he accuses christians of doing sin, but he refuses to acknowledge his own, refuses to acknowledge human nature, continues to copy paste another huge wall of text as "proof". he just wants people to listen to him but he ignores everyone else, he's the kid. u'r right kwon, i'll ignore this madman :D

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #839 on: April 04, 2016, 01:55:09 PM »
As long as he keeps his wackyness to himself it's all good.

Nobody wants to hear his shit about Hebrews. He was a good militaryman before but now he's gone over the deep end.

But let him be, let him be one with his Nibiru.

Nope, you and others will hear about this.  It's spreading everywhere. You'll be forced to deal with it.  You'll have to deal with Muslims and now Hebrews. Good luck in Sweden.  :-*
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #840 on: April 04, 2016, 02:08:36 PM »
i know the scripture enough to know you're full of crap, "kid". when u copy and paste more of that cult crap u just verify more and more u'r lost. the video u posted looked to have some street dindus straight out of the crackhouse, and they r ur brothers, lol. that's ur religion, "kid"

when u said jesus isn't for everyone, that it's only for the brews i know ur full of shit. many fake christian cults have said the same thing hundreds of times claiming they have vip salvation only for those who follow their crap.

i'm not verifying u'r wrong? u don't rly want to have a debate or a conversation, i can tell when someone isn't reading my post when they reply, u don't care, u just want to post walls of text, leave the thread and say u have won. u ignore everyone completely, u'r the worst guy to have a conversation or a debate with

u'r exactly right. wiggs is talking with himself. i bet he prefers to talk with himself better.

the scriptures he reads he claims to be truth, continues to copy paste wall of text that takes 15 minutes to read completely as "proof". he talks about christians doing sin, but he refuses to acknowledge his own, refuses to acknowledge human nature, continues to copy paste another huge wall of text as "proof". he just wants people to listen to him but he ignores everyone else, he's the kid

No, you don't know. You can't answer basic questions. When you as you always do go off on other subjects, start philosophizing based on your limited intelligence, ignoring my questions and using them to ask other questions, it tells me you're not here to learn or exchange ideas you're here to try to raise hell.  It never works.  So yes, I've ignored you plenty of time because you go into your mind numbing  philosophizing mode.  I don't have time for that.

Furthermore, you don't read what I do put, and then write that I don't do things that I actually already wrote about in the same thread.  Lol. Human nature is to sin.  And sinning is going to get you sent to hell. I test someone's spirit then ignore ignoramuses and answer the legit.  Whether you listen to what I say or not is up to you. I lose no sleep at night. I have plenty of people that do listen and ask questions.  :)

Yes, please ignore me. I only wish.
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #841 on: April 04, 2016, 02:10:23 PM »
How Wiggs sees himself:


How everyone else sees Wiggs:

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #842 on: April 04, 2016, 02:13:18 PM »
How Wiggs sees himself:


How everyone else sees Wiggs:


Um, No. I see myself as these Hebrews in the second picture because that's who we are.
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #843 on: April 04, 2016, 02:17:55 PM »
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Because the Hebrews were so hard headed and riddled in sin, Christ needed to be sent by The Most High to atone for the sins of the Hebrews otherwise we'd all be sent to hell. Christ is the King of Hebrews and will reign for 1000 years on earth when he returns. During those thousand years, Satan and his fallen angels will be held in a pit.  After those thousand years, he'll let go again for a short period of time.  All of this is in the book of Revelation.  
Didn't the Quran say the same 1000 year thing?

Weird...

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #844 on: April 04, 2016, 02:18:02 PM »
How everyone else sees Wiggs:

Haha yes, that's how everyone sees Wiggster these days, just like those nignogs with clown-outfits.

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #845 on: April 04, 2016, 02:20:07 PM »
Didn't the Quran say the same 1000 year thing?

Weird...

I don't know about Quran saying that. I do know that the Roman Catholic Church created Islam though.
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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #846 on: April 04, 2016, 02:59:25 PM »
Credulity is a tendency to believe, a bias with slight or uncertain evidence, faith is belief in absence of evidence.

How could you fuck up the definitions that bad with google right there?

Faith is backed by evidence.  Just because the godless culture continually perverts the language to try to win their point doesn't make it correct. Look at the subtle adjustments made over time to edge faith out to the sidelines as mere wishful thinking.

If your business associate was heading into a negotiation and he'd won the last 10 rounds of negotiations you would that you had faith that he would prevail again. That would be based on the results or evidence he provided by way of his track record. Similarly,  God's track record of prophecies being recorded before they happen and then bring proved true after they happen both by secular and biblical evidence is the basis of a believer's faith.

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #847 on: April 04, 2016, 03:32:58 PM »
How Wiggs sees himself:


How everyone else sees Wiggs:


don't forget these guys, seems legit



holy shit is that actually wiggs in 01:33 ?

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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #848 on: April 04, 2016, 03:33:48 PM »
don't forget these guys, seems legit



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Re: So why doesnt God appear every now and again?
« Reply #849 on: April 04, 2016, 03:35:44 PM »
Faith is backed by evidence.  Just because the godless culture continually perverts the language to try to win their point doesn't make it correct. Look at the subtle adjustments made over time to edge faith out to the sidelines as mere wishful thinking.

If your business associate was heading into a negotiation and he'd won the last 10 rounds of negotiations you would that you had faith that he would prevail again. That would be based on the results or evidence he provided by way of his track record. Similarly,  God's track record of prophecies being recorded before they happen and then bring proved true after they happen both by secular and biblical evidence is the basis of a believer's faith.
Where are these predictions?