So why doesnt God appear every now and again?

[Man of Steel]

your facts are based on a book you claim was written by god through mans hands

those arent facts skippy

No what I've put forth is correct.  Atheists choose to suppress and deny at all costs so as not to be accountable.  

I used to believe there was more to atheism than that, but I was wrong.  It is that simple so I don't waste time anymore.

If an atheist is new to speaking with me I allow for much, much more in discussion.   Older atheists....I respond to y'all like you do to me....that's why the thread is 40 pages.

[bicepsofsteel]

Atheists choose to suppress and deny at all costs so as not to be accountable.  

Why do you suppress and deny Allah at all costs so as not to be accountable?

[Necrosis]

No what I've put forth is correct.  Atheists choose to suppress and deny at all costs so as not to be accountable.  

I used to believe there was more to atheism than that, but I was wrong.  It is that simple so I don't waste time anymore.

If an atheist is new to speaking with me I allow for much, much more in discussion.   Older atheists....I respond to y'all like you do to me....that's why the thread is 40 pages.

lololololol

ya not accountable to your god, thor, odin, allah, horus or any other.
How absurd is is that you think those who don't believe in something are actually in fear of it? do you fear allah? do you fear pagan gods?

[10pints]

No what I've put forth is correct.  Atheists choose to suppress and deny at all costs so as not to be accountable.  

They don't acknowledge the premise, so there is no need to suppress anything. You interpretation is one born from your dogmatic belief in religion. You are the one who demands accountability to your deity.

[Pet shop boys]

Like in the sky or on tv or anything? Like to say do this and don't do that, im happy with this, im not happy with that.

He doesn't.

Because hes not real.

Now grow up.

He left a guide so you can go thru life without him having to babyseat you ,,,,its called the BIBLE .



WooSHHHHHHH  The Lord;  never used steroids, yet he die for us all

[bigmc]

No what I've put forth is correct.  Atheists choose to suppress and deny at all costs so as not to be accountable.  

I used to believe there was more to atheism than that, but I was wrong.  It is that simple so I don't waste time anymore.

If an atheist is new to speaking with me I allow for much, much more in discussion.   Older atheists....I respond to y'all like you do to me....that's why the thread is 40 pages.

bit of a generalisation there sport

are you saying that all atheists have no morals

that just makes you sound like a holier than though pious idiot

thats just name calling because i wont buy that the bible is a book of fact

have you read that shit

the bible is a rule book to opress the masses through fear

most of us have evolved past that

some not so much

[FREAKgeek]

I used to be an atheist but I'm down with god again. Even if it's just a placebo effect, who cares if it gives you psychological comfort in a tough life who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks.

[Raymondo]

I used to be an atheist but I'm down with god again. Even if it's just a placebo effect, who cares if it gives you psychological comfort in a tough life who gives a fuck what anyone else thinks.

Oddly enough I agree with this statement. If life is tough and religion gives you solace I say go for it.

[Man of Steel]

Why do you suppress and deny Allah at all costs so as not to be accountable?

There's only one God and Allah ain't it.  Sorry, way it is.  Come aboard or jump off....your choice.

[Man of Steel]

You can't expect facts from someone with whom an ontological argument swings on a 2000 year old work of fiction. It stands that anything following this premise would be a bunch of self-referential codswallop. Which, shocker, is what you get.

Plus, he has already admitted that he is not open to reason on the issue of Christ not being the son of God. He is hardly likely to proffer reasonable responses on a subject he is immune to reason on, hence his choosing to opt out of answering / acknowledging certain questions.

Bible is non fiction.

Correct, not open to any counsel from atheists as it pertains the things and ways of God.  I'll explain to you, but you cannot explain to me.

If you become a believer that changes.

 

[Man of Steel]

They don't acknowledge the premise, so there is no need to suppress anything. You interpretation is one born from your dogmatic belief in religion. You are the one who demands accountability to your deity.

I know, I know....heard it a zillion times...."can't suppress what doesn't exist....yada, yada". 

He exists, you know it, we all know it.....your choice to suppress in order to deny accountability.

[Man of Steel]

What does that mean?

How can something non-corporeal, like a spirit, be bathed in anything?

Means he doesn't have a human, physical form.....Father and Spirit are described as spirit....an immaterial state.

Scriptures says the Father is accompanied by light and/or lighting, he's the father of lights, no one has seen him, gospel is light, Jesus is light, etc....always God and light.  

Don't know how, just is.....good question though.

[Man of Steel]

lololololol

ya not accountable to your god, thor, odin, allah, horus or any other.
How absurd is is that you think those who don't believe in something are actually in fear of it? do you fear allah? do you fear pagan gods?

Yes, yes LOLs until your sides hurt.  Meh.

There's only one God and Allah, Zeus, Horus ain't it.  Sorry, way it is.  Come aboard or jump off....your choice.

[Man of Steel]

bit of a generalisation there sport

are you saying that all atheists have no morals

that just makes you sound like a holier than though pious idiot

thats just name calling because i wont buy that the bible is a book of fact

have you read that shit

the bible is a rule book to opress the masses through fear

most of us have evolved past that

some not so much

No, I just said what I said.  Yes, I've read it.

If you've added something to it here then you said that part....such as the comment about morals.  Neither did I say that, suggest it nor do I believe it....you stated it.

Book is for truth and deliverance and salvation....only God haters seek to trade evil for good and good for evil.

You haven't evolved one inch past sin......you just tell yourself you have.  Today's world is in all it's fancy, finery and tech has legalized much of sin and deemed the majority of it inconsequential.    Just again creeping slowly towards another Sodom and Gomorrah yet this time with more man-made laws, tech and nicer stuff.

[10pints]

I know, I know....heard it a zillion times...."can't suppress what doesn't exist....yada, yada". 

He exists, you know it, we all know it.....your choice to suppress in order to deny accountability.

He exists, you know it, we all know it....yada yada.

I've heard it a million times. Your choice is to suppress in order to appease a fictitious accountability score collector.

[Man of Steel]

He exists, you know it, we all know it....yada yada.

I've heard it a million times. Your choice is to suppress in order to appease a fictitious accountability score collector.

I know you're doing the "take the words and reverse it" thing, but not sure what it accomplished.

I'm patient, you can try again if you'd like.

[Necrosis]

Yes, yes LOLs until your sides hurt.  Meh.

There's only one God and Allah, Zeus, Horus ain't it.  Sorry, way it is.  Come aboard or jump off....your choice.

I think horus is the one true god, jesus ain't it, sorry, way it is, Come aboard or jump off... your choice.

God is a ever receding pocket of ignorance.

I wish your god was real, fuck I would repent, its pretty sweet fucking deal, be good here and receive heaven for ever? sweet deal.. I wouldn't turn that shit down, unfortunately being a grown man my mind won't allow fairy tales to deride objective reality.

I don;t believe he exists, and if he does he has some people to answer to, like those put in ovens, those kids with bone cancer all his "plan".

The only way forward is through reason, the bible is a relic of a shitty past were fantasy and wants were more important then testing and facts. Look how far we have come by ignoring religion, working on the sabbath, materials of two types together, questioning authority etc.

[Man of Steel]

I think horus is the one true god, jesus ain't it, sorry, way it is, Come aboard or jump off... your choice.

God is a ever receding pocket of ignorance.

I wish your god was real, fuck I would repent, its pretty sweet fucking deal, be good here and receive heaven for ever? sweet deal.. I wouldn't turn that shit down, unfortunately being a grown man my mind won't allow fairy tales to deride objective reality.

I don;t believe he exists, and if he does he has some people to answer to, like those put in ovens, those kids with bone cancer all his "plan".

The only way forward is through reason, the bible is a relic of a shitty past were fantasy and wants were more important then testing and facts. Look how far we have come by ignoring religion, working on the sabbath, materials of two types together, questioning authority etc.

No, there is only one God expressed in Father, Son and Spirit.

There is no Horus.

God is truth and revealed through Jesus Christ....repent to today and belief in Jesus Christ and be saved.

Not a fairy tale....just an excuse for God haters...can't help you.

You know he exists, we all know he exists....you suppress to avoid accountability in order to continue in sin.

The bible is truth and through it deliverance and salvation

Yes, you've come such a long way.  Sin is rampant, increasing and legalized.  The era of tolerance is completely intolerant.  Slowly but surely the world is inching it's way to the fullness of it's sin.  Religion is slowly being defined as mental illness....a disease and eventually will be outlawed on a global scale.   It will feel marvelous and victorious for some and then the Son will return and you'll get to partake in the eternity of your selection and might even recall the words of some believers that loved y'all enough to diligently challenge you and tell you to turn to God now....but then it will be too late.   Don't want that for you....or anyone.

Out of my hands though....choices have been made. 

[SF1900]

^ Complete and utter nonsense.

Fear mongering at its best.

[Necrosis]

No, there is only one God expressed in Father, Son and Spirit.

There is no Horus.

God is truth and revealed through Jesus Christ....repent to today and belief in Jesus Christ and be saved.

Not a fairy tale....just an excuse for God haters...can't help you.

You know he exists, we all know he exists....you suppress to avoid accountability in order to continue in sin.

The bible is truth and through it deliverance and salvation

Yes, you've come such a long way.  Sin is rampant, increasing and legalized.  The era of tolerance is completely intolerant.  Slowly but surely the world is inching it's way to the fullness of it's sin.  Religion is slowly being defined as mental illness....a disease and eventually will be outlawed on a global scale.   It will feel marvelous and victorious for some and then the Son will return and you'll get to partake in the eternity of your selection and might even recall the words of some believers that loved y'all enough to diligently challenge you and tell you to turn to God now....but then it will be too late.   Don't want that for you....or anyone.

Out of my hands though....choices have been made. 

But what if I consider some of the things god has done as sinful? when will he repent? and to whom? he owes his creations an explanation just as my son would (I have no kids) if I was whipping him. This idea of complete fault on the humans part with none being placed on god seems absurd, he is not accountable?

Why would he care what happens in this finite time if he lives in eternity? all is pointless in eternity, nothing means anything, it's endless, immutable and stagnant. Seems like a cruel exercise.

[bigmc]

No, I just said what I said.  Yes, I've read it.

If you've added something to it here then you said that part....such as the comment about morals.  Neither did I say that, suggest it nor do I believe it....you stated it.

Book is for truth and deliverance and salvation....only God haters seek to trade evil for good and good for evil.

You haven't evolved one inch past sin......you just tell yourself you have.  Today's world is in all it's fancy, finery and tech has legalized much of sin and deemed the majority of it inconsequential.    Just again creeping slowly towards another Sodom and Gomorrah yet this time with more man-made laws, tech and nicer stuff.

i havent evolved one inch past sin 

you havent evolved one inch past a book written by supersticious idiots hundreds of years ago

you are evolving in to the biggest prick on here im afraid

you use to be a well balanced funny guy

now you preach an idiocy based on nothing more than the fear of your own mortality

judge ye not the deeds of others

isnt gluttony a sin you fat cu nt 

[Donny]

I really feel that some should look into Shinto.

[Man of Steel]

But what if I consider some of the things god has done as sinful? when will he repent? and to whom? he owes his creations an explanation just as my son would (I have no kids) if I was whipping him. This idea of complete fault on the humans part with none being placed on god seems absurd, he is not accountable?

Why would he care what happens in this finite time if he lives in eternity? all is pointless in eternity, nothing means anything, it's endless, immutable and stagnant. Seems like a cruel exercise.

God has never sinned.

You're a creation of a righteous creator.  You can be sinful, he cannot.

He is eternal and his law is eternal and his justice is eternal.

Spit on me and nothing may happen.  Spit on a police officer and you'll spend some time in jail.  Spit on the President and you may spend decades in jail.  Spit on an eternal God and you'll face an eternal fine. 

[SF1900]

i havent evolved one inch past sin 

you havent evolved one inch past a book written by supersticious idiots hundreds of years ago

you are evolving in to the biggest prick on here im afraid

you use to be a well balanced funny guy

now you preach an idiocy based on nothing more than the fear of your own mortality

judge ye not the deeds of others

isnt gluttony a sin you fat cu nt 

You can see all the fear mongering in his posts. Threats of eternal damnation and fire. How can you even logically debate such lunacy? You can't. 

[Man of Steel]

i havent evolved one inch past sin  

you havent evolved one inch past a book written by supersticious idiots hundreds of years ago

you are evolving in to the biggest prick on here im afraid

you use to be a well balanced funny guy

now you preach an idiocy based on nothing more than the fear of your own mortality

judge ye not the deeds of others

isnt gluttony a sin you fat cu nt  

No you haven't....sin is sin...doesn't change.

The bible still stands today.

I'm one of the most loving folks here because I actually care for your soul and take time to share with others the goodness and grace of God.  You don't like it when I speak about sin because it's convicting.  I don't feel conviction because I don't walk in willful sin.  When I did sin regularly I felt conviction when I was called out.

I'm still a very funny guy, but I speak directly to atheists now and I'm primarily all business about matters of faith.  I speak exactly like I've always been spoken to...it's effective.   Same message, different delivery....today I do direct and in the past I did sunshine and rainbows.....most board atheists are waaaaaaay past that Cinderalla approach.

I have no fear of death.

Matthew 7:1.  Already addressed that with you....continue on through 7:6 for the full context.  Believers are to judge righteously, but not hypocritically.  From me you get scripture, the gospel and the righteous words of God.   You aren't getting the gospel according to MOS.

All sort are gluttons.  I don't happen to be....I don't eat tremendous amounts of food anymore or engage in greed.  I was in 20 times better shape in the past and ate 3 and 4 times the volume I eat today....that was gluttonous behavior.  There are rail thin folks that are gluttons as well.  Bodybuilders eat like gluttons.   Others are gluttons out of greed and envy and mass accumulation of wealth and possession....gross materialism....I don't engage in that either.